Congratulations /mu/, here is the new and improved Dad Rocker's Guide to Modern Music 2015 version! Thanks to all the anons that contributed.
>>60525733
Many of these albums are quite bad, and may actually go to proving a Dadrocker's point.
>>60525733
>Sun Kil Moon
Are you fucking kidding? That guys' music is as thrash as his voice.
>>60525733
Previous thread
>>60520259
ignore the shitpsoters, far improved from the original
>>60525761
>>60525772
Propose alternatives, I'm sure the list could be tweaked if you've got something valid.
>LE EBIN DADROCK WRONG GENERATION MEME XDD
Kill yourself
>>60525733
holy shit it's even worse
>>60525810
I don't think you understand what's happening here.
>>60525835
I do, fuck off back to your containment subleddit if you want to circlejerk about your shitty top 40 garbage, you're the cancer killing this board
>>60525761
>>60525772
>>60525817
Keep in mind there are some disagreements, and that's fine. We're never going to get a universal, or even /mu/niversal consensus. That's fine. Not every album is going to work for everyone, and every dadrocker is different, no matter how slightly. Keep that in mind.
If you guys want actual improvements, suggest actual, specific albums and what they should replace. Anything less than that is shitposting.
>>60525733
I'll stick with dadrock, thanks.
>>60525847
You're wrong.
>>60525863
this
>>60525761
>>60525772
>>60525810
>>60525817
What's wrong with it anons? This is still a work in progress I think, if you suggest changes then I'm sure it can be improved for the collective betterment
>>60525797
Benji should be replaced with HOOM.
Death Blues should be replaced with Josh Abram's Magnetoception.
OPN should be replaced with Burial.
I told you trying to fix the chart was a waste of time
>>60525847
>shitty top 40 garbage, you're the cancer killing this board
>Most of this chart
>top 40
For fucks sake, man, are you even trying?
>>60525849
I want St. Vincent. No matter what trolls say, she's doing things no one else is doing.
>inb4 meme hair
>>60525847
Nothing in that pic is top 40 mane
>>60525733
It's ok chart actually
Thank fuck there are no Death grips
Please keep in mind that the choices made for the chart were made between 2010/2011 to present
>all of the electronic picks
>Grouper and Angel Olsen as examples of good singers
>all of those lyrical picks except The Drones
Jesus fucking christ
The last one was pretty poor but it was at least workable, this is just plain retarded
>>60525878
The only way to improve this garbage is pretending it never existed and banning all poptimists
>TPAB
>You're Dead
>Pom Pom
Should be replaced, but everything else is great.
>>60525889
>Death Blues should be replaced with Josh Abram's Magnetoception.
>OPN should be replaced with Burial.
Nope.
>>60525929
>poptimist
please define
>>60525948
why Pom Pom?
What the fuck does poptimism even mean
>>60525962
Anyone who posts top 40 garbage and pretends it's good to appear open-minded, usually normies and p4kdrones
>>60525971
It's a good album but I'm not sure that the typical dadrocker would like it.
>>60525956
OPN and Death Blues are both extremely overhyped artists that are indeed "experimental," but so poorly executed that it does not make a difference.
you shouldve known this would never work again, back when we made the first one /mu/ actually liked things and had fun listening to music
>>60525948
>>TPAB
>>You're Dead
Keep in mind an important part of this chart is making sure Dadrockers won't be able to just dismiss it.
TPAB has muh poetry and muh black American identity, which makes is hard to just dismiss as sex and violence. Similarly, You're Dead deals with ideas that aren't about sex and violence (for the most part, anyway), and with Herbie Hancock on the album as well as just killer instrumental sections, Dadrockers won't be able to just throw it under the bus.
>>60525929
That's a convenient way to avoid contributing.
>>60525981
I get it, they're cancer. But still, don't go and say that EVERY popular album is bad 'cos it's fucking retarded.
>>60525986
>so poorly executed that it does not make a difference
>Ensemble
>poorly executed
Pick one.
