lets talk prog. I'm looking to get into it, big fan of king cirmson, soft machine, pink floyd (but not the wall) but can't stomach the likes rush/jethro tull/genesis. recommendations?
>>54210987
Listen to Exposure by Robert Fripp if you haven't. It will show you exactly the point in which prog ends and post-rock begins. It's also very good.
there's already a thread in the catalog
>>54211060
it was shit though
>>54211112
So is every prog rock thread.
>>54210987
>can't stomach jethro tull
fucking kill yourself
but first download the entire Van der Graaf Generator discography
>>54210987
What did you guys think of Hand Cannot Erase by Steven Wilson?
>>54213653
pleasant enough but mostly really lame
raven was way better
>>54213764
I felt it got stronger toward the end, the first few tracks didn't really grab me all that much but they were nice
Toward the end I did start to feel it but then it was all over and left me wanting more. I liked it, but I agree it's not his strongest record. My favorite is probably still Insurgentes
Still, I'm pretty hype about going to see him live in May. He always puts on a great show
Van Der Graaf Generator are sorta like a mix between Genesis and KC, but very unique in their own right. Give Godbluff and Pawn hearts a try.
Also try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cTp5xwAl58
Family and Music In A Doll's House specifically is great mesh of prog and psychedelic with oen of the GOAT vocalists of all time but I almost never hear them talked about.
Then try Gentle Giant. Octopus is the most accessible album.
Tull is GOAT get gud.
Admittedly though, at their worst they are pretty bad. Still, their first 5 albums are all great and worth having in your library.
>>54211448
I feel like we would get along and circlejerk
>last.fm?
>>54213812
>the first few tracks didn't really grab me all that much but they were nice
eh, other than perfect life (absolute turd of a song, complete filler), I think the first half is a lot stronger. I haven't heard a ton of his stuff, but it seems like writing pop songs is his strong suit, not all the drawn out instrumental prog stuff. The title track is corny as hell, but it's a great fucking pop song. Real strong melody. Then you get to a song like Ancestral which is just a total snoozer start to finish.
>>54213848
>Van Der Graaf Generator are sorta like a mix between Genesis and KC
yeah except they actually have good songs
>>54213868
>first 5
well I never
>>54213945
Controversial opinion, but I agree. If it didn't have that skit in the middle it would be my favourite of theirs. As it is i bounce between Stand Up and TAAB as fav.
>>54213930
Different strokes for different folks I guess, because I loved Ancestral
I think his best prog stuff is in Insurgentes and Grace for Drowning. In "Raven" and this one he tried some less proggy stuff
Check out Porcupine Tree and Blackfield if you're at the very least intrigued. His other stuff is really good, in my opinion. This new album was just alright
>>54213963
lol the Hare's a fun little intermission. I can see how it kind of kills the momentum but the rest of the album more than makes up for it I think.
>SHOW ME A GOOD MAN AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE DOOR
>THE LAST HYMN IS SUNG AND THE DEVIL CRIES MORE
>busts into soprano sax solo
>>54213971
Blackfield's his "pop" project, right? Maybe I'll check that out. I've heard one or two Porcupine Tree albums (years ago) and remember it being a little boring and spacey for me.
>>54214074
Yes correct, Blackfield is his pop project.
Which PT albums did you check out? Because their style varied and evolved quite a lot along the years. Maybe you listened to their earlier stuff, which is definitely quite spacey and stuck in vibes similar to Pink Floyd's Echoes. After the years passed they gained more experience and started being bolder imo, with records like In Absentia, Fear of a Blank Planet, and Deadwing. The Incident as well, for the grand finish into a more aggressive side of prog
I hope they come back soon
>>54214128
>Which PT albums did you check out?
