Is this accurate?
>>60742028
I don't think so. No amounts of erudite music post 1950 can outweigh the music that truly represents the second half of the 20th century, that being the experimental post-punk, fluxus, free jazz, etc.
Shostakovich did his best work towards the early century as much as Stravinsky or Schoenberg.
My take on it.
>>60742121
>fluxus
what the fuck is that
>>60742556
in music it's basically John Cage + Yoko Ono
Although Scaruffi also completely missed minimalism + ambient music
>all that entry level jazz, classical, and rock
>>60742630
Pleb
>>60742630
cool posturing, you must have really good taste
>>60742674
i do, anco, sufjan stevens, drake bell, pharmakon the list goes on
>>60742630
>entry level = bad
there's a reason your favourite shitty indie pop albums have remained obscure
>firetruck-core
>avant-teen core
>ok
>avant-teen core
>avant-teen core
>avant-teen core
>mallgoth memerock
>avant-teen core
>ok
>ok
>memerock
>avant-teen core
>mallgoth memerock
>avant-teen core
>ok
>avant-teen core
>avant-teen core
s m h t b h f a m
>>60742816
but animal collective aren't obscure
>>60742938
they're also more entry-level than anything on that list
>>60743002
>entry level = bad
there's a reason your favourite shitty indie pop albums have remained obscure
>>60742836
Has anyone over 20 ever used the term "avant-teen" or is it exclusively a way some teens try to feel better than other teens by claiming those other teens are falsely trying to seem better than them?
For the most part, grownups don't dismiss major works of art because their realm of experience extends to outside this little circle-jerk board and they have some idea of context.
>>60743309
>Has anyone over 20 ever used the term "avant-teen"
Yeah.
>>60742607
Except for Terry Riley, Steve Reich, Klaus Schulze, Steve Roach, Jon Hassell, and Meredith Monk.
>>60742028
>>60742028
That one by Shostakovich is nothing special, so I don't get that.
>>60742836
Brilliant post! No doubt a fiery objection to Scaruffi's writings on all those albums.
>>60742630
Well obviously. He said most SIGNIFICANT. It's not going to be your piece of shit arthouse post-grassbop-funkwave that 6 people bought in '57.
>>60744148
>avant-teen trash
>significant
>>60744188
>avant-teen trash
>actual criticism
>>60743339
So basically retards then?
>>60744267
pick 2
>>60744267
>the legitimacy of criticism is gauged by the subject, not the content of the criticism.
>the value of music is gauged by whether you have encountered an annoying teen who claims to like it.
I don't give half a shit about scruffy, but this is some dumb shit right here.