HOLY SHIT THIS PIANIST IS AWFUL
how the fuck do people like this shit
are you fucks that gullible to marketing
I haven't listened to this album, but I'm posting in this thread.
It suffers from a very narrow dynamic range and repetition of themes/ instrumental motifs (e.g. interjectional, blaring chorus).
Clair de Lune was awful. He doesn't even get the rhythm of the original correct in the exposition.
yeah it's poop
>>60987903
three hours of ultra-safe jazz
fun
its not a perfect album, but its a very good one
It's awful meme jazz.
>>60987903
How long was this album?
I dropped it at the fourth song.
Literal meme jazz.
The funniest part is, you could listen to 3 acclaimed spiritual jazz albums from the 60's to actually get a start on the genre, and it'd still be 2 hours less than this shit.
>>60987973
shitty soloists and generic style make it less than good
is this album a new meme?
>>60988000
It had memetic potential, but it was too drawn out so the meme density was sub par.
>>60987903
God, I hate this album. Fuck it.
>>60988000
depends, is this a meme?
kamasi is black so he probably knows more about jazz than all this white death grips teens
>>60988052
Yes.
how do you measure the meme in a song?
>>60988093
lol
dis album has over 2000 ratings on rym omg lmfao
is there even a better definition off a meme album? the only reason ppl listened too it is cuz it was hyped by p4k and fantano and has "cool" cover (its actually shit just as the music)
>>60988281
it's EPIC lmao
>>60988281
teen detected
For the 14 posters in this thread: do you guys actually listen to a lot of jazz? If so, make recommendations.
>>60988373
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/boldfaure/jazz_albums_better_than_the_epic/
>>60988373
Sahara by McCoy Tyner is ten times better than this shit.
>>60988408
Is that your list?
>>60988408
I've been looking for that Tim Berne album. I thought the JHB album was just a comedy record?
>>60988414
Been meaning to get into Tyner. Will check out.
>>60988408
Uhh, is that Joey Alexander album written by a literal 12 year old?
>>60988364
is ur score 4 dis album a 4.5 or a 5 lol
>>60988408
dis list couldve as well included all the other 2015 jazz albums except 4 like 5 off them desu
>Jazz has been dying off more and more with each successive generation
>Albums like this excite young people
>Jazz fans rage because it's not the epitome of jazz
Shouldn't fans of jazz be jumping on any breakthrough mainstream success they get and celebrate it rather than condemning it?
>>60988538
My thoughts exactly. It's hard to get my normie friends excited about jazz.
>>60988538
Fellow jazz fans are some of the most elitist snobs, up there with kvlt black metal fans and people who legitimately hate Karajan.
>>60988538
This album is a pedantic and self-masturbatory piece with barely any redeeming features.
It's the worst kind of jazz.
>>60988538
jazz might b in not the best form then ever but its certainly 1 off the most forward thinking genres nowadays and if u say its dead then u probably dont actually listen2 it much
>>60988538
I think most serious music listeners DO react this way, it's just that we're on 4chan, which is a bastion of negativity
>I don't like it, therefore it's a meme
>>60988538
It's an overproduced novelty album
>>60988538
>>60988549
They're just pissed because of the FlyLo/Kendrick Lamar association and that will give the album more exposure than it necessarily deserves.
Those slating the album here probably aren't even jazz fans, they're just the usual /mu/ contingent that likes to bash anything that's popular.
>>60988610
this.
>>60988610
look i can do it to
>i like it therefore its not a meme
im so smart i win lol
>>60988633
>muh no true jazz fan fallacy
>>60988481
Yeah
>>60988482
It is a comedy record but strangely compelling.
>>60988538
what, precisely, would be the point of "jumping on any breakthrough mainstream success?" what stands to be gained? funding for more middling garbage? the popularity of Kamasi Washington will not help to usher in an era of better-selling forward-thinking jazz. it will help to usher in more new fans who don't want to do their homework and revise history. look at what happened to house music, for God's sake. the amount of people who see Daft Punk as originators or architects of that genre is obscene, and they are a winning cult that has forced real house music even farther into the shadows.
