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>>60681119
pastebin
>http://pastebin.com/PhhV6eSx
listening to a Radio Marabu cassette that I got from that huge 30 GB noise archive from last thread.
NBND #7
Anybody here participating in that NBND /mu/ comp?
>>60725493
I have a picture i have from a show i did with wreckage a few weeks ago
>>60725554
I am, i'm just waiting on the dude to get back to my email
>>60725565
nice looking venue
got any footage?
What's stopping me from stealing someone's riff and then putting it in a constant loop and I just reverb the fuck out of it and feed it plugins until it sounds like popcorn in the microwave and then I just record myself screaming and layer it 3 minutes in and finish "my song" and then I photoshop a picture of wooden baby blocks next to a pyramid and slap a name on it like "nutseed library" and then I keep doing this until you faggots find my shit and start eating it up
>>60725593
Actually, its been proven that male born people have a predisposition to liking harsh noise. I'm not saying women can't or don't but they are the biological exception to the rule. My cousin
>>60725593
does it sound good?
>>60725583
Nope, but i have some footage from some minimalist set we did for the san antonio noise fest
>>60725593
nothing, go for it. mite be cool.
>>60725593
if it sounds good, then its good.
if it sounds like shit, then its shit.
if its shit we wont listen to it.
if its good then we will.
is that so hard to comprehend?
>>60725648
let's see/hear it breh
Has anybody listened to Disfigured Robot Child before? I feel as if it's a little TOO underrated.
https://goruo.bandcamp.com/album/pantsu
I really wanna participate in NBND but am lacking some albums. I really enjoy the masochistic nature of Whitehouse's work especially the spoken word tracks like Cut Hands Has The Solution along with any musician or album that just has an interesting back story like John Duncan's Blind Date or any of The Gerogerigegege's work. Any suggestions from /noise/?
>>60725763
>especially the spoken word tracks like Cut Hands Has The Solution
check out the latest stuff from consumer electronics, estuary english, repetition reinforcement, and whatever their very latest release is.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_n-RKQirsA
>>60725896
Wow this is fantastic, I've honestly never really looked into the works of Whitehouse members besides Peter Sotos with all his crazy field recordings and what have you. Thanks!
>>60725741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg4AkI6t7OY&feature=youtu.be
I wish the girl recording this had recorded the first half but still, i'm pretty happy with the set
>>60726160
Just to note, she's really fucking loud, i had my mixer completely maxed out and i could still hear her going over it
>>60726160
are you the one in the robes or the one at the deck?
either way loving those ambient pads and that shouting too
NBND #8
>>60726345
I'm the dude in the back doing all the sounds
>>60726085
that track comes from my EPOTY, repetition reinforcement, it has probably my favorite vocal performance of all of PE.
also if you want noise with an interesting backstory I'd suggest checking out Aube. none of his albums, as far as I'm aware, have all that much of a "backstory" per se but each one is constructed out of a single sound source. I find it really fascinating to think about how much the original sound has changed when listening to his work. I'd suggest Cardiac Strain as a good intro album. afaik it's his most famous and it's got some really intense long builds that were responsible for getting me hooked on his work in the first place. the album is sourced exclusively from recordings of heartbeats.
In a similar vein I'd also suggest Eric Holm - Andoya it's a rhythmic noise album sourced from contact mic recordings of wind whipping over telephone wires outside of a norwegian military listening station on an island in the arctic sea. It does an amazing job of conveying the cold and desolate aesthetic of the place it was sourced from.
Anybody ever listen to Army of Gay Unicorns? It's a bit edgy but not half bad
>>60726386
Damn dude these suggestions are super excellent. It's always intriguing to see how someone can be creative with contact mics. Along with that Aube seems like a crazy dude I should definitely check out more thoroughly during NBND.
>>60726386
cardiac strains is the fucking shit
>>60726496
I did quite a while ago, I remember that they didn't really grab me but it's been so long I don't really remember much else.
>>60726532
>that Aube seems like a crazy dude I should definitely check out more thoroughly during NBND.
he's got a huge discography, for a while he was releasing albums at almost the same pace as merzbow on the same label.
time to crank things up
NBND #9
what are you listening to?
what are you drinking
>picrelated
>yesterday beer
awful
>>60727111
what is the most A e s t h e t i c noise project?
reply to this post with your favorite noise album of all time or your mother will be decapitated in front of you tomorrow
>>60727153
Macronympha - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
>>60727153
it's a tie between wreck and ottoman black
What should be next for my NBND?
Stimbox - Lupus Tuberculoso
Sewer Election - Vidoppna Sar
The Haters - Nikumu 2007
>>60727270
do you want your mother to die infront of you faggot reply to this>>60727153
>>60727248
>>60727265
you are exempt
>>60727270
I'd say Sewer Election, but The Haters works just as well as long as you like methodical, conceptual noise
>>60727280
But,
>>60727248
>>60727270
Were both me!
