its 2015, whats your excuse for not creating any music of your own?
b-but I'm working on my second album right now...
Not creative enough.
>>53949828
I hope someone is scolding him for having his drink on the console, and that's why he's looking backwards with a concerned look in his eye
i do, performin in a mont
My life is too shitty to write good lyrics.
>>53949828
Too poor to buy instruments/equipment
waiting for Jenny Death
i dont know where to start im scared
>>53949848
probably shit
>>53949857
>>53949893
>>53949904
>>53949964
poor excuses
>>53949924
>>53949875
what genres
>>53949992
is that justin broadrick?
>>53949992
Fuck off m8
>>53949992
I perform the hops that are hip
>>53949992
mostly i work on trap influenced beats
I'm not that good at composing.
>>53949904
pirate music production software like I did 2 years ago
>tfw finishing up my second album
>>53949828
i am a very good follower but a poor leader. so i am a decent musician but cannot create my own music
>>53949828
What's Kanye's excuse?
>>53949828
I'm learning theory and working on proficiency with my instrument.
i do and nobody like me, everyboyd love me i am the best and everything thinks i am happy and cool i think ill be famous very soon
been downloading software, just starting and learning i guess. am waiting for "reason" to finish. what do you plebs use?
also any tips for someone starting out, good ways to learn etc.
>>53949848
>second
>try 13th niggaaaaa
what's your excuse for not shooting your own films?
what's your excuse for not harvesting your own food?
what's your excuse for not knitting your own clothes?
what's your excuse for being such a faggot?
>>53950129
>what do you plebs use?
A piano
Downloaded LMMS and made one song, and it was surprisingly not complete shit. It was kind of plain though. I'm trying to learn more but you really need to know a fuckton about music theory to be able to use a DAW correctly
>>53950142
what's your excuse for posting here on 4chan instead of doing all those things?
I'm so apathetic guys. I'm depressed and unhappy, drugs aren't even making me happy anymore. Shot up heroin a couple times in the last week, but I know that drugs aren't the answer. I NEED an outlet to let out my emotions before I succumb to heroin addiction because I'm close to the point of completely not caring if my life spirals out of control.
How do I become less apathetic to start doing what I love? My dream is to make music, mainly for myself. I feel like it's the only path towards my own contentment. I just can't find the motivation.
>>53950208
why would I do all those things?
and what's your excuse?
>>53950129
Tips:
>keep at it, it takes years to git gud
>don't be afraid to fuck shit up, you can always ctrl-z
>don't try and be another artist, feel free to be influenced but remember to make music unique to yourself
>the internet is detrimental to production in the long run
Learn:
>RTFM
>RTFM
>fuck around
>RTFM
What does my pleb ass use:
>FL
>>53950301
move to another country
>>53950179
>you really need to know a fuckton about music theory to be able to use a DAW correctly
Not necessarily. There are plenty of tutorials for each major DAW online both text and video. Knowing theory only helps with a few things like composing harmonies, etc which is still possible to do well if you develop and trust your ears.
I'm a depressed alcoholic and instead of channeling that into something creative I sit around doing nothing, occasionally jerking off.
>>53949828
I have no musical training and I'm a lazy cunt.
>>53950118
R E K T
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>>53950351
this, theory helps but isnt necessary
>>53950330
>why is the internet a detrimental place for music?
>whats RTFM?
boi1da uses FL and he's one of my favorite producers
a ton of people here do now because of death grips and vaporwave
they're all talentless faggots who started maybe 2 or 3 years ago because "this is so cool"
has anyone else seen this trend?
>>53950401
>>53950351
I play guitar and know some basic theory (major/minor keys, transposing, etc.) but I don't know how that transfers into the piano roll? Like what is C5 C6 C7 and such compared to C D E F G A B?
Working on it.
>>53950311
I'm actually learning violin right now, just took a break. What's your excuse?
>>53950339
What about across the country? I may have a chance to move from the east coast US to California. But I just can't see how that would help. People are the same everywhere. No one wants to be around someone like me who's just gonna bring them down. Idk why the few friends that I have left even hang out with me. Fuck, I don't even care about them really. And I'm ashamed to say I don't feel much love for my family who are nothing but loving people. What's wrong with me? Is my brain lacking a certain chemical? Do I need to be put on antidepressants to feel happy to be alive?
