I don't know if any of you people care, but I'm a black man and I'm going to explain to you why "The Powers that B" is actually just a much better album than "To Pimp a Butterfly".
The problem with Kendrick's album is simple: It's boring. He's actually just lecturing you in his nasally voice for over an hour. It's not even like he's trying to make some kind of work of art that illustrates the struggle of black people; he's just outright lecturing you about it, the lyricism on the album hardly requires any thought and its entirely straightforward in its message. The whole album is 'booboo' this, 'niggers' that, 'black power' this, 'white cultural appropriation' that. Nearly the entire album sticks on this one subject, barely if ever branching out.
If I wanted to learn about black history or modern day racial tensions, I'd read a book about the civil rights movement or go to a social studies class.
If I wanted to listen to jazz or funk, I've got Miles Davis, James Brown, Charles Mingus, Herbie Hancock and George Clinton (Kendrick's smartest play) for that.
And if I wanted to listen to a 2015 hip-hop album that's enjoyable to listen to and actually tries to push hip-hop as a genre while transcending racial boundaries, "The Powers that B" just dropped. In fact, the subject of racial tension is tackled in a much more amusing and Jocyean fashion on the track "Black Quarterback".
"To Pimp a Butterfly" is an album designed and marketed to be sold to white people. White people will listen to albums where rappers like Kendrick go on about the struggle of black people and how they were oppressed by whites for centuries, and they'll like it because they feel like talking about what a genius Kendrick is on Facebook and Twitter makes them feel more cultured.
Personally, I just don't see how you could actually think Kendrick's album is better unless you're just obsessed with social justice or something.
>>54604314
autism pills
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE INSIST ON COMPARING THE TWO!?!?!?!??!?!
RRRREEEEEEE
>>54604314
I bet if Fantano knew what black quarterback was about it would be his favorite track on NOTM instead of least favorite
>boohoo the album i like isn't as acclaimed as i hoped it would be
get over it
in a few years you'll be embarrassed you even listened to DG
>>54604382
>>54604382
>>54604382
What is it about? NOTM is my least favorite DG record, idk why. Probably because i don't understand it? Explain .
>>54604314
Joycean*
>>54604394
I am mature enough to not be embarrased of anything I did
>>54604314
damn this is correct
>>54604454
>>54604314
samefag
>>54604493
thanks
>>54604314
tldr: "no bangers fam"
>>54604382
Fantano has shown on multiple occasions that he doesn't read into the lyrics of Death Grips at all. Kind of funny since that seems to be the entire basis of his reviews of other rap albums. The lyrics of Niggas on the Moon often reads like if James Joyce became a rapper in the 21st century or something.
>>54604394
My older brother used to tell me that when I was an 12 year old kid collecting Stones Throw Records albums, it doesn't mean anything besides that you my friend, are insecure. If you've ever been embarassed to have liked any music at any point in time of your life, maybe you should stop and reconsider why it is that you're listening to it. If you're listening to something just to fit in, you shouldn't be.
>>54604431
>I am mature enough to not be embarrassed of anything I did
That guy should try to learn something from you!
>>54604421
At least part of the song is about an encounter between a young black man and a cop.
>>54604493
>I don't like thinking for myself and just swallow whatever critics tell me to.
That's fantastic. I was hoping to have a discussion here with people who like to think about things.
>i'm a black man here to tell you why my taste is better than anyone elses
why thank you black man i really really value this opinion it is in fact OBJECTIVELY correct and you convinced me really well with saying X is more "boring" than Y. what a well formed argument
>>54604563
AUTISM
PILLS
>>54604314
I mean if you think that's is all that is in Kendricks album you're not smart enough to figure out all the other things he is saying.
>the lyricism on the album hardly requires any thought and its entirely straightforward in its message.
>>54604339
Also this
>>54604421
it's about mc ride proving he's black (im guessing a lot of people call him an oreo or some shit) people use the by describing an encounter with a cop in which he scared him
>>54604579
>being surprised that "Autistic Black Man: The Band" attracts autistic black listeners.
>>54604606
damn what the fuck i really butchered that sentence
basically he's proving his "blackness" by describing an encounter with a cop. that's it
>>54604314
It's like you've read my mind OP. Easily the best thing I've read on /mu/ about either of these two albums.
The sort of white folk that would rate TPAB higher than TPTB are the sort of people who have a stunted and superficial understanding of art.
>>54604696
The sort of people who'd even compare the two you mean. If they didn't come at the same time, nobody would.
>>54604718
>If they didn't come at the same time, nobody would.
