Autechre is the only thing I care about listening too lately. Exai, Draft 7.30, Confield, Oversteps, I feel like I have become a nonstop continuous orgasm while listening to these albums. What other electronic music besides the obvious afx, boc, ect sound like autechre? I mean really glitchy, fuckd, texturally complex, reality melting, technologically insane electronic music?
>use synth presets
>generate random beats on a DAW
>look we are intelligent musicians!
>>52632004
Have you ever listened to autechre? This shit is more intricate and layered than pretty much any other electronic music I've heard, you must have untrained plebber ears if you can't hear this
>>52631973
I got an Exai-like vibe from this album, maybe you will enjoy it.
Tarantel- Ghetto Beats on the Surface of the Sun
It was in a sharethread recently, you can probably find it in the archive.
>>52632095
Thanks I'll check dis out
What's the best Autechre album? I've been wanting to listen to these guys and don't really have the room for full discogs at the minute...
What about venetian snares
Listen to Monolake, Bola and Nobukazu Takemura.
>>52632265
Draft 7.30 is really good
>>52632283
Oooo, I think I've come across Monolake before, thanks I'll check these out
>>52632032
can't be unseen now
>>52632265
LP5
maybe Laurel Halo?
>>52632289
I'll try it out, thanks :)
Ryoji Ikeda
Alva Noto
Cyclo
William Fields
>>52632265
The best ones are Confield and Tri Repetae, depending on your taste.
>>>52630747
This is me. I'm completely grabbed by the balls. I can't do anything but listen to them, their music gives me something I've never experienced in music, and I listen to a fucking lot of electronic music.
Bump, I really fucking interested
>>52632265
My personal favorite is Confield but you should start with their 90's stuff: Incunabula, Amber, Tri repetae. (Tri repetae is probably the best one to start with)
>>52632917
Amber is one of my favourites it has a normal groove but the layers and reverbs are really spot on.
>>52632968
it's also their most accessible
>>52633017
Yeah, you are right.
>>52632267
Venetian Snares? I've listened to two of his albums and he is really good, but it's all Industrial Jungle or something. Is there any album that sounds like autechre?
>>52633155
Huge Chrome sounds a lot like Autechre. He has a very varied discography.
>>52633177
Noice, checking it at the moment.
>>52631973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDO3-CiKmZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf8yZOfVLMw
>>52633177
It has that Autechre feeling, but I don't know if it's me but it feels more violent (kinda what I expected after listening to his other stuff)
>>52633177
He also happens to be a hack of the highest order.
>>52633382
Only while making Rossz
>>52633354
Yeah, it's more violent, but it's a lot more "emotional" (not necessarily better) than the rest of his stuff.
>>52633464
Only while making anything past Making Orange Things.
>>52631973
Rob Clouth (Vaetxh)
Puzzleweasel
Xhin
Datach'i
Richard Devine
enjoy
>>52633591
>Datach'i
that guy is really bad.
>>52633614
bad guy as in he's an unsavoury person, or you think his music is bad?
>>52633892
the latter
Grischa lichtenberger or what was it
Coil obviously
Mouse on Mars is great too, though i don't really like their latest stuff
NHKyx
Mira Calix
come to mind..
>>52632265
My favourites are Exai, Draft and oversteps
>>52631973
Arovane
posting as a reminder that the bass drop in cloudline is the heaviest thing that exists on the planet atm
>>52635752
that nose pick is so recks on, im not even kalpol introl'ing you
>>52632307
Nobukazu is really cool. Has a vibe similar to a lot of the Thrill Jockey/Editions Mego/Raster Noton glitch stuff that was going on in the 90s
>>52635806
dont worry i trust you without even fact checking
>>52634193
>Grischa Lichtenberger
yes. YES.
Spring Heel Jack
maybe Vladislav Delay
>>52631973
You're ready for the next level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5hhFMSAuf4
>>52632004
>insulting the actual gods
>>52639211
>tfw data.matrix
>>52639957
>the actual gods
>not yowie
You are missing out
>>52640047
>twing-twangs
>good
>>52640606
>bleep bloops
>good
>>52640725
miles ahead of twing-twangs that's for sure
>>52639211
Nope, wrong thread.
I'd say glitch is much more compositionally complex and varied than IDM, and less about the textures straightforward rhythms. The latter is the fundamental difference between autechre and clicks and cuts
>>52640833
Majority of glitch is improvisatory/minimalist in nature meaning it's much less complex than IDM.
