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FUCKING PANNED
>Yeezus is better according to these fucks
>>54412075
>NO 10
>IMPLYING WORSE THAN GKMC
FUCK OFF P4k
Aaaand let's go back to having /mu/ prefer GKMC in 3...2...1...
ITS OVER
KENDRICK IS RUINED
NEVER FORGET
POST OTHER ALBUMS BETTER THAN KENDRICK AHAHAHAH
>>54412109
well it is better
>/mu/ suddenly listens to pitchfork
what happened?
>>54412154
i can't believe they gave such a shit album 9.5
>9.3
>Panned
Jesus christ you guys are all delusional as hell, Go back to /v/ for fucks sake.
I'd say 9.3 was generous. This album is like an 8.2 imo.
hahahahah what a complete piece of shit, nice try fucking nigger, everyone knows rap is a white mans game now.
>>54412075
>caring about bitchfork
>2015
>>54412185
You forgot how to detect post irony, that's what happened anon.
>>54412166
yeezus is definitely not better than Madvillainy though
>>54412207
This album is exactly a 4.3. Prove me wrong.
>>54412154
GKMC. But that one having a higher score actually makes sense
>>54412207
The hype on this album is so exaggerated that anything less than a 10 would be considered a pan to people
>>54412154
Of course it didn't get higher than Yeezus, p4k won't get off Kanye's dick. The only thing that will be higher than Yeezus will be another Kanye album
Jesus, this is some bullshit derivative Buzzword driven writing.
WHY THE FUCK DOES /MU/ ENJOY P4K?
>>54412075
Lol wow
This would've been an undeniable 10 if Kanye's name on it. Memefork will never not be a joke
>>54412166
>people actually believe this
>>54412226
i'm gonna use this thread to talk about this cuz i don't feel like making one
i listened to madvillainy. it's awesome. great collab on the part of doom and madlib, they mesh together really well.
but why is it considered such a legendary album? i loved it, but i didn't think of it as a 10/10 blow my dick off album
please explain to a hiphop plebeian why madvillainy is a 10/10 musical standard
>>54412261
lol get a load of this newfag reading pitchfork reviews
>>54412185
>what happened
>nightly p4k threads
>constant talk about p4k
pretty much been that way since its inception
>>54412233
>>54412207
You're both wrong, it's 14.99
I honestly can't believe they gave this a lower score than Yeezus
Oh man.
>>54412154
Adjusted for the fact that Ryan Dombal didn't review TPAB and /did/ review Yeezus, this album is at least a 14.8/10 based on current D-factor inflation rates.
They can't let it have a higher score than Sufjan Stevens. Carrie & Lowell confirmed for 9.5
more like .93
>>54412307
not a knock to this album though, just shows the crazy inflation of yeezus' score
>>54412310
>>54412331
RYAN
IS
THE
ONLY
CONSTANT
>>54412341
but white guilt mate
>>54412137
>implying Pitchfork's opinion is held in higher regard than based Fantano's
>>54412302
kek. Good one m8
What the fucking fuck does '9.3' mean? I fucking hate this type of scoring.
>>54412075
>barely better than Benji
WHEN PITCHFORK PANS IS YOU STILL A FAN?
>>54412341
They won't
can't let anything get higher than Yeezus while its almost Yeezy season ;^)
>>54412382
It means P4K has interests to preserve like saving their 10 for Jenny Death or Kanye's new shit.
WHAT THE FUCK PITCHFORK THIS SHIT IS A 10 GO FUCK YOURSELF IM SO MAD WHAT THE FUCK NOW KENNY LAM LAM WILL NEVER GET THAT 95+ ON METACRITIC WHAT THE FUCK MAN IM SHAKING THIS IS BULLSHIT
>mfw GKMC > TPAB will now be the popular opinion thanks to p4k drones/plebs
>>54412226
it's like comparing apples and bananas
>>54412154
HAIL KING YEEZY
>>54412291
Completely agree, 8.8/10 in my opinion
>>54412367
this is the lamest fantano post i've seen yet
>>54412408
They're not gonna give TPTB anything above an 8, maybe an 8.5
They gave niggas on the moon 6.7
I'm legitimately surprised, I just listened to it twice and it seems like exactly the album that Pitchfork would give a perfect 10.
