ITT: industry puppets who act like they're totally independent and DIY
pic related is the obvious choice, st vincent too
>>61052519
>B-but my totally original waifu
Grimes is about as diy and "unconventional" as hot topic
>>61052555
well her cunt ain't fry
it's dripping with mayo
>>61052623
Real talk, if you like mayo you probably suffer from a mental disorder
>>61052519
Wrong examples. Both Grimes & St. Vincent are independent artists. If you disagree with this, you're a moron.
>>61052838
prove it, fucker.
>>61052825
>dismissing all mayo
you just haven't met the right mayo yet anon
>>61052519
Who's uglier: Grimes or Bilinda Butcher?
big nose, pasty skin, bad teeth
>>61052901
The only tolerable one is the chipotle one they have in sushis and shit
But that aint really mayo, cmon now
>>61052848
YOU made the allegations that they aren't independent artists, so you must prove that, motherfucker.
>>61052848
You're the one who made the claim first faggot
>>61052519
Her fame has definitely been bolstered by the "fake indie" labels/mags but most of her biggest songs are entirely her, and she spent several years completely indie, bad example
>>61052942
go to an asian foods store and try some japanese mayo man, that shit's god-tier
it generally comes in a flimsy bottle that lets you squeeze the mayo out of a nozzle
Grimes - Art Angels personnel:
>Claire Boucher – vocals, production, artwork
>Janelle Monáe – additional vocals (on "Venus Fly")
>Pan Wei-Ju – additional vocals (on "SCREAM")
>>61052519
>Grimes
>not independent
What did you smoke, idiot?
>>61052519
I think some dudes probably helped her with production, she seems to stupid to learn all that herself plus her artwork sucks.
>>61053006
>she seems to stupid
>seems
There's a big difference between what it seems and it's real.
>>61053006
Art Angels is more hi-fi so she definitely had some professional engineers/producers on it but Visions was made completely by her in an apartment and sounds pretty ok
For those that question Grimes' skills as a producer, check this out.
1/5
>>61053058
Yes, but I look at the poor quality of her artwork and then I can't help wonder why her production is of such high quality. So I therefore think that she has had some "help" making those songs.
>>61053145
Because her drawing skill are related to her production skills. Yes.
Also, her artwork is pretty great with the exception of the Art Angels cover. I mean that's fucking awful jesus lord.
>>61053145
>Yes, but I look at the poor quality of her artwork and then I can't help wonder why her production is of such high quality.
Your logic is frankly ridiculous. What have to to the artwork with the production? Those are 2 different skills. You can draw like shit and make top notch productions.
And FYI, the artwork isn't poor. The actual drawing is very nice, the subject isn't too good.
>>61053205
5/5
So, before making any assumptions about Grimes' productions, read this article.
>>61053111
>OP being mad
>>61052555
this is what everyone thinks when an artist has finally made it with songs on the radio and a major label. yall niggas werent there when she was struggling broke as fuck touring for free and shit.
>>61053189
I think that what he's trying to say is that nobody with a bit of intelligence would think that that drawing would make a good album cover.
(I don't think he's right though).
>>61053265
That's right. These fuckers were in primary school when Grimes strugged as a musician. They know shit about the life of a musician.
>>61053189
It's not ridiculous at all. The shitty shape of the head on art angels shows all she can do is symbol drawing, and hasn't bothered to learn the fundamentals of drawing.So why is it different for her production, which expresses a clear knowledge of production technique, music theory etc?
>>61053006
m8 come on just b/c you can't produce shit. basic-tier sexism right here
>>61053306
Like, i think he's right about the drawing being a wrong choice, but i don't think this has anything to do with her production skills.
>>61052838
>>61053058
she looks like a retarded hipster cunt
>>61053486
Assuming someone isn't talented bc of their gender/image is genuinely sexist. That's like first/second wave basic feminism not SJW stuff
>>61053405
>>61053405
So'k man. I think i've already put the idea in your head anyway.
