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Didn't see one in the catalog.
Tell me what's up in your production aspect of music. I just bought a mixer, hoping it will allow me to multitrack through usb. The guy at guitar center said that this would do the trick. If he lied, I'll return it.
Will someone tell me what I should do for plan b if this falls through?
Pic related is a Yamaha MG16XU
>>60735557
How are the compressors on that? I was thinking of coping one, but I've been torn between that and some old 70s mixer with a spring reverb. Also I don't think it does multitracks, just stereo.
This may sound really dumb but what's a simple set up for playing live?
I make electronic music on ableton but thinking of the possibility of playing those songs live.
Would just a lap top plugged into a PA system be ok as a rough/simple way of doing it?
>>60735557
hey op sorry but i dont know much at all about usb stuff sorry :/
should i have another synth if im currently using a tr-8 and a tb-3? i want to be able to make full length songs, not to post on bandcamp or some shit but just to be able to make songs a=on all hardware. thanks
>>60735629
yeah laptop would be fine, people do that a lot
>>60735600
That's what I hear, and if it does only do stereo, I will be so sad. I'd go with a 70's mixer just because nostalgia. You can compress on whatever DAW you use.
Hey i was wondering if anyone could give me feedback on how to be less shit at /prod/
https://clyp.it/xerei3xb
Why does my CPU usage suddenly jumps from 20% to 100%?
Is there a way to manipulate an a single sample in fl studio without manipulating them all? Like if I want to reverse or stretch something without changing the rest of the samples
>>60736020
make 2 of them in the sequencer and just duplicate the pattern and change one of them and use it when you need that one sample changed
>>60736045
Thanks, it's seems a bit messy compared to ableton, having to duplicate all the time, but it'll work
>>60736045
this but you have to choose the "make unique" option for the duplicated sample
>>60735961
>He has 32 porn tabs open while producing.
Seriously though, depends on your machine's specs and what you're doing. Do you have a lot of crazy real time effects and such going as well?
>>60735557
>multitrack through usb
that's not what an analog mixer is for anon.
it will only send the main out via USB, not each track individually. You'll still have to record one track at a time if you want to do the mixdown on a computer.
Tho with the right outboard effects you could just do the mixdown on on the analog mixer, then just hand off the main out recording to your mastering engineer (skipping the need for a soffware DAW)
>>60735629
how do you plan on switching songs? Just let the crowd sit there while the next project loads?
it's best to make stems of your sub mix for each song. this is also much easier if you use the same sub mix for every song already. (i do Kick, other drums, Bass, Rhythm, Leads, Vocals, Background sounds)
Then just take all of those stems and bring them back into a new ableton project.
then make clip loops for each part of each stem.
Then you can just trigger part independently and play all of your tracks on the fly.
>>60736790
>Just let the crowd sit there while the next project loads?
it's called stage banter... or just putting everything in one project file
>>60735665
Wanna post something? I also wanna get into hardware and I'd like to hear what two synths gets you.
No pressure, though.
>>60736790
>how do you plan on switching songs? Just let the crowd sit there while the next project loads?
this is what i do, when a tracks ending i'll loop something on my synth and do some pedal effects while i load up the next actual track. takes some time getting the loop to kinda fit with the previous/next track but once you figure out what sounds right for the particular songs its easy.
I've noticed a few plugins with similar functionalities to dblue_glitch, but are any of them easier on the CPU? Because my PC generally handles what I throw at it, but Glitch absolutely kills it.
More of a curiosity desu, I'm pretty sure Gross Beat is what I need.
>>60737917
i never really compared the cpu load between the 2 but effectrix is like dblue
>>60735557
What is this thing for ?
How do you use it ? I'm lost how would anyone need something like this ?
How long do you need to learn to master this thing ? Years ?
So many buttons how do you know what you are doing when mixing ?
Why buying this thing and not other machineries ? Is this a necessity to produce music ?
>>60737972
it's a mixer. pic related is a simplified version. OPs pic just has more channels.
you basically can input different audio into it and the mixer will put it all together in one track to be sent to an amplifier.
so you could, say, hook up a drum machine to one channel, a guitar to another, and a synth to a third. you can control different things on each channel depending on the mixer (frequencies, cutoff, volume, etc).
it's very simple to use but takes time to understand what makes a good mix.
it's pretty much a requirement for preforming in a live setting.
>>60737583
>putting everything in one project file
this is exactly what i suggested, but with stems of all of your tracks.
>>60737770
i can't imagine this sounding good between every track? clyp.it of examples?
>>60738080
im not at home right now but it's just a little droning ambient piece in between each track. no longer than 30 seconds long, but if a project takes a bit to load or i'm feeling creative i can do some improvisation stuff.
>>60737972
>What is this thing for ?
it's a mixer, it's for recording multiple instruments at once
>How do you use it ? I'm lost how would anyone need something like this ?
plug in instruments, plug effects units into aux sends if you have them (some mixers also have built in effects), use effects/volume control/panning controls/eq on the mixer to make each instrument sound right, record output
pretty simple stuff
>How long do you need to learn to master this thing ? Years ?