>>60727285
Sewer Election followed by The Haters it is.
I would do NBND but I tend to be the driver of my friends and shit and I don't think they would want to do that with me. So instead I'll just do A Whole Lot of Noise December
I'm also still pretty new to noise, so does anyone have any recs? I've listened to a lot of the essentials and so far I like Merzbow, Sissy Spacek, and Hanatarash
>>60727416
Whitehouse is a must dude
>>60727416
consumer electronics, wolf eyes, hijokaidan, hototogisu, jaakko vanhala, pedestrian deposit, oscillating innards, puce mary, kevin drumm, spine scavenger, cindytalk, skin graft, mania, grunt
>>60727416
Have any of you ever tried watching silent movies while listening to noise records?
>>60727416
This is a pretty new/obscure one but I've been really loving it lately, check out RM - Opal Encounters, it's like a mix of ambient and power electronics. It's real good.
been looking forward to this one
NBND #10
https://primeeggsamplerecords.bandcamp.com/album/harsh-noided
>>60727869
Never expected to see Swallowing Bile and Crowhurst on the same album
NBND has just begun for me in my time zone. To kick it off, what should be the first thing I listen to?
>>60727958
merzbox
>>60727974
I've been considering listening to the Merzbox... But I don't know, I might want to have some more variety of artists in my NBND, and listening to all of the Merzbox will probably take up at least half the month. So I think I'll save it for another time.
Just had dinner and now I'm having /harsh noise desert/
>>60727153
probably nezumimochi
>>60727416
if you're driving you should be the one putting on the music too
put on some whitehouse and see them wriggle like fucking eels
https://goruo.bandcamp.com/album/true-love
hey /noise/ what are some good effects pedals that i can pair with my bass guitar to play as a lead in a noise rock duo. the more variety of noisy sounds the better. Recs for specific pedals would be great but what sort of effects should i be looking for to get these sounds?
>>60729733
>>60729733
get the matsune miku guitar pedal
https://exitmask.bandcamp.com/releases
Welp, I'm up at 5 am for a military science lab. Wolf eyes - burned mind is making for an excellent first NBND album and for some great pre workout music.
>>60727549
I actually had the privilege of watching a brazilian project, VICTIM!, doing a live soundtrack for begotten a few months ago. It was really good.
>>60730061
I'm actually very curious as to how that sounds.
>>60731429
It's actually pretty okay, especially with distortion, especially if you like to play drones and stuff. There's also a Miku-flavored stylophone thing, which is about the same thing in a smaller package. You might also be able to send shit through it, but I can't recall.
Merry NBND. Here's a new track.
https://soundcloud.com/tttttttttlllllllll/no-thank-you
>>60725493
where can I listen to this ?
>>60732070
There should be a link in the archive, tell me if it's broken and I can reup.
>>60732062
Is that a chainsaw? Love the texture going on, it's reminds me oldskool einsturzende neubauten but harsher and more chaotic. I love that disintegration at about 5:30, tho i think it should end in that moment because it goes on way too long after that.
>>60731429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aveUEZkcQno
>>60725543
>>60726372
seeing these mentioned sorta makes me proud of sharing stuff
>>60732666
ayy lmao
So the whole point of NBND is to listen to at least one new noise release every day, right?
>>60733343
Well I'm actually doing nothing but noise music for the month of December but you do you man. Last year I did one new album a day and listened to other kinds of music.
Didn't we decide last year that it was called Noise & Toys December, or am I remembering wrong? Either way I'm gonna try one new noise album a day. Today I'm finally getting around to listening to Beyond The Valley Of The Tapes.
>>60733727
>Didn't we decide last year that it was called Noise & Toys December
that didn't last
mainly because it's a pretty cringe title
excellent album choice though
>>60733789
On the second disc now, One Eyed Nudist was fantastic as was the rest of the first disc.
https://myneighborsatan.bandcamp.com/
>harsh noise
>>60734348
yup, it's harsh. Also bumping gently
>>60726160
>http://w-r-e-c-k-a-g-e.bandcamp.com/
>Wreckage is the solo project of a 19 year old girl in collaboration with accredited guest artists
>19 year old
lol
>girl
....maybe?
>>60727549
Watched Haxan with various Doom Metal bands playing, fit perfectly
Watched Dementia (1955) with various Lustmord songs playing, fit perfectly.
Haven't attempted a film with noise yet, but I'll most likely try it soon, greatly enjoyed my previous screenings.
>>60734348
Recommending as always. Keep up the good work!
Let's hope this doesn't garner too much animosity, like it did yesterday...
https://soundcloud.com/mephisto_waltz
>>60729158
>nezumimochi
really? i've found merzbow's latest releases very dull, like his recent live shows. it seems like he's diluted his style to an occasionally listenable analog pulse and his merztar noise. there's not many other elements to it. i prefer the chaotic glass shattering metallic explosions of his 90s work or the more experiment laptop era stuff. i felt like he was phoning it in on the latest releases.
