Post albums that only a teenager could enjoy / think are innovative
Cardiacs are fucking awful
I'd like their songs more if the singer wasn't a hack
that animal collective album with an illusion on its cover
its all just an illusion
>>60539125
>moondog
spot on
Cardiacs really are some of the worst music I've heard and not because it's inaccessible (it isn't, they had a hit and most of their songs sound just like britpop songs from the 90s)
>>60539156
Avant-teen detected.
>>60539156
of all the teenager AnCo albums you pick MPP?
Pet Sounds.
>>60539125
I hope you choke on a dick
>>60539183
>if you don't like AnCo you're an avant teen
>if you like moondog you're an avant teen
kill yourselves
>>60538970
>>60539181
kind of sad that the one faggot annoying prog trip fag with shit taste ruined this album
its actually pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLoe4DGT3hk
>>60539214
>liking Moondog
>thinking Moondog is innovative
teenager, absolutely teenager
I'm guessing you've listened to next to zero classical
>>60539183
>Avant-teen detected.
first you have to be teen in order to become avanteen. my time has passed already.
>of all the teenager AnCo albums you pick MPP?
yes. the one in your pic is really good.
>>60539214
aww did baby just discover RYM?
there's no reason to get so mad... it's all going to be ok
>anything by anco except STG
>everything by steven wilson
>everything by st vincent
>everything by kanye west
>everything by sufjan stevens
>>60538970
>mfw their torsos are not entirely there
>>60539246
>yes. the one in your pic is really good.
it's the kind of whiney "LOL TEENAGER PROBLEMS" album that gets eaten up around /mu/
>>60539221
that song sucks but sing to god has some decent songs that arent just the same note played over and over again
like have you actually heard a little man and the whole world window or whatever
>>60539258
>anything by steven wilson
definitely this
>>60539285
>it's the kind of whiney "LOL TEENAGER PROBLEMS" album that gets eaten up around /mu/
most music is "LOL TEENAGER PROBLEMS" if you look at it like that
to me it's just heavenly music, with fairy imagery and all. reminds me of my childhood when i used to read lots of fairies and watch lo-fi fairy cartoons.
fucking mr bungle
>>60539248
>RYM
thanks but I don't use that shit
>>60539243
>I'm guessing you've listened to next to zero classical
tipping my hat to you you absolute subhuman faggot
>>60539258
>>60539355
now THIS is something I can get behind with
>>60539355
this
and the Fall
>>60539243
>I'm guessing you've listened to next to zero classical
>implying Moondog is somehow aspiring to be classical
>implying all orchestral music is classical
>being this much of a plebeian
Anything by Newsom
>>60539258
would argue some of these are innovative in their arrangement/sonically
>>60539391
>>60539410
I'm just saying if you have listened to classical music then you would see what a hack Moondog is.
And yeah, Moondog was definitely "trying to be classical."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34C4NTfQvgM
It's not a very innovative album other than for the song Manhoo and the Fiery Gun Hand guitar solo though.
>>60539221
>kind of sad that the one faggot annoying prog trip fag with shit taste ruined this album
It wasn't me who ruined the album, but some anon who shitposted things about it all the time.
>>60539181
>Cardiacs really are some of the worst music I've heard and not because it's inaccessible
Ever saw the comic about the fox and the grapes?
>they had a hit
Which sounds nothing like their other stuff
>and most of their songs sound just like britpop songs from the 90s
Not really. Maaaybe Guns, but not the rest of their stuff.
>>60538970
Get AIDS
>>60539595
>Ever saw the comic about the fox and the grapes?
What were you told about being pretentious?
>>60539595
How are manhoo and fiery gun hand in any way innovative
>Which sounds nothing like their other stuff
their older stuff is even worse
>Ever saw the comic about the fox and the grapes?
Why would I have sour grapes about cardiacs
>Not really. Maaaybe Guns, but not the rest of their stuff.
have you actually ever listened to a blur song. by the way theres nothing innovative about Cardiavs in any shape or form. Split Enz were doing it in the early 70s along with DEVO, face it, Cardiacs are derivative as shit
>>60539595
wow nice music discussion, do you play any instrument?
>>60539662
I don't remember.
>>60539742
>How are manhoo and fiery gun hand in any way innovative
Pop Chorus for the first one. Guitar solo for the second one.
>their older stuff is even worse
According to what? Your taste?
>have you actually ever listened to a blur song.
Yes. Parklife.
Yes, Cardiacs are very derivative of some bands, but they also had a style on their own and were innovative about the stuff I mentioned earlier.
>>60539755
Yes
>>60539793
I'll remind you.
>>60539808
Admitting a mistake is the least pretentious thing one can do...
Someone who is actually pretentious never admits being wrong.
>>60539793
is it a wind instrument that you play?
or just a piano?
>>60539589
>mfw Moondog got acclaim from a lot of actual classical composers
>mfw people on /mu/ don't think they're effectively teenagers by merit of simply posting here
>>60539835
But you didn't: you never said "It was wrong of me to say that I could evaluate this work, even though I said earlier I shouldn't have."
>>60539417
I couldn't consider her innovative but i think she has a very appealing sound!