>So many buttons how do you know what you are doing when mixing ?
i remember feeling this way, they're a lot easier than they look. each row of buttons/knobs corresponds to an input and the functionality of any given button/knob is pretty straightforward
>Why buying this thing and not other machineries ? Is this a necessity to produce music ?
it's not necessary but it helps for the situations described above
>>60737972
>So many buttons how do you know what you are doing when mixing
all channel strips are essentially the same from mixer to mixer.
Volume, Gain, Pan, EQ, Sends. If you know how to use one channel strip, you will be able to use any channel strip.
>>60735888
Sounds like something that would be in an indie videogame (like FTL). It's pleasant enough, but boring and doesn't feel as if it's going anywhere. The drums sound good, the horns are a good idea but sound very canned, but the synths are bland and lack "personality". Personally, as a first step I would toss a low-pass filter on them and give it a more "chillwave" feel.
i recently obtained a synton fenix and i have no idea how to actually play it since it is all patch cables and such. What does a sequencer look like that I would need to use this, thanks.
Are there any really good resources online for learning to become really good at EQ, mixing, mastering, etc.? I'm listening to a lot of the stuff I've made, and it sounds so muddy. Other stuff I listen to has so much breathing room.
>>60735888
The high end is severely lacking, boost the highs on your main synth or pad, they sound very dead right now. The high hat could use some more variation too, if you add some velocity changes and increase the activity in some parts it could really drive the piece. You could also play with panning a bit more, some subtle automation curves or really short stereo delays.
>>60740057
Pensado's Place on Youtube
how do you transition from a bedroom producer/arranger to a keyboardist/on-stage performer?
>>60740057
don't use too much reverb
open your parametric EQ and look at it.
when you add an instrument, allocate a certain space to it on the parametric EQ
naturally when you add too many instruments the space on the parametric EQ will fill up
>>60740581
>when you add an instrument, allocate a certain space to it on the parametric EQ
>naturally when you add too many instruments the space on the parametric EQ will fill up
this is really vague advice that i feel is more hurtful than helpful to people trying to learn when you don't also mention that aside from high/low passing and the odd resonant spike you basically never eliminate frequencies. most things are in most of the spectrum most of the time, it's more about balancing them out with the right boosts/cuts
i think the best way to go about learning to eq is to get whatever listening device you're most familiar with the sound of (for me it was my 5 year old $60 headphones, i have monitors and better headphones but i've just listened to so many more hours of music through the cheap phones that they gave me a better sense of perspective when i didnt know shit about eqing) and just play around with dragging bands around the frequency spectrum on various tracks so you start to get an idea of how that sounds in the mix. another helpful thing was to throw an eq on the master and drag a band up and down the spectrum to see what is fighting where
>>60740581
>allocate a certain space to it on the parametric EQ
So you're saying only a small area of EQ can be taken up by an instrument? So if I had vocals, guitar, and drums, you would advice that only one have lows, only one have mids, and only one have highs? Maybe I'm not understanding you correctly
>>60740701
>you would advice that only one have lows, only one have mids, and only one have highs?
that's the simplest way of putting it, but work your way up from there.
you can have one instrument occupying both lows and highs, or even all three, but look at the visuals and listen to it if it's what you want to do.
>>60740817
for example, don't shy away from doing something like this.
i'm looking into getting a tascam portastudio to play around with. anyone here have experience with one?
i'm also kinda looking into getting a decent mixer with 4 channels but i don't know of any good ones or what to look for.
sorry if this post is kinda useless, i'm mostly lurking this thread
>>60740817
>that's the simplest way of putting it
but it's simplified to the point of not really being accurate
when are you guys totally cutting the mids out of anything?
>>60740882
don't buy a behringer, the price will tempt you but the noisy garbageness will disappoint you
>>60740932
I do that sometimes, for sub-bass
>>60740542
learn how to play the keyboard, and join a band
>>60735557
Yeah, that mixer can only record the stereo bus.
There's a few USB mixers that can multitrack, check out Mackie or Allen and Heath.
Alternatively, you could buy a AI and route from the mixer to your AI for multitrack recording but that might be more hassle than it's worth, considering you could just use the AI by itself.
>>60740882
good luck finding a tascam portastudio
I'm assuming you're looking for a 4 track tape recorder for tape loop experimentation
I live in germany and literally noone here sells these things
>>60740882
go yamaha
This is probably a /g/ question... but can anyone recommend some cheap, decent studio monitors? Just got into this production thing and got a midi keyboard, but all i have speaker wise is my headset. Anything good that wont run upwards of $300?
>>60742506
JBL LSR 305 is what you want.
>>60735557
Too poor to afford samples of real instruments so I started making noises from my farts.
Anyone else ever just make loops to play back on repeat whilst browsing 4chan? I've had this 11 second loop on repeat for about 15 mins now
name your favorite weird guitar pedal
i use weird effects on my synth and currently have a red panta particle delay and a polara reverb. i'm thinking a boss acoustic simulator would make for a strange sound when you're running a synth through it. any ideas?
>>60742520
Thanks anon, I've been trying to do research into this shit but I don't know much about audio quality, I'll definitley have these be my #1 choice
>>60735961
take it out of battery saving mode senpai
>>60742631
Same guy here.
I personally bought the Tannoy 402 for my first setup and spent more money on a Midi controller which was a big mistake. The Tannoy 402's are good for their price but they really are for beginners.
