What is the best record label?
Mille Plateaux
Mello Music Group
underground resistance
>>60841902
UR, Trax, DJ international, LIES, the list goes on...
im really partial to K just based on their cool history and having that unique sound
Moving Shadow
>>60841847
that one
sacred bones putting out a lot of solid releases this year
obvi
>>60841847
this one
>>60841999
nice trips and agreed
>>60842030
Yeah gotta love the guys that fired red house painters and recently goaded pixies into releasing a piece of orange shit. Seriously who cares about any 4AD band anymore.
>>60841847
Yes, it is. Ninja Tune is up there but Warp beats all.
Blue Note is probably one of them
>>60842122
Scott Walker is on 4AD though
Warp has released like 2 good things in 5 years
>>60842143
>>60842162
4AD dank as well.
Stones Throw, hands down
Topshelf, although not so much this year outside of Pretend
southern lord
touch & go
rustie - green language
shigga please
Kranky
Orchid Tapes
Captured Tracks
Humam Sounds Records
Domino
Poncho Records
2015
Dark Descent
>>60841847
warp are kind of a shit label imo
the only reason they're regarded so highly is because of their output in the 90s; everything since has largely been mediocre and forgettable.
Warp and triangle
>>60841861
>>60841902
>>60842448
These.
>>60842162
I'm glad Blue Note still puts out quality shit.
Best of all time or best still operating? My vote goes to Mego / Editions Mego.
>>60843665
Love eMego
Profound Lore
profound lore & flenser
tennis champ - wisdom teeth ep (2015)
>>60844547
>buy F# A# in their webstore because it was cheap
>record arrives
>comes with a handwritten letter thanking me for the purchase
Would buy again
>great customer service
>top-tier legacy catalog
>made some clutch signings in the last few years
>airheads in every mail order
This year?
Probably hotline or Don't be afraid
right now?
it's PAN
Favourites currently would have to be
Raster-Noton
Miasmah
Room40 &
Semantica Records
I'll digest with great joy basically anything these groups release.
A couple of labels currently on my radar who are on a roll so to speak are Infrastructure New York and The Death of Rave
>>60841847
>>60841861
>>60842162
>>60842143
>>60842361
>>60842448
>>60842742
>>60844497
>>60844547
>>60848159
these +
>rough trade
>anticon
>erstwhile
>no Erased Tapes
Rough Trade too
Tzadik > Cuneiform > Warp > Raster Noton > Mille Plateaux
>>60841902
what is this?, every time i look at their website there's no information just some 2cool for you manifesto bullshit
>>60849788
2cool for you? what do you mean
Touch and go, sst, merge
>>60849866
describing your label as a movement for instance. Making the biggest message on your about page 'don't send us demos,'
Soul Jazz
Light in the Attic
>>60842030
Probably this for new artists.
>>60842732
Hardly Art > Sub Pop
can someone tell me why 90 percent of these labels have butt awful websites?
literally why
>>60843533
flying lotus, hudson mohawke and rustie lad
HYPERDUB
Rather partial to Side One Dummy.
>>60850560
lmao
What are the best labels in the New England area?
>>60843533
Ghostbox, Kranky, PAN, Magazine
>>60851001
forgot
>>60843533
agreed
they totally deserved to be loved just with their 90- early 2000's catalogue though
Either Sacred Bones Records or The Flenser
Kek
>Owsla
>>60851001
PAN sucks
>>60851234
depends if you are talking about their early stuff or all that grime bullshit. I also can't get into it
>>60849788
I don't know maybe try discogs? Come on lad.
>>60851656
i just find if hard to take labels seriously when they can't have a decent website and shit. If you have to create artificial barriers to entry your music probably isn't great.
>>60851708
Except they're one of the most influential labels in dance music and have put out a shit ton of seminal records.
yikesing at all these white indie labels
>>60851767
>have put out a shit ton of seminal records
they haven't even got a large catalog, I'm sure very little of it is seminal. The biggest name here is Jeff Mills and he's had more important records on different labels.
I think you are just enamored by their coolness and overrating this.
Let's put a little variety in here.
>>60842742
This obviously. Too Pure is also pretty good. Warp is woefully overrated.