I'd agree that the essays that came with it aren't necessary and might even bog down the music, but the album itself is superb.
>>60525733
I can guess who suggested Death Blues Ensemble ;)
>To Be Kind
Remove this you dumb faggot. One song is literally 30 minutes long. Fucking hell, you could listen to a whole album in that time. Put St. Vincent or Deerhunter there instead. You would seriously recommend that pretentious artsy wank to someone who thinks rock is shit these days? They'll double down on their opinions if they hear that shit.
>>60525912
I agree that st Vincent should be on there t b h but I don't know that much about pop so I never recommended it
>>60525929
What specific albums would you remove/add?
>>60526043
>You would seriously recommend that pretentious artsy wank to someone who thinks rock is shit these days?
Are you fucking retarded? Dadrockers love this shit. They worship under ITCOTCK, Zep IV, and DSOTM.
>>60526007
>muh black American identity
Dadrockers will hate that.
And You're Dead is great but it's more electronic than rap.
>>60526070
>What specific albums would you remove
All of them
>>60526039
It's meticulously crafted, no doubt. But the end product is a cluttered, unfocused record.
>>60526081
suck my schlong, you and dadrockers
>>60525817
>he likes nouns
>>60526081
Not necessarily, /b/ would hate that.
>>60526084
Then leave and make your own list since your'e so patrician.
>>60526043
dadrockers usually love long winded songs you moron, they listen to pink floyd and rush all the fucking time and theyre terrible, might as well give them something interesting like swans to waste time with
>>60526073
To Be Kind is a whole new beast when it comes to long, drawn out wank. It sounds like a self-mocking parody of progressive rock.
>>60525733
If ur gonna include carrie and lowell, mountain goats deserve a spot too
>>60525733
Reddit invaded /mu/ so expect a lot of shitposting.
That's a pretty neutral and good chart for the time being, good job making a collective chart giving the actual state of neo-/mu/, i can't even imagine the pile of shit you had to tackle trough to get this done.
>>60526043
I love the album, but i agree
>>60526073
just the 4 minute intro to bring the sun would scare off most dad-rockers
>>60526165
It wasn't so bad in the last thread, actually. Some bad suggestions, but most of them were well thought out.
>>60526165
I'm not into the whole neo-/mu/, reddit-tier, pitchfork-tier mindset that alot of /mu/ is in. I like to be open to what people liked, which this chart is the result of.
>>60525733
alright i'll give some suggestions
How old is this music allowed to be?
>1st row
Swans should be there, so that's good, i don't have much to say other than that
>2nd row
i'm gonna get shit, but one album by either Tyler/Earl should be there, they're deeply personal lyrically and go way, way beyond glam rap
Something by Airospace as well, very introspective rapper with quite the bandcamp following
TPAB should be removed
>3rd row
pornophonique should be there, holy shit (just one album too)
Perturbator as well
Also she
>4th row
A.N.T.I. by Diapsiquir should really be there
>5th row
i kinda agree tbqh but Tonstartssbandht is fantastic and they're pop (i recommend either An When or Now I Am Become)
>6th
nothing tbqh i don't agree but i don't really have the right to speak here
also Ariel Pink of course
>7th
Sarapanitum, good call
anything by Gridlink
any new Napalm Death record
Wormrot too
so many it's hard to say honestly, this is a guide for morons so it's hard to think from that prespective
>final row
Paralectus, Das or Si Monumentum by Deathspell Omega
also Gridlink again
just a few recs
>>60526165
well they got 'death blues' on the chart, its actually kinda good
>>60526081
>Dadrockers will hate that.
But they can't just deny that it's important. Keep in mind, if they like the old sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll music, they are also most likely liberals.
So "dadrocker #1" says singers suck nowadays and you come up with Grouper, Joanna Newsom and all that trite trash as current examples of great vocals? Why are they all female even?
