How the fuck do I play this thing?
>>60510708
I tried it once and broke 2 keys.
Just play the white keys, ignore the black ones.
>>60510708
its the easiest instrument to learn, and its also easy to teach youself. I dont know what to tell ya buddy.
>>60510743
Have you ever touched a ukulele?
>>60510753
yes, its MUCH easier than a uke
>>60510792
Because you have acrylic nails?
>>60510736
There are fewer black keys. You should use those instead.
>>60510818
#BLACKKEYSMATTER
>>60510814
no? because hitting the keys of the piano requires less technique than strumming a string instrument. I was playing intermediate piano music by the time i was 8 y.o. for fucks sake
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>>60510825
Its easy to write music that sounds like east asian folk tunes on the black keys
>>60510708
Take lessons if you want to learn. That is, unless you are naturally adept in music theory or music period.
>>60510856
Or you know you could use a pick.
>>60510894
A pick is another hurdle to jump over. They take time to use properly. A piano key is literally just a button you press.
>>60510825
I keked
>>60510894
its still worlds harder than hitting piano keys
you must have forgotten how long it took to strum the guitar reliably or something
>>60510910
There's more to piano technique than people think. I spent an entire semester with my piano teacher just on how to hit the keys.
>>60510926
yeah because there is no technique in attack when playing piano, sure anon
>>60510708
Get a teacher.
Get a teacher. It's great. I started like 5 weeks ago, best thing i've done all year.
>>60510856
PRODIGY
>>60510951
what part of "its still worlds harder than hitting piano keys" did I say that?
Its much easier than strumming, or at the very least my child fingers were better at piano than my adult fingers were at guitar (and the brief moment i did uke)
>>60510963
I was demonstrating that the piano was easy if anything.
>>60510708
just hit any key and go do-re-mi up the keyboard till you hit the same note. the rest will fall into place fairly easily.
>>60511028
Piano is for pussies. Violin is a real man's instrument.
>>60510708
Take lessons, study, practise, repeat for years et voilà
If necessery, leave 4chan forever
>>60511096
i never really liked piano
trombone is better
trumpet is goat
>>60510856
Top kek. Piano is way harder than guitar. Guitar is a little more physically challenging at first, but once you get the hang of it the theoretical complexity of guitar is child's play compared to what a piano can do. Guitar is easy because it works well with simple techniques that don't work as well on the keyboard.
>>60510708
What do you actually want to do, OP? I'm sure that people here would be happy to explain some basics to you, if you have specific questions.
>>60510963
SMACK MY BITCH UP
Piano is my first instrument, and i studied it for about 20 years.
Best I can say is that most music is made of groups of chords. most chords are made of stacks of thirds. thirds are typically major or minor. if you picked a note and stacked thirds on top of it you can take that collection of notes and make just about every commonly used chord ever for that key (the note you started with). never use all the notes in your stack of thirds at once, its all about which ones to omit and which ones to let sound.
root third fifth seventh ninth eleventh thirteenth
thats honestly as tall as most stacks of thirds ever need to be
>>60512246
>thats honestly as tall as most stacks of thirds ever need to be
It's as tall as any stack CAN be, diatonically.
just remember augmented triads will split an octave into 3
>>60512432
diminished thirds will split an octave into 4 even parts
>>60512447
and V7 chords fit inside each other like a harmonic fractal
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>>60511096
Real niggas just build their own damned instruments--but not before creating their own idiosyncratic music theory. Pic related.
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>>60510753
Can't we all agree that all instruments present their own sets of challenges, and that music is bullshit, anyway?
is this bad im a nooby? i just look at a scale online and play notes within the scale til something sounds nice then progress from there
>>60512556
nah you're good thats how it works
>>60512556
I disagree with >>60512576. I think that approach certainly comes with a lot of drawbacks.
"All you have to do is press keys, and shit" -Bach on how he plays the piano.
>>60512720
Bach didn't encounter a piano until 3 years before he died, at which point he only had half a dozen pieces left to write.
You're welcome!
>>60510743
>drums
I play guitar at an expert level piano at an intermediate level painist and fairly great baritone vocalist.
