Classical music an overrated genre of music. During it's time it was relevant, but in the modern world with audio recording, sampling and technology, the possibilities of what music can be has widened significantly. I'd argue that bands such as Death Grips and Ash Koosha are more sonically complex than any classical piece written on paper ever could be. If you believe that classical is the pinnacle of music in 2015, you're a child who needs to grow up.
why do i come to this place
>inb4 reactionary faggots burst in
>>60816394
I agree with this post
>>60816394
does anybody ever say that
oh wait this is bait isn't it
>>60816436
Oh wait let me rephrase that:
>inb4 faggots get triggered
>>60816394
there's no point in arguing taste with a lowdown pleb, here's your (you) though
>>60816448
Why would this be bait, OP is unironically correct.
>>60816448
>a lot of people have to say it or else it's bait
>not listening to electroacoustic composition
I'm sure you know jack shit about recording, sampling, and technology if you don't know about "experimental" classical such as Varese, Stockhausen, and Schaeffer.
>>60816535
Nice strawman
>>60816605
Wanna move those goalposts more?
>>60816626
Why are you triggered that you pretend I'm just baiting? Please argue against what I originally posted, I'd love to see you try.
>>60816394
technology can actually makes things worse. if it wasn't, then we'd have nothing be greater and greater masterpieces - more and mor of them - each year. I'm not going to claim I'm listening to all music ever, but that seems to be false. I actually think less and less inspired and original music is being created each year, with a few minor exceptions to the rule.
I'm one of the people that believes presenting people with greater capabilities and a wider range of choices can actually be a hinderance to making highly original art. in the past, people were presented with a lmited range of possibilities that they had to learn how to master; whereas most younger people today didn't know what the limitations of the past few decades were (of course). they wouldn't know how to push the sonic boundaries in creative ways compared with a 60/70 year old experimental musician with even a modest idea, yoked to "what wasn't possible" before but is now, will be much more able to stretch the limits of expectations than someone who's just getting into music.
that's just one of the ways that technological progress may give the gift of greater POTENTIAL across all generations, it doesn't confer the gift of PERSPECTIVE, which makes the former actually possible to take advantage of. maybe if there was some way for young people to catch up on what they don't know they're lacking...
>>60816871
I think that with the new all this new technology and possibility, it's going to take a while before we really start stretching the possibilities of what we have. I do think that lately more artists are using technology in more creative ways than say even 10 years ago. There's also a lot more music being put out too, while most of it is mediocre at best, it does mean that there's more and more experimentation going on at faster rates
>>60816394
>that water feature
muh vlast
>>60816394
>sonically complex
What does this even mean? Do you mean timber?
You'd still be wrong.
>>60817058
I might agree with you, except I feel like we're on a runaway train that's only accelerating.
so even if people are experimenting with the present technology at a furious pace, each year brings more, newer technologies - so why would people learn how to master the one they have, when an even newer toy just came out? this is what I'm dreading: that the treadmill of disposable technologies - discarded almost as soon as they are acquired - so that nothing is kept, learned, or made.
Classical is more sonically complex than DG. Better? Thats up to the listener.
Tech will help us produce and distribute whatever we damn well please without loosing rights to a corporation. Thats the game changer in sound worth money.
Sampling is amazing but without a shoutout to the creator its a little fucked up. Funky drummer or the Amen break for example.
Just make music and listen to what ya like. Theres gona be killer tracks and shitty ones produced with or without us. Youll be suprised of clasical when you find yourself tripin on acid driving your car around with a friend at 6am and you just happen to hear the local college radio station come in between mp3 jump drive 1 and 2.
Just let in whatever hits your soul. Nukka.
>>60817205
Name some of these new technologies
>>60816394
>the possibilities of what music can be has widened significantly.
I wonder what we have to thank for that.
Hint: it's classical.
>>60817233
I don't know, really, the fact people can have a production studio on their laptop is pretty sweet - an important step.
my point is what I don't want is people getting hung up on technology - like OP's post implies (that it is - or will - make "better" music). I just don't buy it. I don't see it happening. the most complex technology in the music I listen to uses drum machines in real-time with other instruments (Miles Davis on Dark Magus), or electric organs. that's my taste.
>>60817261
>classical
hmm I wonder what we have to thank for classical? Hint: it's cavemen chanting and banging on things
>>60817347
false equivalency. the dropping of the theoretical barrier between music and non-music was undertaken in Western musical tradition by people working in the Western classical tradition - French musique concrete artists, tape music artists in various centers in Germany, Poland, the US, and more, and most importantly, John Cage. the poster is not stating that classical music preceded contemporary sampling and must have "something" to do with it. he is pointing out the direct causal relationship. you are not. stop being an idiot.
Tech is tech. If you got something in your studio and it works 4 u why change? If you can get the music out of your head with an acustic xyz then use it. Why try to strangle the track with a learning curve because you think it'll be better?. Let the sound be what it is.
Yeah, sometimes you can utilize tech to your advantage but you cant hide behind it. Learn it and nail it. Maybe if and when you get bored of it and need something new....go shoping.
Use everything you can to get the sound to come through you. Not all pc/mac programs are the same....not all drum kits are the same either.
I dont have a drum kit so yeah, im using a machine to do that but im making sure the drum samples are solid (real) ones. I got more analog synthesizers i can shake a stick at so they'll alwyas be there(and thats just another sample) into the computer. Yeah, sure, you got the space, money and time dedicated to making music why not use an analog 36 channel mixer to get the most out of the waveform. And...continue.
LOL Yup
>>60817153
this. composition is important, not just "weird" beats. and if you don't think classical isn't superior texturally, you probably haven't listened to any classical music written since the 60s
>>60816486
Said the transexual cowboy
>>60817827
>>60817842
Is classical pro-weeb because i hate weeaboos so fucking much i'm just gonna side with the other guys
>>60817827
Meow Plato.
Its still good and bad.
And shit....really when you think about it...id pull my fuckin hair out if i had to listen to the same thing over and over no matter what it was.
Music is like Bitches.
U get it.
Eat your heart out Plato.