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fucking destroyed
This is not real, give me link.
Based Fantano
>>54520371
It is real, not even OP
Just go to his tumblr page
>If black people fuck with my reviews
That’s not Fantano.
>>54520283
this ain't real
this isn't music related take it to /youtube/
>>54520413
>>54520416
Holy shit yes it is
theneedledrop.tumblr.com
>>54520283
Anthony my Bae.
>>54520371
>>54520416
theneedledrop.tumblr.com/post/114060117592/messyshits-emotional-leprosy-white-people
There you go, lazy anons.
>>54520283
I gained a lot of respect for him after this
>if black people fuck with my reviews
>>54520283
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based fantano
>>54520283
that made me like him
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>>54520570
gtfo
and take your memes with you
Based Funtundaloo dropping the knowledge
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>>54520585
by the knowledge you mean, some obvious basic stuff?
>actually caring about meme wars
get out
>>54520612
yes
unfortunately, not obvious enough to some people
>>54520570
ricky please go
>>54520612
He's an YOUTUBER, man, he must know a lot about everything
>Gaining respect for fantano because he overreacted to some uninformed dumbass on tumblr
L M A O
I don't follow his reviews but he's a solid dude it seems
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>>54520660
>an youtuber
>>54520668
put your trip back on and fuck off back to /daily/ thread you jealous faggot
That's all very well and good, but Jenny Death review when?
>>54520436
>theneedledrop.tumblr.com
Shittt didn’t see that coming. Anthony actually has balls, who knew.
>>54520714
He said monday
>>54520714
He said monday
>>54520708
Why dont you fuck off back to the youtube comments section and suck fat nano's bald dick some more.
>>54520714
He said monday
>>54520754
I'm doing that as we speak
>>54520714
He said monday
>>54520283
I just gained some respect for fandango
>>54520714
He said monday.
>>54520714
>>54520748
>>54520753
>>54520767
>>54520776
>>54520799
They said monday.
>>54520283
retards always gonna reet
>>54520714
He said monday
>>54520283
fucking owned hahaha
>>54520473
>>54520556
>>54520795
I just gained some cancer from these posts
weird that iamamiwhoami got dragged into this
>>54520714
He Said Monday
>>54520872
hope you die painlessly bb
>>54520283
i always hated him because of this place but holy fuck he nailed it.
Wait there's people that actually think Darren Wilson wasn't in the right?
>>54520941
This a Fantano thread. Take that shit to /pol/ or /b/
>>54520714
I think he said the day before Tuesday
Oh my god what a fucking savage, the other cunt got shittershattered.
>>54520909
I wish
>>54520973
this is sad
>>54520714
He said the day after Sunday
Cuckposters BTFOOO
>>54520830
this guy said monday
Fantano is just really good at articulating himself, I don't always agree with him, but he's definitely the best music critic out there.
>>54520714
He said three days before Thursday
>>54521118
>really good at articulating himself
>says "farty bassline" and "slathered in reverb" in every review
>constantly has to edit his videos cuz he stutters like a moron
>>54520283
Good one Fagtano. I still think most of your reviews are not respectable enough.
Wait, he supports the Ferguson riots?
>>54521161
trap influenced beats
fluttering high hats and twinkling guitar leads
>>54521161
have you seen the reviews that are done with other people without any edits, or even talks/debates he does on twitch? he's just as articulate when people ask him questions
>>54521118
>but he's definitely the best music critic out there.
stopped reading there because it was the end of your post, but had it continued, i would have stopped as well.
>>54521161
>he mentions musical tropes are that are used a lot
>he edits his videos
>this makes him bad
ok
>>54521118
piero pls
>>54520283
Fantano would be a real one if he didn't treat Cal like shit.
I'm sorry I just can't get behind that
>>54521270
well who is better, because i'd honestly be interested
>>54520283
I told you all
I told you he was a race traitor
Why didn't you listen
>>54520714
He said memeday.
>>54521299
Scaruffi
>>54520283
FUCKING REKT
he's still a fag
>>54521386
>>54521299
scaruffi
>>54521386
Scaruffi doesn't even make videos, he just writes two or three paragraphs and calls it a day.