Of course not, but you know it's /mu/.
ur not black, don't lie.
ur an uncle tom just like stefan.
![Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet [Front].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kBgmgq9.jpg "Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet [Front].jpg")
This is a lot like the Kendrik album but the music is way better
>>54604750
Pls stop oppressing me white man
>>54604778
Fuckin right
>>54604658
damn, you butchered syntax, logical thought, artistic interpretation and appreciation, creativity, and historical awareness. if you were in a plane youd be 9/11. if you were a virus you'd be ebola. if this thread were a bowl of soup, youd still be ebola. why are you trying to melt our insides, m8?
>>54604314
Well done OP, I liked reading it :)
>>54604314
Hey my nigga, i just wanted to say that im sorry for everything my cracker ancestors done to yall. peace homie.
>>54604899
Fantano pls.
>>54604899
>>54604934
fake, fantano couldn't bring himself to say nigga
>>54605057
On VIDEO
>>54604493
i dont think that really btfos jenny death, if anything it just shows why dg haters are so angry because as low as some of the scores are it still has more pre and post release hype than TPAB
>>54605057
he's said 'niggas on the moon' before in an interview with /mu/tant radio
>>54604579
not that guy but autism is just a word people say when they have no counter argument.
>>54605199
This.
Do people really know what autism is?
It's even more annoying than the "cuck" meme
>>54605057
It's cringey how obviously he said it in the reviews and then dubbed it over. It's hardly going to be considered racist if you say somethings name. Also he wrote niggas on the moon in the video review so why not just say NIGGA you whiteboy
>>54605231
cuck
>>54605199
>>54605231
It's a really stupid insult as well because a huge number of the worlds most successful people were autistic.
>>54605289
>>54605231
>>54605199
fucking autists
>>54604314
you know, i'd normally disagree with you, but on another listen i think you're right. from a purely musical/instrumental standpoint, i think tpab is more my style, but i'm more of an old-school kind of guy anyways. from a cultural standpoint, and on terms of innovation, the powers that b is way ahead
>>54605322
>22
autism pills
>>54605411
>11
autism pills
>>54605444
Nice script bruh
>>54605483
>Nice script bruh
autism pills
>>54605483
im not a writer
Lyrics from Fantano's least favourite track.
>I'm so black quarterback throw off this app by his badge
>Blare my organ for juice spike blonde kinks on my boots
>Approach me licking his fur whining "I demand a word"
>Swine must be the all the way hatched hell yolk raining down his chest
>Clucking so fucking hard glance heartbeat through his vest
>So I'm like, "Go ahead, blood" but my mind's on my wrist
>Five minutes pass I'm a have to make you my piss
>Gimp just kept shaking so I had to braid him like this
>Comfort over freedom, pave a path of leisure have it all
>Freedom over comfort, give you back so much leisure
>Feel small
>Xeroxed man dressed in gauze spider silk and menopause
>Mustache showered with applause squished out packets like taco sauce
>Gather crowd laugh it off Mr. Zogged by your boss
>I'm so black quarterback, air it out, albino Black quarterback in all black he's so white, no I'm so
>Black quarterback in all black, albino
>>54604314
>If I wanted to listen to jazz or funk, I've got Miles Davis, James Brown, Charles Mingus, Herbie Hancock and George Clinton (Kendrick's smartest play) for that.
What a dumb criticism. Why would anyone who loves music limit themselves to six artists to a genre?
>If I wanted to learn about black history or modern day racial tensions, I'd read a book about the civil rights movement or go to a social studies class.
You don't see the value in tackling these issues in music or literature or film? Why do you hate art that examines history?
>>54604314
>but I'm a black man and I'm going to explain to you why
yeah because being black makes you an authority on what's good music
>>54605593
Lyrics from one of Fantano's favorite tracks on an album he gave a 10/10
>When you got the yams (What's the yams?)
>The yam is the power that be
>You can smell it when I'm walking down the street
>(Oh yes we can, oh yes we can)
>I can dig rapping, but a rapper with a ghost writer?
>What the fuck happened?
>(Oh no) I swore I wouldn't tell
>But most of y'all sharing bars like you got the bottom bunk in a two man cell
>(A two man cell?)
>Something's in the water (Something's in the water)
>And if I got a brown nose for some gold then I'd rather be a bum than a motherfuckin' baller
>>54605593
>>54605814
autism pills
>>54605322
perfect example of
>>54605199
>>54605841
perfect example of
>>54605199
>>54605156
>one of Fantano's favorite tracks
he listed all but 2 tracks in his "favorites"
>>54604314
>"To Pimp a Butterfly" is an album designed and marketed to be sold to white people. White people will listen to albums where rappers like Kendrick go on about the struggle of black people and how they were oppressed by whites for centuries, and they'll like it because they feel like talking about what a genius Kendrick is on Facebook and Twitter makes them feel more cultured.
