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Nobody made a new thread again edition

Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors (wink, wink, WINK)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.
>Mixing Secrets and misc resources from previous thread
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/64bx81yayqzch/Production

Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP : posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.

Remember to check other peoples' clyp.it links to keep the thread healthy.
last thread >>60444876
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>>60473985
I wanna learn how to use fl studio and I bought pic related for 40 bucks and its alright but you know where I could learn to play piano? My friend said I need to learn 12 major scales + appregios and chord shapes and inversion. I wanna make hip hop and dream pop if that helps
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One more about FL.
Is it user friendly to record audio tracks in the latest versions of FL? I quit to Cubase and Ableton because they have it made better. But now about 4 or 5 years later what about FL?
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>>60474504
Audio recording still sucks in FL. Your only really good way of doing it is with Edison. You can try to record it in the playlist, but you don't get a waveform as you're recording so it's kind of balls.

Also I think you can pretty much multitrack only into the playlist
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>analyze famous songs to see if learn some stuff about theory
>it's all extremely basic shit
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>>60474109
great post, very cool and insightful and we will all like and respect you now
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I am the anon from yesterday starting out with Ableton for the first time.
(managed to load samples on Impulse and wrote a beat with the pencil, however I couldn't record it yet on the timeline, the beat was on the session field).

>start playing with Ableton
>excited and a sense of creativity
>make a bad noise beat
>finish the session for the day
>feel exhausted mentally
>0 creativity feels like they were drained

is this normal when you learn a new software? I didn't do much but felt like giving a lot..
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>>60474076

Actually a decent producer is better than a someone who just plays an instrument. I've learnt to play guitars and keyboards, and I can do the basics on drums. But I have more understanding on sound design, EQing, compression and mixing down than the average guitarist would. I'm still learning as well, and try to learn a new skill each week
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>>60475187

Which version of Live are you using? Version 9 onwards can record straight from session view into arrangement view. You can also copy and paste clips from session view into arrangement
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>>60475187
Forget the session view, it's for live shit and DJing, just go straight to arrangement view.
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>>60475187
>is this normal when you learn a new software? I didn't do much but felt like giving a lot..
pretty much, that feeling will lessen as you go on and learn more stuff and get more comfortable. like i told you in the other thread, don't bite off more than you can chew, it'll probably be a while before you make a finished track.
>>60475233
>Version 9 onwards can record straight from session view into arrangement view
can't all versions do this? i know hitting record and playing stuff in the session view recorded it in 8
>>60475250
>it's for live shit and DJing
it isn't only for that, i always start in session just to get ideas down before i decide what order to put them together in
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>>60475250

It can still be useful for getting ideas down. I don't use it much myself, but one of my friends dumps a load of drum samples and midi loops he's made into it, and records through session view before tidying up the arrangement by hand
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>>60475292

9 has a new pop up window so the main window will stay in session view but you can see the tracks being recorded into arrangement view
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>>60475320
huh, didnt know that. i always just drag my clips over these days
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>>60475330

I usually do that myself, although i normally start all my composing in arrangement view anyway. Only just upgraded to version 9.5 so still playing around with new features
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>>60474076
you don't know what a step sequencer is, right? synthesizers driven by step sequencers are definitely renowned tools for music production. playing an instrument physically is a great help for making music but it is definitely not a prerequisite.
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>>60475426
stop taking obvious bait seriously
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As long as you guys keep falling for it, the moron is not going to go away.

If any statement here seems too dumb to be made by anyone with internet access, assume it to be a troll.
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>>60475250

Not the same dude, but session view is still hella useful if you do sampling or want to fuck around with your clips and effects before you start arranging them. It's good to get comfortable with both I think.
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>>60475146
whoops lol this was meant for >>60474076
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>>60475512

I propose a new rule: If someone is saying stupid shit, we tell them to post a clyp.it of there most recent work or to shut up and fuck off.

If we get succeful with this it can become a meme and lead to healthier music filled threads.
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>>60475584

Great idea, although they'd probably be too retarded to do that
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>>60475584
post clyp.it fagget
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>>60475599

If they're too retarded to post a clyp.it then we ignore them. They can say whatever the want about copyright shit or how so and so doesn't make you a real musician, but if they can't post any music of their own then their opinion is invalid and should be ignored and treated as such.
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>>60475584
I like that, but I get the feeling we'll get a lot of bassboosted screamers and meme songs.