>>60851828
what about robert hood and gerald donald you melon
Constellation
Kranky
Touch and Go
K Records
Rephlex
Merge
>>60851828
yeah, no.
it's true that they don't have a large catalogue and they're certainly not as influential or innovative now as they once were, but pretty much everything they released up until 2003 is untouchable.
orange milk desu la
>>60851288
Mostly about early stuff. I like grime shit, but Visionist album was pretty disappointing
>>60851953
what about them?
>>60852018
so in a thread about the best labels, they are here because of what they did 20 years ago, and their tiny catalog is somehow better or comparable to other labels whose history contains far more good music?
They are just cool, that's it. They had some good music but they are no where near 'the best' of anything
Further Records is the best atm. Best of all time is too hard to say.
>>60852105
>so in a thread about the best labels, they are here because of what they did 20 years ago
Warp's in the OP, m8.
>>60841847
Creation
>>60852136
Warp has OPN, Battles, and the big four IDM guys are still releasing records on there, and one of those is still on the cutting edge (it's Autechre)
does elephant six fit
>>60852182
>OPN, Battles
>and the big four IDM guys a decade after they've lost relevancy
Yes, and?
>>60852105
>so in a thread about the best labels, they are here because of what they did 20 years ago, and their tiny catalog is somehow better or comparable to other labels whose history contains far more good music?
yes, that's how great those records were. there influence is far-reaching still today - not just in terms of techno, but in the entire ethos of underground dance music itself. those "outsider labels" that are currently very popular? they owe a lot to ur.
PC Music
Secret Songs
Activia Benz
Hyperboloid
STYLSS
Moving Castle
Dream Catalogue
Teklife
Brainfeeder (those DJ paypal and iglooghost releases tho)
but Soulection is prolly the best imo
>>60852247
and what does Underground Resistance have?
>>60852284
>those "outsider labels" that are currently very popular? they owe a lot to ur.
not really. there have always been labels that try to stay underground to be cool, it's always been bullshit too
>>60852182
warp is pretty shitty these days
Third Worlds
>>60852313
>and what does Underground Resistance have?
The Underground Resistance collective, pioneers of techno music.
>>60852319
not compared to Underground Resistance
duh guys cmon
>>60852366
UR were like 3rd wave techno
still good mind you, but not pioneers
>>60852370
especially compared to Underground Resistance
>>60852366
so what? that's one thing that is not relevant at all today. and like >>60852426 says, not pioneers
>>60852428
please what the fuck is this hipster contrarian bullshit? get real
>>60841847
==== DEFINITIVE ORDER ====
1. Warp
2. Sub Pop
3. 4AD
4. Ninja Tune
5. Future Classic
6. Brainfeeder
7. XL
8. Wedidit
9. PC Music
10. Hyperdub
... (Large gap here)...
11. Soulection
12. OWSLA
13. the Majors
>>60852465
>techno
>not relevant at all today
i'm done
>>60852366
pioneers yes... warp were pioneers too... but they died in the early 00s as well... neither label is at all relevant currently.
PAN is probably the most exciting label in electronic music currently but the label is pretty much dead. collectives of musicians like susan balmar's psalmus diursae are much more interesting.
>>60852477
>2. Sub Pop
no they suck
>>60852485
How are they more relevant than all the IDM people on warp? Those guys pioneered all the digital music stuff that actually is relevant today.
>>60852313
no, i meant in terms of dance music where the underground ideology holds much bigger weight and is essential to it's history (meant to say "outsider house" - forgot a word). it all had to do with the climate of detroit at the time and the fact that much of america had little regard for the issues and marginalization of the people there and it manifested itself in their music and the entire underground techno scene in general. not trying to sound patronizing when I say this but you should read up on them - they were hardy edgy to be edgy. "universal techno" is a great documentary.
and i never said they've gone totally bad. they can still put out solid releases, just maybe not as mindblowing. mad mike is still doing god's work. but as some point, even the most crucial record labels start to stagnate and lose relevancy (as seen in most of the choice selected, not just mine).
>>60852426
they certainly had a harder and distinct style.
