If you had any of the following thoughts while listening to this album
>WOW this is mindblowing!
>three hours but SO worth it
>kamasi washington is an amazing sax player!!
>THIS PROVES JAZZ IS NOT DEAD!!!!!
then you are a pleb you haven't actively listened to any jazz releases from the past 10 years
Ok buddy name five jazz releases from the last ten years
If it's so shitty then why did it make the Wire's top 50?
>>60891749
>then you are a pleb you haven't actively listened to any jazz releases from the past 10 years
except I have and I loved The Epic
>inb4 you have to have listened to over 100000 jazz albums from 2005-2015 to be able to be allowed to say The Epic was a good album
>>60891762
How about just from 2015? These are my favourites from this year:
>Omer Klein - Fearless Friday
>Tigran Hamasyan - Mockroot
>Tigran Hamasyan - Luys i Luso
>Vijay Iyer Trio - Break Stuff
>Mark Guiliana Jazz Quartet - Family First
>The Bad Plus Joshua Redman
>Michael Wollny - Nachtfahrten
Want me to keep going?
>>60891749
also
>five years in the making (insert snark)
>>60891791
You answered your own question there
>>60891829
I'm pretty sure the writers at the Wire have better taste than some random faggot on 4chan.
>>60891820
yes, now order them.
>>60891817
So you're just admitting you have shit taste then and you only listen to jazz because DUDE LOL JAZZ
>>60891749
I'm sure there have been plenty of great jazz releases in the last 10 years, but Brainfeeder is a label I keep up with. So I listened to this, but other than this I'm not a jazz fanatic. I like jazz a lot, but I only listen the classics: miles, Coltrane, Louie. That and I like bbng. I'm down to listen to more just don't actively search for it
>>60891749
>If you had any of the following thoughts while listening to this album
>musical thoughtcrime
I haven't listened to this shit but I don't need this stress man
I don't need this insecurity
>>60891861
how do you get that from what I said?
>>60891874
Ps the epic was sick. Fuck off if you don't agree
>>60891908
Because the Epic is an objectively bad jazz album and if you had any serious interest in jazz you would agree. How can an album filled with mediocre solos using mostly pentanic and pentatonic blues scales be classed as THE REVIVAL OF JAZZ? Not to mention the lackluster compositions and keeping Thundercat wasted in the mix
The whole thing is just a shitty ripoff of Pharoah Sanders and the Coltranes for people who don't usually listen to jazz
>>60891749
It wasn't mind blowing but it was a pretty solid album.
>>60891956
Actually it's objectively the greatest jazz album of all time, this is a proven fact.
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>>60892129
You're right, Kamasi Washington is the second coming of Jesus Christ, riding his brass and reed steed
What do you guys think about Verneri Pohjola? His album is the "catchies" jazz record i have heard this year.
M E M E J A Z Z
>>60892232
the meme of attaching the word meme to the front of another word is dead fammo
>>60891749
But this album is 99.9% better than all the other jazz trash people here enjoy, The Epic is truly an epic album that will probably never be topped.
>>60892196
What I like about Verneri's quartet is they know how to keep things simple but they are all wonderful listeners and super tight
It's also great jazz to sing along too, "In La Borie" in particular
>>60892261
even with the spaces between each letter in all caps?
>>60892261
nice memebait
>>60891749
Any real jazz fan would realize this is one of the peaks of the genre, there's hardly any other recordings that can match the quality and consistency of this recording.
>>60892354
Is this a meme
>>60892445
This album is not a meme, it is a masterpiece, please leave plebeian.
What if I just enjoyed it OP
Warm feelings without tipping my feddydoodora into euphoria mode
Is that allowed or do I hand myself into the pleb polizia?
>>60891850
in random order, then come back to me to discuss their order
This album is ok to like but please don't act like it's a revival of jazz or that it's better than any other jazz releases this year thx
>>60891820
>the list goes on meme
wow
>>60893430
I FINALLY UNDERSTAND THIS MEME, HOLY SHIT
>>60891749
As someone who cares little for contemporary jazz, I feel like posers who want to seem like they know jazz, latch on to the hatememe for this album, coz its popular despite being derivative or whatever. Meanwhile every one of their AOTY is some hipster garbage with no new sounds. There are literally dozens of albums worth discussion over this, why not talk about them?
>>60893587
the "dozens of albums" you're talking about didn't got the honors of being reviewed by pitchfork or Fantano tho, so they're not really "worth discussion"
>>60893662
>honors of being reviewed by pitchfork or Fantano
>>60893662
>honors of being reviewed by pitchfork or Fantano
This desu, I've only been a bit into jazz for the past 2 years but this album is overrated as fuck.. It isnt bad, but.it isnt absolutely amazing either.
>>60891820
>vijay
>wollny
actually good taste
I've listened to Jazz my whole life, heard countless records both of Jazz this year (Family First, Bullhorn, BadplusRedman, Snakeoil etc.) and beyond, and I can still recognize that this is a good record. It's essentially the Sunbather of Jazz, in that's actually a good record on its own but such a perversion of the culture because of the Brainfeeder plebs that "patricians" write it off as drivel. If your head wasn't up your ass you probably be able to admit the fact that the record stands solid due to the fact that the tunes are good and flow decently. It's not the expansion or revival of Jazz, but I really don't know anybody who's even stated that. Everybody I know who's heard this record outside of /mu/ are contemporary Jazz fans so I don't really see the argument.