>>53950418
>why is the internet a detrimental place for music
Easy to get suckered into the mentality of "I'll never get gud why even try" as well as the mentality that mixing will solve all your problems, it's ok to be crap, let me viral my soundcloud/bandcamp instead of improving my music, etc.
>what's RTFM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=RTFM
Learning to google is the first step in becoming a producer, nobody's going to tell you everything.
>>53950429
listen to the notes in your DAW and listen to the C on your guitar
>>53950429
in the piano roll context, c5/6/7 refers to a certain octave. c0 is a very very low c (i don't think it goes into negative numbers because they would definitely be beyond the range of human hearing) i think the piano starts at a2 or a1 and goes up to c7/8
>>53950518
i could have used google but i just wanted to ask you anon.....
>its 2015, whats your excuse for starting thread with image of shitty producer?
>>53950419
Yep, it's absolutely pathetic.
but i just finished my second EP.
>>53950555
I'll only be here for a thread, Google will be there for life.
>>53950565
He was probably making a statement about how he would view a /mu/-based musician
>>53950565
>>53950429
The terms "C5" and "C7", etc refer to a "C" chord (i.e. a triad with C as the root) that includes the fifth (the fifth would be included in a regular C chord anyway so it'd be uncommon to see a chord written in notation as C5) or seventh, which they will tell you is often used in jazz but is really used in many other genres of popular music.
>>53950610
no they dont
>>53950429
>>53950539
Oh wait I'm sorry, I totally was referring to the wrong context with my previous post (>>53950610)
In a DAW, C5, et al refers to the octave in a sequencer generally.
How would one go about composing something like these? Please help, I find composition to be extremely difficult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=602lSyvHcBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPH_3wcLwRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7loz-HWUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H71FHZllro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynEOo28lsbc
Where is the best place to get samples for DAWs?
>>53950689
pirate bay just search for an 808 or 909 kit imo
>>53950689
If you have a decent microphone or even a smartphone you could try recording your own in 24-bit, but otherwise if there's a particular vintage drum machine sound you're interested in or something then Google is your friend. There are so many different resources out there that it'd be difficult to choose a single "best". If you're looking for samples from actual recorded music then use the Internet Archive as most of the recordings on there are in the public domain.
>>53950440
I play guitar, flute and the uileann pipes.
that doesn't mean I "make my own music"
>>53950445
I don't know, I have never moved or anything. If you stay where you are (you can take this in a metaphorical way also) you know you'll get nothing, but otherwise... I think that maybe being uncertain of what will happen can be thrilling and motivating. Moving would be my last resource for when I don't know what to do with my life. Maybe I'm just full of bullshit, I don't know.
>>53950729
bruh
>>53950828
what
>>53950779
You know a lot of instruments but you're not making your own music. What's your excuse?
>>53950419
thanks for finally saying it. looks like nobody in here said anything, probably due to the fact they're apart of the problem.
>>53950419
>>53950888
>if you're not a genius right away, just give up and never try to improve yourself
Get off your high horses, you fucking twats. They were inspired by someone and if they truly want to become better at making music, why does that matter to you?
>>53950970
there gay and there posers not like me im a real musician
>>53950888
>probably due to the fact they're apart of the problem
people making music isnt a problem, even if its shitty dude. if anything >>53950419 is praising DG by associating them with bands like velvet underground who heavily inspired other musicians in the past
>>53950419
>tfw started making hip hop music 4-5 years ago
>tfw getting props from the veterans in my town
EAT MY NUTS FAGGOT
>>53950888
Making music is never a problem you cluckhead
The only time people making music is a problem if you are worried about the competition
Step your game up sucka
I've been trying to by messing around with FL Studio Demo.
I literally can not get past the default patterns even though I have several drum machine packs(808). I am trying to teach myself music theory but it seems like a lot to learn and the only thing I can apply it to is piano. I have no equipment and never learned how to play an instrument.
That is the main reason, but I am trying.
Should I just focus on playing the piano then moving to a DAW? Where should I go from here?
>>53951237
If you can manage piano try finding a string based VST
Staccato strings are pretty easy to learn at first
>>53951237
Music theory can be applied to any sound. Try making a melody out of the sound of you coughing into a microphone.
>>53949828
I'm afraid it won't be the best representation of what I'm feeling/thinking. Also, I don't know if I can actually say something from the mess that is what I'm thinking/feeling
There is only one thing that I dread: not to be worthy of my sufferings.
