Was Disco really that awful?
I can think of worse genres honestly
The only genre I've ever heard compared to disco is dubsteb, so yeah I'd say it's pretty bad.
Jeff Lynne had a good quote on disco, but even then I'm not sure ELO is enough to redeem it
I actually like disco quite a bit.
Pic related is one of my favorite albums of all time, actually.
there were some gems to the genre
>>54722217
It was fun and catchy, but how much can you progress from it?
its like the rise and fall of shit like chillwave and witchhouse
It really wasn't.
Just hit a massively overwhelming saturation point.
That said there's a lot of awful disco.
>>54722259
>disco compared to dubstep
Thiskillsthebait.jpg
>tfw you love disco
wrong generation :'(
But can you think of more fake genres?
no you can't. Disco is the least authentic musical genre of all time.
H I - N R G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX3qzRI69G4
>>54722380
>disco is the least authentic
>in a world where imagined racial persecution from black rappers is considered genuine and deep
kek
disco was great, the hate for it is just a silly thing people say
>not actually enjoying a lot songs like I Feel Love or You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)
their loss
i think disco's great.
folk punk is the worst genre.
>>54722291
How much can you progress from it? Are you fucking kidding me? The musical ignorance of /mu/ when it comes to dance music and pop music is fucking ASTOUNDING. I mean, you guys still think that Kraftwerk was the sole reason electronic dance music exists. Protip: House music came DIRECTLY from disco. AND GUESS WHAT? FUCKING HIP HOP IS AN OFFSHOOT OF DISCO. DISCO RAP WAS A THING. LOOK IT UP, DISCO WAS ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL AND IMPORTANT GENRES TO MODERN POPULAR MUSIC.
>>54722586
b-but disco sux xd
>>54722217
Rap/Hip Hop are probably the worst genres in the history of music.
not a genre but anything branded under "EDM"
I'm glad disco existed because it inspired a lot of good music. Music that took a page from the disco book, and music that reacted against disco. In either case, the world is overall better for having disco innit.
But yeah disco itself is pretty eh... I guess the musicians were pretty tight tho, not like all that sloppy rock/folk shit of the 60s
Only AC/DC fans hated disco.
I imagine people got sick of it still after everyone was jumping on the bandwagon though.
>>54722217
No, it's a patrician dance genre. and against the contrary belief, disco never died, it just went underground again. I would have loved to see and hear djs like David Mancuso, Nicky Siano and Larry Levan do their magic with their turntables... at the Studio 54, The Loft and Paradise Garage. Anyone interested to learn more about Disco, I would recommend the book " Love Saves the Day" by Tim Lawrence, and " Turn the Beat around" by Peter Shapiro. It was only taken off the mainstream due to that "Disco Sucks" daddy's boy of the owner to the Detroit tigers back in the mid 70's.
Ironically, dance music has come back and killed off rock to the point of extinction. Now we have genres that pay homage to disco, with the arrival of french house, nudisco, dream pop, synthwave, and future funk.
>>54722778
>mfw Random Access Memories did this
and everyone said it was such a bad album
>>54722842
only /mu/ said it was bad
>>54722842
Only /mu/ actually considered it bad. I personally thought It's Album Time was way more fun and ground-breaking of a disco record, though.
>>54722778
Ah David Mancuso, Larry Levan, the early NY house scene, I love that shit. Makes me want to watch Maestro
>>54722941
Todd Terje
Flight Facilities
Fafa Monteco
Le Knight Club
Daft Punk
Darius
Cherokee
Drop Dream Orchestra
Psychemagik
Falqo
Cezaire
The Twelves
Madeon
Chromeo
Fred Falke
DJ Falcon
Alan Braxe
Modjo
Saint Pepsi (Skylar Spence)
Toecutter
James Curd
Bag Raiders
Harrison
Louis La Roche
and a fuckton of others have followed into disco's style. God Bless Disco. Rock Sucks.
>>54722217
Post-Rock and Shoegaze are worse
The whole backlash against Disco is actually really fascinating. I feel like a similar thing could happen to EDM, especially if the economic and political climate takes a turn for the worse.
