/GG/- Guitar and Bass General
Play long and flourish.
Join us on the /gg/ challenge:
>Create a short guitar tab (preferably in E Standard so more people will join), don't put any rhythm information on it, just the notes to be played
>Alternatively, if there's already a tab posted (either on the OP or replies), just use that one
>Record your interpretation
>Post it on vocaroo and check how everybody else play their own versions
Also:
>Post gear
>Post desired gear
>How long have you been playing?
>Fav guitars?
>Fav guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music
>General guitar and bass discussion
Beginner information and FAQ:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/wiki/index
Learn guitar:
http://www.justinguitar.com/
Guitar chords and inversions
http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php
String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/
>Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
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>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07izim49ao6ij7m
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tpr2u4e3bou2lqi
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5lvaa121vz29y83
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/2ckhum02748z2pk
Holy shit, ded
I wanted to buy a reverb pedal but then I remembered that I still have to pay health insurance.
I put 11s on my Strat today, it was an excellent decision. It sounds a lot better now, and I actually find bending a bit easier.
If anyone is thinking about going up a gauge I would recommend it.
So I've noticed most of the past tab challenges have had the notes spaced purposely to signify an approximate rhythm. I figured I would space everything evenly this time and make everyone come up with their own rhythm from scratch
>>55373160
Noice, blue tab bro.
Will give it a try.
>>55372701
Digitech polara is bretty cool and fairly cheap
>>55373160
Here is my attempt, haven't played my acoustic in a while as you can probably tell!
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hjEjt33jZ3
>mfw fucking around with a cello bow
You can get some fucking cool sounds, I don't know why the technique hasn't caught on.
>>55373160
That one is one so great for people who play with a pick. Too bad.
>>55373490
>I don't know why the technique hasn't caught on.
>>55373506
He largely used it as a gimmick though, aside from Sigur and TAP I can't think of a single band that actually makes it an integral part of their sound.
>>55373506
>one guy using it means it caught on
>Guitar review
>A major pentatonic blues out the ass
>Bass review
>SLAP SLAP SLAP SLAP
Why?
>>55373735
Joni makes it two m8
>>55373737
or
>guitar review
>plays through an amp set to very high gain
>shreds
Why. I get some people want guitars for that, but that is not how to do a review.
>tfw this
>>55373762
>>55373762
There's more than two types of playing than shredding and pentatonic blues.
>>55373812
that's the fucking point
>>55373666
>He largely used it as a gimmick though
So are you.
What was your first guitar? Mine was pic related and I smashed it before taking out the neck pickup for some reason at 13.
>>55373790
>Fanned frets
I never understood how those work. They seem like they'd be hard to get used to.
>>55373737
Why do you need to hear more than blues to decide whether a guitar is good or not?
If you want to hear good music, go listen to a record. The guy's showing a guitar and playing what he licks.
Don't be so autistic.
>>55373812
That is the point I was making mate.
>>55373852
Yamaha acoustic, came from one of those starter kit things for $150.
I lucked out because those guitars are usually shite, but mine was (and still is) great; it plays excellently and is well-built, and I've never had to get another acoustic guitar other than a classical one.
>>55373737
Because a lot of guitarists like blues and a lot of bass players like slap?
>>55373852
The acoustic. My dad got it for his birthday in the 60's and never learned how to play it
>>55373737
>why aren't other people conforming to my preferences?
>>55373868
>>55373933
>>55373973
>typical 4chan contrarian faggots
>>55373868
>>55373973
being an idiot on purpose isn't trolling
>>55373973
I think its more to do with the fact that one dimensional reviews don't do much to convey the versatility of a guitar. At least strum a few chords on the clean channel or something, shredding with a load of distortion doesn't really tell me much.
>>55374001
>>55374004
>dat total and complete lack of arguments
>>55374010
Blues isn't the only genre someone might want to hear on a guitar they wanna buy to play metal
but you should go try the guitar yourself anyways
>>55374008
He was talking about blues, which is usually played on clean and it's enough to get a grasp of the guitar's tone.
Who cares if he's playing pop, country, blues or funk? It's a guitar review, any of these genres is enough to show the guitar's tone.
He's just butthurt he doesn't like blues.
>>55374027
Ah, I am >>55373762
Nothing wrong with blues at all.
>>55374027
from my perspective, someone who likes blues, and agrees that only blues in a guitar review is stupid, you look like you're butthurt that he doesn't like blues
>>55374047
Yeah, I completely agree with your point because that high gain shredding will fail to show the guitar's clean tone and the amp will heavily mask how the guitars sound.
But as a consumer, as long as the guy shows a guitar's clean tone, I can't give a shit whether he's playing metal, blues, country or anything else. I just want to hear the guitar being played on clean.
>>55374056
I don't even like blues, retard.
>>55373021
And have to re-setup my Floyd again?
10-46s for life
>>55374083
don't get angry on the internet
>>55374083
Yeah I am with you on that. Even if it is just a couple of chords and the odd lick.
>>55374092
I blocked my tremolo off so thankfully I didn't have to deal with that!
Are Floyds a real pain? I have never owned a guitar with one.
>>55374128
>i have been told and have no arguments left
>>55373203
That's the one I wanted to buy. Money is a bit tight at the moment.
>>55374158
Once they're set up they're fine.