>>54412226
If Madvillainy gets reissued, it'll easily get a 10.
with the hype, I expected something not annoying. all I got was some nigger yelling at me in a high pitched voice. why, mu?
>>54412291
It was the right album at the right time. At the time it was a breath of fresh air and really well done.
>10/10 musical standard
who says that and who cares? it's really good. why care about the number?
GOTTA MAKE KANYE LOOK STRONG, P4K
>>54412393
underrated toast
>>54412261
the review doesn't matter when it comes to pitchfork, all that matters is the score
Does anyone here genuinely think white guilt is the reason this album is being so highly acclaimed?
>>54412421
that's been my opinion the whole time though. get your head outta the hype man
GREAT JOB PITCHFUCK
GOTTA RIDE THAT KANYE DICK HARD
>>54412310
actually accurate
>this kills the cuckoldry
>>54412519
half of /mu/ came from /pol/
>>54412572
half of /mu/ came from KTT and /r/hiphopheads
>>54412462
But JD is (allegedly) Death Grips' swan song. Not only is it likely DG saved their best shit for it, but also p4k is more likely to preserve their legacy by overrating the fuck out of it.
>>54412572
>>54412579
No wonder nobody on this board gets along
>>54412310
Achtung Baby is a classic and their best record, though. Why is this what you pick as controversial with stuff like Yeezus?
>>54412579
Almost all of /mu/ comes from /b/, reddit and KTT
THOU SHALL NOY WORSHIP FALSE PROPHETS
ALL HAIL THE KING
FUCKING LEL
KENDRIC WASNT LIBERAL ENOUGH FOR THEM
>Kendrick’s principle of personal responsibility has treaded dangerously close to respectability politics lately, especially after a prickly remark about the Mike Brown shooting in a recent Billboard interview that seemed to pin the death on the victim, but To Pimp a Butterfly avoids that trap. (Mostly.) links to the end of blacker the berry
FUCKING LEL
>>54412596
no one here has listened to anything released before 2010. get out of here gramps
welp 9.3 is the new 7.6 guys
woo
>>54412596
U2 are a shitty band
Their best album is really on par with Kanye's worst work (Yeezus).
Post albums that are better than Cuckdick's and deservedly so.
>>54412614
wow so if Kendrick mentioned Mike Brown this would have gotten a 9.5
>>54412586
7.8 calling it
They're still bitter about them skipping out on the last Pitchfork fest, and not giving them any interviews.
>>54412393
9.3/10 quip m8
>>54412486
lel
>>54412614
The SJW are the next enemy of black people as they realize they're false allies.
>when shit hit the fan is you still a fan
>>54412473
Reissue reviews are pitchfork covering their own asses in hindsight. I bet down the road if TPAB ever gets one it'll be a 10
what a shit album
>>54412154
Kendrick btfo
>>54412648
Nah they're just trying to give some context. If anything it made the score higher because some people expected him to go the Bill Cosby "maybe if you pulled up your pants racism will go away" direction
>>54412641
So pandrick got p&
This gives Kendrick room and motivation to grow even more and keep making better albums.
Kanye will never top MBDTF and that's not even a question because of its legendary status mostly caused by the ten.
now its perfectly set up for a sufjan 10
>>54412614
>KENDRIC LAMAR VICTIM BLAMER
>KENDRIC LAMAR VICTIM BLAMER
>KENDRIC LAMAR VICTIM BLAMER
9.3 from P4K
10 from Fantano
Holy shit Swans has been dethroned as the most acclaimed album by /mu/'s 2 primary review sources
>>54412718
except he's already on the decline
>>54412473
Didn't J Dilla's Donuts get a low score way back when?
>>54412743
P4K writer go to bed.