>>60732444
No chainsaw, mainly used that shovel to bash things around. I was thinking of ending it there but I had more recordings from that day and didn't want it to fade out. Thanks for the feedback.
>>60736076
i used to not get why a lot of harsh artists moved to more experimental less harsh stuff but after listening and making noise for awhile i am starting to get it. still you just know hes got do a real room clearer in there somewhere he just doesn't want to.
What's the status on this?
https://yadi.sk/d/a2FPHwOZkG8uJ
>>60735245
Ya shes a 19 year old girl
whats wrong about that?
>>60736157
fucking hot, desu I don't know much, cause a guy who makes it doesn't answer
savagehippy.bandcamp.com
>Vancouver, Canada
Check out our latest album "I Don't Know!"
Is there anything similar to The Rita's The Voyage of the Decima MAS? I just love those noisy water sounds...
a dude yesterday asked me to rip and upload this, so here it is!
(2014) World - Discography [FLAC]
>noise, grindcore / bootleg compilation of japanese noise-grind, recordings from 1995-1999 sourced from 7" splits and EPs
http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/vpX36fAZ/file.html
>>60737299
THANKS, I waited.
>>60737327
pleasure, it's just as good as i remembered
the tracks aren't split, but there isn't any tracklisting on the tape at all, so i left it as Side A and Side B, both tagged 'Untitled'
>>60737534
it's truer that way.
Who here #harshnoisevodka?
>>60737654
that pic is cool
>>60737654
not quite but I'm chugging out of an $8 bottle of whiskey before my mandatory spanish tutoring.
keeping it /noise/ related I got this lovely album on atm. I love aube
had to solder a new contact mic, since I turned my first one into dust. Soldering isn't that hard now, and the new mic is better.
played with a metal sheet and a hair drier today and got some pretty convincing results even without amplification.
tried to make a song (i'm building sound for a audio drama I have in mind), but failed. utterly.
listened to some eai, today - "Loose Community." it featured otomo and some other folks. wasn't bad, had it's parts.
haven't listened to any actual noise today, maybe I'll kick in something ambient before calling it a day.
here - http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QL7ZV4SmQA
it's me amplifying a metal sheet, played with drumsticks and a painting knife.
happy noisedays
>>60732062
you have a really great ear for texture and sound in general. I love how the tin remains identifiable on one part, and how it disappears in the mess of metal on the other. Still, as >>60732444 says, there's a certain lack in dynamics (loud/silent, fast/slow, etc) that really makes the track boring for the listener. It's intense in the first minute, but it remains the same after that and the listener becomes to feel at ease with your music, which I think wasn't the goal with this one. Try the use of collage techniques or the exploration of dynamics. As always -
listen to merzbow
>>60730329
I like it! Really subtle and delicate. I love how the elements submerge and raise though each other. The premise is simple, and the effects applied are basic, but the end result is really nice. The mixing/mastering went really well, all the elements are outspoken and dynamics between them are really fluid.
>>60734348
I hope I have the time to listen to your stuff more. I went trough the shorter tracks on "Japanese in a jiffy" and I have to say I envy your sound. You managed to unleash some pretty rad whirlwinds, and there's the classic low burning textures. It's good to hear some of the classic sounds made by someone in a thread.
>>60734348
so, to continue. I really like the sounds and sometimes you manage to make good use of the background, taken there are several years of output. Again, I wonder what you can do with silence, seeing you are so good with being loud.
>>60737797
something you've surely stumbled upon, but here's an interview with him http://www.esophagus.com/htdb/aube/
I've taken an interest in his conceptual frame, and I look forward to listening to some of those water-powered albums.
>>60735586
shit man, you are tight as fuck. listening to voyeur sleuth right now, and that jam packs some punches. Your experience really shines through the track.
>>60737998
thanks man, that was a really good critique. I have been thinking the same thing lately as making more experimental and quieter stuff, i've been listening to stuff like that lately and i've got some ideas now it's just a matter of actually doing it.
>>60737849
>vocaroo
imo way too much highs but it's interesting. Tho I think that you should focus more on rubbing cause punching doesn't work really. I think you should work a bit at your hand technique but that's only my inner-drummer kicking in.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s06lMD4PC0j9
is there more noise/tape loops thats as hypnotic as this?
>>60738228
I zoned out hard to Aaron Dilloway - psychic driving tapes earlier today. I love his style of evolving loops
>>60738088
I tried to use it as a gong, but the reverb I get from that, fades as an effect with the amplification of the track. I settled on rubbing/bowing since it it's easier to produce variety with it and the sound output is more constant. I also made some sticks with jar caps for ends (one on them even supplied with magnets, that magically, don't do jack shit). Anyway, takes for the advice - i'm still experimenting with basic sound output from "found" sources, but thinking of it, since I've found the tin, I should take every chance for improvement.