>>54521347
Get the fuck back to /pol/ white supremacist piece of shit
When do you all just drop dead
>>54521412
>I need 10 minute of emptiness and /mu/ memes
-you.
>>54521299
Any TMT reviewer. There are even RYM reviewers who are better.
>>54521272
They don't make him bad, but they're a symptom of his problems that do.
>>54521410
>>54521386
but scaruffi gave the new lana del rey a 7/10 and the new tim hecker a 5/10
>>54521412
>doesn't even make videos
the way you put it, it seems like you are implying that's a bad thing.
i'll take three paragraphs that go straigth to the point rather than videos with memes and jokes, thanks.
>>54521471
Ultraviolence (Interscope, 2014), produced by the Black Keys' Dan Auerbach, jettisoned the hip-hop beats and, by that single move, achieved a much deeper sense of sincerity. Cruel World is the ultimate cry of loneliness, with psychedelic overtones and reminiscent of Jim Steinman's teen melodramas (the melody spirals up in a manner similar to Bonnie Tyler's hit Total Eclipse Of The Heart). West Coast is a blues lament derailed by details such as a soprano surge and a vintage guitar twang, which appropriately segues into the slow-burning, martial, plantation chant Sad Girl, perhaps the peak of pathos. Shades Of Cool weaves its tenderness around a desperate melismatic yodel, a waltzing tempo and a stoic guitar solo (and well disguised is the influence of Janis Joplin on this structure). It gets even sadder than that, in the funereal Pretty When You Cry, whose grandiose finale borrows from Kate Bush and Pink Floyd. The rest is filler. As a five-song EP, this would have been a masterpiece.
He's right tho
>>54521471
Lana released a new album???? :0
link?
>>54520283
I don't even watch his reviews but that was pretty based
>>54521467
>Any TMT reviewer
im not even a big RTJ fan but this is one of the worst reviews ive ever read in my entire life
>>54520714
GOTTA GET DOWN ON FRIDAY
>>54521527
>The rest is filler. As a five-song EP, this would have been a masterpiece.
>5/15 tracks are good
>rest is filler
>still gives album 7/10
>>54521562
5 songs that are masterpieces deserve a 5 yeah it's basic math lol :p
>>54521297
Cal is a fucking pleb can you imagine having to live with that? Jesus Christ uninstall your life please.
>>54520714
He said Monday
>>54521535
Hoooooooly fuck.... Biggest cringe of the week.
>>54521535
>reviewing reviews
sick meta bro!
>>54521596
if 66% of an album is "filler" no fucking way it'd be worth a 7/10 by scaruffi's standards, regardless of how good the other 33% is
>>54521471
ah, the good ol' game of pointing out specific scores.
fantano gave the following albums an 8 or more:
Cage the Elephant - Melophobia
TNGHT - TNGHT
Foxygen - We Are the 21st Century Ambassadors of Peace & Magic
hey, more than one can play that game, see?
>>54521636
Nice fucking try Anthony. Don't hate him because he's beautiful.
>>54521297
This. And nobody even reported Fantano yet for domestic violence!
>>54521685
>I know better than Scaruffi what Scaruffi likes
>>54521711
wow you seem mad. sorry i insulted your favorite critic. at the end of the day all three of those albums are better than Lana Del Rey's ultraviolence
>going up against a sicilian when death is on the line
>2015
nigga needs to step up
>>54521754
>pulling the "you are mad" card
this is not going to go anywhere, let's stop right now
>>54521754
Do /mu/tants actually listen to lana del rey? Literally high-school girl tier
>>54521535
>How can I show men that stereotypes about women are wrong?
>I know, I'll be a completely humorless, histrionic shrew, who nags everyone all day.
>>54521270
>stopped reading there
well, it was the end of his post, i stopped reading there too
>>54521825
the people at wikipedia are absolutely retarded
>>54521837
>not wanting to be a high school girl
>>54521891
cuck
Sounds like he's been hanging with c-town
>>54521870
uh...
>>54521891
this
>>54521535
why the fuck would they get a feminist woman to review RTJ? what the fuck was she expecting?