I honestly don't remember. It was a long time ago. I think Blank Planet might have been one though since it had just come out. I'll try the Incident since I "aggressive" sounds pretty good to me
>>54214288
Solid choice, The Incident is an all around great record
>>54214288
Nah that's considered one of their worst
Try Deadwing
I enjoy this band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRiwLWxzCSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_NfSP4pl1Y
>>54214321
>>54214317
/mu/ in a nutshell
>>54213945
>>54213963
Agreed, Passion Play is great. I cut off the intro and the intermission from my version and it makes it a fantastic album from start to finish.
Opie, stop plebbing around and into Jethro Tull.
>>54214344
No it isn't.
Is prog rock the logical conclusion to rock music?
>>54215199
with the passion sucked out
>>54215219
no that's post-rock
>>54215219
>Passion sucked out
come on son. Educate yourself with this GOAT live performance right here, i watch this every day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8dBOIuG9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK4cuXJa7QE
>>54215265
>but where are the FEELS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z833vvmbKGM
>>54210987
First Utterance is great and dark
>>54215199
>pic related
>conclusion to music
>>54210987
I understand not liking Rush, I think they're weak as well, but how can you not into Genesis/Jethro Tull?
>>54210987
Listen to this
>>54216693
Probably because Genesis is garbage and Jethro Tull is mediocre apart from Aqualung
>>54215219
>passion
my only regret is that i have but one fedora to tip
>>54210987
If you have yet to listen to Yes' 'Close to the Edge', you need to. It's a fabulous album and I imagine the title track will blow you away. Jon Anderson's vocals are incredible, he has a lot of power, charisma and range with them. All the musicianship on the album is fantastic.
After that I'd recommend moving onto Fragile. I would normally recommended vise versa but because you already seem to really enjoy King Crimson then you should be able to stomach Close to the Edge no problem.
>>54210987
The Mars Volta are great.
What's some essential canterbury scene besides Wyatt and Soft Machine?
>>54217641
Gong - Flying Teapot
Egg - The Polite Force
Nucleus - We'll Talk About it Later
>>54217641
Caravan
>>54217689
I listened to Grey & Pink and it sucked. Do they have anything better?
>>54217492
Except that's objectively incorrect
>>54217641
Either Hatfield and the North album. Holy shit, those are some good albums.
And to >>54217700
That's their best really. The most poppy band of the Canterbury scene. I admit most of their songs are mediocre, but Nine Feet Underground is great. If you like the vocals on that album but wish for more complex jazzy arrangements, again, Hatfield and the North is GOAT. Richards Sinclair's bass playing and vocals are miles ahead compared to his previous work with Caravan.
>>54215265
that Octopus Medley truly is amazing
>tfw when the bass player is a better guitarist than most guitarists
based Ray "the chin" Shulman does it again
is Koenjihyakkei the GOAT zeuhl band that isn't Magma?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98xULn2ZD3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKPsebad3EY
>>54218142
and don't say fucking Dün because those assholes only made one album. Sure it's a masterpiece, but come on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj2lXOAC_aA
>>54217641
Hatfield and the north will be a nice choice if you like soft machine
>>54217641
Check out Supersister, they're not actually from Canterbury but heavily influenced by the sound and a good band in their own right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LodjAyIX3fM
>>54218142
>>54218166
>>54218259
I just remembered I uploaded these in a share thread months ago. Links are still up if anyone is interested
Koenjihyakkei - Angherr Shisspa
>Zeuhl, Japan
https://mega.co.nz/#F!owNwXQJZ!OlXEEuNM6z0tnYmrspKzhA
Koenjihyakkei - Hundred Sights of Koenji
>Zeuhl, Japan
https://mega.co.nz/#F!cgUQGbaK!QudSVkwyj_NZFLCxRwtYxQ
Dün - Eros
>Zeuhl, France
https://mega.co.nz/#F!BtM3WBgR!oZ9tSYK7pY7jWOTrpGMbqA
Supersister - To The Highest Bidder
>Faux-Canterbury, Netherlands
https://mega.co.nz/#F!NlkxWbqQ!abu18ZE3RpXFnPcqwvzssw
what's their best work?