Your sound is really deep and laidback. I find character in it, which is really good. Still, there's a lot you can find, searching for variety and abrasiveness. Really interested to see more some times.
>>60738316
As that third guy said. The best way to treat metal is to treat it with a shovel.(I like this idea. Few microphones/speakers/doesn't matter and a lot of useless rubbish).
Do you use pure data?
>>60738433
I don't for now. I really enjoy exploring acoustics and I will try to move further into them soon (looking forward to buying a mixer and a microphone).
A friend of mine suggested importing pictures as raw data, but I only get short noise bursts from them, which I can't work with my sound and conceptual frame yet.
Which is not pure data exactly, but is the closest I'll get to digital, anytime soon. I'm thinking of learning to use audiomulch, pd or max soon (which one would you recommend?), but for now I think I'll stay with the tin.
good night, noise
https://youtu.be/lVIXY7W8Xf0
>>60737849
I'm >>60732062 # thanks for this, feedback helps a lot. Changing dynamics has always been a challenge for me, a lot of my tracks are long explorations of one sound, so I'll definitely be working on it when I make my next thing. Still, I like the way this one turned out and had fun making it. I'll be keeping an ear out for dynamic changes when listening.
What are your favorite /noise/ labels?
Only one I can think of is Posh Isolation.
>>60740164
subtext has some great rhythmic noise on it.
>>60727153
>>60727153
>>60740341
>>60740419
>>60740481
black/white-core
https://clyp.it/oyan5ory
too much like whitehouse?
I'm seeing Wolf Eyes tonight. It's my first noise/noise rock show. What to expect? I'm bringing earplugs cuz I probably should.
>>60740641
they probably don't even play loud
>>60740641
>scared of volume
LOOOOOOL
>>60740735
this is an inappropriate response
>>60729733
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/distortion-overdrive-effects-pedals/danelectro-d-3-fab-metal-effect-pedal
http://www.amazon.com/NUX-Guitar-Effect-Modulation-effects/dp/B00CHFMNYC
These plus some delay or looping or both can work out pretty well. I use them for noise and noise rock and psychedelic stuff.
NBND #11
>>60740735
Unpopular opinion here
But earplugs actually make live performances sound better. It's still loud, but you can hear all the dynamic ranges and the clarity of the instruments when you use ear plugs.
Don't get me wrong, volume doesn't affect me at all, but if I wanted to get the fullest out of a show, I'd wear earplugs so I can hear all of the instruments as if it is straight from the mix.
That's why you also see many musicians wearing earpieces.
>>60741624
what instruments this is a noise thread
you guys are my best friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b9YTn8M4fw&spfreload=10
>>60741736
You've been drinking. And we won't judge you like your family does. We love you too.
>>60741929
tricked
>>60737797
I may or may not have yelled out "no" when I found out he died
>>60741929
wtf
>>60741929
Daily reminder that Eddie Vedder is 5'7
>>60741544
40 minutes in and I'm getting the feeling this is one of those tapes Dom cranked out in a weekend to pay the rent
>>60742188
go on bandcamp and listen to stuff on Nahàsh Atrym Productions and find other labels don't listen to prurient
>>60742307
But I want to listen to Prurient, I love quite a few of his albums, you just have to wade through a whole swamp of tripe releases to find them.
I'll add that label to the list, but right now I got >20GB of noise to burn through this month
NBND #12
>>60742500
dl link?
any other archives of links aside from the pastebin? >>60725493
>>60742500
>>60742824
Never mind. Found it on slsk though it's going to be slow as fuck.
>>60743037
worth it
especially for Track 06
What's some summer/heat wave noise?
>>60727153
TEF / Bastard Noise - Astronomical Sound Images
>>60743206
i really like TEF but he's kind of a hassle to google or soulseek, can you recommend other albums by him?
>>60742864
svn-okkult
bleakbliss
sickness-still-abounds
mutant-sounds
public-embarrassment-blues
>>60743280
Sorry. That's the only album with TEF that I have listened to.
I do own a a copy of the CD. I can rip it to 320 using Fre:ac and share it using zippyshare if you want.
>>60743161
lmao are you stupid??? it's winter you loser
hey does anyone remember that guy who was arguing with breakdancing ronald reagen in this thread like a year ago and they kept going back and forth about like SC/BC stuff and then the guy arguing with johnny made like a big reveal that he was noise royalty? who was that guy again?
NBND #13
>>60743392
>svn-okkult
>bleakbliss
>sickness-still-abounds
>mutant-sounds
>public-embarrassment-blues
what are these
>>60744179
dl link? found nothing on slsk or archive
>>60744279
blogspots, sorry. I couldn't post the full links cause 4chan thinks it's spam
>>60744312
http://www.mediafire.com/download/y3wy1nfewi2x859/emptykingdom.rar
thank you drstrangeballs for sharing your archive all those threads ago
>>60744383
>the whole time I'd been searching for unholy ghost
good god i am retarded
thanks man, and drstrangeballs
NBND #14
Is it cheating if I listen to onkyo-kei during NBND?