>>53949893
>writing lyrics
>making music
Pick 1
because i have to make trap, edm, taylor swift lorde, or childish gambino and drake music to get any popularity or success.
and i fucking hate that shit.
I sometimes write songs on my guitar
>>53951520
man, DAE think all modern music is shit??? every single popular musician today is just absolute garbage!!!!!!!1!!!11!!
also
>caring about success
>not making music for the fun of it
this post exudes an aura of faggotry
>tfw working on my 21st, 22nd and 23rd albums
>>53951575
>tell the objective truth
>"this is faggotry why would you want to be a successful musician"
grow up kid
>>53949828
there is literally no excuse for not making music in 2015 due to the availability and ease of use of garageband and similar programs
>not making atmospheric crescendocore tracks with tons of layers every weekend
>>53951611
your logic is absolutely retarded though
>"i refuse to do something because i won't become hugely successful and make large sums of money off it"
do you just sit around and watch tv all day or what, what's your fucking hobby
>>53949828
but i do and im pretty famous here
>>53951280
This is goofy as fuck but I tried something.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vzo5vKhzEB
>>53949828
Alright honestly what the fuck dude he is seriously using an Mbox with that desk? This picture was tailored to really aggravate me.
>>53951342
Any tips on dealing with that?
>>53951633
i only like doing things i can be successful at. why would i want to do otherwise? if im forced to create shit i dont want to create, in order to be successful, then im not going to fucking do that.
whats so hard to understand about that?
>>53950970
>>53951059
>>53951065
>>53951236
lol you're proving his point
>>53951739
what can you be successful at then?
you seriously don't just do fun things for the sake of doing them?
what do you do for a living/for fun
Still learning how to play guitar (been playing for about a month now).
tell me your thoughts on my excuse:
i'm 32. i'm scared that- even if i make music because i enjoy doing so - and i put it online, people will be like, "you're too old to make music of your own. grow up." Or something like that. Is that a valid fear? I'm not attempting to become a big rockstar or something. I just like composing music but have yet to record it/self-publish it because of my age.
>>53951776
nope, i guess im more competitive than most people. i work in finance. making money off of smart investments is fun to me.
I play guitar, bass, drums. I just need to figure out a direction to go in.
>>53951813
>Is that a valid fear?
no
>>53951813
>put your shitty music online
>post it a few places
>get maybe 100 views
>some will like it
>some wont
>most wont even comment
ya thats what happens, its not even a big deal bro.
>>53951840
>this is what the jews actually believe
I'm a visual artist
>>53951352
>not writing your own lyrics then setting them to music.
they're very separate things, but it helps to be able to do both. music can only communicate so much. text/lyrics helps.
>>53949828
I dont need an excuse... have been creating my own music for almost 15 years
>>53951813
Yes it's a very valid fear. But you know it doesn't make much sense.. you know there are painters that started when they were in their 90s. I think you should do it because you'll feel better after doing it. Even if it comes out wrong, and you have to start over many times
How do I learn how to sing
>>53951912
just sing
literally anybody can sing it's so fucking easy christ
>>53951669
Go to bed ,joel
>>53951813
ye is 37
this nigga an old man playin with kids. let your fear be
I jam with others but I haven't put together a band yet, plus I need a new keyboard.
>>53949828
Been playing guitar and writing my own stuff for a while now, tho always felt too insecure to put anything out there
But mannnnn lately its been feeling really close
>>53951894
>Yes it's a very valid fear.
Bullshit
maybe "you're too old to post on 4chan. grow up" would be valid since it seems like lately it's been mostly teens posting
>>53951697
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vzo5vKhzEB
dude that was actually really good.
>>53951697
See? Now learn some theory, and you'll be able to extrapolate from the 3 notes you used that you're in the key of E minor and you can put some chords on top of that accordingly, and then learn your DAW and you'll be able to design a synth sound around that, and once you've got a few synth sounds playing at the same time you can put some effects on them and mix them, and then you have a track. Really, just listen to the artist you like and really think about how they could've done what they do. Also see the advice in >>53950330.
>>53951912
http://youtu.be/vm3fjteswgU
>>53951944
huh? whos dat?
i did
i tried and it was bad, so i deleted everything about it and left music to people who care about it more than i do
>>53951813
32 isnt even old yous just a pussy boy 5500
>>53951997
Thanks m8.
I kek'd
>>53950664
Someone please help.