I have two Ibanezes one with and Edge Pro II and one with a ZR and the tuning stability is awesome and I never break a string
Setting up for a gauge change requires motivation time and patience none of which I have for that sort of thing ATM
>Contemplate drop C tuning for metal
>Listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS6-vI70oc0
>E standard
Does down tuning even do anything.
>>55374500
have you listened to sylosis? they're pretty heavy too and on e standard.
What do you guys use to power your pedals/pedal boards? What would keep my setup the quietest?
>>55374083
>high gain shredding will fail to show the guitar's clean tone
session music
german channel tho
>>55374587
fame dct-200 cheap as fuuaaaark but with isolated outputs
ugly but it rests unter my pedalboard anyway
>>55374685
>session music
>german channel tho
Sorry, what?
>>55373160
https://clyp.it/0bgj2t44
classical and electric
>>55374729
https://www.youtube.com/user/SessionMusicTV
I'd say 80% of the reviews is shredding, even with strats etc.
>>55374731
dang
>>55374731
good technical skill
but you're electric sounds like garbage
why do most shredders on youtube have the bee vibrato
>>55375158
I actually like that muffled tone for that clip, it contrasts the sharp acoustic nicely. Anyway, I used some stock Guitar Rig plugin for that instead of setting up a mic and recording loud with the halfstack
>>55373160
i want to play this but these chords are not my bag baby
How long did you guys have to practice for until you felt like you weren't complete shit?
Guys, I'm stuck and I don't know what to do. I've been trying to learn folk and more acoustic stuff, basically I know the normal chords and the 7 chords and I've been trying to learn songs with different chord progressions just to have them in memory
Also been finger picking alot of the tallest man on earth songs and been trying to get into alt tunings, it just feels like there's something I'm missing since I'm still shit at creating my own stuff, anyone got any pointers?
>>55376442
You should always feel like shit. The day you are comfortable with your art is the day the artist within you died.
>>55376840
So what you're implying is that you should never be satisfied with what you've done and always seek to outdo yourself, yes?
>>55371141
No rig posts?
>still trying to figure out if I should get a tremolo, univibe or chorus next
>>55377507
>No rig posts?
Should be getting my new LP next week.
>>55377529
Cool gear. Any recorded stuff?
>>55377572
Not really, sorry. I'm just a bad bedroom guitarist.
>>55377507
Definitely chorus, it's such a nice effect
>>55373490
https://restyousleepinggiant.bandcamp.com/releases
Bowed guitar is an essential part of my sound. But then again, I just post shit in bandcamp. I also really love GYBE screwdriver guitar.
>>55377951
>Indiana
My nigga
>>55377951
>screwdriver guitar
hot damn I never knew how to do that. I'm digging it.
What's the best fuzz pedal
pic unrelated
>>55378389
BOSS FZ-2.
>>55378409
kek
>>55378389
There is no best, you dingus.
The Big Muff is amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWWa8nEMjT4
>>55378417
Uh, okay.
It's basically a Univox Superfuzz with a tone stack and a second mode that does heavy mid-scooped fuzz.
Whatever, holmes. Enjoy your boutique big muff clone.
>>55378456
Muff comes on at 9:43
>>55378459
>Whatever, holmes. Enjoy your boutique big muff clone.
lol, that insecurity
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://4chanarchives.com/image/image-404.png "hqdefault[1].jpg")
Alright so I've run into a Big Muff Pi Tone Wicker pedal. With the Tone and Wicker switches up and bridge pickup on, I get the best power chord fuzz I've used, but single string stuff is thin and lifeless. With the Tone off and the Wicker on and middle pickup on, single string is wicked, but chords are lifeless. I'm using a strat, has anyone
1) Used this pedal?
2) Found a magic config for both styles?
>>55378537
What are you even talking about?
>>55378563
Had one a long time ago, one of my first pedals.
Sold it within a month.
>>55378603
Unsatisfied? Disappointed?
>>55378635
Disappointed. Couldn't make it work for me. Too trebly, fizzy, not enough definition, just sounded bad all around. It was passable with tone switches on but not really great.
Ended up getting the EQD Hoof and I'm really happy with it. Incomparably better.
>>55378681
*with both switches on
>>55378681
LOL the Hoof is a fucking Big Muff with LEDs for diodes I am not even bullshitting you look it up.
>>55378681
Well yeah, that's like hopping from a jalopy to a Mercedes.
>>55378710
The Hoof is based on the Sovtek Tall Font Green Big Muff, which is entirely different from any modern big muff, especially the Tone Wicker.
It sounds absolutely and completely different.
You're not smart as you think.
>>55378743
>the russian big muff is entirely different from the standard muff
Seriously, bro. Look it up. They put LEDs in the feedback loop.
People have traced this circuit TO DEATH and that was the key difference.
>>55378743
What's the difference between the Tall Font green Sovtek Muff and the regular green Sovtek?
>>55378772
Apparently you can't read so I'll tell you once again.
I'm here telling you the Hoof is based on the Green Sovtek Tall Font Big Muff. It has one extra knob which is the scoops or boosts mids. It was directly based on Dan Auerbach's green muff.
A Green Sovtek Tall Font Muff does not sound like a modern NYC Big Muff nor a Tone Wicker. There are literally dozens of original variations of the Big Muff and they all sound different.
You can trace all circuits you want but this won't change the fact that the similarities between a Green Tall Font Muff (original, hoof, wren & cuff or any other) and a modern Big Muff are little past their name.
Again, you're not as smart as you think.
Hey guys, I've just bought a E-bow for 80 bucks. What are some good effects to use it with?