>>54412614
>tfw p4k LITERALLY called Pharrell a "house nigger" after he talked about the need for blacks to take personal responsibility for their lives
can we just talk about how the review hardly even discussed the music and just throws around a context and "meaning" of the album?
it makes sense that they gave mbdtf a 10, because that was kanye at his most compelling as a public icon. pitchfork in general just tends to focus on the context and meanings of the albums and not the actual entertainment of it.
>>54412302
christ. kendrick is jewish as fuck
>>54412640
i don't even like U2 but kill yourself
>>54412764
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/631-new-blackness-pharrell-kanye-and-jay-z-and-the-spectre-of-white-aspiration/
>>54412744
7.9
>>54412519
If that was true Azealia Banks' album would have been just as highly acclaimed. Kendrick's album is just that good.
>>54412715
Bump for interest.
>>54412109
It is infinitely better
>>54412718
Lel please tell me you kidding? I doubt he gives that much a fuck about p4k you drone
>>54412808
Azaelia got a fucking 8/10
That album is realistically a 4/10
>>54412075
usually don't really care about reviews but the fact that this wasn't deemed better than yeezus shows what actual garbage p4k is
Yeezus took risks and was way more enjoyable. TPAB is boring and repetitive. I'm white so don't take my opinion to heart. Just my $0.02
>>54412744
It got a 7-something and then in it's later reissue it got a 10.
Not nearly as bad as Daft Punk's Discovery getting a 6.4, and then when it was time for the best album of the decade list it placed third (over Wilco who got a 10).
>>54412075
"To Pimp a Butterfly is a celebration of the audacity to wake up each morning to try to be better, knowing it could all end in a second, for no reason at all."
is this serious?
>>54412718
Kanye himself topped MBDTF before MBDTF was even released through LR.
>>54412641
drone music should not be scored or reviewed
>>54412867
I don't really get why you guys get so mad about this stuff. Do you still love all the same stuff you did a few years ago? Our tastes change/evolve and often we'll either start loving stuff we used to not care about or stop caring about things we used to love. It's really not that hard to get
>>54412641
as memey as these albums are, at least they're better than TPaB
>>54412864
>TPAB is boring and repetitive
You gotta let the funk in you
>>54412764
Edited: Jay Z said that claiming a dominance over the issue of color is akin to appealing to the white mainstream media that wants to look at racism as an issue of the past. Safy-Hallan Farah is the person who wrote the article. She doesn't "literally call Pharrell a house nigger" she asks, "Is Pharrell a house nigger?" Btw Safy-Hallan Farah is black.
>>54412913
all 4 of these albums are amazing
why do you autists fight over everything
Ok so are you guys gonna stop taking p4k seriously now?
this happens every single time an album gets a 9+
>>54412393
9.3/9.3
>muh king kendrick
what's a king to a god
>>54412614
the ride truly will never ever come to an end
>>54412852
Jesus, you are dense for someone into literature. You’re thinking on the surface level. You’re thinking, “If Kanye says something that comes across as clever or insightful, it’s deep.” But that’s such a pre-modern way to look at art. The way he interacts with the listener, building and subverting metamusical expectations, commenting on multiple metamusical, sociopolitical and personal subjects with single lines is brilliant. What work has played jump rope with the line between irony and sincerity as effectively as Yeezus? From the opening seconds of On Sight, to the chorus of I Am A God, to the final spoken sample of Bound 2, no other work of any medium has worked with such an ambiguity of awareness of its context. I’m not saying Yeezus is brilliant because it showcases great technical compositional proficiency or especially novel aesthetic innovations (though autotuned Chief Keef, Justin Vernon, ’80s guitars and trap beats have never been fused so artfully), I’m saying its ability to project outwardly from itself and work in a space so self-aware (yet somehow sometimes simultaneously ham-handedly solipsistic) that it shatters any post-post-modern dichotomy between affectation and sincerity sets it apart from other works of art. The whole album skips back and forth over the “is this dude serious?” line, only for Bound 2 to answer with a resounding “we have no fucking clue.” Where the recent metamodernists have decided that continual sinusoidal oscillation between critical points of intense sincerity and irony is a valid solution to the nihilism inherent in extreme postmodernity, Kanye instead manipulates for the oscillation of the listener’s perception rather than affecting a self-defeatingl y earnest oscillation of himself. In this way, Yeezus can be seen as a work of meta-metamodernism. To call the album “ahead of its time” would be a vast understatement.
