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Give me one reason why King Crimson isn't the greatest prog rock band, if not any band in general, of all time.
>>61038316
meh vocalists
>>61038316
Band member changes every few years results in various amounts of quality between releases, they're not consistent enough to be the best of anything
>>61038361
Any actual reasons?
Because Can exists
The Mother of Invention, Can, Floyd are all better, then it's King Crimson.
>>61038385
That is an actual reason
>>61038316
I agree with you that they are the best prog band, and one of the best rock bands ever
>>61038846
>Pink Floyd better than King Crimson
Fucking no
>>61038316
Henry Cow is much better even though I do enjoy KC
Personally, Floyd > KC.
Faust exists
because we're on /mu/ and king crimson are too popular
>>61038316
i cannot
Objectively correct rankings so far?
Frank Zappa > King Crimson > Henry Cow > Pink Floyd > Can > Faust > Chrome
don't you hate it when people present their (bad) opinions as objective truth
don't you hate it when people take /mu/ seriously
>>61039022
krauts are better than Floyd, but otherwise understandable
>>61039022
That's still subjective, since for some PF > KC. So you're not objectively representing how these bands should be ranked.
>>61039022
henry cow and zappa should be nowhere fucking near king crimson
>>61039223
Yeah, but Floyd making Interstellar Overdrive in 1967 and Ummagumma in 1969 is why I put them ahead of the krauts. Maybe I'm underrating Faust though.
>>61039235
It's not about taste preference, but about what artists we consider to be the bests (not necessarily our favorites).
>>61039251
What do you mean?
>>61039294
Keyword there is 'we'. It's not objective if it's your opinion, man :3
Updated!
Frank Zappa > The Velvet Underground > King Crimson > Henry Cow > The Beatles > Pink Floyd > Can > Don Caballero > Mr Bungle > Faust > Godspeed You! Black Emperor > Chrome > Beach Boys
>>61039373
>It's not objective if it's your opinion, man :3
That's why I'm looking for alternative points of view, to improve those rankings
>>61039399
How can you put The Beatles before Pink Floyd? D:
>>61039251
They are both much better
>>61039399
>Velvet Underground before Henry Cow and Bungle
O I am laffin
>>61039485
Because:
Tomorrow Never Knows
A Day In The Life
Helter Skelter
vs
Interstellar Overdrive
Ummagumma
IMO, The Beatles are better when comparing them this way.
>>61039564
What's wrong?
Genesis was better.
>>61039399
>Mr. Bungle
*pukes everywhere*
Your list is pretty good other than that, although I'd put The Beatles higher and Henry Cow a lot lower, but hey it's your taste not mine.
>>61038361
>meh vocalists
>prog band
>caring about vocalists
Also Greg Lake, John Wetton and Adrian Belew were all pretty solid. Especially Lake and Belew.
>>61039294
>what artists we consider to be the bests
>we consider
Therefore not objective.
>>61039399
>alternative points of view
Now you're implying that gathering together multiple subjective viewpoints somehow makes it objective? You're a fucking idiot, my friend.
>>61039591
Not him but how can you appreciate stuff like Zappa or Crimson and not at least enjoy Disco Volante?
>>61039591
Mr Bungle were pretty good, you have to admit it, especially with Disco Volante and California
This is not about taste though.
And yes, Henry Cow could be lower, but Beatles definitely not higher.
>>61039603
>Therefore not objective.
You are not supposed to take the "objectivity" part seriously.
>Now you're implying that gathering together multiple subjective viewpoints somehow makes it objective? You're a fucking idiot, my friend.
I'm not implying that :)
>>61039399
What a faggot rating desu.
>>61039574
Henry Cow didn't only consist of virtuoso musician but they had impeccable taste and highbrow artistic concepts beyond what KC have achieved in my opinion
Bungle also played light years ahead of those junkies. VU we no doubt a great new band in their time but come on
>>61039647
>You are not supposed to take the "objectivity" part seriously.
So you're trying to appeal to some kind of "pseudo-objectivity", or you're just memeing entirely?
>>61039695
Ranking =/= Rating!
>>61039709
King Crimson and Henry Cow were about the same when it came to originality/creativity. Maybe if you add Art Bears to Henry Cow you could say Henry Cow were better, but I'm not very convinced so far.
