>pop punk
Can /mu/ possibly name a genre that is overall as objectively terrible as pop punk?
LOL XDD anthony fantango.. xD
i got that exact shirt, antonio : )
>implying underground pop-punk isn't cutesy feel-good perfection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8pR6BLN7WY
pop and rock anything
hey dudes are you ready to
post avant jazzcore
>>61072011
>progressive dreamfunk
I don't understand why you people listen to tacky as fuck but then complain that pop punk is terrible.
>>61071967
Reggaeton
>>61071967
nu metal
deathcore
crunkcore
trap
dubstep
most edm in general
did you even try OP
>>61071967
Crunkcore
Whatever this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C34T-fx2pzw
>>61072144
*tips le hat*
>>61071967
Pop EDM.
anything with the word "rock" in it
>>61072144
nice fedora
>>61071967
Euro-Trance
also pop punk is pretty fucking good, ngl.
>>61071967
rap
whatever genre that shit death grips do is
>>61072152
>>61072261
what in that post implies im a fedora type
>>61072312
hip hop confirmed for shite :^)
>>61071967
post punk
>>61071980
i actually feel physically ill from watching that
>>61072269
>>61071980
Genuinely curious, any pop punk actually worth listening to. Obviously the OP remark was intentionally obtuse.
>>61072144
None of those bar Crunkstep are actually as bad as pop-punk.
I'm going to ignore dubstep as I'm fairly sure by the rest of your list you've misunderstood what it is - listen to some Burial.
EDM is not inherently bad - again, I'm fairly sure you're just talking about trash like Skrillex and Steve Aoki.
Nu-metal: Deftones, Slipknot (very early stuff), Machine Head, System of a Down (perhaps if you want to lump them in) are all decent, or at least not as bad as pop-punk. Granted though, the movement on the whole with stuff like Papa Roach and Limp Bizkit is not music's finest moment.
Difficult to know what you mean by Trap. I enjoy trap-influenced hip-hop quite a lot to be honest, Asap Ferg, Travis Scott etc
Post grunge
Most of what people here listen to.
>>61072362
Some of my favourite pop punk albums:
Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
The Wonder Years - The Greatest Generation
Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This To Memory
Lifetime - Jersey's Best Dancers
Tigers Jaw - Tigers Jaw
The Hotelier - Home, Like Noplace Is There
>>61072313
You said currently popular genres like trap, Dubstep, and general EDM are not good genres, and the best argument people can give as to why you're wrong is to call you fedora. Ironically enough, the same argument could've been made to silence crunkcore detractors when that shit was popular, even though it's really easy to look back at crunkcore and accept that it's truly shitty)
>>61072362
>I'm going to ignore dubstep as I'm fairly sure by the rest of your list you've misunderstood what it is - listen to some Burial.
an exception or two doesnt change the fact that its extremely tacky and generic as a genre though.
>EDM is not inherently bad - again, I'm fairly sure you're just talking about trash like Skrillex and Steve Aoki.
i was referring to mainly the edm that gets played on the radio, or the simple/forgettable stuff that makes up the majority of it.
>Nu-metal: Deftones, Slipknot (very early stuff), Machine Head, System of a Down (perhaps if you want to lump them in) are all decent, or at least not as bad as pop-punk. Granted though, the movement on the whole with stuff like Papa Roach and Limp Bizkit is not music's finest moment.
i semi agree with this.
>Difficult to know what you mean by Trap. I enjoy trap-influenced hip-hop quite a lot to be honest, Asap Ferg, Travis Scott etc
trap influenced hip hop is not what i meant. im talking about the very basic shit that sounds like a 15 year old just learned how to use fl studio.
>>61072446
The only band in that list which if I saw independently of this thread I would categorise as pop-punk is The Wonder years (cannot stand them).
I actually enjoy Tigers Jaw, the more recent stuff in particular though.
The Hotelier are ok as well.
Pop-punk to me is stuff like:
Wonder Years, Blink 182, Bowling for Soup, Neck Deep, Man Overboard, New Found Glory, Real Friends
>>61072511
That Neck Deep album was my AOTY, no joke. It's so goddamn fun.