>>55378873
>You can trace all circuits you want but this won't change the fact that the similarities between a Green Tall Font Muff (original, hoof, wren & cuff or any other) and a modern Big Muff are little past their name.
So they all differ from the basic cascading high gain BJTs with clipping diodes in the feedback loop, followed by a severe tone stack, followed by a recovery gain stage?
I mean, we can bring schematics into this and see if there is no similarity beyond their name.
>>55378885
Reverb and Delay are two very obvious ones
>>55378855
Tall Font is the green one on the left, the Bubble Font is in the middle.
The Tall Font is bassier, has more gain and compression. The Bubble Font is a bit brighter as well.
>>55378925
Are you really saying every Big Muff sounds the same because you think you can read schematics?
Holy shit, hahaha. I won't even keep arguing. I'll just link this and leave you with your stupidity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWm-ROMiEHo
>>55378041
Where are you located m8? Btown here
>>55378994
>Are you really saying every Big Muff sounds the same because you think you can read schematics?
Nah, I'm saying you paid $2000 for someone to swap silicon diodes for LEDs.
>>55378994
ah gotcha. I have the Bubble Font green one. I use it on guitar from time to time in recording but I pretty much exclusively use it on bass, both live and recording.
I also have an American Muff, and to the guy arguing that all Muffs sound the same, he must not own any, because there's a very clear difference between just these two
>>55379035
>that obviously butthurt and lack of argument
>ignoring that the Hoof is $165 and an original Tall Font Green Muff is $300+
Topest of keks.
>>55379140
Why would you pay $3000 for a collector's item?
Why not spend $2 and mod it to those specs instead?
>>55379014
New Albany, breh
>>55379181
if it's that easy, start up a professional modding service where you change any Big Muff to sound like any other that customers want, and make bank. $2 in components shouldn't hurt you that badly, and soldering's not that hard.
unless, you know, everyone else is right and you're talking out your ass.
>>55379181
>$300
>pulling figures out of his ass
>still not realizing the Hoof has one extra mid knob
>not taking account time to learn and build equals money
This tells you're broke, never had a decently paying job in your life, have so much time in your hands that it's valueless and because of that you're bitter and mad.
Is this thing actually worth its price or there are better/cheaper options?
>>55379313
About that mid control:
http://www.muzique.com/lab/tone3.htm
You don't have to read this shit if you don't want to fully understand how stupid you are. Just notice the fact that the ONLY difference is that they added a potentiometer at the top of the circuit block.
Adding a pot and four LEDs isn't quite a gargantuan learning and building task, you know.
You are telling someone that if they don't like a Big Muff, they should buy a boutique big muff.
Like fucking at least suggest they buy a boutique NOT big muff. Holy shit.
>>55379325
Also, is there any point using this if you already own a valvestate head and cab?
>>55379392
>$160 is boutique
>outraged by that value
Must suck to be that poor.
>>55379392
Yeah, they should get a Musket instead
>>55373492
It's called hybrid picking, you should learn it babbeh.
>>55379489
>boutique is defined by price, not by production level
>>55379568
>getting ridiculously buttdevastated because someone bought a pedal he considers boutique, regardless of price
http://drivedown.blog122.fc2.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cByd7OwgWGU
>>55379740
>thinking I'm the same guy
And he's not mad about someone buying a boutique pedal. He's mad that people are recommending big muffs in response to "I don't like big muffs."
>>55379806
>he still think every big muff sounds the same
Kek
>>55379765
>People needed tabs for this
Cmon...
>>55379806
>recommending
No one recommended that. One guy just said he didn't like his modern big muff and bought an eqd one that he thought sounded much better. He's free to do as he wants and talk about it.
Then you got in the middle feeling mad and insulted and really just made yourself look like an autist.
>>55373490
>>55373506
I was joking around about using a bow about a thread ago.
I'm finally getting the hang of it. I need a better guitar for it, Jazzmaster bridges (or Fender bridges for that matter) don't curve enough to accommodate the bow.
Saving up for a Les Paul style guitar then. It'll be a good investment because I need something with humbuckers.
What kind of strings should I get for my shitty acoustic, /gg/? I still kind of suck right now so I'm thinking some lighter strings might make me sound a little better.
>>55380136
I play with the bow on the fretboard of my telecaster sometimes, to get the best angle. A little hard to bow any notes over the 12th fret, but it works.
The closer I play to the bridge, the better I get full chords. The E, A, and high E are all easily accessed. Forget doing double stops on the G and D though.
Let me see if I can find a sample of something I improvised. It's a droney, metally piece, requires very little talent. As is typical of a /mu/tant musician.
>>55380225
>I'm thinking some lighter strings might make me sound a little better.
don't be a pussy
Hey /GG/, I've been considering buying a Gibson flying v '67 reissue because I've always wanted a flying v and it seems like a guitar with versatile tone. If you played, own, or owned one, I would like to know your opinion on the guitars playability and construction. Also, I know that most gibsons are 22 fret 24 3/4" scale length, are there any drawbacks to this regarding fret size (med or jumbo) and string gauge?
>>55380403
It's not that I can't hold the frets, but having to push down hard on every chord leads to a lot of fuck-ups.
>>55380507
That's not something related to your string gauge. Shitty neck tension probably
Anyone know why when I put new tubes in my combo amp the presence knob became useless? It goes from normal to SCREECH TREBLE.