TPTB is an album designed for people who surf /mu/. White people on /mu/ will listen to DG releases like TPTB and they'll like it because they feel like making memes and spamming meme-worthy lyrics substitutes for the sort of discussion people have over other albums and artists.
>>54605841
>>54605858
just take the fucking autism pills, christ redeemer
>>54605841
>>54605858
perfect example of
>>54605831
>>54605858
lol he mad
>>54605814
king kunta :PPP
>>54605814
>Piss piss piss have a sad cum bb
>My favorite color is oh my go bitch lol
>>54605233
It's almost like he's a cuck or something...
>>54605897
lol why are you so upset?
>>54605754
That's 6 out of many hundreds of artists who can do what Kendrick did better than he did. And I'm saying that if you're going to make music about history, you should use some artfulness about it rather than just lecturing with a nasally voice about it. It gets boring hearing about black people non-stop through the album.
DG's first disc has the word 'niggas' in the title and yet they don't use it once on the whole double lp. Kendrick's album uses it seemingly hundreds of times to the point where I get tired of it. And somehow Ride can say 'Up My Sleeves' 30x in a row and I don't mind because it sounds good on the track.
>>54605943
not him but it can be a bit annoying when people don't take their autism pills
>>54605933
you're cherry picking, i literally compared one verse to another (from a track that's one of fantano's favorites on the album, to a track that was fantano's least favorite on another album)
>>54605958
wow it's almost like kendrick is a rapper and not a jazz musician
>>54605814
>>54605593
These sound like acid trip monologues
>>54605975
you're cherry picking too, because fantano named almost every track on TPAB as his favorite
>>54605961
i dont get it
>>54606039
i think its fair :)
>>54606052
you have pills that help supress your autism
take them
ITT: pills
>>54605986
Yes, and I'm saying that while Kendrick did something I remembering The Roots and Jurassic 5 doing when I was 12, Death Grips have basically created a hip-hop album that sounds brand new and takes influences from a ton of places, while still sounding like none of them in the end. PtB is fresh as fuck, very few albums are sonically similar. And it has some incredible lyrics at some points and just ridiculous and catchy hooks at others.
PtB is just way more fun to listen to for me. I've listened to every track of TPaB a few times, but I can't even make it through the whole album in one sitting. It just tires me out. On the other hand, I've been listening to the whole double lp all the way through a ton of times over the week.
>>54606080
what pills?
>>54604314
>white people
asian woman here btw
>>54606225
autism pills
>>54606250
So uh, are you single?
>>54606309
she is dating a calculator.
>>54606262
what are those?
>>54606334
rekt
>tfw autists are making us dg fans look bad
>>54606368
>pepe reaction image
Nah m8, you're making yourselves look bad. You dont need help from autists
>>54606368
>implying anyone here even has the brain capacity to be autistic.
>>54606419
>calls someone autistic
>says m8
literally cancer
go back to watching snipars and browsing /b/
tell snipars to fuck himself for further infecting death grips fanbase.
>>54605958
>And I'm saying that if you're going to make music about history, you should use some artfulness about it rather than just lecturing with a nasally voice about it.
No, you're backtracking because you realize you said something silly. Anyway, I don't find Kendrick any more preachy or incessant than I find DG to be edgy or obscurantist.
>That's 6 out of many hundreds of artists who can do what Kendrick did better than he did.
Not even most of the people you've listed are really rappers. Kendrick didn't make a jazz or funk album. He made a jazz and funk influenced rap album. We have to appraise the album on its own terms.
>>54604314
Of all the shit posts to come out in the last week about these two albums, I think this one is my favorite.
stop everything your ar'e you doing and watch my new video
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>>54606515
i dont understand anything you said m8
>>54606515
>>54606497
>>54606539
Take your autism pills, or I'll call the nurse in to give you a shot.
>Indivisible god lobster laser
>government corroborator
>shine the beam on a space heater
>industry face eater
>close the blinds
>it's time
Wow man Death Grips is like so deep you just aren't a smart enough listener to understand the deep messages man
>>54606334
yes I am dating a calculator much too busy for you
>>54604563
>>54604314
>uses the word Joycean multiple times without going into detail
Please stop talking out of your arse
You're an idiot if all you took from the album was a 'lecture' about the black struggle, the album is an affirmation of self-value even in the face of both personal hypocrisy and oppressive/'pimping' systems. Race is simply the foundation on which Kendrick explores the idea
>>54605873
>Have a Sad Cum
>Beyond Alive
>Centuries of Damn
>>54606576
I love how people have to resort to just plain making shit up.