Idk, you kind of have to be in the right frame of mind to listen to pop punk. If you spend all day listening to Death Grips, I can see how pop punk would drive you up the wall. But it's fun, harmless and relatively innocent which is what I love about it.
>>61072484
I'm saying what you're defining as dubstep is not dubstep. Your conception of the genre is inaccurate.
>i was referring to mainly the edm that gets played on the radio, or the simple/forgettable stuff that makes up the majority of it.
Surely cherry-picking is the opposite of the point of this, which is to facetiously define entire genres of bad, of course.
Celtic Punk
>>61072362
We Are The Only Friends We Have and All Ears, All Eyes, All The Time by Piebald
american made Ska
>>61071980
>cutesy
>feel-good
>desirable aspects of any art form
>>61072568
>I'm saying what you're defining as dubstep is not dubstep. Your conception of the genre is inaccurate.
ok, i see what you mean now
>Surely cherry-picking is the opposite of the point of this, which is to facetiously define entire genres of bad, of course.
is that not what OP did though? a better question would have been 'is there a genre overall worse than pop punk', which would mean any responses dont particularly mean the genres are bad, just worse than pop punk.
>>61072721
>what is anime
>>61071967
Ska.
Are you even trying?
>>61072741
Oh wow so pop punk is the music equivalent of anime. Great defense for its artistic merit there.
power metal
twee pop
>>61072784
>twee pop
I don't even count that as music. More of a product made to make 13-year-old insecure about their bodies/friends/though processes so they will buy things with their parent's money.
>>61072784
>not recognizing power metal as the most fun genre of music
>>61071967
nu-metal ez
>>61072257
is rockclimbing a shit hobby?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVELaCbxiVM
>>61072838
Deftones is the only exception I can think of.
>>61072784
>>61072802
>twee pop
>bad
fuggin plebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JL0370kADM
>>61071967
How has no one said folk punk yet?
>>61073069
Folk, ska and pop punk are like my holy trio of faggotry
Folk punk seems more self aware of how bad it is than other genres. That counts for something. I'm not sure what, exactly, but it's something.
>>61073069
I can think of one reason.
>>61073098
I'm not going to lie, I really enjoy skanking to Streetlight Manifesto
>>61073109
meant for
>>61073069
>>61073114
That may be the only reason
>>61072362
Buzzcocks, the Undertones?
desu I genuinely like MCR and Fallout Boy though.
>>61073133
Its a great album though, too bad their other ones suck.
>>61073141
Buzzcocks and undertones are first wave punk, pop punk useally refers to much more contemporary acts, although you could very much say that buzzcocks and undertones have a very power pop sound
>>61073048
7/10
though it's not pure twee pop, more like that girl groups from the early 80s
better that i thought
still
>thinking twee pop is good
>calling other people plebs
>>61071967
sure.
Deathcore
Pop Country
Crunkcore
memes
>>61071967
tonefield
Tonefield as a sub-genre started with people trying to guess what colorfield painting genre would be if it was a music genre.
Those same guys decided to list the colorfield painting characteristics and use, logic, painting skills, and music theory skills to convert those characteristics to music ones.
In the end the sub-genre works is basically like this:
1- The song start with a silent part with 1 second (or more) or with a tone a tone with 1 second or more (tone must have same waveform, frequency and amplitide during its entire lenght)
2-Song ends or continue with with a new silent part with 1 second (or more) or with new a tone a tone with 1 second or more (tone must have same waveform, frequency and amplitide during its entire lenght)
3-Go back to 2.
Indie Anything
>>61074006
Sounds like an offshoot of ambient?
Interesting premise, shame it isn't executed well.
Can you link any?
Emo
Crunk
BM lol bm lmao
Emo Pop is worse.
>>61071979
me too bro.
Asos don't tell anyone teehee
>>61074632
/fa/ here.
>ASOS
Noise
>>61071967
Crunkcore
Almost every genre named here started out innovative and influential.
The problem is rewarming leftovers.
Can you imagine being alive in 1978 and hearing the Buzzcocks when the freshest options for young people to listen to were disco and dadrock?