What the hell is a presence pot affecting anyway?
>>55380604
The presence, you dip
>>55380537
Yeah, good point. The top fret is retardedly bad but anything past 7 and the action is almost too loose
>>55377951
>screwdriver guitar
My man, I use that a lot too.
I really like your music, it kind of has a Grouper vibe but is more loosely structured and has more of that "droning tape" vibe. Is it made with just guitar?
Here's my shoegaze/post-punk project if you want to check it out, last two have some screwdriver in them.
https://zhutchka.bandcamp.com/album/sea-ep
>Me:
19 m from Australia (Melbourne) who's transitioning genres
>My gear:
Ibanez RG370DX, shitty Line 6 Spiderjam (no money and amp is from when I was noob) and some crap $100 acoustic.
>Desired
Fender Tele (finally outgrown my metal phase, thank god), Ibanez RG721RW or S5521Q, probs will install Seymour Duncan 'Whole Lotta Humbucker' pickups. Also an actual amp rig with good pedals but you know, no money. Dream guitar is a Skervesen custom.
>How long have you been playing?
5 years
>Fav guitars?
Ibanez or Skervesen. I like thin necks because I do a lot of weird chord shapes and scale runs.
>Fav guitarists?
The CHON dudes, Tosin Abasi, Josh Martin, Jimmy Page, Guthrie Govan, Nicholas Llerandi
>Projects?
Check out this lo fi indie stuff I made once http://vocaroo.com/i/s1K11WDfVExp
All the sounds are the crap acoustic guitar audio edited heaps. I did a lot of post prod. obviously. The interesting part I think was how I got the synthy sounding bits. Just reverbed the crap out of the guitar recording, and reversed a lot of it. For percussion I literally just whacked the strings with my hand. All done in Audacity over like 6 hours 'cause I am a huge hipster faggot.
>General talky talk:
I play a lot of prog/tech stuff (CHON songs) for skillbuilding stuff, but I write mellow simplistic stuff. Currently in the process of starting up writing again in a new direction. I want my sound to be a bit similar to Porches, utilizing danceable rhythms and layered synth backing and stuff...hopefully after I've arranged an album's worth of material I'll recruit band members and play in the chill pubs I frequent.
>>55373160
My attempt: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1pek1DjlX6a
Excuse shitty recording, headset mic at 7.00am yo. Bit sloppy but you get the gist. I used a pick, hybrid picked the chords.
I play black metal and can't seem to get rid of the loud pick attack noise when I'm tremolo-ing, especially with two strings. I know it's kvlt and everything, but when I put on a little bit of delay for a blackgaze effect it just becomes an overwhelming mess of pick noise.
>>55373864
I haven't played a fanned fret guitar before but I've heard that it accommodates the natural shape of the hand better and becomes really comfy pretty soon.
The basic idea if you don't know is that you can use it for extended range guitars (7, 8 strings) or baritone guitars to keep the tension tight even on the lower thicker strings by giving it a longer scale length on the low strings and keeping it short on the higher ones. Pretty cool imo, looking into it for sure.
I need 3 metal songs that are easy on all parts so that I can jam with musicians this week. They told me to pick.
>>55380899
relax, and pick lighter. I have the same issue. I think you just gotta sorta relearn your tremolo pick technique, and start slow and light
>>55380923
My favorites to play on guitar are
Dream Theater (I know, I know) - The Count of Tuscany (easy enough to BS, and you can always add more stuff until you're at the full difficulty)
Burzum - Jesu Tod (fun if you have a shitty rig)
The Ocean - Hadean (for dat dere polyrhythm practice)
>>55373021
i used 12s for years, but i've wound up at 9s somehow on almost all my guitars. i miss the sound of 12s, but my playing is just so much better sounding with the lighter strings. i've got bitch hands i guess
>>55379906
>>55380004
They behave VERY similarly.
>>55380899
try positioning your pick a bit diagonal away from your hand to make sure it just barely grazes the strings, this also helps with speed.
>nothing but pedal talk and arguing
How about you talk about music?
Is what you're practicing right now really challenging you?
How do you expect to get better if you're not challenging yourself?
>>55381260
They do not.
>>55381573
Dude relisten to the comparison video you posted, and try to tell me that the nonlinear behavior is any different, and that the difference isn't basically just in the tone stack.
You paid an extra $100 for a difference less than $2 in parts and less than $5 in effort.
For a relatively subtle difference in sound.
>>55381533
I've been working on figuring out the relations between chords and proper shaping, and going through every scale I can to learn their intervals and how it determines relevant chords. it's not as challenging as it is time consuming, but I feel like I'm learning important things anyway.
>>55381678
I've had both pedals. You didn't. You think you can predict how the pedals will sound based on your limited ability to read schematics.
I have paid, owned and extensively used both. You haven't. There are extreme differences between them.
That's how simple it is, whether this makes you mad or not.
>>55381724
>muh anecdote
I can match your retreat to anecdote, though, by saying that I've done just about EVERY common Big Muff mod that exists. And the LED / mids pot mod is among the top five most popular mods out there.
I've spec'd them to the triangle, to the green sovtek, to the ram's head, to the hoof, to the swollen pickle. The most important difference is ALWAYS in the gain stage and in the tone stack. The behavior is ALWAYS the same, even when you don't use the same semiconductor topology. Use CMOS gain stages, same behavior, use JFETS, same behavior, use BJTs, same behavior. It all comes down to the biasing resistor, diode, and the tone stack.