Oh well, I do like meme songs so I guess it's most likely a win-win situation.
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>>60475602

Shit you got me, but fair is fair.

https://clyp.it/xmbccewb

Be gentle senpai
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>>60475651
sampling police/10

but seriously, good job
Chrono Trigger af
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>>60475640

I like meme songs too so it's not all bad, after a while we might even get good at spotting who's actually making music and who's here to just talk shit.
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>>60475666
I'm with you, Satan trips. At the very least we get original meme material.
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>>60475071

4 chords and well placed drums will take you far senpai.
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>>60475666
>I like meme songs
>>60475675
>At the very least we get original meme material.
holy fuck you're just as bad as the shitposters
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>>60475727

>Stop liking what I don't like
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I will be on tomorrowland next year

https://clyp.it/w0nbqvze
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>>60475727
post clyp.it or just stop hating fun familia
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>>60475763

Do you even compress Bro? And you might wanna learn to use some effects like delays and reverb. Although you probably are as talented as most that play at tomorrowland.....
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>>60475727

C L Y P . I T
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>>60475780
>>60475738
>memes are fun
memes are for hacks, at least the shitposters will generate a vaguely entertaining argument occasionally.
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>>60475919

>Still no clyp.it

Confirmed for shitposter.
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>>60475926
yeah i'll get right on the demands of some idiot who is actively trying to get people top post more memes in /prod/, you are in charge here, after all
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>>60475939

NoClypIt.JPG
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>>60475950
>memesters resorting to making the same post over and over with different reaction images
shocking
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could anyone help me locate a seeded version of "Lynda Ableton 9 Essential Training" torrent?
I can't find it on my regular places and searches. Got one from QUASAR but no seeds..

>>60475233
9. I can tell it has a million useful shortcuts which is good once I get used to it.

>>60475250
That is why I was so confused at first, I was thinking that it looks more like a looping music program for the iPad generation who can drum but can't into melody and instruments but like the other anon said it can be useful to test sounds and ideas.
Depends on how you use it.

>>60475292
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>>60475960

I know I'm feeding into your bait and hatred of memes, but do you actually have any music to post or are you just mad about memes?

This is /prod/ it's about people making music, surly you didn't come here to tell us how angry pictures on an imageboard make you.
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>>60475998
oh man XD this is getting EPIC
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>hey man don't talk shit just post music you're making in the music making thread

oh the humanity
when will it end
how dare people want me to just ease up
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>>60476024

>Ever since I left city you...didn't have any clyp.its
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>>60476027
>what you don't want us actively encouraging stupid meme bullshit? POST YOUR MUSIC NOW, YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME FOR SOME REASON! I'M REALLY IMPORTANT OK? MY MOM EVEN SAID SO
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>>60476051
oh what a surprise, it's hotling bling guy from the last thread.

do you feel like too much of a special anti-reddit snowflake to just do this in r/edmprodcirlejerk and not try to make this relatively civil general thread into every other shitfest thread on 4chan?
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>>60476059

What DAW do you even use? Do you even have any gear?

>Inb4 more shitposting about memes
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>>60476077

I'm in every thread, I was >>60475651
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Can anyone ID the synth being played here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVz_Yk-Lp2c

I know there's an Orchestron sampler panning around but I want to know the main synth.
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>>60476086
>Inb4 more shitposting about memes
lol are you just trying to convince yourself that you're not the one shitting the place up at this point or what? it's not like you're gonna convince anyone else that the person arguing "no, you SHOULDN'T post stupid meme bullshit instead of real clyps" is the shitposter in this argument.

also i dont buy for a second that you're legitimately interested in what gear/daw i use
>>60476118
good thing i didnt listen to it
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>>60476183

Nah seriously, what gear and DAW are you rolling, I wanna know.
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>>60476183
At this point you're doing nothing but shit up the thread yourself.
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>>60476119

It could be a number of things, they used a lot of classic synths. But chances are it's either some kind of korg, a mini-moog or an arp odyssey
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>>60476241
what a helpful post to make
>>60476221
NO WE'RE ENEMIES, WE'RE NOT FRIENDS

ableton 9

404sx, 2 kp3's, a mini kaoss pad 2, xr20, dsr-500, and a g1on
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guys...

>>60475982
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>>60476274

There you go, I was starting to think you were just some kid who stayed home from school to shit up 4chan. We don't have to be enemies if you just post a clyp.it :^)
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>>60475982

Found one on Demonoid but it has no seeds, I'm sorry man. I would look a bit deeper for you but I'm at work.

You could always try proaudiotools, if you can manage to get an account, they usually have shit like that.
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>>60476430
cool, thanx.
There are lots of stuff on Youtube but the stupid thing at the moment is that I don't have unlimited internet at home so I have to download the videos at work or at cafes and watch them later.
some tutorials have like 40 parts.. can't deal with it.

