hey mu
how does one get into classical music? of course I know the great, but how to really dig in to this stuff with no formal education?
are there any orchetsras with good recoridngs out there?
>>61100254
I'm on the same boat. I want to get into classical music but I'm having a hard time finding downloads that aren't too large in size for what I want to start with.
first get familiar with the different epochs, choose the one you like best and start with their most influential composers
>>61100254
I don't know if Penguin still makes/revises their guide to classical recordings, but the one they put out in the late 90s is still an excellent place to start. Using that as a best-recordings guide, I'd start with baroque instrumentals: The organ concertos of Handel, Bach's orchestral suites and Brandenburg concertos, and the keyboard sonatas of Domenico Scarlatti. The tuneful exuberance of those may just carry you away, but that is the idea.
Listen to Mozart.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
https://mega.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
http://crudblud.sjm.so/
To start, the best orchestra is Berlin Philharmonic. Not that they have the best recording of every single work, but if you get a Berlin Phil recording you'll get a pretty good version. Once you get more into classical, you'll be able to pick out the sounds and styles different orchestras and the different conductors bring, and find one you prefer, but for an absolute beginner the Berlin Phil is a good place to start.
Mostly the Berlin Phil recorded on Deutsche Gramophone. DG are a great label, anything on DG will be a good recording (again, maybe not the best, maybe not your favourite, but it will be good.) Look for the distinctive yellow label.
>>61100254
WHO IS THIS SEMEN DEMON
>>61101475
hahahahahahaha semen demon
>>61102170
shut the fuck up
>>61102846
hahahahahahaha shut the fuck up
Anything but baroque music. You need to listen to emotive music
Chopin
you can try Scaruffi's list http://www.scaruffi.com/music/essentia.html.
I've heard ~4 and they're all good
>>61104018
baroque is the GOAT period though
>>61101060
lmao
>>61100254
Typically the popular artists are the best places to start, unlike modern music we've had time to discern the better artists of the time period.
Mozart
Beethoven
Bach
Schubert
Schumann
Mendelssohn
Romantic music outside of a few artists is awful and you shouldn't waste your time.
>>61104018
you dropped this
>>61104121
Don't use this.
>>61106278
need recs then
I've heard bach, beethoven, mozart, and haydn. I could use more late 18th century and more early 19th century.
>>61100254
Listen to some of it, look up "music similar to [artist you like]", "artists that inspiried [artist you like]" or look for artists in the same style.
Well, I think composers like Liszt, Chopin, Debussy or Rachmaninoff are pretty good to start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkBA4vHfkZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8NrfLYcRvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuVt4cyc42Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smH8-3e38ZI
Just search, search and listen a lot
>>61106317
Schubert
Mendelssohn
Schumann
Weber
Boccherini
Cherubini
Lots of stuff to download there:
mega:///#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>>61105864
That's a shit post. If you don't have any alternatives to suggest or even reasons for criticizing the Berlin Philharmonic, I'll just dismiss your opinion and follow >>61101060's advice anyway.
>>61101475
>all women are sex objects
nice meme /pol/
>>61106164
>we've had time to discern the better artists of the time period.
>Schumann
>>61106516
what the fuck are you talking about
>>61106164
>Romantic music outside of a few artists is awful and you shouldn't waste your time.
Why? The Romantic era is great.
>>61106466
this meme is the most confusing thing to someone who doesnt know anything about classical music or the differences between composers.
What a qt ;w;
>>61107831
it's a trap lol
>>61106377
>Rachmaninoff
>Not posting his best piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQw3DvqEbxI
I never liked classical until I started listening to piano sonatas rather than orchestral works. Just the most basic famous stuff like Suite Bergamasque and Moonlight Sonata performed by Claudio Arrau, or really anything performed by Arrau, like Chopin's Nocturnes.
>>61104018
>Baroque can't be emotional
So wrong its funny.
Behold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGQq3HcOB0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDdPvMayCY
something to remember as you listen is that the different periods of time reflect the technologies of their times, and that can alter how you listen tot eh music. Early music is often more about appreciating harmony, and once the keyboard begins to dominate compositionally, you are supposed to enjoy the drifitng transpositions, then the interplay of chamber music, and with arrival of loud instruments, dynamics become more important and it's possible to have great depth and create a scene. Great geniuses worked in all periods and knew what they were doing, you have to figure out what interested them and attempt to follow their focus, then you'll discover yourself getting the most out of your listening.