There is NOTHING MAGICAL about a boutique Big Muff. There is NEVER anything that can't be done with two dollars and twenty minutes of time.
I'm looking for a mid-range combo amp, mainly for playing black and death metal so I guess I'll go with solid state. Not too expensive. Any suggestions?
>>55381822
You're talking about something you have never used or heard in your life.
You can rest your autistic ass, nothing you say has any validity. I'm done with your stupidity
>>55381876
Nigga I have ~built~ the shit.
>>55382000
No you haven't, not these specifics pedals built by these brands with the exact same components they use. You have built similar circuits with the same components built by different brands.
Also, regardless if the components cost $2 or $2k, they're enough to make them sound extremely different. And guess what, since I have a job and make good money, I can afford to pay someone the extra $60 it takes compared to the original to build it for me, unlike your poor ass.
Saying the tone differences between them is small just shows your complete inexperience. I can't give a shit what's inside, I'm interested in the sound.
>>55381701
It's a good practice, if you ever pickup sheet music, you'll be able to start grouping chords into what they are rather than individual notes.
The shapes help a lot.
I remember when /gg/ wasn't people throwing shit at each other about pedals. back in my day, it was throwing shit at each other over PRS being for rich white guys and whether or not tonewood made a difference.
>>55382084
>No you haven't, not these specifics pedals built by these brands with the exact same components they use
Yes I have. The components they use are by no means obscure at all.
Also you're going to tell me that a fucking 5088 will differ in its behavior depending on who is manufacturing them? You have got to be goddamned kidding me.
>>55382196
>Regardless if the components cost $2 or $2k, they're enough to make them sound extremely different. And guess what, since I have a job and make good money, I can afford to pay someone the extra $60 it takes compared to the original to build it for me, unlike your poor ass.
>Saying the tone differences between them is small just shows your complete inexperience. I can't give a shit what's inside, I'm interested in the sound.
>>55382084
Let me try to elaborate on that.
A pedalmaker isn't going to use some fancy small-business manufacturer for their 5088s and 1N914s, because for one they would be MORE poorly built than a large manufacturer with tighter tolerances, and for two because they are going to buy hundreds of thousands of them for a fraction of a penny each, sit them in big boxes for decades, and be glad they didn't design their pedals with germanium.
The only time they will go to a specialty manufacturer is when the component is out of general production. Because it costs a premium and the manufacturing process is worse.
That's why you have to test the shit out of germ transistors. That's why matched germs for a fuzz face or a fuzz factory cost so much. Because in each run, there are only a few that are properly spec'd, because small electronics businesses are using old technology to make their components.
>>55382284
>Regardless if the components cost $2 or $2k, they're enough to make them sound extremely different. And guess what, since I have a job and make good money, I can afford to pay someone the extra $60 it takes compared to the original to build it for me, unlike your poor ass.
>Saying the tone differences between them is small just shows your complete inexperience. I can't give a shit what's inside, I'm interested in the sound.
I don't know if it's just me, but /gg/ seems like it's gotten a lot more boring and pointless in just this past week or so
>>55382311
it's because there's less interesting discussions and more bitching and fighting.
>>55382246
Listen.
EQD found two of the cheapest, most popular Big Muff mods and slapped them into a box and charged a hundred bucks extra. That was literally their research and design phase.
Step one: Find the cheapest, most documented mods
Step two: Solder them in, charge extra monis
Step three: Market them as magical
>>55382380
>Regardless if the components cost $2 or $2k, they're enough to make them sound extremely different. And guess what, since I have a job and make good money, I can afford to pay someone the extra $60 it takes compared to the original to build it for me, unlike your poor ass.
>I can't give a shit what's inside, I'm interested in the sound.
>>55382396
That's fine.
Those cheap, easy mods sound pretty nice.
But the end result is still a Big Muff.
>>55382441
>end result is still a Big Muff.
And again, I couldn't give a shit as what you label it. It could be still a Big Muff, it could be now a Megazord, it could be Satan's New Born Child, it could be a BC Rich, you be focused on labels and semantics as you want.
It sounds different, it sounds much better, I paid a bloke meaningless money to make it for me. End or story.
>>55382505
I'm okay with that.
Also the things are really well built, and not really ridiculously priced for a boutique job.
I just dislike mojo-talk.
I dislike the idea that these guys are billiant for basically just aping what others have shared for free.
It's an okay pedal, and they spent some time making sure the mods sit well together.
But it's still just a Big Muff.
>>55382584
>I just dislike mojo-talk.
>I dislike the idea that these guys are billiant for basically just aping what others have shared for free.
Yet I said or implied none of this and all I literally said was that I had a Tone Wicker, disliked it and bought the Hoof instead which I thought sounded great.
You're the one who started attacking me without any reason just because you felt entitled to since you know the components cost $2, as if that gave you some magical secret knowledge. Learn some manners, dude. You sound like a social train wreck.
>>55382667
A big muff is incomparably better than a big muff.
That's mojo talk. They are the most comparable fucking things on the face of the earth.
>>55382763
I could buy a Squier Stratocaster, dislike it, then buy a Fender Custom Shop, love it, and say the later was incomparably better.
Quit your autism and butthurt over semantics. You are indeed a social train wreck.
>>55382791
You could do that, and the implications would amount to terrible advice.
>>55382818
Again, I don't give a shit about what triggers you.
You can keep with your butthurt all you want, I don't care and I'll keep saying it.