>>53950664
>>53952166
learn theory i guess
get good
>>53952166
they have classes about composition
>>53952210
I already know a lot of theory, I just seem to have a problem with voice leading and writing melodies.
>>53950664
have some great natural talent, then "go to university"
oh and you might want to dedicate all your free time to writing music. It'll take you a lifetime, but if you have the natural talent you could become great like Ravel, Debussy, Gershwin etc.
I tried. I am simply tone-deaf.
>>53952252
either hum shit to yourself until you come up with something you like or just steal melodies from obscure shit that nobody will notice
i can't write the kind of music i want to, and even if i could there's no way i could put it into the context i want
there's really no point in making music that you don't like
my grandfather and pretty much everyone i know is a musician, or in the case of my grandfather was, but i'm honestly afraid to try it because i hate failing. i tried to learn how to play guitar a few years ago from a friend and he said i was probably the fastest person to ever pick it up that he has taught and that i should keep with it, but i never did and now i forgot everything.
i want to learn how to play the violin and guitar since i have them in my closet. the violin needs new strings and a new bow though, and i just keep putting off buying them. i don't know what my real excuse is, but here i sit day after day not doing it. i'm also nowhere near social enough to be in a band, although i have been told if i learned violin and got good at it they could use me for singing at my mother's church and other places friends do stuff.
i don't know, man.
>>53952390
do it or dont the choice is yours but u will regret the things u did not do much more than those u tried and failed also it does not have to be a very serious endeavor music is a celebration
s
>>53951858
>>53951866
>>53951894
>>53951961
>>53951978
>>53952134
very grateful for these responses. thank you, kind Anons.
>>53952252
everyone has problems writing good melodies. thats why we pay people millions of dollars and let them live in mansions and fuck supermodels when they actually write amazing melodies in songs. because its hard to do.
>>53952416
omg u so inspired me im cring let me write ur post down ;_;
>>53952390
Yeah I've been there. You just have to fail, that is life. It is failure, over and over again. It's much better to be a failure, trust me I cannot make this point any stronger. All great musicians are failures, that's how they are strong enough to make music.
Every person on this goddamn thread is a bunch of winners, that's why they don't make music. If you really want it, you'll let go of it. Trust me, I was a shitty player 4 years ago, and now I'm more confident and I'm 23 and I'm going to do this for my entire life because I can't do anything else.
If you're in high school it's a great time because you can get off this forum and sit down and do your time on the instruments. Then work on getting together with others, you think "I can't do it" but you will. Have faith you already know what to do, and say.. the music comes OUT OF YOU. It is inside of you, it doesnt just come from nowhere. You will know yourself and find the music. Just play your music
I like music, but I hate musicians and so I don't want to be one
>>53952486
i am happy to hear this spread the love and do what you do anon good luck
My advice to all would-be composers is listen to classical music. I am pretty shite at composition but since I started regularly listening to shit that isn't just riffs and licks and hooks I have constant inspiration. I can come up with a melody on the fly now. Although they aren't all worth turning into music of course. Another thing is with a wide range of classical repertoire in your head, you'll be able to think of how to do key modulations more convincingly since pretty much every kind of key modulation crops up. This is obviously useful for linking multiple themes together.
I used to play guitar in a band when I was 14 until like 16, then around 20 I slowly stopped playing guitar everyday. Always recorded small bits but never went anywhere with them or even made one complete song.
Now, as funny as it is, I've been really into playing around on the keyboard on GarageBand on my damn iphone. Don't know a damn thing about playing piano but I can come up with something I love every now and then that I'll save and record, yet I don't know what to do with them ever. I have a hard time adding things to a song or even knowing where i want to go with them. just dicking around with the different presets is calming though
>>53951994
How the fuck can you tell he is in E minor? First off those don't sound much like actual tones but is there really enough context there to tell what key he is in?
>>53949828
>>53950110
what software does /mu/ use 'legally' to make music?
>>53952628
Reaper
>>53952628
FL studio and Studio One
>>53949828
I try, but I need more time before I think I'm good enough to really make music
Stopped writing after my music performance course at college a few years back. I didn't realize just how nerve-wracking playing live on stage is and I never overcame it. Bullshit to the "adrenaline takes over and you enjoy once you're up there", I would forget my parts instantly and bumble around trying to improvise, forgetting key changes, generally being shit.
I wasn't born a musician ;_;
>>53952625
It sounds like DECCCEDECCC to me, it could be a lot of keys/modes but I was using E minor as an example.