>>60988578
Karajan is a shit conductor and I doubt you even listen to multiple interpretations of pieces.
>>60988679
b-b-b-but if it weren't for Ka-Ka-Ka-Karajan, I wouldn't be so into a small range of canon pieces that I can show to my friends to feign eclecticism! where would classical music be without exposure to mainstream audiences like me!
>>60988538
>>60988549
>>60988578
Do you think Max Richter got people interested in classical music?
>>60988669
>Daft Punk
omfg i wanted too compare dis album too something else and now i now
the epic is too jazz what random access memories was too disco
>>60988756
yeah, exactly. a "revival" that really just gets hipsters a notch in their "eclectic belt" without deviating too far from what they expect from music anyway. protip: this is the real reason black metal fans hate Deafheaven - we don't care if people integrate other genres (even if it usually sounds like ass, as it does with Deafheaven). we care that there are a bunch of scummy fucks who listen to it because it sounds like music they already like and then they start talking about their affection for black metal and how diverse their listening is despite not being able to name a single originator of the genre.
>>60988723
yes you don't?
>>60988792
>despite not being able to name a single originator of the genre
Darkthrone and Burzum are memes also.
>>60988792
i hate deafheaven cuz theyre shit but whatever floats ur boat
fanbase is another thing entirely and its not much different from usual blackgaze/shitty atmo bm pseudo hipster p4k reading kids
>>60988841
Of course not, thy just kept listening to Reich and similar.
>>60988855
and they're both second-wave black metal
>>60988855
>2nd wave
>originators
???
>>60988792
you obviously care so much more about image than music, it's not even funny
>>60988855
But those are too easy. There are a few bands that never got past demos or eps but were considered influential and are very obscure to those that aren't familiar with the genre.
>>60988646
>whether or not it's a meme makes any difference as to whether or not you enjoy it.
You get how empty it is to identify a meme right? It's literally just sitting here and seeing what people talk about a lot. It doesn't exactly suggest that you know anything about music that you can recognize repeated words on a taiwanese breakdancing forum.
>>60988903
>caring about the sustainability of artistic evolution in genres you like
>not allowed because muh fashion / compensation for not knowing the history of things i like
>>60988901
>>60988903
The so-called first wave of black metal - Bathory, Venom, Hellhammer et al are really just proto-black metal. They're just death metal with dark themes.
>>60987940
He played Clair de Lune so straight too, what the fuck was that about.
>>60988984
>death metal with dark theme
No.
>>60988984
and the originators of house made disco
and the originators of jazz made ragtime
and the originators of rock and roll made electric blues and country and rockabilly
and the originators of serialism started with darker romantic compositions
what is your point?
>>60988970
every post you make is about how you're much better than others in your choices regarding music listening, and you're going to deny that you're not image-obsessed? find another hobby to defile with your greedy attention-starved pig hands
>>60988984
that's true for Venom (though you meant to say thrash, not death) but you'd be retarded to say that Bathory didn't have straight up black albums.
>>60989075
>projections
i know it's easy to feel personally targeted when people make valid points about your lazy listening habits and lack of engagement with music you supposedly like, but come on
>>60988646
cringe
>>60989125
and there you go making personal attacks when people hit a little too close to the truth. classic boldfaure
>>60989185
He's not me, but nice try.
>>60989206
then please consider being confused with him a wake up call
>>60988679
>>60988722
Case in point.
>>60989185
>and there you go making personal attacks when people make personal attacks
got 'em!
>>60989227
No, not really.
You're probably one of the like 2 people that obsess over me.
>>60988052
Max Richter is a meme
>>60989240
Case in point about what? Karajan is garbage. The orchestras always sounded mushy and the interpretations were overly romantic.
>>60989247
so it was you after all. embarrassing
>>60989292
No, it wasn't.
I've posted in this thread but that wasn't me.
Jesus Christ you're obsessive.
>>60988962
dis album is literally and unquestionably a meme regardless off its quality tho its got like 10 times more ratings on rym then second most popular jazz release off 2015
the fact dat its shit to helps in criticizing it a lot i must say
>>60989129
u got memed on hard nerd