You keep getting in the middle of other people's conversations and throwing fits all you want, for me it changes nothing.
>>55382791
why would you buy a modern custom shop? all it does is perform minor changes from the original telecaster design. there's no reason to ever buy something updated with new ideas or components. it was right the first time!
that's how you sound, other guy.
>>55382845
I mean by the same token you can keep being butthurt that someone is pointing out how horrible your advice is.
You keep using low-tactics. And I'll keep substantiating my argument.
For me, it also changes nothing.
>>55382920
>I mean by the same token you can keep being butthurt that someone is pointing out how horrible your advice is.
As I said, I couldn't care less. YOU'RE the one who started this. You're the one triggered and startled by what I said
>You keep using low-tactics. And I'll keep substantiating my argument.
I'm talking to another person, your autism can interpret what I said any way you want, I just don't care.
At the end of the day you're just the guy eavesdropping other people then jumping in between them and shouting the apocalypse is near and everybody is wrong, while everyone laughs at you.
>>55382965
>eavesdropping on a public anonymous anime board
How fucking triggered can you even get?
Dude someone swapped out TWO components from a big muff. And you're like "This is incomparably different! No wait, the video doesn't count you have to FEEL the tone."
This is exactly what mojofags did with the Klon, with the Honeybee, with the ReezaFratZitz, with the Fulltone OCD. And they were all goddamned bullshit.
I'm just pointing out this is very typical guitarfag audiophile shit.
This is the language it always uses. The same rationale for defending itself. The same everything.
You wanna suck a 50 year old bluesman's dick, who's already blown his ears down to 12k, you go right ahead.
But don't be a crying faggot when someone calls you out.
>Post gear
Pic related. Also a cheap classic guitar.
>Post desired gear
None atm
>How long have you been playing?
I got my first cheap classic guitar 4 years ago. The first months I played almost everyday for hours. But I then slowly stopped playing that frequently until I stopped completely. Now I'm starting again because not playing ain't cool, man.
>Fav guitars?
I like acoustic and classic. I'm not a fan of electric.
>Fav guitarists?
I like listening/imitating the old bluesmen like Blind Blake/Lemon/Gary Davis, they were the ones that hook. Lately, I'm leaning more towards Brazilian styles like samba or bossa nova.
>Projects?
Learning "Chega de Saudade"
>>55383046
>triggered
>crying faggot
>calls you out
Anyone who can read the thread will know you just talked about yourself.
Also, congrats on finally losing it, you're not mad at all.
Gonna use the same board for guitar, but interchange the Micro POG and Green Rhino for a Proco Rat 2 and Swollen Pickle. And most likely upping my amp for the V4B and finishing my P bass project
>>55383046
Yo mate, my EQD Hoof said he had a message for you.
>>55383183
That Altoids pedal is nice, never know when you'll need that minty effect for a bass
>>55383288
with the focus and the ziptie, it looks like it's called a Ploof.
>>55383309
This Ploof sounds so much better than any other Big Muff I can't even begin to tell you about it, bro.
>>55383317
have you tried out the Germanium 4? It's not really fuzz, it's a split OD/dist circuit. Haven't seen people talk about it much, but it's one of the only Muffs I'm a fan of. EQD seems to do good work though.
>>55383342
Unfortunately haven't had the chance to check it out, but I did hear some demos in the past.
Sounded pretty fantastic and versatile, I remember thinking it was the only modern Big Muff I liked, but then again it was from the PGS channel and they're notorious to make everything, from great to shit, sound good.
>>55383440
I think we all need a nice break from the internet
why not turn off the computer and play guitar for 30 minutes
>>55383542
Mostly blues in A pentatonic.
can anybody recommend me a big muff pedal? thinking about getting one.
which is best?
>>55383542
Not related to the shitposting, but what would you recommend to someone who plays almost only metal ? I haven't found anything else as fun to play.
>>55380784
Thanks man. Peppermint Tea is made mostly with "found" tape loops, recorded loops, and guitar. I use absolutely no synths or keys. I like my sound to feel organic.
>>55383631
Just get the regular one.
>>55383927
nah, I'm really thinking about getting a boutique one.
thinking about pic related.
>>55383963
You sure you can handle that level of mojo, though?
>>55383998
i don't know what you're talking about.
anyway, that thing's awesome. almost pulling the trigger.
>>55383963
>>55383963
>paying 275 bucks for something that costs 5 to make
>>55384017
what, u poor, nigga?
>>55384010
You don't?
Then you definitely aren't ready to pull the trigger on all that tone.
>>55384043
thanks for the encouragement, bro.
just ordered it through ProGuitarShop, free shipping.
>>55384415
That's a pretty expensive troll anon. I'm impressed.
>>55384671
don't know why you'd think that, haha.
anyway, i'm pumped as fuck. it's expensive yes but i'm redoing my whole pedalboard and got tired of buying junk.
check it out, this thing is gnarly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yssxGzXNhPM
>>55384742
Is this nigga really playing Dino Jr?
Also, honestly, it does sound good and I hope it works for your rig.
>>55384811
not really big into dinosaur jr, to be honest.
though i play mostly smashing pumpkings, sonic youth, early grunge/alt stuff, never really got into them.
and tell me about it, it took me a while to convince on dropping almost $300 on it. i was also considering the cheaper stomp under foot one but decided if i'm going to have this thing for the rest of my life i might as well just spend more, get what i want and don't look back.
i really think this is going to be my new favorite pedal.