>>54723189
left out Breakbot, Cassius, and Justice
>>54722380
hair metal.
>>54723300
it could happen. the tide turns around every once in a while. rock at this point is going through the same thing that disco went through decades ago.
i can only think of Tame Impala, The Black Keys, and Arctic Monkeys as the only significant faces of rock at this point
this is now a disco thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdC9dBuTBBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGokDVdgl-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4VAdWJXyFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdsvtnOoFAg
I like disco because it was like the last dance music made largely with bands. The more jam like, lengthy disco songs are great. But yeah, it's ultimately just cheesy fun, nothing wrong with that though but I can understand the backlash against it from people who wanted more serious music.
>>54723189
you could add Patrick Alavi there, its a mix of disco and big room house. same with Justice
Deathcore is probably worse. No other genre has as many identical-sounding bands. You could literally build brand new deathcore songs using only half-second samples from other deathcore songs, and people would think it's a new deathcore band playing it.
There's even more variation in visual kei, a musical style designed solely to extract money from the wallets of Japanese teenage girls.
>>54723466
I don't think what's happening to rock right now is entirely comparable to what happened to disco. The reaction to disco was more angry and focused, where as rock is just kinda fading away in terms of relevance to popular culture. I think what happened to disco is more comparable to what happened to prog with the rise of punk.
That being said, I feel that it is unlikely for a variation of rock to lead a potential backlash against EDM. Most likely, a form of electronic music that is the antithesis of EDM will form as a reaction to over-saturation. I would predict it to be kind of dissonant and political, but still accessible to some degree. Perhaps something like a more tone-downed Death Grips. I would also expect it to kill off bling and bitches party rap.
>>54722586
But I am le patrician. I don't need to know anything about the genre disco or even have listened to it to know that it is bad.
>>54722586
This. What the fuck /mu/, get your shit together. Disco was extremely important to music as a whole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2q2bis6eLE
I dare people to listen to this and not think of modern "hip" music today. All that "indie-electronica" that hipsters love so much owe alot to this song.
>>54724389
>>54723466
Rock and hip hop to a lesser extent are victims of the industry overexposing people, and being unable to follow up with "the next big thing".
Disco was okay.
I mean when The Bee Gees come on, something primal and stupid in me gets excited. I don't ever put it on willingly, but now that I consider it, maybe it wouldn't hurt.
Disco gave way to house, so it can't be all bad, and plus there are some pretty legit disco songs. Nightcore/happy hardcore along with arena and anthem trance have my vote for worst genres
GENRES OBJECTIVELY WORSE THAN DISCO
>American primitivism
>EAI
>country yodeling
>deathcore
>Carnatic classical music
>serialism
>deep house
>ghettotech
>abstract hip-hop
>black metal
>afrobeat
>first-wave post-rock
>gothic country.
>>54722380
I mean, the music is very heavily produced, so I get where you're coming from, but disco is about wanting to dance and fuck people. Kind of hard to be unauthentic about wanting to dance and fuck people.
Can anyone post disco house like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPkFxXaIquY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNv6WANHVXI
With house beats and strings and such?
Disco is essentially pop fused with a bit of funk. It's great party music to dance, do coke, and fuck to. But it lacks enough substance to grow which is exactly why it died.
Since I have a few links that are still up:
Best of Chic Vol. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOx81aG-EN4
http://www.mediafire.com/download/fvmh4lw0ppdg9ea/C-BO1.zip
Best of Chic Vol. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2JJqPgpEA
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cdox792ycm9qj87/C-BO2.zip
But yes, there's plenty of bad pop music that's much worse than disco: the bland corporate radio rock that somehow still gets churned out, the histrionic vocals of some love songs that focus on technique over clever arrangement and songwriting...
Yeah, it definitely got a bad rap undeservedly back in the day.
The only thing I don't get is why so many disco producers thought bringing a string orchestra onto the dance floor was a good idea?
