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MBV is better than Loveless.
Idk I like it more than Loveless but I'm not sure if it's better. Shoegaze album of the decade though.
Also, Trompe Le Monde is the best Pixies album, and Surfer Rosa > Doolittle.
Also, Manic Street Preachers are underrated.
Also, Oasis suck.
Also, Pablo Honey is not bad at all.
>>60900990
Only "Oasis suck." part is correct.
>>60900990
Only "Pablo Honey is not bad" part is correct
I think every Smashing Pumpkins album before Adore is at least a 9/10
>>60900990
Only "Manics are underrated" part is correct.
>>60901322
You can say that regarding Adore too bruh. Nice dubs
>>60900843
True
For my own,
Soon Over Babaluma is one of Can's best albums. Monster Movie is their worst.
Miles Davis' music got progressively better throughout his solo career until 1972-76, his artistic peak. His music post-retirement is not legacy-defacing as purists claim, but it's a definitive step backwards.
Midnight Marauders is the best Tribe album (obviously), but would be much, much better if Award Tour and 8 Million Stories were cut. Their second best (and most consistant) is Beats, Rhymes, and Life. "After Hours" off People's Travels is the best-produced hip-hop song of the 80's.
On the subject of Native Tongues, the best album ever released by the collective was Buhloose Mindstate by De La Soul.
Pat Metheny is easily one of the top 5 songwriters of the past half-century.
Ornette Coleman made his best music in the 80's, when his innovative ideas concerning melody and harmony were fully realized.
Lil Wayne was the best rapper of the 2000's, and the decade's undisputed king of pop.
I'd rather perform open heart surgery on myself than listen to Queen.
Buddy Rich is probably the most overrated musician of all time. All showmanship and zero real creativity or impact on the genre.
Built to Spill's Keep it Like a Secret is much, MUCH better than Perfect From Now On.
Tortoise is the best post-rock band, ever.
The Unseen >>>> Madvillainy. The highs are higher on Madvillainy but wayyy too much filler. Take Me To Your Leader is DOOM's best solo outing.
The Minutemen were the best band of the 80's.
Thelonious Monk was a much better composer than piano player.
For all the hate they get for their cheesiness, Return to Forever made consistently engaging, exciting melodic jazz albums throughout their career with no true duds in their catalog.
>>60900843
Loveless is by MBV, retard.
Isn't Anything is better than both
Flaming Lips suck
here we go
>Dubstep is shit, with the exception of one or two skrillex songs
>Coldplay are far better than Radiohead and, especially U2 (who are probably the worst band of all time)
>Blur's only good song is Song 2 and they really are talentless dickheads.
>Oasis is far better than Blur by a long shot and are the only good Britpop band besides Coldplay.
>Mumford & Sons and Imagine Dragons are actually pretty good and should be commended for being some of the few good indie bands who infiltrated the mainstream
>Music definitely has gone somewhat downhill and the shear quantity of music released nowadays means that good music is harder to find
>Trip-hop is shit (Even Burial and Massive Attack)
>Queen, PF, and The Beatles were really great bands and are probably the most influential artists of the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
>Nirvana was the second best artist of the 80s and the best artist of the 90s.
>UK Garage music is the best musical genre to be invented in the last 10 years and UK garage bands like the white stripes, the strokes, the libertines, and the arctic monkeys were defining bands of the decade
>I really don't like 'Oldschool' or 'newschool' rap music, but Gorillaz are the best rap group and one of the most creative and innovative bands of the 2000s
>I don't really like much any music released this decade except by established bands
>Metal is not for kids and is a great genre
>Most indie music like fun. and capital cities is crap for girls
>Electronic music isn't a talentless genre (See: Deadmau5, Disclosure, and Daft Punk) but most people who make it are talentless hacks and it barely counts as music
>most /mu/core is shit
>Daft Punk are actually really good and are deserve to be famous
>I don't think that songs without singing are good
>I think jazz is boring
>I think people who still download or own digital copies of music instead of just using spotify and youtube are stupid. And I think people who still buy physical music are even worse and are hipsters
In Rainbows is the most overrated and reddit album in Radiohead's discography.
>>60901405
kek
>>60901377
I don't know it's just something about Adore and Machina rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it has something to do with the goth direction they went in.