>>55384742
sounds like a shitty line6 amp
>>55384906
the ram's head tone is not for everyone, later big muffs are smoother and darker, bro, which is probably more of your thing.
it fits perfectly into what i play, tho.
What's the point of playing anything other than a Les Paul?
>>55383473
this is objectively the best comment in this entire thread.
on another note, has anyone ITT played one of these? I'm thinking about getting one and all the reviews and demos have sounded good but I'm hoping for some first hand feedback
>>55385053
EQD is generally great and one of the best pedals company right now.
That being said, not everything they make is for everyone and don't trust reviews from channels such as PGS and other paid stores. They make everything sound good. I've been fooled before.
Just Nick is one guy that generally makes pretty transparent reviews/demos, check it out his demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCReRvl790g
>>55385000
Having fun and wanting diversity?
>>55385091
definitely agree mi amigo, I trust them 100% but I just wanted to see if there was anything about the pedal that you can really only figure out after using it. I had one of the EQD Depths univibe pedals and it was a really great pedal and sounded great but it added a lot of low end to my tone which made it kinda sound brittle and shitty after I turned it off. Dunno if it was just in the wrong spot in my pedal chain or what but the bass adding never showed up in any demos or anything. I hope to revisit that pedal in the future though and try again. I'll check out that demo now though, thanks my nigga
>>55375352
it sounds fine for what it is. now intrigued by clyp
>>55378456
ur mum's big muff was amazing
>>55385091
Just Nick is great.
>>55385319
kek
only on /gg/
>>55374158
don't cut all the strings off and you'll be cool.
>>55381260
autists and /gguys? I wonder why.
>>55382441
You're talking about adding heat sensitive components to a smaller populated board.
Most gguitarsts
-don't understand how to tighten the output jack nut
-don't know how to rewire the output jack
-think wires have a magical effect on tone
-think pots create tone
-can't afford a squier let alone a basic electronics setup
So, sorry EQD is earning a living and you're not.
Anyone ever use an EarthQuaker Devices Afterneath? I'm considering picking one up but it's pretty expensive and i cant find any used or anything. Also if anyone has anything similar for cheaper they can recommend that'd be cool.
>>55385053
>>55385629
hivemind?
I've been trying to justify getting an Afterneath.. it's just so fuckin cool. an anon in a previous thread had one and said it was the coolest fuckin pedal and that the self oscillations were ridiculous
>>55383046
>bluesdads hearing to 12k
I can hear 18k if I'm in front of the laptop speakers.
http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009/03/can-you-hear-this-hearing-test/
>>55385629
>>55385686
I have one of these. It's fucking great. It's a bit pricier than it should be, but if you have the money, go for it. Just don't use it as a primary reverb pedal.
>>55385785
gotta update a pic of my board though, I have since gotten an EQD Grand Orbiter Phaser, sold the HoofReaper and bought a regular Hoof fuzz and am about to order a Bit Commander
>>55385850
I already have a primary reverb pedal and I really want an Afterneath but I'm not sure I could justify spending that just to make crazy noises and experiment. I'm not sure how I'd realistically be able to implement it in my music
>>55385887
If you can find a way to implement a Bit Commander in your music, you can probably find a way to implement an Afterneath in your music.
>>55385887
>sold the HoofReaper and bought a regular Hoof fuzz
Mah nigga, you did the same as me. What made you ditch the Reaper?
>>55386078
well I love the Hoof and the Reaper pedal is nice but I never really use the Reaper side and I never really use the octave up effect since it doesn't really come through unless you're playing above the 12th fret on the neck pickup. I really want to be able to actually use the octave effect and do some cool octave up for solos/octave down for riffing so I'm gonna get the Bit Commander to stack with the Hoof. What made you get rid of yours my nigga?
>>55386026
....you speak the truf. I just play mostly sludge/stoner/death metal so there's not a whole lot of room in most of my stuff for something like the Afterneath but I'm sure I'd come up with some cool shit with it
>>55373160
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hjEjt33jZ3
https://clyp.it/0bgj2t44
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1pek1DjlX6a
We've got three interpretations so far. Let's get some more
>>55386160
>What made you get rid of yours my nigga?
Pretty much the same reason as you. Never used the octave, just always preferred the Hoof for everything.
I might get something more aggressive such as a Terminal in the future, but right now I'm fine in the fuzz department.
>>55386026
I didn't realize how similar to a pog the commander is until watching that Nick video. If I find a chunk of money to incinerate, it's going to be a hard choice.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if this is a good first guitar?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ibanez-rg6003fm-electric-guitar
And what kinda amp should I get? I have a 500 dollar guitar/amp limit. Tax return.
how do I into pinch harmonics?
>>55387106
Do them like right handed assisted harmonics.
>2015
>not playing finger-style
>>55386605
What kind of music are you playing? If its metal, which it looks like it is based off the guitar then get a line 6 amp any other kind of music get a fender mustang 3 v2.
>>55387197
well metal and shoe gaze. So a line 6 amp would suit?
But is it a good beginner's guitar? I wanna learn to play and I was told the cheaper ibanez guitars were good for beginners.
Just tuned my guitar from standard to a half-step down
Apart from the lowered range, I didn't expect the loosened strings to feel so great on my fingers. I feel like I have more control over the fretboard for some reason.
Does anyone else have experience playing a half-step down?