But I learned now from the tube how to write stuff on arrangement and how to connect MIDI.
So this will keep me busy this weekend.
>Drums, FX & stuff from AL9
>tunes from my Roland through MIDI
>some additional VST maybe
>???
>profit

my body is ready.
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btw I will share this (not sure if mods allow this)

http://www.lynda.com/Audio-Mixing-Mastering-tutorials/Audio-Mixing-Bootcamp/87006-2.html
https://thepiratebay.vg/torrent/8792922

>20mins to go
>working trackers
seems legit from the preview to learn something.
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>>60475512
but it's entertaining tho
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>>60476634

I don't know why, but midi ins/ out just never seems to work for me, maybe it's my cord. I don't know.
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>>60476688
>not using midi mono
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>>60476743
jesus fucking christ
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>>60476375
>shit up 4chan
yeah, how could anybody be against quality posts like these
>>60476634
>>60476743
MOAR MEMES PLZ XD
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>>60476772
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>>60476761
it was the only time he felt like we were paying any attention to him, so now he tries to recreate that feeling any way he can
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>>60476772

Not any of those guys, but I've been following your posts, can you stop being a raging cunt for like 2 seconds? Does everything here piss you off? Maybe this is more of your speed https://www.reddit.com/
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>>60476784
KEK
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>>60476802
oh wow and the >>>/reddit/ and spongebob jpegs crowd is against me too

i'm pissing off all the children today lol
>WHY DON U LIEK MUH DANK MEMEZ???
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>>60476838
You have been shitting up these threads for several days now, you are far worse than the guy you are complaining about.
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>>60476743
>midi mono
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1ZrEza7uY

damn yall boy see this how do you come up with such an idea
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>>60476838

I don't think you're here for anything about music production at all, you're just here to be offended by everything.
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>>60476802
>Does everything here piss you off?
seriously, what the fuck do you people like about memes so much? it's just a paint by numbers formula for jokes you can run into the ground. until all these mono midi/sample police/hardware is stoopid people showed up there was actually not a lot of shitposting but now they're here and they're obviously teenagers who've never heard anybody think their internet maymay culture was anything but totally hilarious
>>60476852
>MEMEZ ARE GOD EVERYBODY LIEK MEMEZ OR GTFO
>>60476878
>by everything
and that's how i know you asshats aren't regulars, because we didn't have shit memes before you all came along nor did we have people implying that they were "everything" nor passionately defending them. also just the whole notion that somebody is "here to be offended" instead of actually discuss the topic at hand is pretty /pol/ of you
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>>60476926
Clyp.it or stop posting.
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>>60476950
like i said, i'll get right on that mr the boss of /prod/, how could anybody ignore YOUR demands? they'd simply have to be TROLLING not to jump through whatever hoop you put in front of them
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>>60476974

Different dude, but you're seriously shitting this thread up pretty bad, do you have a clyp.it or not?
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>>60477031
>YOU HAVE TO LIEK MEMEZ AND YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT WE SHOULDNT HAVE DANK MEMEZ INSTEAD OF REAL DISCUSSION BECUZ THAT MAEKS YOU A BIG POOPYHEAD. MOOOOOOOM HE WONT POST A CLYPIIIIIIIT
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>>60476974
>>60476926
>>60476838

STOP RESPONDING TO HIM.

No matter what you say, he'll just go "HURR MEEMEMEMES XDXDXD"

Why the fuck are you idiots still falling for his shit. Don't even ask him for clyp.its He won't post any music.
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>>60477094
post your clyp.it then senpai
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>>60477094
>No matter what you say, he'll just go "HURR MEEMEMEMES XDXDXD"
... because that's what we were talking about. you keep trying to say that i'm shitposting when literally the only thing i've been arguing is no, don't post more memes here and abuse clypit for stupid internet "humour" and screamers and that has just made everybody's brain explode for some fucking reason
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>>60477111

Got you.
https://clyp.it/oicjviec
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>genre music
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>>60477094
yeah, post your clypit

>inb4 sampling
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>>60477144
>filtered and stretched samples
stop
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>>60477157
see
>>60477144

No samples senpai, it's all sounds from synths tweaked in ableton to sound like toilet sounds.
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>>60477144

>>60477157 called it thb senpai
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>>60477144
aaand the fake clypits have already started

any more great ideas to make /prod/ better while you're at it, memesters?
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>>60477176
>>60477164
>>60477157

What did I sample? My MicroKorg and Ableton?
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>>60477191

Can't wait to know what I sampled. What song is it? I don't even know.
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My sample folder is a mess. What's the best application for organizing samples on windows? I particularly want a quick way to audition samples (in one click), delete bad ones and maybe open multiple windows or panels to easily move samples from folder to folder. Waveform display would be cool too.
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working on a song atm but I have no idea where to go from here.
https://soundcloud.com/user-602595993/its-snowing-outside/s-clFuy

thoughts??
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>>60477340
CLYP.IT OR BUST IT
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https://clyp.it/mervyjft
feedback? Also, where can I go with these?
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>>60477329
In Ableton you could just slap all of those samples in the session mode and just trigger them as you go to decide what's worth keeping and what's worth deleting.