I have no desire to create my own music, or have a career in that direction at all, anyone else know this feeling?
>>53952628
ableton live 8, snagged it second hand for 80 bucks
>>53952495
the problem is i'm almost 25 and not in high school. you make some good points and so does >>53952416
i guess i really have nothing to lose it's not like i have to buy instruments or anything i reckon
>>53952729
that's the polar opposite of how I feel
>>53952668
I used to love Fl, started getting into synth and my computer crashed. Gotta buy it.
I bought sony acid it makes me feel remedial though.
>>53952811
how is acid?
>tfw recently purchased shitty synths, drum pads, and controllers off ebay
I have no idea what I doing, and I'm having a wonderful time.
>>53952750
No whether its 25 or 23 or that 32 year old guy. Music has no age. If you want to pick up an instrument, then go for that. It is fun, and very frustrating.. but it changes people in a good way.
However you want to do it, just keep going for it. After you don't make the sound you want in a hundred times. It will probably take many more, but the fun is in the art, not in the product
how do i make music with no money
>>53952864
That's what I'm saying. I just haven't gotten the hang of it yet. Where fl had little things you had to know but was smooth sailing.
>>53952801
nobody cares about how you feel
>>53952944
how do you even live with no money?
you need a solid life/income before you can start doing recreational stuff like making music.
>>53951994
>>53951979
I couldn't really think of what to do afterwards.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1a41Wv3UuIy
>>53952638
>>53952668
>>53952742
you guys use any controllers/pads/physical hardware stuff, or just the keyboard?
Tried using FL with just keyboard, gave up after a few weeks.
>>53949893
Are you stupid?
You need a shit life to write good lyrics. Literally no excuse other than your own stupidity.
>>53949828
what headphones is he wearing here?
>>53952991
a cheap USB MIDI keyboard, but that's the extent of it
>>53952985
Congratulations! You have successfully created Vaporwave.
>>53952995
what if he had a shitty education and didn't read enough books to be able to articulate his thoughts into coherent and/or interesting lyrics?
>>53952991
i plan on buying a midi keyboard but right now the laptop keyboard works for me
>>53953020
Thanks friendano
:^)
I worked hard on it.
>>53952995
>shitty life
could just as easily be a mundane inspirationless one than a dark past with truckloads of negative experiences to write about
>>53953052
>>53953009
Speaking of keyboards, I found this old keyboard in a dumpster outside my apartment, what could I do with it? Don't think it's even full range, only like 60 keys.
>>53953021
most rappers didnt make it through highschool
>>53953088
shit looks decent, id use it to the max
>>53953116
for what though?
>>53953089
hence why most rap is about weed, bitches and ho's, and the lyrics are poor.
There are some good rappers (sage francis for example) but rap isn't usually the first choice for lyrics posterchild
>>53950419
>if you aren't good enough for national or international recognition, just give up now
>>53953126
writing songs
>>53953088
the sound from these things is generally not that great but i think it'd be useful for composing and planning things out before you take them to a DAW
i hate using a MIDI keyboard because there aren't enough keys on mine, but that has plenty
>>53953126
man put your mind to it, i make beats so it would help me tons
>>53953127
but my point is you dont need a great edu=cation to write compelling lyrics
>>53952944
Pirate some software and get writing, making music on 0 dollars isn't hard.
I don't use any controllers or anything special when I write music, I've just got a nice soundcard and some good cans, I don't really need much else most of the time unless I'm recording guitar or bass or something which doesn't happen much these days.
http://picosong.com/2LRc/
Everything I fucking had was pirated when I did this one here as I couldn't afford any libs at the time.
I write a new melody/chord progression everyday but sometimes it's problem to me to develop them (mostly a mental thing). I do have a few finished pieces and i'm really proud of one of them.
>>53952628
bought Sonar in steam sale for like $50
>>53953168
my point is that you do.
or at least read plenty of books
I want to. I pirated Ableton and Pro Tools but I feel like that's not enough because I don't own or know how to play any instruments.
My drumset broke and I'm still saving for a new one to start another band, pls don't hurt me /mu/ ;_;
>>53953314
Either you're fat as fuck, or your technique is horrible to break a fucking drumset.
>>53953385
how would him being fat break a drum set?
But I have made some 'music'
>>53953393
fat people are not careful
>>53950138
Brandon?