>>61052825
Objectively true
>>61053540
>implying she's talented
why you people keep pushing up this crap music like a genuine piece of art instead of what really is
>>61053234
Pretty mundane, desu
>>61052825
miracle whip jerkasses need to be rounded up and sent to labor camps
>>61052519
>independent record label (pic related)
>self produced
but the music sounds agreeable and accessible so i guess it's just an industry gimmick to make people more stupid than OP empty their pockets buying meme sound, right?
i don't even like grimes that much but it makes me mad see how people attack perfectly legitimate, fairly original and refreshing pop music in a time when the mainstream is dominated by flakey half baked popstars who can't bring themselves to put out a decent record a year, all for the sake of elitism.
>>61054493
pic
>>61054493
those people criticizing grimes don't even like pop in the first place.
>>61053146
>Ronda Rousey shirt
as bad as a Star wars shirt
>these mad men
>>61054781
what's wrong with a star wars shirt? seriously.
>>61054509
Yeah. 4AD has been indie since 80s, good lord they were indie when it was hard to be indie!
>>61052838
>>61052838
Grimeth is on 4AD which is distributed by Virgin, and Annie's on Republic, which is a division of Universal. Not even close to DIY independent.
>>61052825
This is now a mayo thread
Post your fav genre of mayo
>>61055302
I'm Dutch.
I know my mayo.
The only recently started selling Hellman's on a large scale over here and I like it alot.
she looks like a fucking neanderthal. eyebrows of a grizzly bear, gigantic ears, and it looks like her parents tried to suppress the growth of her nose as a child by placing a bowling ball on her face every evening when she slept. 0/10 would rather fuck a battle droid.
I think I prefer the original version of Realiti. But the new one does suit the overall sound of the album better
Honestly the fact that she redid it in the new style so effortlessly proves how superficial the change between Visions and AA actually is. Who even cares that it sounds more mainstream? The important thing is that she can actually write songs now.
>>61055822
The thing is, if we don't have whirlwind romances with the likes of Grimes, robots will be the only things left we can fuck.
>>61056153
>tfw no grimes baby
>>61053106
>Right now I'm using Ableton because I love that you can change tempo, keep key and just pitch things around really easily
my sides are in fucking orbit
>>61053351
Are you autistic?
>>61055111
rekt
>>61052838
lol, this sub is so clueless...
>>61053405
WAAAAAAH YOU INSULTED A WOMAN! YOU'RE SEXIST!
go cry some more you spineless pussy
>>61053540
I never realized "retarded hipster cunt" was a gender. What a time to be alive!
>>61057045
>sub
back to reddit
I miss the days before all this SJW stuff blew up and we could actually discuss females without the endless bizarre diatribes
I don't think militant feminism is a good thing, I don't really care. What I do care about is music, and it's very dull having to sift through pages of weirdo MRA's whining about women in every thread about female musicians, or pages of racists calling black people monkeys in hip-hop threads etc.
It's definitely gotten significantly worse in even the last couple of years.
>>61057300
if you really cared about music you wouldn't be posting in a Grimes thread, cuz she's shit
>>61057290
it's a subchan get with it, newfag
>>61057324
/thread
>>61057324
kek
You see, even this kind of shitposting is better. At least it can be funny
>>61055302
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>>61057045
you are clueless, dude
>>61056807
No, you're just a fucking idiot.
>>61056697
This, the interview only furthers the point that she doesn't have much knowledge of production or theory
>>61055111
But the sucker of OP called them industry puppets when they're clearly independent artists (they can whatever they want artistically).
>Grimeth is on 4AD which is distributed by Virgin, and Annie's on Republic, which is a division of Universal.
These are distribution deals/making the actual CDs/vinyl; nothing to do with the making/producing of their music.
>>61058621
No one has gotten further in the music industry whose entire talent is a decent melodic sensibility. And it's a shame, because womankind needs a brilliant, strong-willed artist right now, a Carole King or Björk... Or even Feist! But instead they get the lady behind Flesh Without Blood. Goddamnit.
>>61058673
Real indie shit is distributed without the co-option and corruption of giant corporations, ya dingus. Check out a Bandcamp thread sometime if you want real DIY.
>>61058730
>bjork
what would she be without the cutesy act and getting producers to give her the hip new sound
>>61058357
no you are!
>>61058979
If this were 2010, I could see that argument. But with Vulnicura (>inb4 it's all Arca's doing) and her bracing, whirlwind Tri Angle Records DJ Set, it's clear now that she has a creative genius of her own.