Anyways, wherever you go people will tell you to get the JBL LSR 305 in that price range. Like really, everyone.
what do you do when you're feeling burned out and lacking inspiration or creativity
>tfw playing the same 4 chords over for half an hour
>>60742794
I have jbl 2328p from before the 305/308s came out and I really recommend jbl for monitors
ive never used any of their other products though
>>60743542
Open a new blank project and fuck around, but that's how my songs are started anyway, I hardly go into the DAW with the intent of making or starting a song (unless I have an idea I want to write down), if I"m lucky , I'll have a few sounds to build a track around, from just fucking about with synths and effects and generally doing whatever I need to , to get something pretty laid down.
I don't know if this is related to /prod/.
How do you enter a label? Are you required to play live? Because most producers that I've seen on labels always do live shows and stuff.
I'm not planning on entering a label, but I'm asking this question so I have future references and just in case if I change my name.
how do i make this not sound like shit?
https://clyp.it/jz32gqzi
>>60744904
Change the instruments and give it more variety.
>>60735557
Nigga, usb mixers that can multitrack are just getting out there. I'm currently using a Allen & Heath Qu16, and it costs a hefty $2k, but it does the job I need it to for multichannel performances.
>>60739339
It's broken, just send it to me
>>60742606
Earthquaker devices Sea Machine, it's like a chorus that got seasick. Interesting thoughts on the boss acoustic simulator, might just make it sound brighter.
>>60744967
change them to what?
>more variation
but that's haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard
Anyone got a Tascam?
Thinking of picking one up before xmas
>>60742588
i could never do that, hearing something i made loop to many times just kills it for me
Don't wanna start a piano thread and I barely use the rest of /mu/ anyway.
Any advice on developing velocity control on piano? I've been practicing with a metronome, paying attention to my note starts and ends and its slowly paying off. But my velocities are still random even if I play slow. Even if I just try to repeat eight notes at a consistent volume, I get quite a bit of variation.
What do? Any particularly good exercises? And is it better to try and practice playing very evenly or very expressively?
https://clyp.it/w53uynvu
any feedback /mu/ ?
>>60746302
practice switching between legato and staccato, like when you're doing scales, go up one way, and come back down the other
also, are you playing a real acoustic piano, or are you playing a midi controller or digital piano of some sort?
So I installed Fl Studio. Now how do I become a hack like avinci
>>60746353
Axiom49 midi controller.
Maybe not the best keyboard out there.
>>60746438
get a digital piano with realistic keys
it will cost more but its really worth it if you want to play piano realistically
midi controllers don't have as stiff keys usually
>>60746438
Yeah, if you want exact dynamic levels, in this situation I would recommend editing them after you have already punched them in. Most midi keyboards don't have very good velocity curves.
>>60742606
If you want weird effects the Line 6 pod hd and Boss GT series have lots of crazy shit. Oddly no one seems to really delve into it. If you put a synth through it you can do completely retarded stuff.
How advanced can you get with FL Studios 12? Is there a point where you would want to invest in another DAW perhaps?
>>60737583
He has a point and I wondered about this too
>>60736790
Thanks mate
>>60747780
it's mainly a matter of workflow preference
>>60748086
I'm just starting out (been two weeks now), and I've mainly been working on tempo/building basic drum patterns and messing around with samples on an akai mpd26. It's been really fun learning all this stuff, but it's fucking frustrating at the same time. I've rage quit from FL a couple times already.
>>60744624
Anyone?
>>60748135
It's not really hard, keep messing with it and look it up if you don't know how to do something.
>>60748168
entering a label is like entering a girl, you have to be confident and talk to them
Still working on the drums, a few tracks are placeholders. r8
https://clyp.it/wjout3nc
>>60748135
the beginning is the hardest part
in a month or two youll probably laugh about how simple what you rage quit over is
it just is a lot of shit to take in at once
does anyone have any tips on achieving overall loudness with mixes
I produce like bedroom indie rock stuff with standard band (drums bass guitar) plus some synths, and I find it difficult to get the mix sounding loud at the end
at the moment my workflow is to mix the multitrack so there's about -3dB of headroom then bounce that to waveburner (where the rest of the album is) and apply a blanket master with a multipressor, eq, and limiter. The limiter helps but sometimes it can squash it too much and the bass will distort the high end.
any tips on limiting/mastering?
using logic pro and waveburner btw
is there a way to multitrack a synth that has no sequencer? i mean without a computer. just a simple machine that plays back stuff
>>60749778
maybe try having less headroom before you fuck with your mastering
I have had people tell me -3db is too low and to have it peaking close to 0 as possible
I am not sure other than what others have siad
>>60749853
interesting. this might actually work considering the peak I'm working with is almost always the transients of the snare drum, which really isn't indicative of how consistently loud the rest of the mix is
I want to produce bedroom pop, so I have a few questions
1- How do I record my electric guitar/bass? I've heard about using direct line but when I tried it sounded really bad, so I guess I could record it like acoustic, which brings me to my second point
2- What's a good microphone to get? I'm thinking of something that costs a bit less than a hundred bucks, mostly to record vocals, but if there's no feasible (cheap) way to record guitar then for that too.
Thanks in advance!