>>54520283
>proud of his Sicilian roots
He's lost it
>>54520283
>plays bass
>has a chimp gf
>pro-ferguson riots
>take memerap very seriously
>favorite band is rap for white teenagers
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It's funny how much of a SJW cuck Fatano is for nig nog music but he is pro GamerGate.
>>54521955
and why not?
>Yeah, /mu/ likes me. They hate me, too. Meanwhile, you sound like you’d fit right in at /pol/. I’m sure there’s an Anti-Ferguson thread there you could cosign right now.
Love this response. People love to hate.
blue deserved more than a 6 tho
>>54521955
They didn't "get" a feminist woman, she was part of the review staff. What was she expected to pretend to like those aspects of the album?
>>54522019
God, if you're gonna shitpost with dumb meme text at least do it right:
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>>54521961
this is gonna meme so hard
>>54522045
Some people are still deluded into thinking GG is "about ethics in games journalism" and not about angry, bitter virgins
>>54522045
why wouldn't these go hand in hand?
I unsubscribed when he gave Blue a 6
>>54522122
g7rb7m8
>>54522019
>Can't even do meme acrostics
Did you pass 3rd grade?
>>54520681
underrated post
>>54521347
>italians
>white
>>54522153
Because GG is full of white supremacists and misogynists and Fantano is only "progressive" when it comes to black people.
>>54522153
Most GamerGamers DON'T want black/LGBT/women in their games
>>54521386
LOL
Literally the shittiest reviewer (not critic).
>>54522205
northern ones are, but yeah i agree
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>>54521299
marcel
>>54522060
Would you get a feminist to review Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP?
>>54522094
Why did they make her of all people on the writing staff write the review?
Also since when has /mu/ been filled with tumblirte SJW. They're probably going to respond to this post with "go back to /pol/"
>>54522236
Tell me, which rating hurted your poopy?
Kid A ? NLDW? Richard d james?
>>54522216
i though gg was about womens' delusions that people are white supremacists and misogynists.
>all those black people reblogging it
guys, anthony just cucked this girl with black tumblr
>>54522303
>Would you get a feminist to review Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP?
Maybe? Are feminists excluded from having opinions? Should review sites only employ MRA writers?
I bet you think that RTJ2 review was an example of "censorship" too.
>>54522378
I think feminists should be excluded from living
>>54522378
>Should review sites only employ MRA writers?
Yeah brah lets go from one extreme to the other.
How about hire some level headed writers to review shit on your fucking magazine to have some fucking credibility?
>>54522337
Nah, it's about you getting the fuck back to KotakuInAction where you can't bother anyone else.
>>54522303
Well, I've always seem TMT as a fairly "alternative" music reviews site, and they seem to aim for fresh perspectives on music. In that sense that review was a "fresh" perspective because often music review sites get lost in all the cultural signifiers and language of hip-hop forgetting that it contains a lot of misogyny which they are usually against in other music. To not recognize that every once in a while would be hypocritical.
It's not like everyone railed against RTJ2 for this, it was practically a novelty review compared to all the other accolades.
When people object to these kinds of reviews I see that they usually argue that they are not "objective," but a review cannot possibly be objetive. This term really just means "the review takes into account things that aren't relevant to me as a listener." In which case you should probably seek a different review.
>>54522423
You sound upset
Too bad you can't block people here like you can on Twitter, huh?
i think it should be mandatory for all music sites with a large amount of reviewers to have multiple reviews for each release; having one person's butthurt opinion be it is retarded
>>54522416
Whether someone is a good writer or not has nothing to do with their beliefs. Rap albums deserve feminist critique. That's part of being a serious art form.
Besides, don't your type complain about how feminists never attack hip hop? Now that one of those evil feminists has it's a huge problem.
>>54522472
Nah, I don't use twitter cause I don't spend my time rallying for or against completely worthless movements.
>>54522549
If they're worthless why are you crying about them right now?
>>54522549
Except when you bitch about them here
>>54522378
The opinion of a feminist on MMLP is of less value to fans of the artist.
