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Happy 24th Birthday to Loveless!
Favorite track?
Any favorite covers?
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>Best
I only Said
>Worst
Loomer
>Overrated
Sometimes
>Underrated
Touched
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Only the first track is good
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>>60152765
I actually agree
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>>60152765
>>60152916
>hating the rest of the album
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>>60152731
I wonder if audio engineers have nightmares about Loveless.
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>>60152765
You probably don't "get" the album if you actually believe that.

>>60152731
To Here Knows When > Soon > Blown A Wish > I Only Said > Sometimes > Come In Alone > Only Shallow > Touched > Loomer > What You Want > When You Sleep

I've recently gained a new found appreciation for Come In Alone. The track sounds like a kaiju bursting out of the ground in the middle of Tokyo with chains and swinging weights hanging off it's back. That bit at 0:58 sounds like a bellowing roar imo.

Also really been really fond of that gentle pulsating texture at around 4:40 on Sometimes.
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>>60152970
I know one who hates it because of the mixing and how it clips.
>he doesn't get the gaze
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>>60152765
(〒︿〒)
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>>60152731
Yellow Loveless vs Blue Loveless?

I prefer yellow, but blue has a lot going for it since most tracks have a very different vibe from the original.
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http://webeexit11.bandcamp.com/
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Yesterday I tried to write a paper to this album, but I ended up jacking off in a library. How is /shugazi/?
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Does True Widow put on good shows?
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Has anyone listened to Technicolor Teeth's non-Teenage Pagans stuff?
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why aren't beatmakers sampling Windy and Carl and lovesliescrushing yet?
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>>60156764
nice, I'm ok not horrible
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>>60156764
/shugazi/ hasn't been too active recently. I'd blame the lack of shares.
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>>60157370
I blame you for being a loser actually.
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>>60157387
who doesn't
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>>60157339
I actually just started a track sampling loveliescrushing
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>>60157418
good job I'm proud of you post it here when you're done pls
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>>60156764
>jacking off in a library
Dude how do we stop this madness? I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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>"I believe that the so-called shoegaze movement of bands is essentially just a gang of pretentious art school kids trying to create noise, but they're putting emphasis on some sort of cool, mysterious, sexy factor by obscuring the vocals and creating some hazy, druggy "atmosphere". Every one of these bands seem to have this woman in the front, acting provocatively on stage, wearing tons of makeup, and making some type of peculiar moaning tribal sex noise instead of singing legible lyrics. Underneath all the noise and obscured vocals, it's just your basic pop-rock, just pure bubblegum pop that's been peddled on your local radio station by the record company for the past 50 years. Same song structure, same basic premise at the core of it. But since there's a loud reverb-laden guitar it's so deep, so original, so creative.

>When people regard a group like Slowdive or Lush or Jesus and Mary Chain or My Bloody Valentine as the pinnacle of noise, or call these groups innovative and challenging in any way, I throw up in my mouth a little. People regard this mindless pop as noise, instead of listening to an actual noise group like The Jesus Lizard or Girls Against Boys. This shit is the reason that the development of British music has stagnated over the past 15 years, and will continue to do so."
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>>60157933
It just happens I guess. I jacked off to /h/ on a library laptop
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>>60158186
who said that
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>>60158186
That pasta never took the quality of melodies and the way they work off one another into account. At it's worst, shoegaze is noisy pop-rock. At it's best, it's a sonic collage that allows instrument layers to take on different textual/timbral characteristics from their interactions with one another.

Do you honestly believe Radiohead, The Smashing Pumpkins, Brian Eno, and The Cure looked up to/praised an album with no substance?
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>>60158316
I think it just never took off cause most of it is factually wrong, and not that many people care enough to bash shoegaze in particular.
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>>60158186
>Slowdive or Lush
>the pinnacle of noise
wha
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guys what is some essential fall-core shoegaze?
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>>60158560
Autumns Grey Solace
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what the fuck
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What are some drone-y shoegaze albums/bands, preferably sad
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>>60155414
Got a download link for this?
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>>60159838
When I See the Sun Only Shines on TV by Nadja
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Fav track : When you sleep ( its the song where it really clicked for me)