>>60749947
Get an SM57, it'll be more than enough.
>>60749778
use your eq before your multi band compressor.
>>60742534
why don't you make friends with musicians and ask them to play stuff for you
What is your guy's opinion on audio interfaces? Are they redundant or essential for guitar recording these days?
>>60745034
can you record from the computer to tape then record that directly back into your DAW
>>60751542
sorry
>>60745034
meant for
>>60745074
What are the best orchestra and string VSTs for Logic (mac)?
I want to sound like Illenium, and I'm pretty damn new to this. Where do I start?
ref: https://soundcloud.com/edm/illenium-said-the-sky-falling-in-ft-mimi-page-edmcom-exclusive
>>60752715
The basics? Maybe?
Posted it in another thread, but I'll throw it here too.
How easy is step-sequencing in Ableton?
I've been using FL Studio and REAPER for the better part of the last decade, but I had a brain hemorrhage a few months ago and found out last week I've lost all knowledge on how to work in either of them.
I like FL, but I think my newest duo project will be performing live a bit. Wondering if I should relearn using Ableton instead. Thoughts?
It's a shit situation, can't even get simple ideas out without it taking forever, but yeah. Wondering if I should take it as an opportunity.
>>60753281
The FL workflow always worked really well for me. Main thing drawing me to Ableton is I imagine it'd be more flexible live.
I pretty much have to learn from scratch again. I was in FL this morning and realised I couldn't even remember how to automate parameter changes. It's doing my head in.
How do I make dubstep
Is there like an actual chat for producing like discord that we can all use and talk on
does anyone here make DIY acapellas?
can u help me out?
https://clyp.it/cicb2epp
feedback please
hey guys, i got hired to make music for a retro 8bit kind of game, and i thought i could make it similar to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-baHj9N6dM
which synths could i use?
>>60753863
Cool track man, what VSTs do you use for the string ensemble/orchestral stuff?
>>60753900
its a sample and thanks lad
>>60753906
Sampled from where senpai?
>>60753917
a game OST, title is a hint
>>60753887
A square wave.
>>60753887
not to offend you senpai but it's pretty silly you're taking gigs if you don't have a good idea of what you're supposed to do
put some time into studying shit or you're going to ruin your reputation right off the bat
>>60754066
i can handle this, nigga
>>60753985
yup, i think i've found the ideal vst, i'm gonna download some drum samples
move from DAW -> hardware and going to move back to software again but with a new approach and was wondering if you guys could recommend me software (ideally standalone) for really diving in and editing the minutiae of waveforms. like really shape & reshape them from scratch. sorry its such a vague/dumb question but i dont even know the name of what i'd be looking for here.
>>60754241
I dont think you will find a DAW that has those functions right off the bat but heres a vst.
https://www.xferrecords.com/products/serum
me again >>60753712
i'm trying to make an acapella of stash pot by koopsta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtEQUAAitng
the snares are still coming through, its annoying as fuck honestly
>>60754409
something about putting the instrumental over the full track and then doing some weird wizardry shit.
>>60748168
You should have a few great tracks and regularly play and have net followers
>>60754512
yeah lol u need an instrumental for that
i'm using a vst called voicetrap and a ton of eqs
>>60735600
The comps are shit. I use this board for live sound and they're whatever.
https://clyp.it/heuzjoyi
what genre would you even call this? any feedback?
>>60746308
your synths seem a bit dry and stale, I would add a lot more reverb and delays
>>60753863
pretty cool, needs some hi hats to drive it forward IMO
>>60741089
This makes sense when you're dealing with ultra simple, "pure" electronic sounds like sub, which is essentially a sine wave hitting one note at a time. But for more complex elements like voice, you don't want to completely obliterate areas of frequency if you're going for natural sounding (this excludes cutting unnecessary lows +/- 100 Hz).
How important is it to use one of those physical drum computers?
I see most professionals using them, but don't really see the point except for improv live maybe (there are other ways to do the same trick). What's their use?
I just design drumtracks tone for tone with samples.
>>60755244
Not at all important. MPCs are pretty old school nowadays. You can do the same thing, and more, with software and a controller. But old habits die hard, and MPC's aren't leaving anytime soon.
>>60751445
Why they be redundant? If you have a DAW/computer setup then they're essential if you want to record your guitar. If you're full anolog mode then yeah it'd probably be redundant.
>>60742534
That's pretty extreme, but also very artistic.
>>60756087
How minimalist can you be though? I've been out of the guitar recording world for 6 years now and was wanting to get back into it. I used to use a zoom h4 to USB into my DAW which was mediocre but at least it had preamps.
I'm assuming there's an easier way which doesn't necessitate the purchase of a full blown audio interface. Are these things any good? <<<
>>60756384
>How minimalist can you be though?
That's honestly a really a good question, that I'm honestly not sure about. I think the most minimalist you can get is direct injection with some sort of Guitar effect pedal type or guitar midi effect VST (if that's possible).