>>55387441
>But is it a good beginner's guitar?
yes
does anyone have any experience with the TC electronic bass amps?
>>55387441
You can't do shoegaze with that guitar. It would be better with a fender Mexican strat. Don't get a line 6 amp if you're doing shoegaze, the mustang 3 v2 amp is perfect to get that dreamy sound, and the mustang amp will work best with all the pedals you need, or you could just go with the built in pedals. Mustang amp has built in reverb amps that are perfect for shoegaze.
You can do Metal and any other music you want with a Mexican fender strat and mustang 3 v2 amp, so get those.
>>55387441
It's good if you're doing just metal.
>>55388026
Thanks for the tip, but that stuff seems a little expensive though man.
Do you have similar recommendations that can meet a 500 dollar budget? Again I'm just starting out so I don't need to get the best stuff.
>>55387197
>>55387441
>>55388026
>>55388091
>>55386605
I've heard people do Shoegaze with ESP flying V with EMG's and a Floyd just fine, the RG will be fine for playing metal and shoegaze but since it has no trem it won't be good for the "MBV" shoegaze and more along the lines of "Nothing" shoegaze.
>Implying you can't use a Gibson Hollowbody for metal and a BC Rich Warlock for Jazz or whatever guitar for whatever genre.
>>55388155
I would get a Fender Mustang II V2 along with a used guitar in the $250 range. The rest is for cable, gig bag, etc.
>>55387643
I really like playing in Eb. I usually stay in E but sometimes I'll spend a week or two in Eb. The lowest I go is C# for Sabbath.
I can't wait until I have enough money to build the partscaster I want so I can always have a guitar in Eb.
>>55388155
Yes, just buy a used squire for $50 bucks, buy dimarzio humbucker pickups, a fender tremolo, and new nut for $100, then buy the fender mustang 3 v2 amp for $330. Just look up youtube videos on how to install the gear into the ssquire, it's easy.
Now you can play anything you want for less than 500.
R8 my new bass.
Schecter stilleto studio 5.
Personally I love it. I haven't had a new bass in over 5 years so I've been pretty hyped to play it.
I've learned basically all the chords I need to know, but how do I get into picking the guitar?
I can do some tabs but I'm terribly slow, any sources of practice I could use to just learn picking in general?
I don't know anything about guitar so this is going to be an extremely uneducated post using the most layman terms ever. I've only ever fiddled around with a guitar but recently I've found the strong urge to learn at least basic chords and it has been on my mind for about a month. Being honest I just want to play for my personal enjoyment and I want the guitar I get to sound like the guitar in the band Codeine. Could I be able to get a cheap guitar that sounds similar to this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XQIT1_oKVY And what effects would I need to make it sound like that? Sorry for asking to be spoonfed and definitely coming off as an idiot, but it would be great if anyone could help out.
Hey anons, guitar pleb here
Is it me or do lightly rusted strings make shit sound really fucked up for you?
Also, any tips on lubricating the tone/volume knob on my guitar? It's making some weird interference when turning them and a pretty seasoned guitarist (my mentor so to say) has recommended lubricating the knobs a little but not too much
>>55388535
If there is any sign of rust you need new strings asap.
>>55388579
Yeah, I figured
I'm so far from my next paycheck and I'd like to invest on some good strings to get it to its better days again
>>55388535
You don't need lube it's dirt, so just pop the off and clean it.
>>55388616
Thanks, based anon as always
>>55388535
If the pots are scratchy they need to be cleaned. Use contact cleaner. It's a simple job.
>>55388519
>guitar
humbucker pickups (instead of single-coil pickups)
>effects
reverb
distortion
>>55388641
Don't worry, never had problem with my pot, thanks for your concern ;^)
Unfunny jokes aside, Tried cleaning it and it's definitely not making any more interference!
>>55388438
Nice m8, I like my Schecter bass too
Alright guys, so I just found out I don't have to spend 1k on fixing my car, rather just $50. So what do I do with the remaining money? It was saved solely for use on my car and now I intent to use it on what I love. I just got a Yamaha THR-10 amp a month ago so now I'm thinking of new pickups in my Ibanez. What would you guys do with a thousand bucks?
>>55390527
Save it up and put it towards a nice amp in the future
>>55390527
>intent
>>55390549
What amp would you want with a similar budget?
>>55390578
Over here in Aus $1000 wouldn't get me anything decent so I'd save it up. I play metal so probably a 6505.
how to wank phrases as fast as humanely possible? my picking hand can do it but my fret hand can't jump strings quick enough
what exercises should I be practicing 12 hours a day
>>55391250
what
just practice whatever you're trying to learn at slow speed until you can play it perfectly, then practice it a bit faster until you can play it perfectly and repeat until you get to full speed
Can someone give me some info on usb interfaces
Is there such thing as better quality?
If I buy a cheap usb to guitar adaptor will it affect the sound?
>>55391579
I think all interface more or less sound the same, but the latency they have would be different.
What do you use to make drum tracks?
>>55392052
>EZDrummer
>Reason
>Drum Machine
Is scott grove the most knowledgable, intelligent and important guitar personality on youtube? he has the insight to spend thousands of dollars from his welfare checks on charvels and blackstar amps. this alone makes him a genius. i listen to everything he says or else your a dumb set neck tone wood mother fucker
this guy has the ability to make any combination of 5k dollar guitar+4k dollar amp sound exactly the same in blooz lawyer deliciousness
>>55393584
Jesus fucking christ.