Might as well let a nazi grandma review a wu tang album
>>54522504
So you're telling me feminists are so retarded they can't get something as transparently ironic as RTJ2 (which, ask either one of them on twitter and they'll tell you the album is the way it is on purpose).
>>54522562
I'm not crying about it, but let's not pretend GG isn't full of angry virgins. Otherwise no one gives a shit about your stupid fucking movement. So please don't turn this thread into this retarded nonsense. Grow the fuck up and get a job, no one gives a shit about videogames.
>judging people by the content of their character
>isn't ashamed of being born white
UGH FUCKING SHITLORDS, CHECK UR PRIV
>>54522597
>Otherwise no one gives a shit about your stupid fucking movement.
>no one gives a shit about videogames.
[citation needed]
>>54522597
>I'm not crying about it
That really doesn't line up with the rest of your post, anon
>>54522303
>Would you get a feminist to review Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP?
I really don't get what's the problem here. Any good reviewer is gonna pay attention to a broader context of a release. I don't even look at people as being X or non-X, it's kinda retarded cause it's about perspectives instead of persons. It's only certain readers that then construct "a feminist" out of a review cause the perspective bothers them so they got to moralize i.e. find someone guilty.
>>54522579
>of less value
A review does not have to be a purely utilitarian work, it can be a work of art on its own
>>54522595
Ironic misogyny is still misogyny... "oh I was pretending to be a misogynist!" gimme a break
>>54521825
top kek
CAN WE /PLEASE/ JUST TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I WANT TO FUCK CAL CHUCHESTA
>>54522504
>being a serious art form deserves feminist critique
Feminist critique is not even a serious form of critique, get a fucking grip.
>>54522641
That's gay anon
Are you gay?
>>54522635
So you're telling me someone portraying a misogynist as a way to criticize it or parody it should not be allowed?
>>54522635
goddamn SJW's make me fucking sick, and i hate /pol/fags by the way
when shit hit the fan is you still a fan?
>>54522635
>a review can be a work of art on its own
This is one of the most if not the most deluded thing I've ever read in this shithole.
>>54522504
>Rap albums deserve feminist critique.
>don't your "type"
Yeah we're done here.
>>54522676
Not that anon, but it depends on the context, including how well the context is communicated.
>>54522303
>Also since when has /mu/ been filled with tumblirte SJW.
About 5 years at least.
>>54522676
>should not be allowed
There you go with that language. Why do people so often equate criticism to censorship? They are not the same. No one is calling for the censorship of El-P and Killer Mike.
>>54522695
Why not? Seriously, give me a reason why a written work by a human being commenting on a work of art cannot be, on its own, art.
>>54522711
If you don't get the context in which something is being said is not the work's fault, this is something I've yet to see a single feminist understand, if the message is stated by other analysts and sustained through things stated in the work in question then there's no excuse.
>>54522595
No, I'm not telling you anything but feminists should be able to critique hip hop. I don't know enough about RTJ2 to know if you're full of shit or not about this "transparently ironic" sexism. That said, I find that most "ironic" sexism is still sexist and I'm not sure a genre plagued with misogyny needs more "ironic" sexism.
>>54522579
That's great. I'm sure fans of Eminem would like it if Eminem wrote his own reviews and gave all his albums 10s. That would make for a terrible review though. Thankfully not all critique has to be written with the fans of the art in mind.
>>54521955
>what was she expecting
not misogyny, but RTJ isn't misogynist anyways kek
>>54522597
>no one gives a shit about videogames.
>multi-billion-dollar industry
>one game from 2013 became the fastest-selling entertainment product of all time (not even just games)
>>54522680
>yfw they are 2 sides of the same coin
Wish they would kill each other off
>mfw I can say what ever the fuck I want to who ever I want because I look Jewish
>mfw white people try to call me privileged and I tell them I'm gay and I had family die in the holocaust
>mfw they crumble and instantly starting apologizing
>mfw I'm not even jewish or gay
>>54522744
>Equate criticism to censorship?
Criticism when I like it
"shaming" when I don't
nobody's saying you should be taken to the supreme court, they're just calling you an asshole
>>54522744
Because a review shouldn't have an artistic intent of its own, it defeats its purpose, are you really this stupid? I don't give a fuck if you want to make your English Literature major seem anything other than absolutely worthless, you don't let that permeate your assessment of a work of art.