Bungle were great too, but their stuff wasn't as "essential" as Crimson's.
TVU are very overrated on my list, that's true.
>>61039761
Just don't take it so seriously...
I'm just trying to make a list about the best rock artists with a focus on what we could consider best instead of my favorites.
>>61039625
>ow can you appreciate stuff like Zappa or Crimson and not at least enjoy Disco Volante?
Uuuh are you implying that album is Zappa or Crimson-esque?
this is why they are not the greatest prog rock band
>>61039886
It's kind of Zappa-esque
>>61039913
Nah
>>61039886
Are you implying he's not?
Idk how so many people put Crimson on some upper echelon pedestal when there are just as many equal or better bands
>>61039399
>mr. bungle
god you really are the worst trip
go listen to more cardiacs
>>61039913
that's one of the lamest band photos i've ever seen
>>61039962
They are one of the best modern bands.
Also, I didn't mention Cardiacs anywhere on my list c;
>>61039962
How can you like music and not be able to appreciate Bungle?
>>61039969
who cares its just a pic senpai
>>61039980
theyre seriously not
mike is the biggest hack known to man
what are you going to put slipknot and tool in there next
>>61040019
You seem biased c;
>>61040019
Why don't you give a reason why you think they are bad beside hollow talentless hack memes
>>61039949
>Are you implying he's not?
Huh? I was talking about Mr. Bungle.
Second greatest anon, second greatest.
>>61039647
>>61039647
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>>61039647
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>>61039647
mujercita
>>61040151
Yes and all 70s prog is poo, post-2000 prog is where its at
>>61039399
Frank Zappa is the biggest hack in prog history
What the fuck is Don Caballero doing there? I love them but you can't compare math with prog.
Also, where the fuck is Magma or Ruins?
>>61040175
>>61040177
>>61040228
>>61040290
I love this shit
>>61040362
>you can't compare math with prog
Stop posting m8
Frank Zappa > King Crimson > Henry Cow > The Velvet Underground > The Beatles > Pink Floyd > Can > Magma > Ruins > Don Caballero > Mr Bungle > Faust > Godspeed You! Black Emperor > Chrome > Beach Boys
>>61040175
>>61040290
>>61040362
buenos memes
>>61040362
Frank Zappa wasn't a hack. What have you heard by him that you think so?
Also, this is a rock list, not a prog rock one, that's why Caballero is there.
I'm adding Ruins and Magma right now
>>61040327
>modern prog
>any good
>>61040445
Why the fuck would you consider VU before magma, PF, Beatles, and Faust
>>61038897
>Fucking no
Fucking no
>>61040507
Because they were a very original band
>>61040507
Faust sounds like down syndrome
>>61040557
>!!
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>>61040638
Lmao like VU doesn't fit that description. sounds like tards withdrawing from smack
>lets play two chords for ten minutes
>>61040445
are you implying that those are all prog bands
>>61040440
Well, math is about weird time signatures and prog is about, well, progressive music.
Also, math comes from punk, which was the literal opposite scene to prog rock.
Try to compare toe with Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso.
You can't.
>>61040445
Oh well.
Idk, years ago when i was part of the autistic prog fandom I really hated him because of his lolsorandom persona, and because almost all of his work sound pretty uninspired and repetitive.
>Mr Bungle over Godspeed
>Henry Cow over TVU
>The Beatles and Pink Floyd over Can
Fix your shit senpai
>>61040848
>I really hated him because of his lolsorandom persona
>hating the music for non-musical reasons
Plen
>and because almost all of his work sound pretty uninspired and repetitive.
That's just so wrong.
Did you only hear Hot Rats or something?
>Mr Bungle over Godspeed
No
>Henry Cow over TVU
No
>The Beatles and Pink Floyd over Can
Yes
>>61040848
Please explain how VU is better than Henry Cow
Idk how so many people here who supposedly like music can hold this shit tier opinion
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_BMr5NP8mqs
>>61038444
this is the only correct answer. Can and King Crimson are the best bands of all time
>>61039399
embarrassing
Supertramp senpai
>>61042152
>>61042188
supertramp are awesome fuck off
>>61038897
pink floyd more consistent and catcher