>>60744862
Nah
>>60744862
Its up to you brah, my NBND is gonna include EAI, field recordings, oldschool industrial, noise rock, and rhythmic noise. mostly because I want to use this as an opportunity to explore the diversity of this vein of music.
NBND #15
>>60745247
that reminds me. this is one of the cooler small charts that /noise/ has produced.
>>60745399
very nice
need to check out that xenakis release sometime
>>60743597
I'm just going to share it.
T.E.F./Bastard Noise - Astronomical Sound Images
>space noise
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/vlWM6ws2/file.html
>>60745500
thanks
>>60745399
another one for that list if it's ever expanded
bop
>>60727153
pretty much these
Random but anyone know the name of a drone-y screamo (pardon the term) noise -ish band/project that is just one long word about dead flowers or something. I remember someone was saying they met the description of that "Ethereal Synthesizer Screamo" banner way back in the day. Anyone know who I'm talking about? lol
>>60747585
I Am a Lake of Burning Orchids?
>>60747614
YES thank you.
NBND comp guy here. Been away from my computer for the past couple of days, and I'm waiting on my shit Australian internet speed to upload the rest of the submissions I got recently.
Gotta write a little bio for a few more artists, but after that it should be ready for download. I made a bandcamp too, so once they're all available for download via the URL I've provided below, I'll add it all to BC and add some album art. Nothing too edgy or /mu/ related, as it seems like a fairly mixed bunch of noise to me. Bits of ambient type things, digi-noise and more traditional feedback based stuff seems to be the most common in this bunch.
https://yadi.sk/d/a2FPHwOZkG8uJ
>>60747824
you're doing god's work, anon
dunno how you'd feel about future compilations, but i'd sure like to help contributing/organizing/etc
https://clyp.it/ne14xzvc
i <3 u
>>60737299
Hey, speaking of Ormolycka, I have some of the noisier releases on tape if anyone is interested in rips. The following are actual noise
Bromp Treb – Dubs Absoludicrous
Mutwawa – s/t
P.I.G.S. – Libido
Though I can also do Modern Witch, Copout, Schlag-Schlag, Rubbed Raw, Forgotten Pathways, Agents of Satan, Dead Gakkahs and ∞Pushups, as well.
>>60747824
Hey just asking but did you get that wreckage song i sent you after the OC email?
>>60749487
Yep, that went to my other email, so it's among the last I'm uploading today.
V/A - Nothing But Noise December 2015 Compilation
>Noise of all sorts of textures, tones and timbres. Rhythmic Noise, Harsh Noise Wall, Power Electronics, Improv and more!
https://yadi.sk/d/a2FPHwOZkG8uJ
Features tracks from the following artists
Anon
Asbestos Lead Asbestos
Black Cat
Dennis Hopper
Disfigured Robot Child
Dogs in Reverse
Erotic Failure
Fleance
Industrial Hydrophobia
Matibi
Posies
R
Savage Hippy
Strangler Fig
Tulpa
Wreckage
Download above, or wait for a Bandcamp page hopefully within a week. Tracks there will be leveled and of the same file type.
>>60750268
big thanks to the artists and you for organizing it
>>60725493
Hey guys, I'm usually not a noise guy at all, but recently I've been listening to this record called Cuts of Guilt, Cuts Deeper by Merzbow and co, since it's a bit of a rock record, I guess.
I'm usually more a rock fan with a penchant for more experimental stuff, so this really intrigues me. I like it, I guess, but at the same time, I think it's because I feel like I could "get" it, but I can't, you know, physically? Since I'm not a noise music guy myself, generally speaking. All I own in terms of noise is MMM and Prurient's FNF.
Anyway, what are your guys take on this album? I'm pretty sure I've never seen it on /mu/, so what are the noise guys on here/in general thinking about this record? I mean, it's weird to me, and not exactly atmospheric—it's like I have to learn a whole new way to listen to music. Like, I can understand and appreciate some Merzbow, I guess, but the way the four players work here, it's some crazy cacophony for me, like MMM but actually somehow so compelling that it's kind of hard for me to just turn off.
>>60750433
>but I can't, you know, physically
Or maybe it's that I get it physically, but not exactly mentally. I'm not really sure how I should phrase it, but it's like—I find the music enjoyable somehow, I just don't understand how I'm oriented to the music. Like, for example, in ambient music, you let it wash over you, and make it the atmosphere around you, rather than always pay attention to it. Conventional rock, it's like a statue—it's there, you pay attention to it, all the details, for a short time, and then you move on. This record, maybe because it uses drums for more definitive rhythmic structure, feels like somewhere in between—I want to put myself inside it, like ambient music, but just the sheer force of the noise and the drums feel like they simultaneously beckon me in and push me out, you know?