The Antlers is the best band to emerge in the last 10 years.
Kid Cudi is a good rapper
>>60901397
you're fine
>>60901446
listen to more music if you honestly think that
>>60901431
>>>/reddit/
>>60900843
There is little to salvage on this collection of mediocre derivative songs. This is the confused work of musicians with no inspiration who desperately try different styles hoping that at least one will work. Maybe they were not so great after all. In the annals of rock music i can't remember a reunion that did not disappoint. I would be glad to write that this is the exception to the rule.
>>60901446
my unpopular opinion: hospice is one of the worst albums i've ever listened to
it's the audio equivalent of a lifetime movie. i can't believe that people think it's deep or emotionally affecting. it's like a parody of all the irritating things about indie rock.
>>60901431
ALL HAIL THE PLEB KING
Late Registration is Kanye's best album.
>>60901405
:^)
>>60901509
In addition to that, Wake and Sylvia are the only musically interesting songs on the whole album
>>60900843
>>60901522
these are tru though desu senpai
>>60901460
I listen to a bunch of music. I just think that The Antlers have put out the most stuff that i enjoy.
Mind sharing some good musicians and bands that have emerged in the last 10 years?
>>60901431
all correct
>>60901431
>Dubstep is shit, with the exception of one or two skrillex songs
correct
>Coldplay are far better than Radiohead
wrong. objectively wrong. coldplay has like one talented guy and even he just sorta wings it on the songwriting part
>and, especially U2 (who are probably the worst band of all time)
well, ok but I can think of worse whatever let all shit on U2, I'm in!
>Blur's only good song is Song 2 and they really are talentless dickheads.
yeah blur, love that song 2 though
>>Oasis is far better than Blur by a long shot and are the only good Britpop band besides Coldplay.
oasis have like 3 or 4 good songs, so yes long shot!
>>Mumford & Sons and Imagine Dragons are actually pretty good and should be commended for being some of the few good indie bands who infiltrated the mainstream
ok now you're just fucking with us.
>>Music definitely has gone somewhat downhill and the shear quantity of music released nowadays means that good music is harder to find
dumb opinion.
>>Trip-hop is shit (Even Burial and Massive Attack)
dumb opinion
>>Queen, PF, and The Beatles were really great bands and are probably the most influential artists of the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
k
>>Nirvana was the second best artist of the 80s and the best artist of the 90s.
i dont even get your angle anymore
>>UK Garage music is the best musical genre to be invented in the last 10 years and UK garage bands like the white stripes, the strokes, the libertines, and the arctic monkeys were defining bands of the decade
yuck
>>I really don't like 'Oldschool' or 'newschool' rap music, but Gorillaz are the best rap group and one of the most creative and innovative bands of the 2000s
kill yourself
>>I don't really like much any music released this decade except by established bands
literal plebian
>>Metal is not for kids and is a great genre
no comment
>>Most indie music like fun. and capital cities is crap for girls
ok, so what?....
got bored reading your opinions how old are you like 15?
>>60901446
I love The Antlers, but I think Deerhunter are better in a lot of ways. Also, the best band of the past 10 years is probably LSD & The Search For God.
>>60901397
MM is definitely the best Tribe album. I think it's marginally better than Buhloon Mindstate. I am gonna have to disagree with removing Award Tour, tho. That track is one of the highlights of the album.
>>60900843
Glider EP is My Bloody Valentine's best release. Also, their weakest tracks are the "When You _____" ones. When You Sleep prevents Loveless from being a perfect 10.
>>60901639
>I love The Antlers, but I think Deerhunter are better in a lot of ways.
why compare them? their musical styles are very different
>>60901619
If you are 12
>>60901630
literally no one cares enough to read through all that
>GY!BE are awful
>The new Pixies album was at least a 7/10
>Strangers to Ourselves is as good as M&A
>Heathen and Outside are in the top 5 Bowie albums
>>60901431
">Coldplay are far better than Radiohead"
this shouldn't have to be said
anyone is better than radiohead
>>60901639
>the best band of the past 10 years is LSD & The Search of God
How in the fuck can anyone think this?