>>60893825
It's the highest rated jazz album on rym, surely you don't believe it's the jazz AOTY, much less even top ten or so?
>>60893825
>I've listened to Jazz my whole life
I was listening to jazz before I was even born (intra ombilical turntable injections with all of my father's collection blasting jazz 27/4 since the very moment my mother got pregnant), so step away, pleb
>>60891749
But all of those things are actually true.
>pic related
Sarah Manning - Harmonious Creature
my jazz aoty 2014
>>60893957
dam senpai forgot my pic
>>60893975
holy shit did 4chan just autocorrect my senpai to senpai
>>60893984
fuuuuuuuck 4chan's autocorrecting the word "F A M" to senpai right now
>>60893993
>>60893984
whatever you say senpai ;)
>>60893984
>>60893993
you're doing it wrong, ғaм
>>60894002
haha i've been on this board for 5 years and I'm high as fuck this is awesome.
Anyways check out Sarah Manning if you're into jazz that's more compositional
>>60893993
baka desu senpai
>>60893867
I mean, i'm not sure yet. Of course there are filler tracks on here, but Claire du Lune? Re Run? Askim? They're all so good. I think this record is patient, but also filled with melody and emotional impact. You eard a better Jazz record this year with better melodies/feels? I'd like to know. The Epic isn't about a show of skill, moreso emotion. I guess if you're too caught up in the meme you can't feel it, but there are moments where I've felt more emotions than any other Jazz record this year.
>>60893421
Is that Shannon Noll
>>60891749
>implying i don't listen to jazz
miles davis and coltrane reissues, the list could go on and on...
>>60891749
If you don't think this is jazz AOTY you're pleb
>>60894457
I'll have you know I listened to Kind of Blue once in high school and the Epic is the greatest jazz album of the next 50 years
>>60893975
I like how the tracks are so short, yet doesn't feel incomplete.
>>60894474
No, this is
It's funny how this sperg always ends up talking so much about The Epic, giving it lot of exposure despite hating it - same applies to all the pokemon card traders who suddenly became authorities on the genre the moment the album came out.
>>60891820
Mockroot was just pseudo Djent. Luys i Luso was good though.
>>60894577
It was gimmicky but cool
>>60894584
His best work is Shadow theater by far. Just enough mockroot not to be obnoxious.
>>60894577
Lol definitely, I have to be in a really specific frame of mind to listen to it otherwise the fusion/djent shit annoys me but it's still a super impressive album
Maybe I just have a fetish for a bass player, drummer and piano player all hitting accents in a phrase or ensemble hits
I think a lot of jazz listeners are looking down their noses at this album because for them "real jazz" is in the bebop tradition whereas Kamasi Washington's music is more in the afro-american tradition of music as a communal experience.
The music and the whole West Coast Get Down collective has a very tribal feel to it and a lot in common in spirit to black music of the early 70's like Funkadelic and Sly and the Family Stone.
It's pretty disheartening to see actually that many jazz listeners are so close-minded about music.
>>60894836
Most of the complaints I've seen are about it being derivative of Pharoah or the Coltranes, but I understand your point
>>60893867
that's because rym is filled with retards
>>60891845
>commercial publication
who cares?
>>60894836
We look down on it because the musicians are amateur and the music is derivative
here's a Jazz starter pack you bunch of plebs
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/boldfaure/jazz_albums_better_than_the_epic/
>>60891749
Oh, fuck off. It's a solid album and one of the best jazz releases of the past few years.
>>60896440
>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/boldfaure/jazz_albums_better_than_the_epic/
I've already listened to Break Stuff and My Favorite Things, neither are anywhere near as good.
I'll give Well, I Should Have a listen today, but you should give The Epic a second chance sometime. It's genuinely the most ambitious album of the year regardless of genre.
>>60896540
In length absolutely.
In style or execution no.
>>60896540
>genuinely the most ambitious album of the year
What are you even basing this on though? I keep seeing people say this everywhere but they never give any reasons or point to any specific melodic lines, solos or instrumentation
>>60891820
all tight as fuck
>>60896639
Thanks senpai. It's a pretty biased list (I'm a jazz drummer first and pianist second so that's what I gravitate to) but I think it covers a decent amount of styles
>>60891749
Hi boldfaure
>jazz
What's your opinion on nu-jazz, OP?
>>60891749
this album is basic like To pimp a butterfly
>>60896630
because hurr durr it's 3 hours long
>all these "modern jazz experts" who didn't post in last week's 2015 themed blindfold thread
>>60896430
Bird Calls was fantastic
I'd love to watch anyone who thinks Kamasi Washington is an "incredible sax player" listen to Rudresh absolutely destroy all over that album
>>60897017
>if you don't post in our stupid general then you're not allowed to listen to that music