>>54218954
>not just saying it's Camel
I prefer their early work. The first two albums, basically. They're both great but I slightly prefer Mirage. Those albums are perfect proof that good prog can be quite catchy and accessible.
/mu/'s thoughts on Focus?
/mu/'s thoughts on Gentle Giant?
>>54217492
>apart from Aqualung
Literally their weakest album of their first 5 or so. Confirmed for never actually listening to anything or just having shit taste
>>54220090
*narrows eyes at u*
>>54220122
*grabs you by the throat* BACK THE FUCK OFF?!?!?!?!?
>>54219273
would be the GOAT if Derek Shulman wasn't such a terrible singer
Lamb mustard coming through...
>>54219273
dat syncopation
>tfw you will never listen to something as good as Close To The Edge
It really hurts.
>>54217700
try If I Could Do It All Over Again or For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
>>54210987
Gem
fuck everyone who shit on Genesis in this thread
>>54220625
You take that back, you motherfucker. Valedictory is one of my favourite vocal melodies in prog.
>>54221928
>everyone
>implying 95% of this thread isn't just me samefagging
>>54222003
No, I stand by my opinion and I can't imagine how anyone could fail to see how he objectively sucks. GG is still one of the greatest bands of all time though.
>>54218954
The Snow Goose, Mirage, Moonmadness
>>54218598
Thanks for these anon. Do you have links to the other two Koenjihyakkei albums? (Viva Koenji and Nivraym)
>>54222023
then fuck you. abacab is better than in the court of the crimson king
>>54222095
Oh well I tried. What's your favourite album of theirs?
>>54222169
sorry, just these two
>>54222173
ok
>>54222179
Tough call. I'd say it's a tie between The Power & The Glory, and Acquiring the Taste.
>>54222173
lol it's not, and this is an objective fact.
>>54222222
>>54222222
Excellent digits my friend
>>54222222
those are some nice digits
>>54222279
holy shit, never realized how perfect this table flip was
>>54217492
>Genesis is garbage
You shut your whore mouth.
>>54222228
WE CANT DANCE IS BETTER THAN RED
>>54222410
it's not a hard table to flip
>>54217700
If I could do it all over again > in the land of grey and pink.
I think the former is much more comparable to Soft Machine or other canterbury acts, it's just fairly tame, especially the rhythm section.
>>54217641
Khan - Space Shanty is never mentioned but give it a listen it's amazing
>>54217556
Also would recommend this if you enjoyed the title track on CTTE
>>54218080
>the chin
top kek
Also, I REALLY recommend you listen to the Octopus medley on their live album Playing the Fool, that acoustic section is imo WAY better than the video one, gives me chill everytime
>>54222222
MODS
O
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>>54222222
>>54220625
I thought the same way, but then i tried to think about Gentle Giant's music with another singer and came to the conclusion that his vocals fit the music extremely well
>>54222754
Not him but thank you so much.
>>54222279
>le flip.gif
>>54223904
is that the one where they also incorporate the Acquiring the Taste theme? I have it on CD but it's been a while since I've listened to it.
I was the person who was on a prog general like a month ago complaining about how overrated Octopus was.
and now I've got to apologise because I've now just realised how much of an idiot I am, I finally see how fucking great this album is.
Listening to this right now.
It's pretty good.
Anyone else like it?
>>54224430
Fair enough. I'm exagerating anyway because I'm a faggot who is incapable of nuanced and constructive dialogue, but it does kind of bother me on some live recordings, mainly during the rock sections. The "master inner voiceeeeeeeeees" squeels on Experience aren't what I'd call good singing. It's fine though, I still love GG.
>>54210987
"Red" is such a fantastic album, OP.
Essential KC.
Is something like this considered progressive rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkDCr3X6-Ms
I'm kind of new to this and looking around for something similar.