>>60756384
I was playing along with a recording of myself playing drums and bass guitar last night, through my little fender amp. Playing lead guitar over what i had previously recorded. To me this is minimal as fuck, considering i have almost a whole band coming through my fender amp, and i could make it even bigger using a bigger amp or an actual PA. regardless, here's how i do it:
m-audio fast track, this thing is minimal as fuck, it has one mic in and one 1/4". Along with FL studio to sequence drums/ other guitar recordings. You can also record guitar with the fast track using either the 1/4" directly into computer, or using the mic in to record your amp. Idk how much more minimal you want, but I consider this the very very very least i need to record / play at a good volume. I haven't messed with anything else really though.
>>60753938
dunno what game is it?
>>60757012
Different dude, but he said title was a hint. So either something involving shadow the hedgehog or Shadow of the Collosus would be my gueses.
>>60756665
>m-audio fast track
Damn just checked this thing out and it's only like $65. Thanks brah
>>60757227
get a used one for $20 mang
Anyone got any good resources for learning Piano? Videos, pdfs, anything like that?
>>60757794
a teacher
>>60757803
As obvious as that would be, nah senpai, not trying to spend money.
can orchestral libraries truly sound like this?
https://soundcloud.com/alexpfeffer/gravity
i don't get how he's able to do this with just a decatree and two patches. what am i doing wrong?
>>60757819
I also just wanted to go the self taught route, but if that's not a viable option then I'll hold off and wait for a bit of money for actual lessons I guess.
what's a good library for orchestral percussion? i cringe using drumkits.
https://clyp.it/zs55sypx
stuck
>>60758049
Self teaching is a very viable option considering you just need to learn how to play properly and probably some scales (youtube this stuff) and the rest is up to you man. practice makes perfect
>>60758042
Use expression
>>60758301
East west orchestral libraries or Vienna Symphonic Library both have great orchestral percussion. Stormdrum is excellent and has a great range of kits.
I've been trying out the "Toccata" Organ library. Pretty decent. nice variety of stops.
https://clyp.it/21y42w35
>>60758042
Thats not even particularly great, just some mid tier string libraries. I've heard even better quality strings. VSL is some of the best.
>>60754801
thanks I don't think I even put any effects on anything
I like your clyp it is better than mine imo
I would call this like downtempo maybe
how long you do this for
Just started double tracking my midi drums with different kits.. Huge improvement in quality. For once I feel lucky in using midi drums because I could never sync up that well playing it live.
>>60759082
Thanks mane, I'm gonna look into a few piano beginner books and maybe a few song books to get started as well.
https://clyp.it/updlujkb
tried to pretend I was modeselektor
>>60759424
thanks! i've been at it for about a month and a half now, still trying to learn bitwig.
throwing some reverb on your snare and synths will make a huge difference. panning stuff left/right or stereo imagers to widen the sound can be helpful as well.
Cubase 8.5 is out
tfw no shekels
>>60754066
You don't just turn down money anon, you have to be the guy that either nods his head and makes it work or nods his head and secretly gets a friend to make it work.
>>60760649
Yeah, until your friend is too busy or gets tired of doing revisions for the client and shit isn't ready.
>>60760671
It's chiptune dude, you don't exactly need to learn circuitbending or learn how to use a tracker.
>>60759870
Go for rutracker.
Also is there x64 for cubase 5.1? Cuz my fucking home recording teacher only want works on 5.1 cuz his pc dont have any other program. But i cant get any sound from cubase 5.1 cuz "your sound driver doesnt support" error.
>>60760716
Easy to do != easy to do well.
>>60760739
I use Cubase 8 and don't know about 5 really
>>60760739
in Cubase you need to set up your soundcard though
you go on the top menu bar and select devices and from that drop down menu at the bottom it says device set up and you see this and configure it form here
>>60740968
Not him but I have one of the cheaper ones and I don't have that noise everyone talk about
>>60743542
Work on drum kits and synth sounds
>>60761726
hmm, interesting
which model?
>>60759671
this is great dude. a fat lead over top around 2:30 would be awesome imo, just let it scream
>>60744624
In this day and age, it depends. There are netlabels now that don't even have physical media available and work with so many artists from different places it's impossible to play. Then you have tape labels that kinda work like the netlabels but they usually have cassettes, merch, or some sort of physical release, then you have the indie labels that will put out a vinyl and put up the stuff online, then you have the corporate juggernaut that will put you shit on cd and spotify. This is all just a basic outline of stuff but it's close to how it works. Usually you get approached by label A and Rs who will groom you/ put you on flow and if you get the plays they want they will scoop you up. A lot of this comes from you putting you music in the face of every label over and over until they like you. If it's a lower level label or a local thing I'm sure if you just email them you can figure something out
Is the only way to get into chopped up/skippy synths (Oneohtrix Point Never style) to record them, turn the Midi track into audio, and then basically chop them up and sample them?
Or are there any VSTs or anything out there that can make this process quicker?
>>60740882
>>60745074
I have a 414 I managed to get off craigslist for fairly cheap, but it seems like online you might have a hard time finding a fully-functional one.
It's kind of fickle, doesn't have the digital readout. Tends to get noisy when I bounce tracks.
>>60749853
>>60749882
I've been told by multiple mastering engineers to have at least -6db and to give yourself PLENTY of headroom, which makes sense because if you have it peaking at 0db pre-master then you don't really have much room to work with before it clips.
>>60762665
that's complete nonsense
>>60749947
Do you have an interface? DI is questionable - at least try and get an amp/cab simulator. Google them, there's heaps.