>>54412961
welcome to /mu/
>>54412981
10/10 pasta
So Help Me God 9.4 calling it
>>54412938
this
let's be real though, Yeezus is much better than To Pimp a Butterfly
>>54412814
>reissue
P4K always boosts reissue scores by like 2 points
>>54412764
Pretty sure p4k has Kanye in their sjw sights now after he said "racism is a dated concept", no one is safe from the pan.
>>54412981
This pasta is better than the actual album. Kolsti>Kanye
>>54413030
>implying
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/687-who-said-it-god-or-kanye/
Yeezus wasn't ahead of its time, it was exactly on time.
>>54412938
i think its because of the hype TPAB got. people who were disappointed or feel it didnt live up to the hype find in necessary to compare it to other albums and fight over whats "better" .
>>54413065
THE SUPERIOR ALBUM
>>54412906
>>54412940
I definitely can't answer for how everyone else sees p4k but I love reading that site purely for the news and politics.
It's only one person's opinions that are put into a review. There have been many reported cases of different writers at p4k claiming they would have given an album a much higher or lower review.
But even though it's just opinion it IS pretty fun and bizarre to ponder about a website's ability to control listeners. Every BNM gets a huge spike in sales and visibility.
I almost find it comparable to watching the news. You might already have your thoughts on a subject figured out but isn't it fun to read other people's opinons? Does anyone else read p4k purely to get a different opinion on a piece of art?
I mean correct me if I'm wrong here. Who here reads p4k to actually be told what to listen to and who here reads p4k purely to see someone else's opinion?
>>54412154
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>54412906
Not mad I just find it interesting how hard their tastes changed to consider 2 albums they gave mediocre scores to became potential 10s. Makes me wonder what goes on inside their building if they didn't even get BNMs.
>>54413065
>Modern Vampires of the City
>9.3 Yeezus Slayer
2013 repeat
>>54412768
>Pitchfork reviews are horrid
tetsuo and youth, TPAP, so help me god.. this year is so good for hip hop holy shiet
>>54413065
>In Rainbows & TPAB get 9.3
>inferior predecessors HTTT & gkMC get 9.5
I think you're on to something
>>54413208
>GKMC
>inferior
gr8 b8 m8
>>54413208
>implying HTTT is inferior to In Rainbows
top lel, HTTT was WAY better.
>>54412768
seriously this. its fucking 80 minutes too. how the fuck are you gonna talk about all of it in 6 paragraphs
>>54412768
so fucking true.
I love reading how many paragraphs are dedicated to context and public image in comparison to how many songs are discussed.
>that horrible todd terje review only described 2 songs
>tkol review touches on each individual song chronologically
where is the consistency
I'm just fucking relieved one taste authority has kept their sanity. This album is great but it's no Yeezus and now there's no debating that. Thank god.
>>54412291
Look at the year it came out.
Shit sounded like it was from the future. It kind of was.
>>54412837
Sure but no one's blaming that album of getting attention cuz of "white guilt." Run The Jewels isn't popular cuz of "white guilt."
>>54412973
Kings actually exist for one.
>>54412154
Yeezus is actually better though. I mean if you consider music critically and aren't some uneducated guy fishing for Youtube hits, that is.
in retrospect, it's very surprising to me that p4k didn't give MPP a 10
like...how could they not? and what's the point of a 9.6, anyway?
also, have they done any 9.7 9.8 or 9.9's?
please link if so
DAILY REMINDER THAT PITCHFORK WORKS LIKE THIS:
1) SOMEONE WRITES A REVIEW OF THE ALBUM
2) EVERYONE ON THE STAFF LISTENS TO IT AND GIVES IT A SCORE, AND ALL THE SCORES ARE AVERAGED OUT
SOURCE: A FRIEND WHO HAD HIS ALBUM REVIEWED BY PITCHFORK. THIS IS HIS BEST GUESS
>>54413226
HTTT is too long and has way too much filler.