Rule number one:
Pink Floyd is shit
Rule number two:
If you can't stand genesis you can't stand prog
Now fuck off
>>54217619
this
>>54225361
But I fukn hated Invisible Touch and Abacab
>>54225361
Kill yrself
>>54224811
Yes, and it's magical. Truly their best album
I decided to revisit Hot Rats, haven't heard it in a long time, and holy shit, the drumming on that album is top notch.
I usually don't get pulled in by drums, but fucking eh, I'm loving this more than I ever did before.
>>54225361
I agree with rule two. Genesis is what prog is all about
>>54225327
No, I'd say that's a blend of folk and country with some psychedelic elements. Check out his 2002 album Sea Change if you haven't already, and maybe the Nick Drake albums Five Leaves Left and Bryter Layter.
>>54225517
The Gumbo Variations is fucking groovy
>>54225282
Yeah it bothers me too sometimes, but that medeaval funk makes up for it
>dududu duuduuduu dududu
>dududu duuduuduu dududu
>dududu duuduuduu dududu DUUTUUUUUEEEEEEEUEUUEUEEUEU
>>54213963
The skit adds to the album in my opinion. I think it's hilariously awesome
>>54225576
Cool, thanks man
GOAT prog coming through
Also: Bubu - Anabelas is amazing
In case anyone got put off by Fantano's negative review, don't listen to that guy. This is actually a really nice album.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Z0d1GQAJ!tT_2lvVWHycmrBpN_EMgPg
D-Does /mu/ like Kansas?
Driving on a western Kansas backroad with this album playing while smoking a cigarette with the window down is great.
>>54217641
CAMEL
>>54225643
I can't look at this album without thinking about that time someone tried to force it as /mu/core
I dont know what exactly im looking for but, anyone know any prog with really spordiac sort of free jazz esque drumming?
Also two albums in general that I really like are
Camel - Mirage
Dun - Erons
and I don't know shit about prog other than the obvious (KC, yes) so some recs similar to those are appreciated.
Also do you guys like modern prog/alt rock stuff? Oceansize is a great band, any recs similar to that?
>>54225754
It's so weird how /mu/ escapades have implanted themselves into your mind like they actually happened
>>54225759
Check out:
Henry Cow - Unrest
The Mothers of Invention - Weasels Ripped My Flesh
Those might fit the bill for free jazz esque drumming.
>>54225402
>Invisible Touch and Abacab
nigga u srs
>>54225759
Grand Wazoo album by Zappa
also check out Birds and Buildings, they are pretty unknown but kick some major ass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXbHy9ZwTOY
>>54225754
Well, that could be my fault, because i'm probably the only one who posts this here (perhaps there are 2 others). But i never tried to force it as /mu/core
what's /mu/'s opinion about ProgArchives?
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1#list
I think it's pretty accurate
>>54226051
youre gonna get a bunch of anti anglo prog faggots getting mad about this list but I think its okay.
>>54225710
>negative
it was a 6/10, jesus christ
>>54210987
Anglagard - Viljans Oga
Hypnos 69 - Legacy
>>54225798
Alright dling these, thanks.
>>54225903
not sure about the Zappa, never liked his music a lot, I'm really liking the other one though, thanks!
>>54220694
Fly on a windshield is fucking goat
>>54222926
hot onions incoming: this is the second best Yes album, right behind Close to the Edge
>>54226168
Is Viljans Oga anything like Hybris? I haven't heard the former yet and there was quite the time difference between the two.
>>54226226
>Fragile exists
>Yes Album exists
>Going for the One exists
whoa these onions are not only hot
they're plebby
>>54217619
damn right
>>54226258
Those are good albums, but Tales is fucking magical and beautiful. Fragile is very inconsistent, though the three long tracks are all top 10 yes songs. The Yes Album just isnt as good, but still great. Also:
>Going for the One
something sure is plebby here, but I dont think its me
>>54226051
I thought it was disgusting, then I saw Kind of Blue and realized it was all an elaborate ruse. Well played.