>>54522795
stop shilling you degenerate freedom hating kike
>>54522843
stay mad, faggot
>>54520714
I heard Tuesday
>>54522825
lol, you should seriously take this to the staff of TMT and see what they think.
If you want strictly utilitarian, capsule reviews that talk about nothing outside of the album, what in the world are you doing browsing TMT and similar sites?
>I don't, I'm just angry about this thing that doesn't affect me
Ah
>>54522830
Nice reply you gigantic imbecile.
>>54522843
DON'T FUCKING MANSPLAIN TO ME CISSY
>>54522843
you're triggering me with your dirty patriarchal uncensored mansplanation.
>>54522744
When your criticism is based on ignorance of even the most basic information about the album it's completely worthless
>>54522774
Of course you don't. you're an ignorant retard trying to talk about things you don't know about.
>>54522861
is this really from a /pol/ meetup?
>>54520714
He said "monday"
>>54522744
Because a review is applying practicality to your opinion.
Artistic license inherently has no practicality, so a review with being artistic as it's intent is practically worthless.
Yeah, your literary structure could be spotless and your articulation top of the fucking line but in the end it's about your fucking opinion and a practical recommendation on who you recommend it to.
A review isn't fucking poetry where you can abstract because people read reviews to be informed not 'inspired'.
>>54522866
There was nothing to respond to.
>>54522774
>That's great. I'm sure fans of Eminem would like it if Eminem wrote his own reviews and gave all his albums 10s. That would make for a terrible review though. Thankfully not all critique has to be written with the fans of the art in mind.
I never implied that it has to be written by some eminem stan. I'm just saying that people who are into hip hop would value a person's opinion if it was rooted in knowledge of the artist as well as the genre as a whole.
Misogyny is a disgusting thing, i agree with you there anon. But to critique an album for "not having enough room for feminism" is fucking retarded because you could basically have the same critique for 90% of classic hip hop albums
>>54521825
Pic related
>>54522897
why are people okay with like death metal and shit but when rappers portray fucked up shit, often the realities of violence they were surrounded by and shit, they get criticized the fuck out of
>>54522864
I fucking hate this fallacy, I can talk from a broad perspective about what is expected from reviews, if you're going to try to have any sort of artistic intent in a review it goes at odds with the reason that reviews exist in the first place, not to mention it's creatively bankrupt trying to portray artistic intent when reviewing anything. You stick to the facts pal.
>>54522662
Anon is probably just the average, healthy, well adjusted female.
>mfw people actually take music reviews seriously
What kind of simpleton bases their opinions on an artist/album on what someone else said? Listen to the album and form your own opinion.
>>54522937
Then fucking don't you passive-agressive cunt.
>>54522897
Of course I don't what? What am I speaking of that I don't know about? I admitted that I don't know much about RTJ2 so I'm not talking about that album in particular. That said, there's no reason why any hip hop album good or bad shouldn't receive feminist critique.
>>54520714
hie sed mundae
>>54520681
It even reads just like the song.
>>54522979
Back when album's had to be bought to be listened to they had a purpose.
>>54520714
he said sunday
>>54522897
Like seriously fuck
>>54523009
When your "feminist critique" is seriously so off-base that you don't even the simplest fucking shit
I mean, seriously.
some white kid writes a metal song about killing jesus in hell: "oh how creative!"
a black man writes a song reflecting the gang violence and misogyny he was surrounded by: "WOW THIS IS WHY WE NEED FEMINISM SO WE CAN GET RID OF MEN LIKE THESE"
>>54522897
A reviewer can choose to take the album for what it is or consider the background information. But on the album, is there any difference between someone playing a douchebag and being a douchebag? Aren't you supposed to be reviewing "just" the album anyway? Isn't that what you want?
>>54522930
You should read the Pitchfork Kid A review. Remember when P4K pulled stunts like that all the time? TMT is like that still. P4K has become more reined-in and utilitarian as the years passed and its readership grew. You may be more at home there.