Fav cover : Boris - Somtimes
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>>60156764
what is this even
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>>60156764
>>60158218
this wasn't you I caught was it?
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Guys it's my birthday too
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anyone going to Cosmosis festival next March? It's gonna be the first LSD and the search for God date
>also BJM, JAMC, Deafheaven
The website is slow as fuck updating
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>>60161793
Nah, made sure I was in a corner
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>>60153216
>The track sounds like a kaiju bursting out of the ground in the middle of Tokyo with chains and swinging weights hanging off it's back.
holy shit man
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Frendly eminder that MBV Sounds better when they aren't pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8kjbjx2EUw
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>>60165316
>thinks noise pop isn't pop
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This Is Your Bloody Valentine is amazing
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So what all was that supposed Slowdive announcement today?
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I hope I'm not the only one excited for the new Besnard Lakes album
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>>60160795
Oh wow this is great, are the other albums similar?
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What are some good shugazi albums that have come out this year? AOTY contenders?
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>>60158186
>People regard this mindless pop as noise, instead of listening to an actual noise group like The Jesus Lizard
How does anyone fall for this bait?
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>>60167844
Split between Spectres - Dying and PSUB - Everything Else Matters. I prefer Everything Else Matters desu.
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>>60152731
best track is obviously when you sleep desu
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>>60152731
I can never seem to remember most of the titles for loveless songs.
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>>60157370
ded genre
ded thred
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we can all agree that Croatan is the best track right?
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>>60171215
What the fuck is the difference?
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>>60171215
Croatan has some really pretty feedbacky sections but some really annoying tones in some parts. Best track is either haruspex or overnight.
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>>60171252
>~<
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Is Jesu's s/t industrial metal?
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>>60172946
Man/Woman just sounds like Godflesh.
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>>60172263
retarded?
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>>60152731
How did they make Loveless? How do people make such music in general?
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You guys heard the The Antlers cover of When You Sleep? Damn it's so good. Feels literally like being stoned on hash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mknMMuwB1Ys
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what is the best blackgaze album of the year
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>>60175828
Goddamn
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Good Blackgaze?

I love Amesoeurs if that helps.
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>>60177483
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>>60175828
That is noice.
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>>60175471
Kevin Shields was super obsessive about his sound. He changed his strings like 3 times a day during the sessions cause he could tell when it was affecting the sound.
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>>60175471
www.polymathperspective.com/?p=2997
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>>60175471
He made all the songs originally for acoustic guitar and then he just pissed about with his amassed pedals for 2 years and voila - Loveless. Seriously though it takes time and artistic vision. Kevin knew the sound he wanted and that only comes from making music upon music and having a good ear. Without those two you generally end up making a clusterfuck of a song or just something plain mediocre (look at early mbv which is by no means 'bad' but...).
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>>60175828
mmm i don't think i'll ever find a bad cover of when you sleep because it's just such a good song and so simple to replicate.
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http://youtu.be/-odF-y1nQvw

Is this the best song?
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>>60152731

I don't particularly care for any of them. Not that it's a bad album, it's just too cohesive in approach for anything to stick out to me.

>>60158186

>it's just effect-laden, reverby pop rock

I'm totally ok with this view. Why would anyone expect a rock riff to be so deep, so original, so creative? Can't it just sound awesome and have that be good enough? Whoever wrote this sounds like a confused tryhard, calling shoegaze musicians pretentious while simultaneously criticizing the music for not being pretentious enough.

>>60158560
>>60158839

This, very much this. I was actually going to direct people to In The Depths of A Darkened Forest in the last thread but couldn't find any functioning archive links and was too lazy to upload a new one myself... but everyone should go listen to that while watching the leaves fall.

>>60175471

Google glide guitar, pretty sure there are several tutorials floating around these days.
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>>60158186
why do people act as though The Jesus Lizard is difficult to listen to? Half of their stuff sounds cheesy as fuck anyway.
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>>60175471
>>60179614

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2bQbbO8-gA

This one has a pretty bad words-to-content ratio but gives a very clear explanation of how to set up the guitar and adjust your technique for it.