I don't know what programs you're working with honestly, but I'm sure FL has some sort of sampler thing, I know Bitwig definitely does. Worst case scenario you can just load them up in audacity or windows media player(kek)
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>>60477329
>>60477392
>I particularly want a quick way to audition samples (in one click), delete bad ones and maybe open multiple windows or panels to easily move samples from folder to folder. Waveform display would be cool too
you can do that all in the file browser in ableton, no need to bring the samples into the actual session
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>>60477255

What did I sample? Someone tell me :^)
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>>60477408
drums at the very least, probably vocals as well, although it could just be some kind of talk effect wankery pitched down also
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>>60477406

Yeah you're right actually, you can do it in the file explorer with the little wav thing at the bottom. I suggested throwing it in session view, because I use the APC 40 and can just trigger the clips off that and then start at the huge wav form thing at the bottom.

Now I'm curious, does deleting the file from the file explorer delete it off your comp is that not how that works?
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>>60477408
>implying people can't tell was is samples and what is synthesis.

you just down pitched a rap song.

>oh shit, my nigga
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>>60477442

Is it sampling if you used a drum kit that came with a pack for Ableton? The vocals are sampled however. You caught me there...but from where?

I'll go a step further, is my whole song shit due to using sounds from these sources, like is that really a big nono
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>>60477340
>>60477348
fair enough. https://clyp.it/aayu2per
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>>60477487

2/10 meme shit
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>>60477448
yup, it deletes permanently from ableton's file browser.

i actually was just using ableton's file browser to clean up all the albums i downloaded for samples from sharethreads and whatever else that i never ended up using
>>60477475
i dunno, some people call playing drum samples sampling but that makes everything besides recording physical instruments or synthesizing yourself fall under sampling which is generally not what most people refer to when they say sampling
>but from where?
that i don't know lol, i just threw part of your clyp in my kaoss pad and sped it up and it sounded pretty incoherent
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>tfw too worried about not clearing my samples to release anything
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>>60477457

Nah, the song I sampled isn't a rap song. It's an acapella of this. I don't know where you're getting "oh shit, my nigga" from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asLRL5r2f-E
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>>60477523
how obvious are they? how obscure are the artists? what kind of release are you talking about?
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>>60477523
Just don't use samples
it's that easy
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>>60477620
>:^) XDD
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>>60476743
there is no such thing as mono midi
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>>60477515

Thanks for answering both my questions man. I would harass you for a clyp.it, but you're a pretty stand up guy.
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>>60477643
everybody knows that, it's a stupid forced meme
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>>60477149

What's that?
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>>60477705
Music made with the intent of falling into a specific genre.
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>>60477751

Wouldn't that mean all music is genre music?
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Sup /prod/

if my audio interface has optical/adat in, does that mean I can add 8 more channels of audio inputs by getting a cheap ADC?
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>>60477392
FL plays samples when you click them in the file open dialogue too, but then you can't move or delete them until they finish. So if you've got a 10 second crash cymbal and you see half a second in that it blows, you need to wait 9.5 seconds before you can delete it.
Sure, you can work something out with Foobar or such, but generally it'll always take several clicks/keystrokes to play files and several to delete or move them.
Five vs six is irrelevant, but one vs multiple is a world of difference.
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>>60477824
yes
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>>60477851
will they all work as independent channels so i can record one or multiple channels simultaneously?
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>>60477149
>genre changes halfway through the song.
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>>60477763
Lots of bands say they don't worry about genres and just do whatever feels natural.
It just so happens their result fits snugly into a genre, but hey man, don't worry about labels or whatever.
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>>60477927
Twice as bad, then.
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>>60477958
>song changes genres multiple times while retaining musical quality
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>>60478006
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>>60477886
8 channels on 44.1 and 48 kHz, for 88.2 and 96 kHz adat uses the s-mux protocol which multiplexes two channels into one so it's only 4 channels then
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>buy records to sample from salvation army
>find out they're super religious and anti-gay
gross, why did i give them my money?
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>>60478006
This has never happened.
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>>60478683
A sample is a sample senpai
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>>60479318
What is a sample?
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What's the base minimum required to record guitar that doesn't sound shit? I want to get a multitrack recorder, but can't afford one now. I only have a real tone cable and a medium-tier USB mic, and obviously guitar and an amp. Should I just do everything with VST plugins?
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>>60479371

You take a sound from something, anything. For example the opening piano rythym you like on a record. You load that into your DAW or whatever you use. Then you cut it down, chop it up, manipulate it, add to it, take away from it but most importantly make it nothing like the original and don't use it the way it's used in the original piece. It's help to not let your whole new song just be the sample, add as much of your own to it as you can. The sample should just be for giving you ideas.