>>61074487
>Interesting premise, shame it isn't executed well.
what do you mean, they did the colorfield painting characteirstics convertions wrong?
>Can you link any?
https://wavelength2.bandcamp.com/
Chillwave
>>61072390
came here to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hE8yzZOtGc
i like this
>>61072257
wew lad
>>61071967
Blackgaze
Doom Metal
Dream Pop
Noise
Harsh Noise
>tfw I'm in a pop punk band and everybody hates pop punk
>>61076078
Pop Punk is extremely popular, though.
EURODANCE FOR FUCKS SAKE.
NAME ONE GOOD ALBUM OR ARTIST.
>>61076090
Not where I live. Granted, I've never gotten outright animosity from any crowd, but it seems like no one really gets into it that much
>>61073154
>Hallowed Ground
>sucking
fuck outta here you plebshit
>>61071967
easy: Ska
>>61071967
Metal
Hip hop
Pop
Does any pop-punk exist that could be classed as patrician even
And everyone saying ska is probably thinking of modern ska and not the multiple generations that came before it
>>61072741
You just murdered your defense with that.
>>61072390
>buttrock
fixed
>>61076159
>Classifying music as patrician
>music
>>61075599
Wow you might be right, this is fucking dreadful.
>>61076159
>And everyone saying ska is probably thinking of modern ska and not the multiple generations that came before it
all Ska is a shit
>>61071967
You have pop punk confused with pizzacore, faggot. Pop punk is good in that it is the only genre of music that can give lighthearted and sarcastic outlooks on otherwise serious subject matter without being labeled as comedy rock.
>>61076661
Look at this wrong opinion
People that hate 1st and 2nd wave ska are subhuman husk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd2QaToReGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7cWq0G-ADQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54gABWgrX1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6dEfAedJpg
Some of my favorite albums of all time right here. All genres have at least one good song, if not an album.
>>61076739
nice dreads bro
>>61072362
Aside from neighbourhoods, Blink 182 is actually consistently good.
Their self-titled is the closest thing we'll even get to a pop-punk masterpiece
>>61072721
>I want to be sad and miserable all the time
>nofunallowed.jpg
>>61077296
b-but i like neighborhoods..
im a faggot fanboi tho. i like all of their releases. im excited for the new album with matt skiba.
Anything Fantadingomandingo likes.
>>61071967
>ctrl+f electroswing
>no results
cum on step it up :^)
>>61077358
Neighbourhoods just didn't feel like Blink 182
>>61071967
>he doesn't ironically listen to mid-2000s pop punk
>>61077317
fun != enjoyable
just as sadness != enjoyable
for me, if i wanted "fun" music, i'd listen to trap rap
>>61077455
some band's sound progress over time. dude ranch is different from self titled, but both are great. i like neighborhoods i just wish mark sang more in it.
>>61077474
and if I want fun music I listen to Andrew WK or "good times" pop-punk
Different strokes for different folks, my friend
>>61077523
Self titled, while much more emotional and less "fun" was genuinely well written and still had a Blink 182 vibe to it.
It's their best album by far. Probably one of the only instances where pop-punk tried for feels and it didn't come out cringey
>>61077561
take your pants off and jacket is underrated tho.
how the fuck has nobody said reggae
that shit's offensively bad
>>61072261
filtered
>>61072144
Deathcore is great m8
>almost every genre has been posted
This is the point where I realize that sharethreads are the only good threads on /mu/.
>>61077466
>he ironically does things
pop punk fans, everyone
>>61077690
After 1985, yeah. It's a historically significant genre though in terms of the influence it had on most UK music in the 80's.
>what is dub, roots, rockers, ska?
>>61072784
>twee pop
try saying that twee pop is shit in an alleyway with these dangerous dudes around you and see what happens fucker, i triple dog dare you.
How about mid-2000's emo where everyone is emulating that insufferable whining socal accent (why do people still do this?)? That shit is the redheaded step-child of pop-punk.
>>61078873
He's not a fan of something if he does it ironically.
>>61076159
uhh, descendants? maybe joyce manor's first album? pop punk was not shit in the 80's when it was closer to its hardcore roots, and is just getting not shitty again in the 10's with its fusion into the emo revival, but pretty much all of it made in the 90's and 00's is poo poo.