>>60901639
>trashes on arguably mbv's catchiest and most accessible song ever.
sorry that they couldn't be on your level
>>60901653
They're both derivative Urban Outfitters-core (not in a bad way, though). I lump them in with other modern acts like Beach House, and Cut Copy. All are decent acts, but don't hold a candle to their influences.
>>60901397
>Built to Spill's Keep it Like a Secret is much, MUCH better than Perfect From Now On.
that's not There's Nothing Wrong With Love you faggot
otherwise I agree with you
>>60901405
He's saying that they, as a band, can do better than loveless and suggesting that m b v is proof of that.
I like them both equally but I'm pretty indecisive with most things
>>60901431
>here we go
Stopped reading there
>>60901703
if they don't listen to any music that isn't spammed on /mu/ i suppose
>one slightly above-average shoegaze EP that gets attention because DUDE DRUGS LMAO
>best band of the decade
>>60901703
Best melodies, best tones, best textures, and to top it off, they sound like they're actually in control of their sound. But if you're one of those kiddos who thinks Starting Over is their best track, you probably don't "get" them.
>>60901722
The track is too in-your-face and blows its load in one listen. When people call shoegaze "fuzzy pop-rock" as an insult, they're usually referring to tracks like When You Sleep. Loveless is best when it's droney and oscillating between dissonance & harmony (tracks like THWK and Blown A wish illustrate this nicely).
>>60901765
liar
>>60901630
Found the pleb
>>60901810
>literally going on about changes he would have made to loveless
Bjork's music is unremarkable
Free jazz is best jazz
Metal and Hip Hop are both mediocre genres
D.I. Go Pop is the best post-rock record
Most rock released past the 90s is shit
>>60901431
>Electronic music isn't a talentless genre (See: Deadmau5, Disclosure, and Daft Punk) but most people who make it are talentless hacks and it barely counts as music
umm
>>60901891
>Most rock released past the 90s is shit
ok but most everything ever is shit.
>>60901431
nice pasta
unless this is Boats, did you get a new trip..?
>>60901810
>best melodies
arguable
>best tones
heh lots of contemporany shoegaze bands have amazing tones, what makes LSD's tones so great?
>best textures
You're telling me in these past 10 years no one explored or created textures at the level of LSD? Really?
Don't get me wrong, I love their EP, but to call them the best band of the past 10 years seems ludicrous.
Protection is the best Massive Attack album
>>60901918
let me paraphrase:
compared to the 90s, which were arguably the peak of rock music, the 00s and 10s can't even begin to compare
>>60901812
Bruh
>>60901872
I think they should've replaced When You Sleep with Off Your Face.
>>60901947
What other band has put out a better "rock" album in the past 10 years? We could do a track comparison if you'd like.
>>60902068
We don't need to go into the sea of "rock". I think mbv is better than LSD's EP desu.
>>60901962
>No Protection
FTFY
>>60902151
MBV is brought down by New You and Nothing Is.
LSD&TSFG is tighter because it contains only 5 tracks, of which the weakest one (I Don't Care) is still an 8/10.
Only Tomorrow is better than (or at least on par) with the best tracks on LSD&TSFG (This Time, Backwards, & Starshine), but none of the other tracks on MBV reach that tier.
>>60901431
>>I think people who still download or own digital copies of music instead of just using spotify and youtube are stupid. And I think people who still buy physical music are even worse and are hipsters
holy shit are you retarded? album sales are what help musicians to continue creating music.
>Pink Floyd are the most accurately rated band in the history of popular music
>Blur ARE shite
>Oasis ARE also shite
>Stockhausen's Kontakte is the greatest acid trip ever
>Neil Young is the epitome of boring dadrock
>approximately half of /mu/core is good
>poptimism is indeed cancer
>Neon Indian has had consistently brilliant albums
>true patriciandom is to try to find things to love about music, not hate
>giving favour to obscure albums over popular ones for the sake of apperance should be a sin.
>>60900843
Low>Lodger>Heros.
Young Americans > Station to Station.
MBV was great until "Nothing Is" which is the biggest slap in the face to fans who waited for new My Bloody Valentine content.
The Smiths and Nirvana are grossly overrated.
Diamonds and Pearls by Prince is pretty damn good.
I'm not sure if people actually like Death Grips or if it's all one big joke. I mean it's pretty damn funny but I would never seriously listen to them.