What I like to do is to slice my shit to a new midi track and then mess around with triggering different parts of it on my launchpad. Or I'll do something like I did with the acapella of >>60477528
to make
>>60477144
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>>60479430
>Should I just do everything with VST plugins?
yes, get an interface with a hi-z input and use guitar rig, s-gear and all that other nice stuff
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>>60479430
Guitar Rig is good.

Maybe try something like this:
Dry Guitart > DAW Track 1 with Guitar RIg > Output to Guitar Amp > Mic > DAW Track 2 with subtle EQ/COMP
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>>60479491
I thought of buying an USB preamp, though I'd have to invest even more money then. I guess I could do much more with it. Guess I'd also need to flesh out more for a decent amp and something to mic it with
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>>60479465

OH MAN XD IT'S EPIC MEMES GUY AGAIN
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>>60479318
i guess so, i'm still gonna go to the record stores from now on because the thrift shops either have terrible selection or terrible moral principles (and still a pretty bad selection, certainly not enough to make it worth giving them more of my money)
>>60479568
i dont think that's who you think it is
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>>60479613
I was just trying to answer your question about sampling either way, before someone else goes full copyright police on you about it.

But damn I though you were joking about that whole can't give them my money again due to their beliefs thing. At least they have terrible selection so that adds more weight to it.
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>>60479613

>memesters policing other memesters because they don't have a proper argument
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is the scarlett 2i4 decent for a beginner?
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>>60479706
yes
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>>60479706

Yeah it's pretty alright, It solid for the price and what it does, if you get it play around with your settings and find a comfortable spot for your sample rate and all that for the best latency.
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>>60479668
>answer your question about sampling
that wasn't me that asked "what's a sample?"
>>60479700
>people aping my usage of the word memesters in these threads to try and call me a memester
you don't have permission to sample my posts
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>>60479706

>Using meme audio interfaces
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>>60479749
>>60479732
thanks a lot
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>>60479770

>"OMG XDDD DON"T SAMPLE MUH POSTS"
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>>60479811
man, trying and failing to bait people on /prod/ is all you have in life isn't it?

that's so depressing to think about
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>>60479843

>OMG GET A LIFE YOURE BAITING IS RUINING OUR EPIC MEMEEES
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>tfw one of the best artists alive but still unrecognized
Maybe after I die people will discover me.
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everybody stay still, no sudden movements, just look the other way until they think that we died and move on looking for other prey
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>>60479871

Few questions:
1) do you have a marketable image?
2) Are you really "One of the best musician alive"
3) or are you that guy that's posting about memes and being an asshole?

Also can we get a clyp.it of some goat shit?
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>>60479914

>LELEL MUH ANIMAL PLANET MEMES
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Any /marketinggod/ willing to help here?
>tfw make music
>tfw nobody gives a shit

How do i promote my music? Does this question even belong in this thread?
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>>60479930
1) no, I'm an autist that hates social contact
2) no, I'm just memeing but I do think I have potential
3) no

I would post a clyp but if would be too deep for you guys.
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>>60480028

>>>/biz/

Just joking, you gotta market yourself, man. If you're really that serious maybe you can hire an agent or some shit (If it even works like that). Also is your soundcloud booming number-wise? Don't post it we only want clyp.its here.
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>>60480028
>get soundcloud
>post stuff on soundcloud
>post soundcloud on /mu/
>wait until feedback
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>>60480028
make a video game and put your music in it
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>>60480066

>I would post a clyp but if would be too deep for you guys.

Shit like this is why you don't have buzz, my friend.
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>>60480084

>XDXDXDXD MAKE LE EBIN VIDYA GAEM :^)
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>>60480066
>jbenitex confirmed
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>>60480084
>maybe I should sell my musical expertise to indie game companies... Let's check the classifieds
>"Indie dev looking for people! Need 2 artists, one animator, 3 programmers. Musician? Lol no we will just take it from free music sites"
>"MASSIVE PRESET KID WILLING TO WORK FOR FREE"
>"I downloaded Fruity Loops and some cool VSTs, message me :)"
>ad infinitum
Seriously how did this happen
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we're almost there guys
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>>60480072
My soundcloud has hardly any followers. I have about 3 tracks there.
Shoud i create a twitter or other social media? Every time i tried marketing any of my stuff it simply didn't work.