>>60539185
I could see why a teen could like this, but i haven't heard much else like it.
>>60539125
>>60538970
I could agree on these, and pic related, not that its the worst thing ever. Just so fucking trendy, where the average adult wouldn't care to love it as much as an internet using teen.
>>60539904
thats neil hagerty, not moondog
>>60539904
>>mfw Moondog got acclaim from a lot of actual classical composers
>only Philip Glass and Steve Reich
that's like saying "<jazz artist> got acclaim from a lot of other jazz artists" and them being Frank Zappa and BBNG.
>>60539589
>moondog "trying" to be anything
read up on him
>I'm just saying if you have listened to classical music then you would see what a hack Moondog is.
pic related. thats just 1 composer. stop making assumptions about other people you faggot.
>>60539926
I meant to agree with Arca >>60539283
Not moondog hes cool
>>60539946
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>tries to prove he likes classical music
>post ONE set of recordings, aimed for utter plebs to Beethoven, of BEETHOVEN, THE most pleb accessible composer of all time
You're fucking hilarious m8 do you do stand up?
>>60539899
Flute and Piano.
>>60539917
I do now then.
>>60539978
>Flute and Piano.
very nice
>>60539946
>>60539976
Like imagine someone saying
>pic related, that's just ONE Jazz artist
and it's like Miles Davis the Complete Bitches Brew Sessions
>>60539927
Royal Trux is fine too.
>>60539945
It's funny how you mention jazz because he received recognition from a fair number of jazz musicians as well. Because, you know, third stream.
>>60539978
yeah the skin flute lmao
fucking gay dude
>>60539976
>beethoven
>"plebeian"
>using pleb unironically
i've seen enough
>>60540006
nothing wrong with bitches brew aswell, are you okay?
>>60540084
I've never heard a Jazz comment on classical music that didn't sound very out of touch.
That's not an insult to Jazz musicians but they very often don't know much about it.
Like look at this Mingus quote
>Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody can plan weird; that's easy. What's hard is to be as simple as Bach. Making the simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity.
>>60540156
You're obviously young, and very new to classical music. That's fine. But don't then pretend like you can speak for classical music because you downloaded a single compilation from rutracker. That's what a teenager does.
>nothing wrong with bitches brew aswell
>deliberately ignoring the point
>>60540156
>>60540180
And I never said Beethoven was plebeian, I said he is the most pleb accessible composer of all time which is absolutely true. Sonata 14, Symphony 5, etc.
be honest if you are a cardiacs fans you are no older than 17
>>60540266
I'm 19
>>60540180
>young
I'm 22, I don't think thats particulary young
>deliberately ignoring the point
your point is both are entry level, I'm saying there's nothing wrong with entry level
let me repeat: are you okay? something wrong?
>>60540163
that quote does sound off, but you have to consider that mingus was relatively coo-coo in the later stages of his career
>>60540288
no youre not
>>60540294
>that quote does sound off
It doesn't "sound off" it's objectively wrong. Bach isn't simple music. You're proving your ignorance with every post.
Why do you keep pretending like you can speak for classical music?
>>60540288
and suddenly it's all explained
>>60540307
I literally am c;
>>60540163
>I've never heard a Jazz comment on classical music that didn't sound very out of touch.
Except Moondog wasn't strictly a classical musician. His music incorporated elements of a lot of broad genres (namely jazz and classical) without being too convoluted in execution. His music was quite simple, but still very nuanced stylistically.
>>60540163
And yeah, that quote is just kinda fucked. It's weird how Mingus had trie to incorporate classical into some of his most significant works but not seem clear on the complexity of Bach's works.
>>60540339
>It doesn't "sound off" it's objectively wrong.
that's exactly what I was saying, stop playing dumb. just because I don't use your meme lingo doesn't mean you have to dissect every sentence, lmao
>Why do you keep pretending like you can speak for classical music?
never did actually, all I said was that I listen to classical music a lot
if you feel like it you can quote me where I say "I'm an expert on classical music"
once again you're shifting the goalpost, it doesn't matter at all how versed I am in classical music since moondog is and has always been considered outsider music
listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvXROes0ar8
that's not classical, it's not "faux classical", if anything it's close to jazz
how about YOU share YOUR criticism of why you think moondog is horrible instead of embarrassing yourself?
>>60540479
are you okay? something wrong?
>>60540537
>something wrong?
spent the last ten minutes of my life arguing with a mouthbreathing idiot
atleast my soup turned out fantastic
Basically
1) Moondog composed in both idioms, sure; but he undeniably wrote music that was trying to be or was "classical."
2) Moondog's music, regardless of how enjoyable it may or may not be to a person, is not innovative except to people like teenagers with a cursory understanding of the idioms.
>>60540629
>sure; but he undeniably wrote music that was trying to be or was "classical."
That's fucking retarded. You're retarded.
>>60540673
Did you listen to the Bach ripoff from earlier? I guess you're the retarded one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34C4NTfQvgM
>I'm so insecure I feel the need to validate myself
>>60540479
>that's not classical, it's not "faux classical", if anything it's close to jazz
>THERE'S A SAXOPHONE SO IT MUST BE JAZZ