The Final Cut by Pink Floyd is really good.
Look Mom No Head by The Cramps is their best album.
Machina 1 and 2 by The Smashing Pumpkins have the potential to be amazing if they get remixed/reissued in the way Billy wanted.
>>60902263
New You is GOAT m8 it has some gorgeous melodies on it, it doesn't drag the album down one bit.
Also, all the tracks in mbv are bloody great and on level of LSD's imo, but in a more subtle, relaxed way.
Plus mbv manages to be diverse while maintaining a cohesive atmosphere.
I agree Nothing Is could have more stuff going on or be shortened a bit, but it serves its purpose right as a transition into Wonder 2.
Also, there's the fact LSD copped a chunk of their sound from mbv (sounding more 'generic') although they do it really damn well.
>>60902427
>Machina 1 and 2 by The Smashing Pumpkins have the potential to be amazing if they get remixed/reissued in the way Billy wanted.
this
>I'm not sure if people actually like Death Grips or if it's all one big joke. I mean it's pretty damn funny but I would never seriously listen to them.
The same way you'd listen to punk or hip-hop. They're just energetic and angry music. Plus their production i pretty good.
>The Smiths and Nirvana are grossly overrated.
Nirvana are in terms of music quality (although In Utero deserves all the praise it gets)
Disagree about The Smiths though, they were the perfect jangle group.
>blur only has one good song [boys and girls]
>pornography is the only good album by the cure
>ok computer is by far the best radiohead album
>bjork went shit after homogenic
>swans is mostly bad
>art angels wasn't bad
>only post metal is good
>death metal especially is crap
>hardcore punk is shit
>>60902640
Literally what is post metal? Examples please I never heard the term
>>60902393
>Pink Floyd are the most accurately rated band in the history of popular music
>unpopular
thats literally a popular opinion
>>60902678
stuff like neurosis.
Oh boy, time to let out all my pleb opinions!:
>Talk Talk was okay but then got boring as fuck when Hollis tried too hard to be artistic
>Post-rock in general is a bad genre
>Pink Floyd is a much better band than /mu/ gives it credit for, but is worse than how normies treat it
>Pop music inherently requires lots of talent to create, as it is very difficult to make music that the majority of people can like
>Joy Division and pretty much every other post-punk/New Wave/etc. band is awful and are only liked by scene kids and tumblrites
>Herman Li is a great guitarist
>Nobody actually likes no-wave, musique concrete, and harsh noise; they just pretend to in order to look "patrician"
>HANL, Giles Corey, The Antlers, and all other similar acts are bad and are only liked because they appeal to neckbeard feels
>>60901431
The Strokes are an american band tho
>>60902640
>hardcore punk is shit
Big Boi > Andre 3000
Feel you OP. I was introduced to the band with MBV, and I love it far more than anything else they've made. Praying they release more stuff soon.
>>60901431
>I don't think that songs without singing are good
>I think jazz is boring
>I really don't like 'Oldschool' or 'newschool' rap music, but Gorillaz are the best rap group and one of the most creative and innovative bands of the 2000s
im physically in pain bc of your opinions
>>60902721
>Joy Division and pretty much every other post-punk/New Wave/etc. band is awful and are only liked by scene kids and tumblrites
explain
have you even heard enough post punk ?
>>60901431
>all these people falling for the pasta
topkek
>>60902763
obvious bait
>>60902738
it really is .
post hardcore is a good thing that came out of it though.
>>60902721
>Joy Division and pretty much every other post-punk/New Wave/etc. band is awful and are only liked by scene kids and tumblrites
>Nobody actually likes no-wave, musique concrete, and harsh noise; they just pretend to in order to look "patrician"
These things are not opinions. They are just incorrect statements
>>60901431
>White Stripes
>British
ummm
>>60902850
just ignore the redditor
>>60902640
>Pornography is good but Faith and Seventeen Seconds aren't
Are you fucking retarded?
>>60902895
I don't really remember eighteen seconds,thanks for recommendation. I'll like it if it's as cold as pornography.
can't into poppy the cure,the smiths was way superior in every way at that.