But seriously, what do you guys think of this album? I won't exactly know if this record is massively overhyped since I'm generally not into noise in the first place, but it seems compelling and genuinely intriguing to me.
>>60750526
>I won't exactly know if this record is massively overhyped
Well I've never heard it but I've also only seen people talking about it a handful of times so I wouldn't call it overhyped.
I think I get what you're trying to say about letting the sound wash over you. I tend to get a similar kind of appreciation for noise music as with psychedelic music where I'm very actively listening but the music is hypnotic so I kinda just take it as a whole.
>>60750268
Have you had experience doing something like this or running a label or something?
>>60750268
really proud of you guys
>>60750362
>>60753461
Cheers guys. And thanks to everyone who submitted tracks, especially those in the past few days. I didn't think we'd end up with as many artists as we did in the end.
>>60753022
No experience with a label, though I'd love to start something in the future. No experience other than making noise for about a year and a bit, but it wasn't all that hard. I honestly only posted call outs in these threads about four times
I think the biggest shift in thinking I had in going from rock/guitar oriented music to noise was the lack of rhythm. Yeah, a lot of the distortion and textures were present, but it was always the lack of a discernable rhythm which threw me off. It was like, ok, how is my body meant to react to this? Occasionally in some HMW type noise, I feel a sort of tremolo based crescendo arise from nowhere, especially at loud volumes. In the case of that album you posted though, the feeling I get from it is much like when i heard math rock for the first time. I wanted to like it, but was so put off by the way the instruments were being used. I knew how they usually sounded, but it wasn't the same.
>>60750526
>>60750433
I'm gonna check it out right now with my morning coffee. I'm generally not a huge fan of Merzbow's collaborations except with Richard Pinhas (their styles just seem to fuse really well to me). Balazs Pandi, the drummer on this 2015 release, never really impressed me much with Merzbow. I don't know what it is, I guess I got used to hearing some of Masami's own drumming which is high energy, pretty chaotic free jazz style playing. I feel like Balazs doesn't have the energy and gets trapped repeating too many dull rolls for my taste. And in the other "Cuts" album I didn't appreciate Mats' contributions much.
As this album is starting, I hear the "dying elephant" sounds from Mats' sax. I guess Masami appreciates it in that way, it has ties to jazz but also sounds like a dying elephant, which fits the whole vegan animal rights "meat is murder" type of conceptual mindset. I read about how, once, Thurston Moore went to Japan, and Masami was his tour guide, taking him to obscure record shops, saying "get this, don't get this", and in general was very welcoming.
>>60753943
Anyway, regarding "how to listen to this", coming from a rock background, I think you have to appreciate that all those limitations inherent in riff rock type stuff are melted away in noise. I have a friend that's a drummer in a grunge/alternative rock type of band and he really just can't "get" noise. He needs structure, he needs riffs, he needs discernible formulas, parts, to hold on to, otherwise it just strikes him as meaningless noise. As a drummer, he's limited to playing to songs, he can't get into the free jazz style of playing. It's like his body is too robotic, mechanical, can only play in one way, and because of that, he can only listen in one way.
It's interesting to look into the origins of noise artists like Merzbow, Keiji Haino etc. They were influenced primarily by 70s psychedelic rock, they wanted to do something similar themselves, yet apparently felt trapped by creating structures, songs, and wanted to expand beyond those limitations. They wanted the aesthetic, the sound, the tones, the abrasive intense stimulating sound, without set in stone songs which they'd play the same way every time. Masami saw Cecil Taylor Unit with Andrew Cyrille on drums in Tokyo in the early 70s, when he was a young guy. It must have been hugely influential, hearing a free jazz unit peak live. You can hear elements of it in Merzbow to this day, decades later.
In rock music, every second tends to count. You know, you might miss a crucial bit. Your attention span gets closed in to 3 minutes, 5 minutes... that's why the average person goes "wow, a ten minute song? that's crazy!" because their attention span has been limited to a few minutes, in which they hear everything minutely. Noise tends to be more expansive, it's less about the details, more about the overall effect on your mindset.
>>60754095
30 mins in, shit just got real.
live performance from this year by BLJ, Pharmakon and Future Blondes feat. Pharmakon's sister
Black Leather Jesus / Pharmakon / Future Blondes w/ Reptilian Sexual Predator + Jane Pain - Defile Texas 2. 5. 15.
>Harsh Noise / Noise / Death Industrial
https://mega.nz/#!f58QCZ5a
>>60725493
>hate noise
>see Bastard Noise live
>love noise
>>60754423
decryption key pls
>>60754457
sry, wrong export-link
https://mega.nz/#!f58QCZ5a!_HRVptOrWZcO8uRGHDOtBpWYevpE4geYUC4_AVKLNgM
>>60754487
thanks m8
>Crowhurst - all major albums
>black noise, experimental black metal, essential
sample:
http://crowhurst.bandcamp.com
download:
https://mega.nz/#F!3VM2SQZb!zgic6L_GHopo6Jt47wrs0w
>assorted noise
>lustmord, come, fejhed, aaron dilloway, spk, haters, chop shop, etc
download:
https://mega.nz/#F!zNUGnL6Q!mldyslyKVnxAkuePBrS6kQ
>>60727941
he did the cover to the split SB did with <o> and collaborated with him, vomir and a bunch of other people on this
https://crowhurst.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-speedboat-under-the-sea
>>60738228
Try To Live and Shave in L.A.'s later output.