Flying Lotus in rap? Might as well put in there Kamasi Washington, Dean Blunt and Frank Ocean, they're "rap" americans too. D'Angelo as some kind of lyricism landmark despite half of his album being indecipherable?
Why not just tell the "dadrockers" to browse Pitchfork daily in order to obtain the best music? It's not like you're going to get your time back.
>>60526120
>he memorizes what tripfags like and don't like
>>60526100
>a cluttered, unfocused record
I disagree completley, but then again, to each their own. I do think Dadrockers would be into it, though. Or at least, they won't just be able to dismiss it, which is kind of the point of the list.
>>60526162
At least Sufjan can sing. That goatshit don't even deserve to be mentioned.
Some great picks, like Wesseltoft Schwarz Duo, but overall shit. Everyone who likes that Everything Everything album needs to die.
>>60526199
>one album by either Tyler/Earl should be there
Agreed. Definitely Doris if anything.
>>60526196
i get why you dont want to compartmentalize music into the other categories, its 90% why this place went to shit, but neo /mu/ is real as fuck.
>>60526199
>i'm gonna get shit, but one album by either Tyler/Earl should be there,
Yes, you're getting shit. You expect dadrockers to be in that shit?
And fuck off with TPAb being removed, it's a politicized record. Whatever you call it, it's more than just about sex or violence.
>Also she
If this is the "she" who makes Daft-punk-tier electro, then no.
>>60526217
>Flying Lotus in rap
There's Kendrick, Snoop, and Captain murphy on there you mong.
>>60526219
>>60526199
>Suggesting tyler
>He really likes nouns
You have to be the shittiest troll ever, no way you can have that shit taste.
>>60526257
I'm mostly referring to the negative aspects of it. The positives, I'm totally for.
If you're going to completely change the chart can you change the title or something too? Pretty easy.
>>60526285
I was using ms paint to make this, so all the fancy stuff people can do on photoshop I can't.
>>60526285
The point of the chart is proving dadrockers/lewronggenerashun/plebs/redditors and their generalized opinions on modern music being wrong. Why he should change the title?
>>60526285
This. And add some things.
>add something like experimental/avantgarde/"what the fuck is this" section, plebs tend to think it's "cool" to like "strange music"
>>60526269
>Daft-punk-tier electro
More like Nakata-tier.
>>60526269
oh shit, i thought it was to ''prove'' dadrockers wrong
then yeah, remove tyler and that shit
i don't really see how she makes ''Daft-punk-tier electro'' they're barely the same genre but whatever
pornophonique is really good for dadrockers though
>>60526282
>hur dur shit taste
>no way people can have different taste than mine >:(
i'm yet to see any arguments you moron
fuck off
So now when the dust has settled, what version is better?
>>60525733
ITT: We ruin an okay chart with "improvements".
>>60526370
OPs Version is more dadrock friendly, this chart would be like step 2.
Even though op chart would benefit specifically from Shaking The Habitual, Nanda Collection and The ape of Naples
>>60526355
Not >>60526282 this guy, but if you listen to tyler your taste is fucking shit. It's in the same boat as Mac DeMarco.
>le meme music
>le analogy effects xd
>>60526370
This is much much better but some of the albums are more than 15 years old
>>60526355
why the fuck should i waste time and arguments on a shitty troll?
post your lastfm so i can confirm you actually listen to that shit and maybe i'll believe you.
>>60525878
>This is still a work in progress I think
It's been a "work in progress" since 2013. It's fucked.
I never realized there was so much weird music out there that isn't very good!
>>60526370
nice job missing the point with all those albums made before 2010 there dingus
>>60526370
>that metal
>all those DG albums
terrible
>>60526435
Maybe bringing Dadrockers to the modern day is not the best idea. Maybe a better idea is to bring them to this general musical period.
>not suggesting Merriweather Post Pavillion in the "all pop sucks" section
Did you forget or...?