>>60762665
I don't know about that kind of shit desu that's just what other people had told me
>>60762665
what do you mean by 6db? like not cutting below or above that amount with your EQ?
https://clyp.it/lukvhaok
>>60762707
Is it?
Explain to me why. I'm not saying that there's only one way to do things but it makes a lot of sense to me. You can always make something louder, and if your intent is to make your song as loud as possible whilst still retaining some dynamic range then I'd rather be working with something that isn't already pushed as far as it can go without clipping.
>>60762462
Gates/LFOs working as gates?
>>60762834
Leaving headroom in the digital domain is completely useless, all you're doing with leaving 6dB is wasting a whole bit of your 24 and therefore reducing snr
>>60762833
no, setting your master volume to -6. The idea is that it gives your track head room in case you unintentionally clip a bit.
>>60762962
i usually keep my master at 0 then up the gain on my tracks and use a limiter to prevent clipping. is that bad?
I'm trying to get into production so I need some newbie advice. What's the best version of FL Studio to torrent? I've seen some different ones on kickass but I'm unsure on what I'm downloading.
test
>>60762962
setting your master a certain level and reading the same thing on the meter would be a pure coincidence, what's the use of that? Just set it so that it doesn't clip throughout the track
>>60763026
If you want to do external mastering it is bad
If it's the final sound you want it is fine
>>60763049
>What's the best version of FL Studio to torrent?
probably the latest one
>>60763049
just use the demo to see if yo like it
the demo is unlimited time you just cant reopen a project I think
>>60763059
even if you have a limiter on, it can still creep past a bit, especially with saturation. Haven't you ever run into that with outboard effects?
>>60763159
Every recent daw's metering detects isp by oversampling, if it clips it clips and if not it's fine
>>60759407
how long have you been doing orchestral stuff? I'm looking to learn a lot of music theory behind fugue and so forth but my knowledge of articulation ends at staccato and legato to say the least. are there any resources for this? my mixing and theory seem to be doodoo.
https://clyp.it/42rya23s
Rate my setup.
>>60763382
cool b8 man
>>60763382
m40x are better compared to the m50x imo
I need a fucking chair
honestly
what do you rec?
>>60763557
Steelcase please
What's a nice affordable digital/midi/whatever mixer I can hook up to my DAW?
>>60763749
well do you want multichannel recording (separate tracks onto the PC) or just to record the stereo from the mixer?
>>60735557
Is there a difference between a mixer like this and an interface like the Focusrite 18i20? I know the yamaha has 16 tracks and the 18i20 has 8, but is there a quality difference about the two?
>>60763786
I just want something that will affect the mixer in my DAW, but I can use phsyically, I hate using a mouse for adjustments. I've used an anlog mixer for a few years and I feel much more precise and nimble using my fingers to adjust knobs instead of clicking and dragging, etc. -but I want to do it for the electronic music I make in Ableton
>>60763820
korg nanocontrols are like 30 bucks used and do exactly that
>>60763845
thanku friend
>>60763557
I use a 3 legged stool, it's great, it doesn't let me doze off or fuck around, I either have be producing or listening to my mix while in it, if I want to just listen to my music, or other peoples music, I sit on my comfy couch
>>60762003
>>60754605
A note I should make is that I have no skills for DJing and I don't even know how to function one.
I'm thinking of buying a midi pad, any tips on what I should get? Budget is 150 euros, but I'd like to get the cheapest one I could possibly get that's still good.
>>60763382
I have MPK mini as well it's not bad, the headphones are alright too, but why did you include those shit laptop speakers and your graphics card or whatever the fuck that is?
>>60764484
It's sound card
I'm on a mac and run Live 9. How do I do Tobacco vocoder?
you don't need to know shit about mastering and sound design to be a good artist.
yall are fuckin autistic.
any reccs for sample packs of vst's for warm, full sounding piano? I wanna play some simple melodies and fuck w/ them in my sampler to make some ambient in the vein of Oneohtrix Point Never's song Replica, but I don't have access to an actual piano like he does
>>60765067
Most artists I love have a great command of sound design, it may not be the reason that they're great song writers, but it certainly is an asset. who likes to listen to pop songs and EDM songs with boring preset sounds?
>>60765279
Don't feed the trolls.
>>60765067
yea but the thing is a lot of people are starting to do everything themselves
imo its best to atleast get someone else to master your music
I like sound design though
>>60749947
Go full kult like me and record black metal mixtapes from your webcam
AYYY
https://clyp.it/nwsau4wf
>>60754801
Downtempo
I don't like the sound of your claps/snares however what you do with it is good
Nice overall
>>60753985
http://www.williamkage.com/snes_soundfonts/
>>60749663
Nice
Especially the synths going in around 1 minute
I don't like the mid-transition
>>60763382
this is depressingly still better than my setup
>tfw NEET shut-in
>>60765633
>>60754801 here, thanks for the feedback. i think your drums could have a bit more of a groove to them, for how natural the kit sounds it is just a little too clean and accurate
that bass is awesome though!
>>60765521
Post the links nigga
I'm really into old electronic music, like 60s and some 70s stuff. Are there any hardsynths up to maybe 500€ worth looking into? I dunno if I necessarily need a real analogue synth.