>>61104018
>Anything but baroque music. You need to listen to emotive music
There's nothing inherently emotive about any music, it's just how expressively it's played.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lRdb5BSGA
>>61108009
switch piano sonatas with string quartets and that's basically my story. like you, I only got into classical when I discovered a more compact form (not gigantic orchestral works or opera). I listen to them almost exclusively.
all the recordings by the Juilliard String Quartet between Cohen's arrival and Adam's departure are pure gold for me. I've gotten into Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Debussy, Ravel, and Bartok through them. but it was the Debussy recording that made me fall in love again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-_U5S_3t0E
>>61102846
First of all, I'm 19 and nearly about to turn 20. Not exactly, a "teenager", bucko.
Second of all, this album is purely, utter, nonsense, it takes no talent to create a pile of garbage and just because it's arranged to sound like a shitty Disney movie knockoff with a kooky album artwork doesn't make it valid or interesting. Hence why it hasn't been given any good subsequent reviews years later, it's just "quirky" and "le random XD" to be "cool" for hipsters online.
Find some actual artistic and real music. Miles Davis. Roy Ayers. Erykah Badu.
Fuck off, cunt. Gain some music knowledge.
>>61107936
even better tbqh
>>61109685
Why do you post random pasta?
>>61108009
>>61109610
Any recs on Sonatas and Quartets? I mean, stuff you like, that would take me too long to find by myself. pls.
>>61100254
partida 2 by bach, somehow written in baroque but sounds modern as hell. Most def what got me deep into classical. Specifically Giga and Ciaccona.
>>61109744
first, check the Debussy one. that was the first one I discovered and I fell so hard for it I listened to it literally dozens of times.
here's the one I really love by Haydn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJNKovGHYi8
and Schubert's "Death and the Maiden"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heLp0nbxZKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq4VTlvpw6k
these were all recorded by the Juilliard String Quartet. they're practically heroes to me at this point, how many great works these four have made real for me.
here's Beethoven's 131 as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXm1W6t-qqk
>>61109744
>Sonatas
Beethoven
Schubert
Scriabin
Scarlatti
Prokofiev
Liszt's B minor one (Cortot or Horowitz '32 are GOAT)
For performers there are tons of good ones but go with stuff by Richter, Moravec, Schnabel, Sofronitsky, Yudina, and Annie Fischer.
Always go with historic meme recordings.
>>61110023
Good choices. Here's a couple of my favourite string pieces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjZylz3nCwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfeVaK0yeM
>>61110023
>>61110125
ty based anons.
>>61109744
Have a list of meme quartets, if you want help with performances.
>>61110212
thanks for the recs :)
I've just begun listening to the "Dissonance" quartet, and haven't fully absorbed it yet
the octet is new to me - not just the piece but that such a formation even existed in classical. definitely worth exploring.
>>61110237
the Budapest and (even more) the Busch are ones that I keep encountering nonstop praise for. makes me suspect that they are well worth checking out. the Hungarian too.
>>61109555
>There's nothing inherently emotive about any music, it's just how expressively it's played.
What are you basing this on? Asking out of curiosity.
>>61100254
The important thing is not to get distracted.
I would definitely start with bach, maybe even the renaissance chant composers like palestrina, especially if they were composing after the council of trent (I say this because the council put restrictions on the composition of sacred music to ensure that composers stuck to theological implications rather than extra-musical masturbation, which makes it perfect for learning the musical form of that era).
And then go to Mozart.
After Mozart you can just explore the classical era, personally I grew extremely attached to pergolesi and his stabat mater.
The romantic era is more un-guided, so many composers were writing for personal and/or non-religious programatic reasons, which I don't particularly like.
I am very fond of Bruckner however.
Some people will say to you "BERLIOZ IS THE BEST" and others will say "SCHNITTKE MASTER REAC," but remember that this is the hivemind.
You should look neither for emotional gluttony nor for intellectual fecundity, real musical worth is a transcendence.
Here is my squad:
Stravinsky.
Part.
Messaien.
Bruckner.
Gorecki.
>>61109610
I was like that except form Piano pieces to Wind Featured pieces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFb6thrtyc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrVZV7nNrqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y-3HelXglY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYbX1e7NcDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPrPV67JAVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSfkGpcBtLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1p9eGyuaJM
Same quartet you posted but Saxophoned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD3MLlj55dw
Canon in D is the only song you need to know :)
>>61110237
They should have this for every kind of instrumentalist.
Like a Keyboardist and then they go into certain composers/styles like Michelangeli/Bavouzet/Gieseking for Debuss and etc.
>>61112054
A less live version of the NY counterpoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMfnUFpT09w
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