Merely Resurrected
Horoscopo
Each Day Vomits its Tomorrow
etc..
>>60750268
Thank you so much for putting this together man, and to everyone involved.
Would love to contribute to another one!
>>60748190
terrifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wubo-GcfnFs
>>60726496
i made army of gay unicorns. most of it was made between 12 and 14 years ago. thankfully, it didn't get released while i was still calling it BILE (Blackness Is Light Enough). THAT'S edgy.
new stuff is happening, slowly. https://soundcloud.com/armyofgayunicorns/concussed-and-terrified
>>60755713
weak
>>60755442
God that was awful.
Hi-Joe-Kay-Dan. Fuck off.
For a dumbshit in a metal t-shirt with metal shit all over his room his reaction to extreme music is the same reaction people who exclusively listen to top 40 stuff would have to his music.
I get that it's a joke but it isn't funny and hypocritical and lame.
Fuck you for posting it.
>>60756023
>Hi-Joe-Kay-Dan.
>triggered
>>60756023
i don't think he's making fun of noise but he's actually listening to noise himself and just wanted to troll
at least that's what i'm hoping
>>60756071
If that's the case then it's fine. Maybe I judged too quickly. From checking his other videos he seems to listen to a lot of relatively extreme metal (Revenge, etc.) so he should be no stranger to the harshness of that Hijokaidan song.
Hey, /Noise/ does anyone know how a a band like Tollund Men make their sound? semi- noise related.
link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG2dIfeFys4
>>60756273
Well, I'm no expert, but-
It sounds like some simple synthesizers and a drum machine being dubbed hot to tape, it sounds like tape distortion to me, not just a regular pedal, and since it effects everything equally, that's my best guess.
There's delay on the vocals, and some sort of bass instrument, possibly a guitar or another synth.
I like the song, it's pretty straightforward gothic synth-pop stuff but I have a weak spot for that shit anyway.
>>60756145
Plus one of the related videos shows him owning stalaggh on vinyl.
>>60756494
fair enuff
>>60756361
thanks, I felt like it had to involve tape distortion.
>>60756565
I haven't recorded music to tape in about 6 years, but that track definitely had a quality that I found very similar to my (failed) attempts at tape mastering back in the day.
Current car-listenin
>>60755713
WHO THE FUCK LISTENS TO THAT??? haha jk i listen to mayhem he stabbed a guy once you know
>>60757145
good night /noise/
sleep tight
don't let
the bedbugs bite
and if i die
before i wake
i pray the lord
my soul 2 take
>>60757204
its 11:34 pm
>>60757228
For you
>>60755713
>and i'm going to listen to this famous japanese
MERZBOW
>hijokaidan
Let's assume it was funny
>>60757375
don't worry, it wasn't.
>>60757631
by the way. I know this is potential shitstorm inducing question.
Why ppl act like it's such a big deal to call noise music not-music? I know some make a big deal out off it just to shitpost a little but some clearly don't.
>>60757717
shut the fuck up
>>60757717
I think it might be the judgmental implication people have when they say it. When I hear people say "noise isn't music", what usually follows is a follow-up on how and/or why you listen to it. It's sort of meant to discredit the genre by questioning the legitimacy of not only the music, but also the person listening to it. It's generally not a nice thing to say.
>>60757728
Also not a nice thing to say. You're a meanie.
>>60757830
So it's like with all that ppl who think that the point of modern art is skill and how good one can draw.
>>60757967
Yeah, pretty much.
>>60757989
please receive this gig as a way to show you my gratitude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGOKLAlFqSs
>>60741624
>so I can hear all of the instruments as if it is straight from the mix.
Dude earplugs dampen high frequencies a lot more than lower frequencies. I know it's not noise, but I noticed that when I saw Godspeed You! Black Emperor live, while I always bring earplugs with me to a show, their performance wasn't nearly as loud as I expected, and was better without earplugs.
Keep in mind sub-bass you will feel regardless of ear plugs.
Also, the stuff musicians have in their ears are monitors; they use that to hear their own performances, not to plug their ears.
Then again, I'm not a big noise guy, so if it's different in this genre, I wouldn't know.
NBND #16
>>60758519
Noise it's kinda different. Shit happens when one chick is skreaming at the top of her lungs, two other guys destroy guitars and one no-input fucker is screeching his brain away. Of course it depends, but focus usually goes into high frequencies.(But it's mostly me, I love chaotic screeches more than low rumbling bass)
>>60758654
I never listened, and even heard about Skin Graft.