>>60179660

Is that a thing? I've never heard anyone say that before that rant, I've only ever heard of them rightfully referred to as fairly accessible noise rock.
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>>60181100
The text reminds me of some middle aged office chump trying to jazz up his powerpoint
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pretty
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emma is qtest
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>>60182739
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>>60182783
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>>60182808
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>>60182819
pretty
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>>60159890
https://mega.co.nz/#!SsBVFZjD!LVvW075Wjici_gh9Mbi8l8tr4vIYmqfDX8YLF-A4cJs
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>>60182808
pretty
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>>60163004
I am now, thx for the heads up bb.
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>>60155454
blue is much better
the songs on yellow feel like covers of the original (not including the when you sleep ofc)
blue has more creative and original songs imo
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>>60158560
constance by southpacific
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>>60186709
what that's either winter or summer
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someone tell me about nadja
which albums are good
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>>60186758
like most of them
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>>60186903
there are so many, which are the best
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https://barlow.bandcamp.com/album/barlow-naked-ant

new barlow
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>>60187372
Apparently I haven't checked on Barlow since January 2014. How's their stuff been?
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PSUB tour when?
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>>60182783
pretty
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snfcrm
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I gave the new Deerhunter album a shot and its actually the first time I've ever liked a Deerhunter album this much. Good shit you should check out
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>>60187061
try the remastered Touched or Skin Turns to Glass to start.
"When I see the Sun" has some great covers.
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>>60152762
>wow im so edgy and like all the shittiest songs
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>>60187732
Never in America fan. ;__;
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>>60161602
yah google image searcg returns nothing
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>>60189666
Senpai
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>>60189677
lovesliescrushing - xuvetyn
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if i like Kairon; IRSE!, what should i listen next?
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>>60189666
Damn... I really liked their first album and their new single is promising.
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>>60190838
faaake
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>>60190944
is it a band name or what?
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>>60191034
I was saying that vaporwave thing is fake
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This is pretty much Ulrich Schnauss meets Diiv.

It's aite.
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>>60191055
idk
maybe it's
i found the thread on reddit
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Guys I snapped off my tremolo bar and now there's a little piece of it screwed into my guitar that I can't get out. What do I do?
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>>60186758
Ones I've listened to and enjoyed:

Touched
Radiance of Shadows
When I See the Sun Always Shines On TV
Dagdrom
Queller
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>>60191169
get some epoxy and another screw, glue it to the broken bit still screwed in, carefully unscrew both of them once everything is completely set.
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>>60191214
I got When I See the other day and I like it but I'm worried the others will be too metal for me. do they all have a unique sound?
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>>60191245
Just listen to them on their bandcamp dude
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>>60191387
those 20 minute songs don't buffer super well for me
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>>60191245
I'm not sure what you'd consider "too metal". Overall, I've never found Nadja albums to be particularly varied, which is not necessarily a bad thing because they're decent enough at what they do. I would say that if you're familiar enough with the original songs to recognize and decide whether or not you liked the spin they put on the covers in WIStSASOTV, you'd probably like the albums listed. Radiance of Shadows has a bit more of an ambient edge to it, Queller is a bit more sludgy than normal, but these are subtle shifts within the Nadja discography.
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I havent been here since /nbbmn/ started. Anything new come out yet that I may have missed? When does the Sunny Day in Glasgow drop?
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Yo why didn't anyone tell me how perfect this song is? Wouldn't have put off this band for so long had I known this shit was coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTTs3WuPU0U
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>>60152731
What the fuck is this meme-genere, and why do you pretend it's relevant to that project?

You guys seem to a shitload of really good bands into this "genre" that you've identified as "hey look, a buncha good bands!" Stop it. Your raging homosexuality is gross.
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>>60192578
THICK
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>>60192688
FUZZY
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>>60192710
GAZE
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ded genre

ded thred
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>>60171212
>>60194608
ded general
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>>60194630
good
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>>60192578
>that project
where did this pasta originate?
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damn this is thick nigga
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Have we all listened to this yet?
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>>60166853