I mean Giorgio Moroder's production of Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" is one of the few disco hits that isn't "marred by strings":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2qI6UDD2uQ
>>54722217
faggot.
country is like 300x worse than disco
>>54722291
> how much can you progress from it?
house is basicly electronic disco so it's definitely not a musical dead end
here's an analogy
the 70's had disco haters, the '10s have secretly racist white kids that defend classic rock to the death and blindly say "all hip-hop is garbage"
>>54727613
I posted "I Feel Love" earlier in the thread. I love cheesy strings, but man, Giorgio singlehandedly changed club and dance music forever with that song.
>>54723189
>Todd Terje
Spits in his own face(in the mirror)
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Todd+Terje&FORM=HDRSC3#view=detail&mid=6AD04B81C77F3409E2BC6AD04B81C77F3409E2BC
>>54726980
>gothic country
>abstract hip-hop
please stop that
>>54723300
edm isn't predominantly made by Black and Gay people.
>>54727724
Damn straight.
I don't mind strings when a band as adept as Chic puts them to use, but they always seemed musically superfluous - as if they were a signifier for "class" more than making the music "better".
"We need to make people dance! What do we need? Okay: Drums, Bass, Rhythm Guitar, Horns, ....violin? Viola? Cello? Hmmm...."
If I had to choose I'd have left 'em at the philharmonic....
>>54722416
Nice try you stupid fucking nigger
>>54727847
It came from music that was made originally by Black gay people.
>>54722217
Imagine hearing ABBA songs blasted all day every day.
I can imagine it would be pretty fucking bad.
Would SILY be considered something that has Disco elements to it?
the beats on SILY, Radio, Stay Another Season remind me alot of something you'd hear around that era
>>54727927
Look up stockhausen or Milton Babbit. they were the founders of interesting electronic music in the 60s.
They're as white and straight as it gets.
>>54727927
so did rock. once non-minorities become the main people making it no one cares anymore, it no longer is a threat to people.
>>54727991
Well considering it's a plunderphonics record, I would imagine so
>>54723300
EDM (skrillex, bassnectar, etc.) has only ever been fucking garbage
Dubstep is objectively the worst genre.
>>54728461
>Bassnectar
>garbage
I agree most of EDM is forgettable and/or pretty shitty. The scene isn't that cool
>>54722740
stfu
>>54727442
Look for Sega and Playstation soundtracks from that era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7z8FIfEag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2rP5GFwcaw
>>54722662
i legitimately lol'd
>>54722217
it's really a subgenre, and yes. It sucked ass. That is why it is quite literally dead. Just like Nu Metal. It is a dead sub genre which means it sucked enough for people to realize that it couldn't contribute anything else to art
>>54729101
>>54728764
AMERICAN dub step. Not original dub step
>>54722415
NRG ya buddy
>>54723362
Agreed, although I'm not sure I'd group Kiss in with groups like Poison and Motley Crue. They were a precursor but the image and music (lol) is actually pretty different.
>>54727953
ABBA is pretty good though.
>>54730214
>you will never be this wrong
Disco is a genre and as proven in this thread, has was a precursor to dance music and electronica. It had also influenced a great number of artists today and led to a continuation of new genres. Go fuck off back to your metal containment thread before you spout more nonsense.
>>54730214
>That is why it is quite literally dead
But it 'died' due to racist/homophobic backlash from white rockists? You wouldn't have something like Disco Demolition Night if it was just a genre that ran out of things to offer artistically.
>>54730362
I unironically second this.
Disco was good and authentic. Some of the greatest songs of all time are disco songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa4StVo_pqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwoavXnHxYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4quJtamr0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0p6KbO5kaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9ReGFoH0
>>54722350
Disco is getting coming back
rednecks started the "disco sucks" movement because the genre was mostly led by black women and gays. they didn't like the fact that blacks were partying and having fun while they worked their shitty blue collar jobs and came home to beat their wives and drink beer. white people always do this when there's a positive form of black music that allows us to have fun. white people are miserable wretched beings.
>>54722380
Maybe define authentic in your eyes first before there's some dumb argument about whether it is that or not. Better yet, define what fake or inauthentic music is. I'm no disco fan but wtf are you even saying?
>>54732981
I doubt it was racial. A lot of funk and reggae artists weren't too happy with it either.
>>54732981
except disco is some of the whitest music on the planet.