One can discuss the purpose of a review for ages but really everyone has their own approach. On RYM you'll find strictly cut-and-dry reviews of albums as well as free-flowing abstract prose on childhood memories. You can choose whichever suits you best.
>>54522960
We are digressing from the topic a little. This review in particular wasn't even a particular flight of fancy. It was an approach to the album from a feminist perspective. The problem is simply that you don't consider that a valid perspective. But that is more your problem. This is not a violation of the nonexistent "music review rules" in your head.
>>54523009
Other than injecting politics into a fucking music review is bad practice
>>54522949
That's nice, but you're making a fatal mistake in thinking that any feminist critique can't also be generally knowledgeable of the artist or genre. Why can't a feminist hip hop fan write a valid criticism of hip hop? Why can't one critique an album because it could also apply to "90%" of classic hip hop? Should someone ignore the anti-semetic overtones in Mel Gibson's films because "you could basically have the same critique" for a shit load of classic literature and art through the ages? That seems like such a poor defense.
Better yet, why does someone need intricate knowledge of hip hop to notice misogyny? It seems to be a common defense to me... "you just don't get it" but I'm not sure how much basis that has. Do you need to be a passionate fan of the Ku Klux Klan to write a book about the history of the Klan?
>>54521056
hahahaha
no seriously, do some fucking research. Or learn how the fucking 4th amendment works.
>>54523075
Who are you referring to?
>>54521535
Terrible.
>>54523090
Please stop trivializing rape using expressions as "violation" you shitlord.
>>54523140
>Do you need to be a passionate fan of the Ku Klux Klan to write a book about the history of the Klan?
i would expect you to at least know more about them than the average person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NapKXpr5ZI8
>>54523173
That wasn't even a clever retort
>>54523140
Let's say you're a historian, and you write some shit on the history of the Klan and it's just "THEY LYNCHED SOME NIGGERS THEN THEY LYNCHED SOME OTHER NIGGERS THEN THEY STOPPED BECAUSE CIVIL RIGHTS"
It will technically be correct, but NOBODY will say you're a good historian
>>54523058
I didn't write the TMT review. I've told you several times I have no opinion of RTJ2 yet you're posting these twitter screenshots as if you're refuting a non-existent position I've taken.
>>54523105
Bad practice according to whom? You? Evidently TMT does not have a problem with this practice and if you don't like that I'd suggest you stop reading that site. I don't think any art should be exempt from academic/social critique. I'd feel terrible thinking that we can't ever discuss the message behind music since it has an effect on our culture.
>>54522433
What if this guy is actually Fantano?
>>54521222
I doubt very many "supported" the riots. It was just inevitable. It's what happens when you are forced into the bottom with no way of expressing yourself without being marginalized.
>>54523238
Name the last album that had an effect on American culture
>>54523224
I'm 100% serious, it's fucking ridiculous that you'd defend feminist critique (which isn't even a real form of critique) in the same paragraph you'd use violating anything as a figure of speech.
I can almost smell the hipocrisy from here.
>>54523203
why does his camera distort so much?
>>54521535
Why did someone feel the need to circle parts of it, as if I can't read?
Someone got bootyblasted
>>54523183
My point is that you can know a lot about hip hop without being a fan of it. That's why I feel annoyed that you think reviews should be written to appeal to hip hop fans. You can be knowledgeable about a subject without being a huge fan of it and that might give you a different perspective.
>>54523291
Auto-stabilization
>>54523275
Did you at some point read some Tumblr feminist say that using the word "violation" is potentially triggering or are you just making this whole thing up in your head?
Feminism has many schools and outlooks because it is a century-old school of thought, and there are many dumb persons on the internet who fancy themselves feminists.
However, to say that feminism is not a valid form of critique is to go against basically all of academia for the past half-century at least. Literature, film, music, drama, poetry are regularly critiqued from a feminist perspective.
>>54523237
What point are you even trying to make?
good shit, now I'm subscribing and buying a tshirt lol lol lol
>>54523331
So you want someone to review something he doesn't understand the appeal of? this is idiotic.