Hash Jar Tempo - Well Oiled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1vWvetsk7Y
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>>60196394
I did. It was okay-ish.
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anyone going to the new parish in 2 weeks?
I already booked a flight to the US but I don't really know what to expect from it
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>>60155414
this isn't really shoegaze, it's also really annoying
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>>60166723
they're coming out with a new album? nice
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>>60186725
disagree, was walking to class just this morning listening to it. Raining, leaves on the trees - very nice.
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>>60196394
what an awful album cover
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4fixLtiY2U
What do you guys think about Tacoma Radar?
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I really like Sleeping Peonies' smudgy guitar sound but I hate the vocals.
Recs?
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Is this proto-dream pop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg
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>>60201454
I wouldn't say so
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>>60201454
Is Candy Says proto-dream pop?
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>>60203317

no but Sunday Morning probably is
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>>60179798
so that entire video basically said
>bend the tremolo arm to a comfortable angle

what a dumbass
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>>60201454
>>60203317
Dream pop is such an ill-defined genre, you could make an argument that tons of albums were proto-dreampop. Was Debussey proto-dreampop? The Kinks? The Carpenters? ABBA? Hildegard von Bingen? Probably not, in any of those cases. But one could make a coherent argument for any of them that would be difficult to refute.
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>>60201454
Wow i realised I haven't listened to Blue Oyster Cult at all. I really enjoyed that song though. What are some of their best albums?
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I missed the bus, any shoegaze for this?
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>>60205395
Or noise pop
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>>60204295
Their debut desu
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>>60205395
Drop Nineteens - Delaware is essential missed-the-buscore.
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>>60207085
Thanks, haven't listened to that in a long while. Anyone who isn't into Reberrymemberer can choke on cum
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>>60205551
Skywave's Echodrone
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stop
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Ride is emotionless garbage. I don't see how anyone could like them.

They're not even real shoegaze. They're just simple three chord Britpop with nursery rhyme lyrics a la Blur with some added effect pedals.
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>>60212135
I believe you're thinking of Chapterhouse or Lush
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>>60212272
>Chapterhouse
I like Autosleeper
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Holy Shit!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7yMQRwFVNA
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>>60213573
cool
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>>60213573
that rendition of blue skied an clear is actually beautiful

can't wait for their new album
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>>60212135
Most shoegaze is just trite pop-level garbage hidden under walls of noise
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>>60215458

But I like trite pop-level garbage hidden under walls of noise
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is there any shoegaze without electric guitars?
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>>60215797
I'm not sure that's possible, although I do remember hearing about an a capella lovesliescrushing album.
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>>60212272
>Lush
> emotionless garbage

Do you wanna' fight?
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>>60215797
Ulrich Schnauss
A Strangely Isolated Place or Goodbye
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>>60216158
good thing this band had a pretty face so people could deflect criticism with it
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I've been listening to this song a lot lately. The drumming is brilliant imo.

https://soundcloud.com/forevrforevr/contest
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>>60155414
y do ppl keep sharing this in shoegaze threads.
its not shoegaze. like at all
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>>60216872
It's noise pop
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>>60216977
ok
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>>60216872
/shugazi/
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>>60212135
vapor trail gets me pretty emotional desu
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>>60192547
reminds me of the verve ep with fuzzier bass.
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Hey /shugazi/ I’m bored so I listened to this song ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alFvWDptUN4 ) like three times before deciding to write my thoughts on it.

So first off, there’s this intro that has these really gentle, almost ambient noises during the first few seconds before the vocals come in. And it actually take over 30 seconds before we hear the vocals come it so by that time I was feeling like the track has established this really subtle and subdued atmosphere. Then the vocals start in alone and there’s this really crystal-clear quality to it. I don’t know how else to explain it but fuckit the weird clarity in the vocals really helps add to the sunny mood all over this album. So when the rest of the instruments just go in all at once it totally breaks this mood and turns into this dance-shoegaze track for the rest of the song. And the guitar arrangements are great, the textures are shifting, and that coupled with the vocals is a serenely chaotic backdrop for a dance track. There are also bits where the vocals are reversed all throughout the song, and that shit gives this thing a whole really great psychedelic quality to it. Too bad it’s pretty much that same drum + guitar + vocal loop for like 6 minutes, with no other distinct sections to it. It doesn’t even end. It just stops, so what the fuck? Whatever. It’s pleasant anyway, but it’s still just a 6 minute loop.
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>>60218812
damn son those lyrics are hella deep
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Anyone got a link for this?
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>>60219528

I need this too
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