Guitar and Piano are both hard in that they require a ton of precision. You guys may say piano is slightly hitting one wrong note in a chord when your hands are flying can mar it, and that's pretty easy to do. Guitar is initially very difficult but I would say is less precise than piano, and people who complain about bar chords are just pussies. Singing is by far the hardest instrument. You can't even tell what you sound like to other people unless you record yourself. You can't hit all the notes. You can't see see instrument. If you drink a soda or coffee you effectively trash your instrument. And there is tons of horrible advice floating around on how to do it. So there.
Difficulty level:
Piano & Guitar- 8
Singing- 10
>>60512959
Are you good enough to beat Through the fire and flames on the hardest difficulty without misses a note?
>>60512672
what are the drawbacks? how to improve?
Pretend you're typing
>>60513326
Well, taking an improvisational approach like that, (especially one which is centred around a particular tonality) can be very limiting harmonically. A lot of the coolest harmonies are come up with because of either facing compositional problems ("I've written this cool melody in D, and this other cool melody in Abmin, how can I transition between them"), by playing around with musical concepts ("hey, chromatic mediants are pretty cool, if I use them, I bet I can make a really unstable, tense progression using only major chords"), or by accident (oh fuck, I forgot to transpose my clarinet line up a tone... hey wait, that actually makes a really cool alteration on my melody, I wonder if I can come up with a chord progression which supports that, and use it as my bridge"). These are things that very few people will do intuitively when improvising. Even just complex harmony in general doesn't come to many improvisers unless they really focus on it - you don't see many tritone subs when non-jazzers fool around on their instrument, nor do you get a whole lot of interesting resolutions to augmented sixth chords by intuition unless you're very used to playing late-romantic music.
>>60513326
As for how to improve, I'd go about setting yourself musical tasks - theoretical ones - then you can have a little bit more of a clear goal to your improvisations. A task could be something like:
- I want to stick as many weird tonicisations as I can under this simple melody and still have it make sense.
- I want to write a song where two mixed-meter passages with different denominators are played on top of one another in a polyrhythmic polymeter.
- I want to write a death-metal song in sonata form.
- I want to come up with some rhythmic hierarchy that I can use to inform some sort of 'rhythmic counterpoint', maybe even write a 'rhythm fugue'.
That sort of thing - silly little games to play with yourself, that don't necessarily need to produce anything hugely musical in it's entirety, but which can generate a whole bunch of interesting ideas and snippets which you can then work separately into their own (much more listenable) songs.
Hit all the black keys, it's the E flat minor pentatonic scale.
>>60513566
Add an E (really an Fb) and a B (really a Cb) for the Cb major scale.
Add an F (really an E#) and a C (really a B#) instead for the C# major scale.
Because pentatonics are dumb.
>>60512959
You can't define guitar as being "expert" level, because there's no real way to actual prove that. Intermediate is generally accepted as when you can easily handle bar chords and play through a good number of songs, but expert doesn't mean anything really.
>fairly great baritone vocalist
Who do you sing with? Love baritone vocals tbqh.
>>60514064
I'm not the guy you were talking to, but I'd figure that anyone who plays an instrument professionally could be considered an expert.
>>60513452
sounds nerdy
>>60514253
A little, but the point of it is exactly that - to give yourself some space to be as nerdy as possible, so that you can have a big reservoir of nerd-juice to draw from in order to lightly sprinkle your non-nerdy improvisational stuff.
>>60510736
Shit advice
>>60510910
with both it's a matter of attack. but with guitar you have harmonics
>>60514691
You can do harmonics with a piano too. It's just harder.
>>60510743
It isn't, is easier to start or playing basic chords and easy songs, but playing really good is harder than other instruments. At last more than the instruments I know how to play.
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>>>60510753
>Can't we all agree that all instruments present their own sets of challenges, and that music is bullshit, anyway?
This, the "my instrument is harder than yours" conversation is fucking retarded
I bought my first keyboard a week ago. Until now I figured out what chords mean etc. and I can play some parts of basic Fiona Apple songs.
What else should I play to improve myself? Or should I consider an instructor?