>>54523362
My point is if you want to be a fucking CRITIC OF SOMETHING YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY FUCKING KNOW ABOUT IT
Holy shit he just started the Internet happening.
Somebody post this to /pol/
>>54520413
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>>54520371
http://theneedledrop.tumblr.com/post/114060117592/messyshits-emotional-leprosy-white-people#notes
>>54520473
me too.
>>54523237
Okay, but a book detailing the history of the Ku Klux Klan would at least attempt an impartial perspective and be extremely well-informed by necessity. A review is not the same thing.
Once again there is this need for objectivity coming from you where there is none. You know what an "objective" review would be like? A fact sheet of the album title, track list, producers, songwriting credits, and so on. That's what you want I guess?
>>54521837
She's a lot better than most pop artists IMO, simply because it's a little slower and more somber, sometimes sad and dark. She's ok.
>>54523269
All music does, it often represents aspects of our culture and can help to perpetuate it. I can't give you any exact examples because that's not really quantifiable. Surely you can appreciate that music does reflect the culture we live in.
That's why critiquing art in this way is not just picking on one artist, it's picking on a mentality that plagues society.
>>54523358
>Did you at some point read some Tumblr feminist say that using the word "violation" is potentially triggering or are you just making this whole thing up in your head?
What are you on about? It trivializes rape, get a fucking grip.
>Feminism has many schools and outlooks because it is a century-old school of thought
They can't even agree on their methodology, this shit is idiotic, it's a pseudo-stance since there's nothing holding it together other than a gynocentric approach to culture that is biased and even dismissive of other points of view pretty much every single time
>However, to say that feminism is not a valid form of critique is to go against basically all of academia for the past half-century at least. Literature, film, music, drama, poetry are regularly critiqued from a feminist perspective.
So we went from post-structuralism to this bullshit? Good riddance, no wonder nobody cares about making good fiction anymore, they just need to fill a diversity quota.
>>54520714
He said tomorrow, which is a monday.
>>54523020
hi cal
so does anyone have a link to TPaB?
>>54523373
No. I didn't say that. Could you stop with the straw arguments? I said that criticism of art doesn't have to be written to appeal to fans of the art. My point is that feminist critique of hip hop can be valid regardless of whether the writer is a "fan" or not because that doesn't have anything to do with either their level of knowledge or their ability to understand why it appeals to people.
>>54523090
>P4K has become more reined-in and utilitarian as the years passed and its readership grew
Barely, I rely more on opinion on fucking discogs than a magazine.
>>54523403
Good, looks like we're in agreement. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
>>54520714
He said Monday.
>>54523492
lmao are you the guy who was bitching about fallacies earlier?
I have some bad news for you anon....
Baww Fantano knows we like him :S
>>54520283
Why are liberal cucks still shilling for the Ferguson "protestors" even after Eric Holder's DOJ reported that Darren Wilson dindu nuffin and that the "hands up don't shoot" meme was a product of runaway nigger imagination?
>>54521535
>judging a hip-hop album on the basis of "respecting women" by comparing a "country" synthpop album designed to appeal to women from one of the biggest female entertainers
>>54522399
watch that edge, bro
>>54523550
Well, when you're arguing that you don't need intricate knowledge of hip-hop to criticize it, it makes you look like a retard, because it would be technically correct but superficial and worthless
>>54523583
Great fucking reply, idiot.
God why do I waste my time with you fucking imbeciles that can't even hold an idea together for two posts.
>>54521825
this really fucking exists
lol blue was a 4 at best
>>54523613
No, seriously, I think we should round up every feminist on the planet and we should give them the choice of getting raped and living or getting raped and then dying.
>>54522423
Wait, are you for, against, or don't care about this? You're really sending mixed signals.
>>54523615
That depends what the critique is. Do I need intricate knowledge of metal to criticize a metal song about white nationalism? No. Do I need intricate knowledge of metal to make a comment about metal as a whole? Yeah, that would be a good idea.
>>54523455
>I can't give you examples because I literally have no argument
>>54523238
>I'd suggest you stop reading that site.
STOP OPPRESSING ME SHITLORD
POPULAR CULTURE NEEDS TO PANDER TO *ME*