>>60852561
the IDM people watered-down the various underground music to make it appealing for "intellectual" minds quite actually
read a history book ffs
>>60852607
>the various underground music to make it appealing for "intellectual" minds quite actually
>quite actually
suicide for ffs
>>60852607
the term idm was coined by americans who assumed that was the case
but really idm was made by a bunch of reprobate brit kids sitting around on acid
>>60852607
>>60852561
>the IDM people watered-down the various underground music
wow you were right- idm is the most relevant after all
>>60842448
southern lord yes
>>60851093
>>60852607
blame that on the journos, no the musicians themselves.
>>60852644
i quite like first wave IDM actually - it's a fantastic british take on detroit techno that's on par with the og detroit techno the artists took their inspiration from
the moment IDM ditched all that in favor of woody woodpecker jungle music is when things went downhill
>>60852512
The most relevant labels atm are PAN, LIES and PC Music.
Rephlex and Planet Mu.
Blood and Biscuits has some good bands
>>60852668
how can you actually look at something like ae of AFX and think that they are doing a watered down version of what UR people did? If anything their music is not only more relevant, but less accessible with all the glichy polyrhythmic noises and shit as opposed to just regular computer instrumentation.
you ask those old sckool techno guys what they are trying to do, and they would tell you they are basically just trying to get people to dance. You ask ae what they do and they tell you they are just exploring sounds and space discovering new things.
>>60852802
there's a reason why "the simpler song is harder to write" is a cliche
Autechre were going before UR anyway
pointless argument desu
>>60852878
ae were influenced by cybotron and the other electro guys which made up UR famalam
>>60852905
yeah granted and they always quoted Juan as an influence
but this idea that they sanitised UR is just way off
Vanity Records
¥EN Records
>>60852905
yeah, and Jimi Hendrix liked Muddy Waters, doesn't mean Muddy Waters was a bigger innovator
>>60852802
RDJ's drill and bass stuff is a chimpified version of what people like 4hero were doing years before him.
>>60853125
Drukqs is literally glitchier jungle as well
>>60853125
>>60853162
it's also better produced and actually has memorable harmonic/melodic content
>>60853244
who you referring bout senpaitachi
i like not not fun
>>60853298
RDJ
>>60853331
>a parody of jungle is better/more memorable than og jungle
k m8
>>60853162
>glitchier
muh s0 r4ndum
>>60853417
it's objectively better produced, that's for sure.
>>60853442
mane half the tracks on that record are sourced from transcodes
look at the spectrums of a what copy yourself if you don't believe me
>>60853486
>half the tracks on that record
on what record?
>>60852289
>PC Music
lmao
>>60853513
drukqs
>>60850530
>Rustie
Boring EDM bullshit
>>60853442
I like RDJ but most of his production is quite questionable, simple because he does not give a fuck.
And you can't discount someone like Steve Gurley who is a fantastic producer.
>>60853577
>most of his production is quite questionable
what does that mean lol
>>60850530 >>60853531
everything Rustie's done sounds like an outtake from Lone's Galaxy Garden
>ctrl+f R&S
>nothing
>>60853486
>>60853577
>half the tracks on that record are sourced from transcodes
that has nothing to do with production, that's mastering. if he wants the to press transcodes to be a dick and not give a fuck or so when they get reissued decades later he can have them sound even better that's his business, but it has fuck all to do with the production
>>60850530
hudson mohawke, rustie, and tnght are the biggest indicators of what a pile of shit current warp is. only artist still making above average work is opn....
>>60853244
Drukqs is so much worse than what Amon Tobin and hell, even Squarepusher were doing at the time, and the avant-garde compositions are kitschy as hell. I fail to see what /mu/ sees in this album.
>>60853727
Aphex isn't even a favorite of mine. I think ae is better. Venetian Snares is better half the time even.
>>60853767
Aphex is a much more prolific dance producer. I don't fuck with his drum fuckery, but the dude makes fantastic and often melodic acid.
Venetian Snares is often too gauche and cheesy for me.
>>60853767
>>60853887
I hate VSnares' material that's walls of walls of tiny glitchy sound bits and zero interesting rhythm/harmony.
You dont even have an idea
Phantasy sound
L.I.E.S
Yumm
Botanical House
>>60852561
>The Album Leaf
>Father John Misty
>Fleet Foxes
>The Shins
>Iron & Wine
>The Postal Service
>Washed Out
>Sonic Youth
>Wolf Parade
>...sub pop is bad
pick 9