>>54733026
exactly
god, /mu/'s ignorance is really showing in this thread.
Disco is fucking dead for good reason.
People now are influenced by it and they actually add a little substance to it by taking pieces of it and letting it inform their songwriting.
It is not culturally diverse music, it is music for middle-aged, white people (especially bands like ABBA)
It was all awful, vapid music. True disco was.
You can make good music that is somewhat influenced by disco, but true disco is dead like Latin and Nu Metal. I hope some of EDM will die as well. There is a reason why EDM's fanbase is mostly made up of douchebags.
>>54726724
The Bee Gees only ever made one true and pure disco album and that one is Children of the World, and it is a very weak album. Main Course, Saturday Night Fever, and Spirits Having Flown are actually more thought out musically and production wise than the average 70s disco song.
Compare songs from KC & the Sunshine Band to the Bee Gees and realize that the Bee Gees were more disco/pop/rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDD5BQlv8iw
GOAT song of all time
>>54733306
I like future-funk which is largely disco influenced
like Macross 82-99
>>54722586
But all those things that it progressed to are terrible. Are you saying that the advent of Rap and House are something to be proud of?
>>54733543
get this faggy white kid a glass of milk and the fuck out of here
>>54722291
>a genre of music's value is derived from what directions it can go in.
I'm fucking out. The shitposting has reached critical mass.
>>54726980
>abstract hip-hop
>black metal
>afrobeat
>first-wave post-rock
:^)
>>54722380
>fake vs authentic
Dude I bet you are like, so fucking sensitive because you wear converse sneakers. I hate phonies too. Hurumph!
>>54722586
Post Punk Also! The main reason people didn't like disco at the time was the ideological baggage, and the destruction of rock culture that came with it.
Also, like everything that becomes popular there was a lot of shit disco coming out
>>54733626
>disco was extremely influential t post punk
I'm really curious as to how you can defend or justify that. It's got my bullshit detector redlined
I think at this point, the general concensus is disco was actually good just hated on at the time
i mean it is massively influential in modern music across a lot of genres
>>54722217
Im sure it got annoying back in the day. I love it though. So cheesy.
>>54733692
Johnny Rotten and PIL liked disco
"I see no problem admiring the Bee Gees and being in The Sex Pistols."
"Disco is a very Useful tool" - John Lydon
>>54722217
Consider the fact that one of the greatest rock songs of all time was disco influenced. I think we all know which one that is.
>>54723189
>Flight Facilities
>Fred Falke
>Bag Raiders
Wow, good on you anon. √
>>54733729
John Lydon is a notorious troll, theres a good chance he said that just to rile punks.
And one musician saying something positive about a genre is a long way from 'extremely influenced'
I just don't hear it
>>54733732
Miss You?
>>54733827
>Miss You
Another Brick In The Wall pt 2
But miss you is a fucking great song too. I need to listen to more Rolling Stones
>>54733811
>Cabaret Voltaire
>A Certain Ratio
>23 Skidoo
>Clock DVA
>New Order
>Soft Cell
www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_lPHjn0Aqk
For anyone thinking disco had vapid lyrics or subject matter. Also a fucking beast of a jam.
>>54733987
this is great thanks anon
I grew up in the 70s and like any genre, there is good and bad. I like Donna Summer.
Nah, fuck this thread, I'm out.
>>54734018
glad you like it : )
It depends, do you like dancing and having fun? If you can't get wiggling to disco, there's no hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPBDMihPRJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwSgISa3KNc
I recomend this guy's channel for some good disco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQs3qFsqD7E
>>54733692
Jesus christ have you ever heard dance-punk? Liquid Liquid, Gang of Four, Material, Killing Joke, ESG, etc.?
>>54733724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97RjuC9YeXg
I think this is Giorgio Moroder's doing. Pretty innovative concept album at the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2qI6UDD2uQ
>>54731772
This!
>>54733219
Not true. Real disco was mainly a gay, latino/black affair.
>>54726980
>OBJECTIVE
Well meme'd bro.
>>54733692
seriously have you ever listened to post punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGncWGLHdQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL0tYowbIxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3wUBL3Aw78