>>60902393
>Pink Floyd are the most accurately rated band in the history of popular music
>approximately half of /mu/core is good
>poptimism is indeed cancer
>true patriciandom is to try to find things to love about music, not hate
>giving favour to obscure albums over popular ones for the sake of apperance should be a sin.
these are all popular opinions dipshit
>>60901431
the last three aren't even trying to hide the bait
>>60901405
lol get the fuck out of here
>>60901601
You probably won't get a reply because he is insecure of his own music taste
>>60901397
>Lil Wayne was the best rapper of the 2000's, and the decade's undisputed king of pop.
>I'd rather perform open heart surgery on myself than listen to Queen.
>>>/lewronggeneration/
>>60902976
>>60902718
So suddenly from out of fucking nowhere these become popular opinions? Oh so everyone else in literally every thread since I came to this fucking place about 7 years ago was just being edgy or contrarian? Thanks for clearing that up.
>>60901446
speaking of The Antlers, In The Attic Of The Universe and Uprooted are better than Hospice
>>60902947
Faith isn't as dark as Pronography but it's way more apathetic/bleak. In a way it's just as depressing.
Seventeen Seconds is in the vain of Faith but less intense (as in less bleak, it has higher peaks though).
Also Disintegration is undeniably GOAT m8 give it another chance.
>>60903204
ok I only heard disintegration once an /d the singles many times tho)
I will deff give it a go.
>>60902504
>New You is GOAT m8 it has some gorgeous melodies on it, it doesn't drag the album down one bit.
It's the type of track I'd expect from an Urban Outfitters-core nu-gaze/dreampop band. I bump Isn't Anything and their 88-91 EPs on the regular (which I LOVE), so it took me a while to come to terms with the fact that they finally put out a track I didn't like.
I get too much of a crossover-pop vibe from the track and it gets worse with each listen. Only Tomorrow on the other hand, only gets better with each listen.
>Also, there's the fact LSD copped a chunk of their sound from mbv, although they do it really damn well.
I see a lot of nu-gaze acts try to copy MBV, but LSD&TSFG were the only ones that actually went all the way with it instead of just half-assing the sound. The production is what really makes the EP shine.
The right melodies become apparent at just the right time in between the reverb, feedback, and effects. All these elements work off one another and in tandem. It's something you don't really see on albums like Souvlaki or Nowehere imo.
It's what sets bands like MBV and LSD&TSFG apart. The bit at 2:51 on Backwards kills me every time.
The funny bit is that I initially hated LSD&TSFG. I looked em up after a few /shugazi/ posters recc'd the EP stating that their sound was identical to MBV, and was quite disappointed to find out that they don't really sound like them at all (at first).
Wasn't until I got way too high one night and heard the album that it clicked for me. I could hear all these subtler elements working off one another in the construction of these "sonic collages" that would serve as the "base" for the more in-your-face
vocal and rhythm guitar melodies to rest on. The end result is enjoyable whether you want to focus on just the melodies, just the textures, or just the effects. I highly recommend anyone reading this to give the EP another shot, provided you're willing to
listen to it LOUD and with your full attention,
Their second best album
>>60901431
>Trip Hop is shit
virgin detected
>>60903302
>Urban-Outfiters-core
that's not criticism m8
I was definitely not disappointed by mbv, it showed a logical, more mature progression to their sound, more dense and less energetic. It sounds really unique among the genre imo.
>>60903162
I think Familiars is their best, which is probably an unpopular opinion.
>>60901891
Bork
>unremarkable
Hip hop/Metal
>mediocre
and to think i actually kind of used to look up to you
ok mine:
Death Grips are the most innovative band of the decade and have established their own movement (like punk had with blues and hard rock) within hip-hop
Vaporwave is an underrated genre
Boards of Canada are terribly average
Kendrick Lamar is the best rapper of all time and TBaB might be the greatest album i have heard so far this century
earl sweat's first mixtape is many times better than any of the other stuff he has put out except for maybe 1 or 2 songs from doris.
>>60905042
Ok, unremarkable is a little too harsh, but still, the constant praise and circlejerking she recieves on this boards is unreal.
Also Hip Hop and Metal artists really too much on authenticity and image. Artists that deviate from the usually formula and try to experiment are shunned. Metal has a lot of neat subgenres though, I'll give it that