>>60480082
I don't wan't to be a shill

>>60480084
Surprisingly i'm already making a video game individually, meaning i have to make it's code, art and music, and since i'm shit at marketing, my game will probably be unrecognized, just like my music.
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>>60475187
Consider any time you're working with software, you're learning.
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>>60480388
So everyone in the soundcloud thread is a shill now?
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>>60480388
You're not a shill when you openly market your own fucking product
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>>60480388
Comment on peoples work, like their stuff, repost it. They are very likely to check out your stuff if you do which in turn will get you out there. You could do social media but it isn't necessary if you just want to have more reach with soundcloud.
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>>60480466
>>60480527
Didn't mean it that way. I just don't want to force my stuff on others.

>>60480580
Thanks, man.
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hi /prod/

I have still no idea of how to make good ambient and no one gave me a good answer so far

https://clyp.it/3mxfzcft

Also it's mixed poorly.
Help.
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>>60480882

Also what is happening in the thread guys


>>60477360


>mervvjft

0:33 is truly horrible anon
It was good until that point - well i guess, i hate trap so my jugment isn't really objective

>>60475651

Nice
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>>60480973
>Also what is happening in the thread guys
it's over for now, that's the important part
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>>60480999

>XDXDDXDXD LE EPIC ITS OVER FOR NOW MEMEMEME HUE HUE HUE
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>>60480973
>>60480999
There's an autist with a lot of free time very dedicated to shitting up the thread. it's probably the same guy as always, the one who tries to get us to allow Soundcloud here and all. Ignore him if possible or just wait a little and he'll tire himself out.
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>>60481389

why exactly?
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>>60481455
Don't bother. Report and ignore.
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>>60481467
k
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can someone explain me what the fuck compression is/does?
in ableton slang if possible pls
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>>60481604
Knob go spin spin, sound go boom boom
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>>60481604

I'm interested in this as well, I have a loose idea of what it is, but I'm probably super wrong.
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>>60481639
isnt supposed to do the opposite?
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>>60481604
or link a youtube video that explains it in human in christian
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who /cubase/ here
i dont tbqh
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>>60481604
>>60481639
>>60481646
Compression sets a limit to the volume in db, while still maintaining "percieved volume".
You can increase the "percieved volume" without going past the volume limit, so you can make the sound seem louder without actually being louder in db.

This seems like magic, but you have to be careful, because if you overdo it, it will shit up the quality of the sound, kinda like static.


You can also set a limit on the volume of one track when another track plays, so one track lowers in volume when another one plays. This is called sidechaining.

With sidechaining you can reduce the volume of the lead when the kick hits, for example, opening room for the kick and making it hit 'harder'
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who /glue compressor masterrace/ here
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>>60481870
i tried sidechaining with it and i didnt really like it, but i like to group various tracks and throw it on to "glue" them
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>>60481819
now, how does that apply to any of these two bad boys
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>>60481819
>Compression sets a limit to the volume in db
wouldn't that be a limiter?
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>>60481987
a limiter is basically a compressor with a fixed 1:infinity ratio
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>>60481870
What's the difference between a glue compressor and a normal compressor?
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>>60481952
I have no idea how to work with a glue compressor, but i think i can help you with the normal compressor.

>tresh
Treshold for when to start compressing the sound. If the sound volume goes above the treshold, it's reduced.
>out
you can increase or decrease the volume in db of the sound thats being outputted.
>ratio
How much the volume is lowered after the treshold. If it's 2:1, for each 2 db above the treshold, the compressor outputs only one.
>attack and release
attack and release for the compressor's functionality

If you want to enable sidechain click the button on the upper left of the compressor, then select the track that will determine the volume of this one on "audio from"
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>>60482177
idk
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>>60481753
i use cubase 5 because i cant torrent a newer one :^)

anyways can you guys help tell me if the mix on this is ok?
https://clyp.it/hls33v5z
specifically the sub bass, need to make sure its not too loud/clipping or anything
pref someone with a subwoofer/good monitors listen as i only have headphones atm
thanks guys <3
also wow clyp compression ruins it so much
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>>60482401
the mix as in balance, timbres, rooms and so on is pretty nice.
it's boomy, but I guess that's what you're going for
it could use a tad more high end in my opinion, sounds a bit veiled

listened on wall mounted atc mains and ns10
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>>60482524
thanks dude
yeah idk why but a lot of my tunes come out a bit 'veiled' lately lol
i think its coz i cut the highs out with decapitator on channels a lot to give them a more lo fi feel, might just eq on the master or something.
And yeah it's dubstep so it's meant to be boomy
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>>60478006
Relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovzel1oUFcA
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>>60481952
>>60482177
Compressor is a regular compressor, glue compressor is modeled after analog compressors.
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>>60482524
>listened on wall mounted atc mains and ns10