>>60526370
Both are shit, but in different ways. DeepChord, Haco & Toshiya Tsunoda and salyu x salyu for example are great recs. Rap+Metal selection really sucks. Three fucking Meme Grips albums and they're on the completely wrong categories. I don't think this was made by one person, rather as a /mu/ collaboration with some seeing how it's so scatterbrained.
>>60526370
>quotsa, meme grips, run the jewels, grimes (??????), kanye, mount eerie
my GOD
>>60526269
>There's Kendrick, Snoop, and Captain murphy on there you mong.
7:32 minutes out of the 38 that make the album, fair enough, let's say now Tago Mago is a funk album and The Stooges' self titled is pure drone.
>>60526457
The chart shouldn't aim specifically to dadrockers, but to plebs in general imo, the chart is good as it is. Just change the title to Plebs guide or IWASBORNINTHEWRONGGENERATION guide.
>>60526436
http://www.last.fm/pt/user/duartemartinho
if you're actually this fucking retarded, do you also believe that the waifuposting that consists of 80% of /mu/ threads right now are also trolling?
>>60526472
Also that Kanye album, fuck off.
>>60526370
The point of the new thread is to give albums of the current decade (post 2009 i guess)
also
>DG in rawk is dead
>>60526478
There's plenty of plebby music on that chart.
I still think Yeezus could replace Pom Pom in the pop one
>>60526478
>The chart shouldn't aim specifically to dadrockers, but to plebs in general imo
That's what the original /mu/core charts were for.
>>60526483
>waifuposting
>not trolling
jesus christ lad, stop meta-trolling now, are you really autistic?
>>60526370
i dont think this is better
categories are mixed up
i wouldnt rec mbdtf for someone looking for good pop music
wouldnt call jenny death rock
also this isnt hipster and obscure enough for /mu/
>>60526528
fuck off
you literally know nothing about half these genres lmao
>>60526537
>le "because you posted a woman musician you're waifuing" meme xD
>>60526556
they were suggested by /mu/tants not him lmao
>>60526472
>>60526474
>>60526489
>tried to keep it entry level in some ways
>>60526477
>a rapper must be rapping for it to be a hip hop album.
Incredible
I guess instrumental hip-hop isn't really hip hop, and what was J Dilla again?
>>60526649
i dont think theyre shitposting cause it is entry level, theyre just too cool to like albums that get posted here because "meme"
>>60526655
You're not saying that Flying Lotus is rap, right?
>>60526684
things arent really rap since rap is a vocal style and not a genre, but things have rapping in them, which youre dead has
>>60526683
So you're saying that I dislike >>60526474 because I think they're memes? Fuck off, retard.
>>60526701
But it's MUCH more experimental (or even trip hop) than rap/hip-hop. It's like saying St. Vincent is jazz because it has some trumpets.
>>60525894
Thats a cute little swimming washcloth.
So it upgraded to like 3 good albums to 2.
>>60525733
>Two of my suggestions made it on
I'm satisfied. TPAB is still shit and doesn't fit the chart though.
>>60526861
Which two?
Improvement or nah?
why the fuck would you move Joanna Newsom from lyrics to singing?
I'm actually a fan of her voice, but no way would that feeling be reciprocated by someone just diving into this stuff. However pretty much everyone acknowledges her ability as a lyricist, I just don't get that move at all.
>yfw dadrockers are right
>>60526913
I would have kept TPAB on, most people like it, it's a pretty universally receivable album. I still like the replacements you chose.
>>60526913
>Earl
>Lupe
>Removing TPAB
shamefur dispray
>>60526965
I still like TPAB but it does have a decent bit of gang violence. Most dadrockers will notice the "IMA PUT A BULLET IN THE BACK OF THE HEADS OF THE POLICE" before they notice the anti-violence talk.
>>60527043
They'll notice how boring it is before they'll notice that line
>>60525772
This, his lyrics are the musical equivalent of grandpa telling bad stories at the dinner table
>>60526907
New History Warfare Vol. 2 and Pom Pom
>>60526915
It was a recommendation by another anon in the last thread and I thought about it and moved it.
