What is the Ulysses of albums? By that I mean
>influential
>avant garde/modernist
>hard to get into, but rewarding
justin bieber, he's saving pop dont u kno
Trout Mask Replica for sure
>>60749102
Kid A
Classical Music in general. It is just a much different vibe than most popular shit. I find it hard to calm down and listen to it, but when I do it is just so beautiful. Just perfection.
>>60749102
Imo, Electric ladyland but thats from my narrow 18 year old perspective
>>60749102
>of albums
Albums are a commercial product, they can be influential, they can have some aspect of avant garde/modernism to it, but not at the same time.
>>60749146
i guess what they say about vegetables and classical music is right haha
If we're talking non-classical type music, then either VU&N or Trout Mask Replica.
>>60749156
Underage b&
ITAOTS desu
>>60749164
hmm?
>>60749102
Honestly I don't think there is any counterpart.
>>60749267
There probably is if you count old art music. Modernism in literature was accompanied by modernism in music as well. I dunno what in art music was closest to that stream-of-consciousness stuff though. Maybe Richard Strauss character-focused expressionist work Elektra?
>>60749164
what is that thing that they say about vegetables and classical music anon?
>>60749228
>>60749449
They both go in the trash :^)
>>60749455
man that's just mean, stop being a jerk
>>60749515
your posts are so fucking tacky lmao
>just perfection
get a grip
>>60749102
probably some kind of freaky free jazz
something alternately spazzy and soothing
>>60749523
hey pal... SMELL THIS
*shoves armpit in your face*
>>60749523
worry about you, and i'll worry about me man, you can block me if it's unbearable to you as well instead of complaining.
>>60749102
You're looking for Tim Buckley. You're probably 15 though so you shouldn't really be here lol
>>60749539
pls go tripfag youre the cancer of /mu/. reddit supports your need for affection better than 4chan. you're the reason /mu/ is a dyslexic circlejerk where you're either shitposting memes or being an autist over k-pop/noise/shoegaze etc. see you people in another year or something lmao
>>60749563
i have no clue who you are and what your purpose is, you're wasting your time hombre, i don't look at posts on 4chan and take it to heart, keep trying though?
>>60749535
*teleports behind you*
>>60749590
*waggles tail in arousing manner*
>pretending books are relevant in 2016
What is the The Magic Mountain of music?
>>60749674
>being an uncultured swine
I don't know how you live with yourself
>>60749146
Classical music is stuff like Dante, the Three Musketeers, other classics. James Joyce is not in that same boat at all. He might be comparable to some contemporary modern classical, like Strauss, Holst or maybe Wagner - although those are more epic and less experimental and intellectual. I don't know a lot about modernism in music though - there's probably a better example than those.
But you're basically an idiot who seems like you know nothing about classical music (which is a wide as fuck umbrella term) nor James Joyce.
>>60749133
>hard to get into
I guess, Arcade Fire tried something like that with Reflektor, but they failed in my eyes.
Faust - s/t
>>60750170
but seriously books were only around because there was nothing better to do.
>>60750262
Liaterature is probably the most nourishing form of entertainment. Your brain has been diluted to simplicity by other toxic forms
>>60750262
you keep going like this and i will report you for underage posting
>>60750307
this. books are the best way to make yourself smarter. its like push ups for the brain.
>>60750259
whose been influenced by faust?
I mean i'd like to know if anyone else actually sounds like that first album.
itt: people who haven't read joyce. like someone else said, trout mask replica is really the closest analogy, although that would fit a bit more with finnegan's wake probably.
>>60749674
>>60750262
end your life
tyranny
>>60749102
>>60751569
>finnegan's
swing and a miss.
for rock music, it would probably be TMR
there might be some avant-garde Jazz records that fit better but I don't know enough about that to give a proper answer
Trout Mask Replica
i think it's most like Gangly Tooth John the Mortician - Eating Shit. that's just me tho
>>60749102
It does not exist unless you count "The Dark Side of the Moon" but I think the later is too easy listening to be compared to Ulysses
Serious cringe in this thread.
The correct answer is either Astral Weeks or >>60749563,
Mutant
>>60749102
more like pretentious, hard to get into and not rewarding at all other than having a feeling of false superiority.
ulysses is just as bad as everything proust ever wrote and it's trash, even though a product of an insane talent.
>>60754439
Ulysses is the kind of crap only mega talented people can write. It's like the highest form of crap.
It's honestly this in terms of ambition, structure, and overall quality. Prove me wrong
>>60749102
Charles Ives second piano concerto or violin sonatas or symphonies
Trout Mask Replica is the only correct choice
>>60749146
See point two of OP's thread
Also, classical music is not hard to get into (unless you mean contemporary classical).
Classical music isn't even album based.
Do you know how to read?
>>60749126
Not influential
>>60754922
Doesn't fit point one nor two from OP's thread.
>>60755322
i am illiterate, you got me
it's trout mask you fucking retards. close this shit thread
>>60755322
But OP's description of Ulysses is flawed so I disregarded it
>>60755375
It's alright then. But I still disagree with your album choice (when compared to TMR).
>>60755345
It's okay. We all make mistakes.
>>60755390
Not sold on the TMR comparison. Also how many people making that comparison have actually read Ulysses? I imagine most are just aware of it contextually and just default to the avant-garde/TMR thing. Ulysses has a really strong and idiosyncratic sense of place that TMR lacks, it would have to be a more atmospheric album for me. I'd be tempted to say Tago Mago is pretty close
>>60755450
Yes, Tago Mago could make some sense, but it's not as "disjointed" as the book appears (I have to admit I have never read the whole book though, just a few excerpts).
The lyrics from both the album and the book are also more fitting than when compared to Tago Mago, imo.
>>60755537
Yeah I guess the lyrical side of things is pretty important, and I see how TMR plays into that.
One that just came to me that I think fits the bill is Uncle Meat
Disregarding OP's description for a second. Good Morning, Good Night reminded me of it in how they are ostensibly the story of a single ordinary day by ultra-modern means. The scope of banality.
But otherwise, TMR is an obvious choice.
no question, although it is pretty easy to get into
pompous faggots having a pissing contest on a shit thread, nice job.
>>60755684
>Pompous
Just because you're too inhibited to read a book without losing concentration after 5 mins, doesn't mean you have to take it out on everyone else pal
>>60755731
how do you know that professor?
>>60749563
>You're probably 15
I'm 31, not really sure how you got it that wrong
>>60756018
What? Because else would you be getting pissy? Have you read it?
>>60756429
>31
>browsing /mu/
>>60749157
>Books are not themselves unit-ized, durable-goods commercial products being collections of information stored in a physical medium, sold by professional publishers with the typical, but not necessary simultaneous hope of turning a profit and publishing quality content with good sales
>Books and music albums are so fundamentally different that you never ever see a store selling both. That would be like looking for a produce section at an auto parts store---
>Little bespoke-tier independent record labels that buck the above expectation do not exist. That only happens with books---
nth-ing Trout Mask Replica while we're at it, to be honest family
>>60749102
why do you ask /mu/ when you know you're just going to get memed?