>>54606707
hell, race is only /A/ foundation on which he explores the idea. the track "u" is hardly about race.
>>54604314
>but I'm a black man and I'm going to explain to you
I seriously loathe motherfuckers like you. I say this as a black guy, not on some "hey bro, leave white people alone man their kewl, post-racial" but because you act as through your input is valid enough to discredit why someone should like something.
TL;DR you're a faggot, and your white girlfriend is fat.
>>54604382
>rap genius said its about race so fandango is a dumby
>>54606707
See >>54606174, >>54605593 and >>54605958 for what I'm talking about comparing what DG did to Kendrick's. TPaB has some nice jams like King Kunta, Alright, Blacker the Berry or i (bogged down by Kendrick lecturing again, and on Mortal Man) but overall a lot of the album sounds preachy and more like a homage to older artists he has learned from. Which isn't really bad, TPaB has solid tracks, but it lacks originality in comparison.
I know I'm not the only one who doesn't find Kendrick Lamar preachy as one would say Hopsin, am I?
>>54606860
>Death Grips "fan"
>hasn't heard the the self titled EP
>favorite releases are probably Exmil and JD
sounds about right
>>54606707
I love myself xD
>>54606999
Nice repeating digits abthony
I don't know. Powers is obviously the better album (especially NotM) but I don't see how people can write off stuff like 'How much a dollar cost' or 'u' as just "preaching to white guilt". A lot of it is more introspective of his own faults rather than lecturing about other people's.
Without even looking at messages or whatever, Kendrick's album is cool because of the way it gradually reveals its story (or whatever) over the course if the album. I don't think it lacks in creativity at all, it's a great album that does some original stuff. That being said, DG is just way ahead of everyone. I mean that sincerely, I don't think they can be touched after this latest release. Both albums are great though, and deserve to be listened to and taken seriously.
Why is everyone saying Kendrick's new album is all "fuck whitey"? Theres more about the hypocrisy of black people than there is about the mistreatment of them. It's a great album. That being said The Powers That B is lightyears ahead of it by every means.
>>54607625
You're right, a lot of people are misunderstanding it. 'Fuck whitey' is a popular concept nowadays so people tend to attach it to things.
has scruffy reviewed tpab ?
>>54604314
I'm a black man and you're another idiot that didn't listen to the album and assume it's all about black politics, race war etc.
It is true that white people eat this shit up though.
>>54607625
Pmuch this
>>54604696
Fucking cheers agreed. Every song off TPTB has so much meat on its bones. The lyrics are dense and MC Ride is so clearly an educated motherfucker. He's a master of subtlety, which is hilarious, because DG has to be one of the most abrasive groups out right now.
>>54605813
The fact that he's black matters to the discussion of race, it's not about his taste in music.
>>54606860
You're polite, that comment didn't even deserve a response.
>>54604314
Fantano's white guilt possessin' ass has a black girlfriend. What do you expect from a pretentious hipster like him?
>>54604750
>someone black acts like a normal human being instead of a stereotypical nigger
>HURR UNCLE TOM WHY AREN'T YOU A "TRUE" BLACK PERSON, HUH
Blacks are more racist than any other race. They literally accuse each other "acting white," as if each race is supposed to act a certain way. How is that not extremely fucking racist?
>>54611925
>They literally accuse each other "acting white,"
As a black person who went to a minority-majority school, you're fucking retarded.
I've never been accused of acting white
Stop cherrypicking.
>>54611925
it's a meme you DIP
>>54605233
Because he's a fucking pussy. If ANYONE takes offense towards VERBAL WORDS (nothing more than vibrating vocal chords and maneuvering of tongue/mouth), then they are the kind of person that looks for ANY reason to act like a self-righteous little shit.
>>54611985
>implying accusing people of acting white isn't incredibly prevalent in black culture
Just look at Azaelia fucking Banks you retard.
>>54611985
>I've never been accused of acting white
>my personal experience is objective fact
>>54612084
>Banks case
>incredibly prevalent in black culture
Didn't anon already mention cherrypicking?
>>54604493
I liked TPAB but Jenny Death is objectively better.
>>54612169
It's literally right in front of your face, just because you haven't experienced it in your life doesn't mean it happens all the fucking time. How have you NEVER seen or heard someone being called an oreo, uncle tom, etc. ?