What kind of noise he makes?
>>60758908
the best
harsh, real crispy, sizzling, frying textures
this tape probably isn't the best example of that, but seriously check out Dystrophy or Cancerous, both 10/10 noise
bumping with junko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqTl-Ed40_s
>>60758908
One of the best producers around
Skin Graft - 24 Grudges
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/a2sy2j4qqxf5lzx/24grudges.rar
Skin Graft - You Deserve Nothing
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/25mjraxzghsqwtz/youdeservenothing.rar
This just got released today.
https://questionrecords.bandcamp.com/album/t-projection
Some vapor/ambient in there as well. Some of of the more noisy tracks are 3, 7, 9, 13, and 14
>>60759696
I do NBND so I only listened to 379
3 is rather boring i think. I don't like that hazy texture and seems too long to me. I like that screaming voices tho. It's too long and focuses too much one rather one-dimensional idea I think. End is so. Pointless.
7 is like this negative space where band starts playing and nothing is certain for sure. I like that feeling. It seems more like study of an object than a "song". Kinda what early futurists did but not as interesting. Also this annoying hazy texture again.
9 love the glitches. Again negative space but in my opinion much more creative and well made. Hazy texture again but at least it isn't too long. But sadly, again it seems to me more like study of an material than full blown track.
>>60759046
>>60759509
thanks guys
NBND #17
30 seconds in and this is already amazing
>>60753943
>you'll never get a tour of tokyo with merz
>>60750433
Otomo Yoshihide said that part of his influence for creating noise was listening to 60-70's rock (he cited the who btw, i'm talking about his rbma talk) on a crappy player. He put the volume up to eleven and listened to what came out. For him that was rock.
For me noise is rock in some sense. It's nihilistic, individual, it's about the physical, it's about the volume. Of course nowadays it's much more than this, but that's how I see things and what I strive for in my "work".
Anyway, for me a big thing was starting to make noise myself, or just trying to be loud and abrasive. That's when I found out how much work goes into the sound alone, not to mention the collage and the use of dynamics, that are key to the some of the more "traditional" noise. (I'm really not that well versed here, so don't take me seriously)
Anyway, if you liked that (and that's a free improv album) you may want to look up Last Exit and Brötzmann's Machine Gun and Nipples.
Thurston Moore's improv output never seemed interesting to me.
NBND #18
>>60761228
Are all of these new to you?
thanks to the guy who recommended me japanoise by david novak. a seriously great and insightful book, recommended reading for anyone with even a passing interest in noise
>>60761270
yes, I've listened to a fair amount of Skin Graft, Hive Mind and Sick Llama, but not these particular releases
it's about time I plundered more of Hanson Records anyway
>>60761291
Have you read any other books on noise?
>>60761914
sadly none other than the paul hegarty one which i'm reading now as well. building up something of a backlog of books now since i started reading more. on noise, amazon is recommending me:
>'Resonances: Noise and Contemporary Music' by Michael Goddard
>'Noise Matters: Towards an Ontology of Noise' by Greg Hainge
both of which seem good too
NBND #19
>>60762341
>>60762380
caught ya
>>60762341
NIHILIST NOSOUND WALL
Someone asked me what I was listening to recently and I made the mistake of answering honestly with noise. They asked me if I was a murderer or paedophile
>>60762830
valid question desu
>>60762830
I giggled a little. You could try telling something like
>but I only listen to hnw
to sink yrself even deeper
>>60762830
Cmon buddy, you KNOW that you should always answer with the names of three remixed songs.
>I know a guy who does this
>He uses beats that are broken
>he wont stop using them because they are "Superior" beats
>the audio on them constantly cuts out
>hes okay with this
>>60762905
>story
that's pretty japanoise if you ask me.
NBND #20
Anybody see this movie? The guy she's making out with plays a noise musician and there's a scene where he tries to explain it to her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPXoOZqbmwA
>>60762913
maybe so, but this guy singing the choruses of these remixed songs way too loud (even the glitchy parts, he copies them almost perfectly) is awful.
>>60762922
noise being referenced in things like that always freaks me out
it's like someone's violated your secret little world
>>60762922
I tend to stay far away from oh-so-quirky comedy movies
They invariably try way too hard
>>60762949
don't bash him. He just realised that true noise comes from vocals. (Srsly tho, I think that no noisician ever will beat junko)
>>60762922
I wish mumblecore never existed and everyone associated with it was dead.
>>60763023
look up diamanda galas
>>60763046
that's how I started dude. I found a tape bought by my dad in the basement.
>>60762987
>>60763039
Sorry. Not everything can be another Avengers movie.
>>60763077
frightening, huh! i first heard her as a teenager too and i genuinely couldn't comprehend it, i think it might have been the only real time i can remember being totally and utterly stupefied by something