Does your studio computer tag that on the end like iPhones with emails that say "sent from my iPhone" and you're just too lazy to delete that? Or are you just some sort of jackass?
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>>60475763
Oh my fucking god dude add some reverb to those drop chords at least
Holy shit hate to sound cliche but you need some compression in there and more importantly you need to learn how to properly mix down synths along with you drums, they're all over the place
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>>60483311
the daw computers are not connected to the internet so, no
I put that because he was specifically asking for good speakers
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>>60477329
Mate you want the equivalent of Audio finder on the Mac. I think snapper might be cross platform.
Audio finder has been a really good purchase for me. It can search and find duplicate audio files so you can delete multiple files, has a decent waveform/audio editor, you can easily tag all your samples it's really handy.
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>>60475815
>>60483360
do you faggots not understand when you are on a big label you just have to get tunes to demo quality. Mix engineers do the rest.
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>>60478683
Yeah they are religious, but who cares, they set up soup kitchens for homeless people and do other nice stuff too.
>>
Damn the new Simpler in Ableton 9.5 is the tits. I've just been using it to make breakbeats. Anyone else got any tips to share about the new version?
>>
Serious not trolling question. Why doesn't vintagesynth ever list black guys under the used by section on their page? Like the 909 doesn't have Jeff Mills listed, but they have rando obscure artist's listed.
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>>60484516
Because Jeff mills never used a 909
>he's abused a few though
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>>60484516
No quotas on the synth world.

But seriously, yes, the use just needs to be relevant. LTJ Bukem is listed on the D-50 page. Also, the site hasn't been updated for quite a while.
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guys!

any advice to isolate monitors from their ground... Is rubber a good alternative? I dont want to use foam pads
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>>60484855
styrofoam
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>>60484943
wat
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>>60484855
Use empty egg cartons if you got any, make sure your cartons can hold your monitors.
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>>60484961
>This memeing faggot saying wat
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>>60475071
>western harmonic theory
>anything other than already extremely basic shit
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>>60484943
>>60485055
i think you think you're making fun of me when you do this but you're really just shitting and pissing all over yourself
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>>60484855
mine are sitting on cinder blocks on my desk
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Is this thread going to devolve into old /jp/ tier shitposting?
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>>60485338
i think we're down to just the one guy who is doing the greentexting. i dont even know what he's trying to accomplish with it anymore
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>>60485338
>>60485383
It's just one guy being a complete asshole, report and ignore.
>>
is it safe to bump?
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>>60475187
Literally me a few years ago.
It took me years to finally finish a song, and god damn was it bad. I spent maybe 3 hours on it and it was literally 2 8 second midi clips looped with a really shitty kick drum. 1 year later, I'm finishing a song a week, and also just "finished" my magnum fucking opus. The only way to start having fun producing and making music is you have to spend tons of time learning and accepting how bad you are. Just keep working and everything will get easier, and you won't want to stop working.
>>
>>60482697
pretty cool senpai
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https://clyp.it/no4zjcyr im a piece of shit please critique this
>>
>>60486857
what is wrong with you? Nobody here thinks you're funny, so does acting like a mongoloid on an anonymous image board really the only way to amuse yourself now? Have you sunken this low that the only joy you can get from life is by acting like a faggot in one of the few serious discussion threads on 4chan.com? Destroy yourself, before I strike you down once and for all.
>>
>>60486956
report and ignore
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https://clyp.it/cnnsxebc
feedback me senpaitachi

>>60486856
not really feeling some of that stutter shit
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>>60487071
is it just that theres too much of it?
also wow i didnt notice how terribly the drums were mixed in this

your thing sounds pretty cool, i dont like that phaser in the beginning though.
>>
>>60487178
no it's really just at 1:00 it sounds kinda off to me, idk.
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>>60487118
>sound like the idiot shitting up the thread
>get mistaken for the idiot shitting up the thread
it's not complicated, and fuck off with your
>/prod/
>serious
it is serious, not in the way that you're trying to pretend it's being meant, but it in the way that it's more real discussion than "/b/: /mu/ edition" in most of the threads
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>>60487118
even if you are not taking /prod/ serious, most of us are. This is not a thread to act like a faggot and shitpost in.