>>60526495
I tried to aim for 2010/2011+ for this chart.
>>60527120
Cool, I had Black Milk and Shigeto.
Literally garbage
I kinda doubt a dadrocker would like Shabazz Palaces
>>60527209
Then contribute.
>>60527220
I was reluctant to place it on this chart since it was on the other one, but so many people wanted it on there so I felt obligated.
>>60525733
>Angel Olson
>Good singer
only around a dozen albums listed are any good
>>60526913
that electronic section is trash
>Shitting on the chart without suggesting anything.
REDDIT LEAVE
I could make a better chart than this or the old one single handed. What are the parameters? Came out in the last 5 years?
>>60527314
>>60527308
Suggest something, that's what we're here for.
>>60527370
wow can I sit with you at lunch time?
>>60527370
pretty much. but this was a community effort
>>60527370
Yes, go make a chart cool kid. Has to be something dad rockers would like.
the fuck, man, i suggested, like 20 albums and not a single one got on here
>>60527454
sorry
>>60527454
I suggested 1 among all I wanted and it still isn't there.
>not even 1 St. Vincent album? Are you fucking with me?
>>60527464
oh wait nvm Let England Shake got on there
still, though, i feel like this chart kind of missed the point. it's like it's just a big pat on the back for knowing about obscure music no one's ever heard of (with few exceptions) instead of an entryway to get someone who doesn't really search for music to find new and interesting stuff. a "dadrocker's guide to modern music" should be stuff that's accessible enough for people who normally only care about things already in their fathers' music collection to attempt to expand their horizons. like this one: >>60526370 (though that's got some serious flaws: who the fuck would listen to GY!BE and say "yeah, that's real rock music" and what pleb would be interested in Fuck Buttons?)
>>60525733
First was better
You're dead isn't even fucking rap, most of those metal albums aren't that special, what's with rock being four alternative albums and then fucking Swans, and Syro is retro if anything.
>>60527370
feel free to make a chart, no one will agree with you on shit, almost all suggestions and dissenting opinions on the new or old chart come from people just shitting on things they dont like without any perspective on what the purpose of the chart is meant for
in short, your opinion isnt the point of the chart
>>60526913
>Tossing FlyLo and Kendrick for Earl and Lupe
Bad choice man
You're Dead! And TPAB are a lot more acceptable by Dadrocker standards than either of your replacements
>>60527454
Let me guess, they weren't from Pitchfork?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiDDlebQwz8
Could fit in the true rock/metal category.
>>60527543
also, it seems kind of unnecessary to limit it to things only released in the last 5 years. last 10 years would probably work better and still be "modern".
>>60527639
man, i said that, like three times. it's the best possible choice for that category.
Implying dadrockers would even give your chart the time of day. They don't listen to reason.
Why are PJ and Bjork there?
They're great artist and everything but they have better albums from before.
We should put artists who have done their best work of art this decade.
That would convince lewronggenerations.
>>60525733
>fruitypeeblls watermark is still there
op you missed something in the upper left corner
>>60528162
huh. never noticed that before.
>>60527654
things changed A LOT in the last 10 years
>>60525733
this is embarrassing, you should be embarrassed.
Was the Mars Volta album removed because "muh /mu/ meme"?
>>60525733
Get rid of the Everything Everything album ffs
>>60525733
Nice
>>60525733
first row
>Deafheaven -Sunbather tbqhf
second row
>Death Grips - Exmilitary
>Danny Brown - XXX
>Kanye West - Yeezus
>Clipping - clppng
third row
>Jamie xx - In Colour
fourth row
>Tim Hecker - Virgins.
fifth row
>grimes - art angels/visions
>neon indian - vega intl night school
>>60525733
i love replica but that's a terrible choice for this chart, pretty common for people to call it just"random noises"
i puked in my mouth a little bit
>>60529548
blast yourself, those are horrible suggestions