In Rainbows has House of Cards which is filler to some but it feels sooo good to me.
>>54412596
>Achtung Baby is a classic and their best record
LOL
That record is when they started going to shit. They hadn't gone full retard yet, but the signs were there. Bono was high on his on his own shit after that album.
What an outrage, music is ruined.
>>54413313
If that were actually true that'd be a pretty damn interesting system.
>>54413313
>>54413313
that's not how it works at all, individual reviewers provide the scores.
Source: friend is a reviewer
implying there's a single moment on To Pimp a Butterfly that rivals
>middle section of On Sight
>screams on I Am A God
>ending of New Slaves
>ending of Hold My Liquor
>Blood on the Leaves drop
>>54413329
hella true
Jenny Death 9.4 screenshot this
>>54413290
which could be stylized into "what's a god to a non-believer?" but you had to ruin it
>>54412109
It's much better. Most people who don't like Yeezus don't get it.
>>54413355
>MASSA TAKE THE CHAINS OFF ME
>>54413393
Fucking exactly. It gets on my nerves sometimes but then I rememeber that I have a better understanding of music than these people and feel great. Just glad they have no leg to stand on in saying that TPAB is better than Yeezus.
>>54412398
I'm calling it now SHMG will not get BNM. Every single Yeezy has released up until All Day has got BNT. You've got to see who gets BNT nowadays friend.
>>54413226
HTTT is the only Radiohead album post-The Bends that drags on for too long. it has some incredible songs, but it isn't near In Rainbows in terms of consistency and as a whole
>>54413355
SO WHY DID I WEEP WHEN TRAYVON MARTIN WAS IN THE STREET WHEN GANGBANGIN MADE ME KILL A NIGGER BLACKER THAN ME
>9.3
not everything is as big as it seems
>>54413420
>but then I rememeber that I have a better understanding of music than these people and feel great
its the little things, right champ?
>>54412421
That's been the opinion on /mu/ for the last few days. Literally every poll made had GKMC ahead at least 15 percent. Get your head out of your ass.
>>54413448
I get what you're saying. I certainly like HTTT more as a whole though. Haunting album. No songs that I would personally skip, it paints a really vivid picture on its own.
Obviously I like In Rainbows a lot, it's a great album, I just personally think HTTT is a lot better and pretty underrated considering most people have it on the end of their favorite Radiohead album list when it's more toward the top for me.
>>54412715
this is accurate
>>54412614
That's really pathetic.
BOOM BABY GOOD NIGHT KING KENDRICK!
The fact of the matter is that this Kendrick's Yeezus and it doesn't match it. Not saying I'm surprised, just relieved that the opinion that counts agrees. Say what you like about P4k and about how you define your own taste, you know damn fucking well that the overriding opinions on this board are defined by Pitchfork - and rightly so.
kanye totally leaned on pitchfork to get this score
>>54413355
verse 2 on u
>>54412438
FTFY, p4k
WHEN PITCHFORK PANS, IS YOU STILL A FAN?
>>54413299
Not since MPP. I really thought TPAB was going to be the first post MBDTF album to score above 9.5. I'm sceptical that will happen this decade..
>>54413581
switch Late Reg and Yeezus and it's perfect
>>54413581
so much more accurate
>>54413546
>this Kendrick's Yeezus
>>54413602
THIS
>>54413015
>implying Houses of the Holy doesn't deserve every point of that score
>>54413546
I agree, there is a real need for a canon in all forms of art, and Pitchfork is fair and more often than not correct in their assessments
I'll be here when p4k gives meme grips a 9.5 and this board litreally implodes in upon itself and drags all of this cancer into a black hole. Then we can all get back to talking about ITAOTS
>>54413420
>>54413420
>>54412166
>>54412832
I thought people were finally over this, you all epitomize how people today don't care about the quality of music, just that it sounds "cool" therefore it is great.