>>61078931
there's about to be a "beat" happening, if you can see what i'm saying :^)
>>61078906
reminder black people have created all pop music.
>>61078986
Yes he is its just something people say when they want to do things but they think they're too Intelligent for it
haven't you ever noticed how people who do things ironically always say "I do so many things ironically I can't stop. now I really like it xD"
The Adicts, Misfits, Against Me, and Jeff Rosenstock are all really good. Celtic punk is the real cancer.
screamo if were being serious
>>61079489
Get out
Name three screamo bands?
>>61079463
Misfits weren't pop punk until the Graves era, and that's kinda controversial.
Celtic punk is fucking brilliant though.
>He hasn't listened to the magnum opus of pop-punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnFVMkTWaBw
>>61079603
Listen to just about any track off of Static Age or Walk Among Us. They're really melodic punk songs backed up with genuine singing. They're pop punk by definition.
>>61078906
it's shit
......................grime...............
>>61079895
cool argument
>>61079489
>implying screamo is a genre and not an ignorant umbrella term
>>61079895
post-punk draws as much from dub as it does krautrock
>K-Pop
>>61080406
I think it does describe a certain niche
>>61078955
This but with screaming in the same whiny artificial accent
grime
Pop punk is the worst I agree. The only ones up there with it are ska and dubstep
>>61080479
oi rudeboi shutup
>>61071980
Gnarwolves are fantastic, nice post
>>61071980
God fucking damn the lyrics are so cringeworthy
I'M NOT THE SAME GUY YOU KISSED
I'M A MISERABLE SHIT
Just fuck me up senpai
>>61071967
Pop punk bands that are better than most of the shit that's popular here (you children try waaaay too hard to impress people):
Chumped
The Menzingers
The Copyrights
The Creeps
Masked Intruder
Off With Their Heads
Red City Radio
Direct Hit!
Against Me!
The Wonder Years
Green Day (yeah, fuck you)
Dan Vapid and the Cheats
Lipstick Homicide
Jeff Rosenstock
Honestly the list goes on and on, if you like catchy music, there's no shortage of it.
All you people are just insecure and think people actually care about your circle jerking over Joanna Newsom or St. Vincent or Swans. Fucking losers with your boring pretentious crap.
Folk Punk is hit or miss. Pat The Bunny and the Andrew Jackson Jihad are great.
>>61072362
"Slipknot - very early stuff" you're just saying that because of scaruffi. I'd be far more embarrassed owning a fucking slipknot shirt than a Green Day one you cocksucking drone holy shit, all you people are like one grey mass of bullshit
>>61072390
Our Lady Peace are ok.
>>61072550
Death Grips are for fucking try hard pasty teens that shit post on message boards with their Lol memes :D :D fuuuuck this place sucks
>>61073098
You have shit taste :^)
I know a girl who only listens to Christian dubstep.
>>61074728
Yeah it's not even music lol pop punk is far more enjoyable. I can just picture some pasty virgin teen hipsters bashing pop punk then turning on his broken vacuum to listen to while it sucks his testicles
>>61076090
Not the GOOD pop punk though. The majority of the mainstream shit sucks ass like Knuckle Puck and Blink 182
>>61079004
Descendants and Joyce Manor have atrocious lyrics even by pop punk standards, especially Joyce Manor. Both are shit and aren't even catchy
>>61081062
You mean Death Grips?
>>61071967
>fagtano reaction face
>>61080864
>Andrew Jackson Jihad are great.
>>61072362
I consider this pop punk and it's pretty good. Really tight instrumentation and great melodies.
https://dirtnaprecords.bandcamp.com/album/marked-men-fix-my-brain
>>61080864
Andrew Jackson Jihad is the worst kind of music. Meaningless dross for teenagers that want to feel they're deep.
>>61071967
>pop punk is bad
NIGHTCORE
>>61080945
I don't even have the first idea what 'scaruffi' is, will google it now though.
I say their early stuff (desu probably just up til subliminal verses) because their new stuff is awful.