>>60763557
I got mine 10 years ago so I'm not really with the chair scene right now desu, but I would spare no expense. Fucking best part of my setup right there. I'd rather have a garbage PC than a garbage chair.
>>60765948
Thanks anon
I'm thinking getting into DJing and doing live shows. Obviously, it'll be a long way down the road since I'm just starting now. What equipment should I start with?
>>60766362
Here you go https://clyp.it/cpg3omg5
I decided to go full lo-fi as i couldn't get a good recording quality
Plus the noise and the effects cover my sloppy playing
Being varg or fenriz for four hours is prety fun
Also i've no idea why the clyp has 3 minutes of silence
>>60766595
It was ok, some weird transition, I liked the synth in the background.
>>60763557
Any Herman miller
>>60766732
Thanks anon
I'll post in here if do more kvlt recordings
What are some good vsts to pirate? I have absynth and massive, but I'm having trouble finding some other ones in 32 bit.
OP, I have the same problem. Bought the ProFX12 thinking I could multitrack. Now I'm stuck recording stereo mixes and always disappointed that I can't go back in and change things.
What's the best solution for electronic music. Techno, house, /bleep/ style stuff. Do people really just record as stereo? In the old days, did people making this stuff have multitrack recorders or did they just have to get good enough at mixing it to get it right in one take?
I'm trying to figure if I should keep doing it this way and just be better at getting the recording down right, or if I should just switch to a interface and mix in Ableton. And on that point, why can't I get just like an interface with 8 or more line inputs? All the affordable interfaces have like 4 line, and then some mic and digital inputs that I don't need. My MPC has 8 outputs by itself although I'd be happy with just a few of them.. not to mention all the other hardware I'd like to use. I'm not supposed to use line signals into a mic input, am I? It just seems really nice if I could jam while recording each piece separately.
>>60757155
>not Shadow Man: 2econd Coming
Does anyone know any VSTS similar to Microtonic?
https://clyp.it/s1f3451r
threw this song together, tell me what you think.
I'm 18 and I plan on writing music for a career
>>60767468
oh and btw it sounds better the louder you play it
>>60767468
>https://clyp.it/s1f3451r
How do you get into that line of work?
>>60735665
It really depends on what kind of music you want to make. Obviously a monophonic synth limits you in some ways but that limitation could be a good thing
>>60767542
Write as much music as possible and get the right networks of people to hear it
>>60767468
>https://clyp.it/s1f3451r
Not much to say - it's just a two chord loop over a pretty static beat with some LFO tweaks.
>>60766506
>>60763557
you guys have fucked up backs/necks too or you just like nice chairs?
>>60767669
funny you say that. I also thought it sounded it had some LFO play but I actually didn't do any. Just how the kick and bassline lines up i think
>>60766765
is there any herman miller that doesn't cost a shitload?
Does anyone have experience with a really good portable recorder? I was looking at the Sony PCM-D100, is there any better sounding one? Are there any others that have better features?
>>60767468
>https://clyp.it/s1f3451r
Not bad I can vibe to that. Better get on top of that networking though.
>>60763351
Well I've been absorbing orchestral music my whole life, I tried to transcribe Bach's art of fugue by ear around age 15. Didn't get very far, but have always been interested in the form
I studied music at university, where I learned most of what I know about writing classical music. Would strongly recommend if you're serious about writing good music. You just can't learn as much as fast as you do at university / college. Also a great way to meet performers and like-minded composers.
Once you can read sheet music you can go to sites like imslp.org and go through the scores of the masters, see how they orchestrate or how they write in a specific form.
I learned most of what I know about fugue from looking at Bach scores. This site also helped:
https://www.teoria.com/en/articles/kdf/
>>60767468
>I'm 18 and I plan on writing music for a career
Have fun with your music degree!
>>60768619
I'm not even out of high school and probably about 2 months ago was the point I started to really start to be serious with my music
>>60768693
I'm not going to college nerd
Thoughts on these two, started both of them the other day. I'm still pretty new to this and could use the criticism.
1:
https://clyp.it/v3lwsol5
2:
https://clyp.it/uajaqojz
2 without the violin:
https://clyp.it/ausdih3d
>>60768891
its so worth it imo to even just take a community class youll get better
>>60768891
Writing music for a career is hard even with a degree. What exactly do you plan on writing for? you can probably get away with chiptune or basic video game scores without a degree, but you need to be able to market yourself, and essentially be more of an entrepreneur than a composer. Most top tier game scores are done on full orchestra these days anyway, so if you dont know how to write a score for a real performer you'll be lacking the necessary skills.
For most composing jobs you need a good reputation and good contacts. You need to know people in the film industry, or in the TV industry. Having a degree shows you're actually dedicated and serious about it. You can fake it till you make it, but its much easier to learn the basics properly. Just raises the quality of your music and helps you think more critically about how and why you write.
https://soundcloud.com/dirigible-2/missing-rain-wip
First thing I've made that really resembles a song, cc and comments are appreciated. It's almost done, I just need to adjust some things with the mastering, but I can't really tell what. I'm thinking about adding in another lead a la tipper's mellower stuff, and maybe a rain track. thoughts?