You don't even know why you like it, you just know you don't like people who dislike it themselves
>>54413604
Accurate
>>54413652
>Pitchfork is fair and more often than not correct in their assessments
Now I remember why I barely come to this board anymore.
>>54413355
>THIS DICK AINT FREEEEEE
>2nd verse on u
>"Killer Mike'd be platinum"
>GANGBANGIN MAKE ME KILL A NIGGA BLACKER THAN ME
Can we like start a petition to get p4k to sack Ryan Dombal and remove his reviews for singlehandedly killing indie and making it "cool" to listen to pop music
>>54412424
and comparing yeezus and TPAB isn't?
>>54412421
That was the consensus before, nothing has really changed, stupid frogposter pleb
Cuckdrick Lamar
>>54413678
>implying
>>54413604
absolutely disgusting
Everyone needs to stop comparing To Pimp a Butterfly and Yeezus. Kendrick is trying to be 2Pac, Kanye is trying to be Picasso or Duchamp or Barthes. Kendrick’s album is deeply rooted in history and current events and sociopolitical commentary while Kanye’s is so meta and about art itself that it’s disappointingly self-indulgent but then transcendently timeless. It’s like comparing Invisible Man and Ulysses, or Selma and Birdman. I’m not even talking structure or genre or sound. The whole approach to art is different.
ITS NOT THAT FUCKING GOOD GODDAMNIT ITS A 7/10
>>54413713
They're incredibly different albums on multiple levels to the point that the only thing they have in common is that they both reside in the same genre...barely.
If you can't see that, you need to listen to more music.
>>54413726
how do I get a username??
>>54413355
>implying that halfassed white mans album is worth shit
>>54413758
nobody cares about your opinion
>>54413772
Sign in with facebook
>>54413758
I care. It's a strong 7. A 7.75 if you will.
>>54412938
>>54412938
thread/
>>54413772
Buy a 4chan Gold Account. Limited time offer.
Invite code: Jim Profit
>>54413755
>Kanye is trying to be Picasso or Duchamp or Barthes
you've got to be kidding
>>54413347
Damn son. This is eye-opening.
>>54412291
It's flawless and sounds great. This is also the year when Doom peaked as a lyricist and could do whatever the fuck he wanted. Vaudeville Villain is better, though.
To Pimp A Butterfly?
BOO BOO!
9.3?
BOO BOO!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
Better luck next time Memedrick!
>>54412596
U2 sucks and Achtung Baby, like everything they ever made, doesn't hold up well. It's a decent album, but that's about it.
>>54413766
Bro, implying i wasn't being sarcastic with that post
However, if you meant that as a statement for anyone reading the post then yes i agree
>>54413313
Which album?
>>54412614
For clarification, he did mention Mike Brown, just said that he killed a black kid in the same line in which he said he was sad about it.
>>54413581
I need to make my opinions lists like this from now on.
>>54413347
That's actually exactly what I imagined the new Pitchfork worked like. Old PF was a bunch of a bitter cunts who would shred good albums for a laugh, or go off on weird tangents that had nothing to do with the album they were reviewing. They're totally corporate now.
>>54413855
I meant to reply to >>54413713
>>54413755
this is some delicious new pasta
>>54413355
>ending of New Slaves
it's literally an exact recording of another song
you better be b8ing
>>54413872
no he mentioned trayvon
KENDY IS FINISHED
HIS EFFORTS WERE FRUITLESS
>>54412438
notice how the scores get more and more hyperbolic as the hype increases, as Kanye West becomes this person you're SUPPOSED to give 10's to.
unless he fucks up COLOSSALLY badly, he gets BNM.
>>54412291
it's 5 at best
>>54414070
frank ocean and kanye singing is the highlight of the ending
>>54414180
singing was terrible as usual, the highlight is clearly the omega melody
>>54414205
>melody
L0L
>>54414234
man kanye fans really are brain dead
>http://m.pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/5579-madvillainy/
This is one of the few p4k reviews where they actually talk about the music, wtf, why dont they review like this anymore?
>>54414259
What did you expect?
They're kanye fans.