you have so many other options if that's what you're looking for:
>>>/b/
most /mu/ threads besides this one
>>>/a/
>>>/v/
>>>/tv/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/mlp/
>>>/trash/
>>>/s4s/

now pick one of those and stay there.
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>>60473985
Finally got my hackintosh for coreaudio and a decent i5 for muh production.
So how does one get started with logic/ableton?
Just really the basics like timing/beats and quantization would be nice to begin with
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>>60484855
I never thought of this myself until recently but it's so simple it's almost stupid: use the Styrofoam it came with. Think about it: it's literally cut out to fit the speaker size. Looks like a ghetto setup but it does the job
>>
I worked up the courage to go analog, and decided to buy an arturia microbrute. Now ill be one of those cool analog ELITISTS

>>60487286
>>60487372
Report and ignore
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>>60487211

is this (and the drum mix) better?
puu dot sh /lrOVT/adb3328461.mp3
why the fuck do puush links get marked as spam
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Just Ignore this nigger from now on guys.
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>>60483680
Yes, I've been told in the past this is what I need.
But both are mac only and the windows options I've seen didn't look so great.

What's a nice noob-friendly java sound library? I tried to whip something up in Processing, but minim won't play many of my wav files for some reason.
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>>60487514
post a clpy.it of your latest work, faggot.
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>>60474076
I fucking do, i play keyboard,bass and guitar, the only thing i play virtually is the drums.

Its all about the genre idiot, you dont play a organic bass on EDM.
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When it comes to mixing, are headphones the better choice?
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>>60489159
You should use more than just headphones to mix, Try playing the mixed song in your car stereo or your monitors if you have any.
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>>60489195
Yea I love doing the car test. I mainly use my monitors but I kinda want to cop a pair headphones because I feel like my mixing would be more accurate. Anyone have some recs for 80-120 price range headphones?
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>>60489239
I'm considering purchasing a pair of audio Technica ATH-M40x
They are perfect for monitoring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udLoAV7YmjA
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>>60489159

I'm a poorfag who can only do headphones, so I wanna say headphones, but realistically I mean think about it, monitors have to be really nice for hearing every little thing going on in a song.
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>>60489309
Ya I was actually thinking those or sennheiser 280s
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I'm using this mixer at the moment and I'm a newbie to FX Send/Returns

Am I meant to be feeding the signal out via the FX Send output and through effects pedals/rigs/etc and back into the mixer via the Stereo Aux Return inputs?

The manual makes no effort to even explain it
>>
Anybody here know about sound proofing? I'm looking at some Prostudio 12x12x2" foam square packs on amazon to treat my room and a ATS acoustic panel to put in the 1st reflection zone.

Any advice on treating a room would be appreciated from any anon that is knowledgeable in acoustic treatment.
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Does this track have any redeemable qualities so far?
https://clyp.it/nholwl3d
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>>60489870
>control panel
>add or remove programs
>fl studio
>uninstall

>>60489985
yes, it reminds me of Theme From Space Jam

>>60489239
>80-120 price range
nothing decent until about 200

>>60489407
>>60489309
all of these are trash.
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Anyone here done sound for games before? Either music or sound effects. How'd that go for you?


>>60489870
I made this guide, I can answer some questions if you have any
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>>60490968
I have. but I'm fairly a beginner so it's pretty overwhelming. I've been producing for almost 3 years and it's hard to get full tracks done sometimes
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>>60491135
What kind of game was it? How'd you connect with whoever was making the game or hired you?
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>>60489615
>Am I meant to be feeding the signal out via the FX Send output and through effects pedals/rigs/etc and back into the mixer via the Stereo Aux Return inputs?
yes
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>>60490070
>ACOUSTIC TREATMENT IS FOR LE FL STUDIO KIDZ
why be shitty to people for asking questions? you aren't even doing it in a clever or original way
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Sup guys I was wondering if someone could tell me how fucked I am.

I spent $50 on an M Audio Axiom 49 midi controller at a thrift store. It was in the original box and couldn't help but take the chance. I tried using it on my macbook and the keyboard powers up via the usb, however the computer doesn't recognize the keyboard at all it seems. I even tested the midi signal if it was sending any information to the computer and got nothing. The keyboard itself lights up and is reponsive to all the keys, pads, faders and knobs on its own little screen. I'm running Mavericks 10.9 so I'm hoping it's incompatibility issues and not hardware. U guys got any clue?
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>>60491483
Have you installed the drivers?
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>>60491268
ty
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Local pawn shop has a Roland MC-307 on sale for a pretty good price. Is it worth getting?
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