Probably stupid, but what are the RCA ports that say "Effect 1" "Effect 2" "Effect 3" and "Auxilary 1" "Auxilary 2"
It's on a Sansui WS-X1, pic related. The thing has an Effect send/return that's standard 1/4" so I'm just wondering - what's typically used as RCA? Or would I just get an RCA > 1/4" cable and just use my racks with that?
>>60769221
Who is this coming from? Also why are you assuming I don't know the 'basics'? Why do I need college to learn them 'properly'?
>>60770132
the thing is nobody will hire you without a degree even in music if youre doing something professional
if youre trying to just be a musician and be famous is unlikely imo you will make it that way with music
that is all about opportunity and who you know
>>60770163
I appreciate advice, but I would rather it be on my music. Your discouraging words don't really mean anything to me
>>60770491
that's just how it is man
youre the one getting mad and acting shitty to other people
>>60770491
I also think your clyp is not good but I didn't want to tell you at first
Just wanted to give a shoutout to the Blue Yeti Stereo Mic, I don't even have to mic drums anymore because it sounds SO FUCKING GOOD
>>60770573
>but I didn't want to tell you at first
why?
that's the advice i asked for
>>60769072
i might do that. money is a problem though
>>60770716
not him, but too much panning
>>60770859
you think so? I experimented with it a little, but it's hard to judge because my speakers are at my feet and right next to eachother. Have to wait for my next paycheck to fix that. thanks man i'll revisit that
https://clyp.it/sd3gcetb
is this good?
>>60770893
>my speakers are at my feet and right next to eachother
holy shit lrn2speakerplacement
>>60771098
>https://clyp.it/sd3gcetb
it's pretty good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5g_gs6nnyo
Can someone here who uses ableton help me?
I want to record my digital piano via line, so i plugged it into my interfaces input and can now hear it in ableton, however the signal is mono, and i want to spread it to stereo. I did this before and i remember ableton doing that automatically, however i now have the problem that the signal is really quiet on one speaker (channel) and louder on the other
What do?
>>60758458
Try changing the vocals up a bit after a while. Great beat tho senpai
>>60769038
2: It goes from really calm to extremely loud and wild, before going calm again. Try to find a better mix of the two.
I'm using a 24bit/48khz DAC and a very clean dedicated headphone amp. I just got myself a pair of Sennheiser HD280 'professional's. This is my first time having something resembling clean, accurate audio. What would you recommend I listen to as an example of something well produced and not overly compressed?
>>60767260
A mixer is exactly that, you can plug your instruments into it and effects into the aux then send it to your computer. To do it individually you can get a audio interface with lots of inputs and bypass the mixer and do that in your daw or send each indervidual channel from your mixer to indervidual channels on your audio interface. Problem is I have a focusrite 18i20 and same as you my sampler has 8 outputs so putting those all straight into my interface leaves no free analog channels free. If you have a mixer then you can send your 8 sample outputs from your sampler to your mixer if it has more than 8 inputs mix in your mixer and then send them to your audio interface which will only take up 2 channels leaving 6 or 8 free. Probably idea for drum tracks. Or you could solo each channel and record indervidualy into your daw so you have each channel on a seperate channel in your daw...or buy something like another interface so you have 16 analog channels.
>>60770132
Its more that a formal education helps you learn a lot more and a lot faster than you would on your own. Plus its fun. have a good time, get laid, learn about the thing you're passionate about, meet like-minded people. The knowledge is very very useful for making music, but it can also be a hell of a fun ride.
I have like 90% of my degree, not quite finished but not too worried, I learned what I set out to learn: write for orchestra, write in the old styles and new styles, learn to think critically about my own work, how to write idiomatically for real peformers, etc. I still dont make a living off music, but thats more of a marketing fail than a musical one. I'm able to do film jobs for about $100/min of finished music with the setup I have. One minute of music takes about 3 - 4 hours each - thinking, sketching, writing, editing, mixing etc. Sometimes less if there's a tight deadline, but quality will suffer. Thing i these jobs are few and far between, I still have a day job to pay the bills, buy food/weed/miniature biplanes etc.
Its perfectly fine to just cruise along and write music without worrying about a degree, no point forcing yourself. I was writing music for about 10 years before I decided I wanted to get serious and go to university.
Hey /prod/, could someone possibly outline the major workflow differences in Ableton and FL for me?
I posted earlier in the thread >>60753281 and >>60753475 but long story short.
>Hit by car
>Have brain hemorrhage
>Forget how to use DAW
I've been back in REAPER and FL a bit recently, but I've been wondering if I should take the opportunity (hah) to learn Ableton instead?
I really like the way FL handles sequencing and how I can easily make up a beat and layer it all up. However, the duo I'm in at the moment will be performing live and I've been wondering if Ableton would facilitate that a lot easier?
I also imagine Ableton handles real instruments a lot better than FL does.
Sorry that this is such an open ended question, if there's any specific questions that you want to ask me to help narrow it down, I'm more than happy to answer anything.
Thanks.
>>60735557
>xenyx802 or 802usb?
is the pc interface worth a shit?
>>60770893
i listened to it with headphones, and i felt like the bass i think? maybe im wrong, it was many hours ago
but i felt most part of the track was jumping side to side
>>60771643
he is obviously a 2spooky4us meme master