>>52640743
Nice argument
>>52640833
The good thing about autechre are their complex compositions and their sounds, so I guess Ryoji Ikeda fits pretty well for the first reason.
>>52640876
Listen to Test Pattern
>>52640047
Before looking at the name I read Yowie and knew instantly it was you. Hows it hanging bro?
>>52632004
oh get the fuck out
Autechre is one group that I just haven't been able to get into. I've *enjoyed* them, but they just haven't really caught on with them. I keep coming back to them, though.
>>52640929
>Listen to Test Pattern
I did. Chance are I've know Ikeda for much before you yourself discovered him. That track is an ideal example of audio minimalism and only supports my original statements.
I would recommend you stick to your prog generals but that would be insulting to prog generals.
>>52641002
what's your opinion on boards of canada?
>>52641043
I like them quite a bit.
>>52640929
guitars are objectively inferior to electronics and guitars incorporating electronics
enjoy your dated last century wank, degenerate
>>52641043
Why bring them up? They don't make music that is similar to autechre in any way. Shame people lump them into the same group...
>>52641100
>1100
digits confirm
>>52641070
you should try Move of Ten by Autechre. i'm a big BoC fan and used to feel the same about Autechre as you, but for some reason Move of Ten really clicked with me
>>52641117
i'm not saying they are alike. but as a boc fan the EP that made me "get" Autechre was Move of Ten, so i figured i'd recommend it
>>52640876
Not really. It's hard work to make something as rhythmic and enjoyable out of such sterile sound sources and short samples.
I mean composition specifically, yes most of that is still fairly repetitive and relies on grains but it doesn't need a massive distorted bassline and heavy drumkicks to make the music feel 'full'.
Idk that's just how i see it. I get a more pure feeling out of it. I could almost say that Autechre likes to mask and hide their weak sides in all this glitchy business,but then again, it's a completely different kind of approach to music and atmosphere.
>>52641273
Arguably it takes more skill and talent to make an enjoyable minimalist work than full-on retarded IDeM wank. Talent and complexity are different things though.
>>52641172
I'll check it out, I've been more or less going through their discography chronologically.
>>52641334
Certainly. It really is hard to find anything that enjoyable and well thought out music on all accounts as Autechre.
As for OP, the closest you can get really is Richard devine and the likes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPXYw5ph-Vg
And.IV is much more closer to Autechre than anything from an or ikeda, for sure
Well, even though Steve Reich is not an electronic composer at his core, you could find his compositions interesting if you see the beauty of repetition.
>>52641334
[2]. minimalism done right >>>>>>>>>>>>> abstractionism done right
heck, minimalism in general >>>>>>>>>>>>> abstractionism in general
>>52639211
In Autechre's case, copy's aren't as good as the original. That song could have came out ten years ago's and it would still be mediocre. Nothing about that song was "next level". Richard Devine on the other hand...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcdpsYuEgQ
>>52643366
>Richard Devine on the other hand...
Sounds just like any other IDM wanker out there.
>>52643182
>>52640876
>>52641273
>>52641712
What about abstract minimalism?
>>52643458
tru nxt-lvl
>>52643458
links
>>52643427
It came out in 03 so that's why the quality isn't up to par but it still showcase what he can do. All those intricate sounds going at once while sustaining headroom is a hard feat even among the best.
>>52631973
death grips
>>52643718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHs0LkixGvY
>>52643366
That's songs not necessarily the best example of that album, it's probaly the most accessible track on it. The thing that makes Ikeda great is how he creates complex compositions with minimal sounds.
>>52643796
>The thing that makes Ikeda great is how he creates complex compositions with minimal sounds.
Exactly.
Also, how well the album flows, especially on Dataplex.
>>52636339
This
>>52643762
Rofl, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
>>52643864
2deep4u
>>52643877
Thank Christ
>>52643910
Intricate, sophisticated
Complexity can be Melodic, Rhythmic, Timbristic, etc.
Ryoji Ikeda is rhythmically complex on Test Pattern, for example.
>>52643982
>Timbristic
>>52643982
my god you are a retard
>>52643982
>>52643995
kek
>>52643796
>it's probaly the most accessible track on it
Hmm send me the least accessible track on the ablum because the bleeps were too generic for me.
>complex compositions with minimal sounds
Venetian Snares did that back in 04 except sped up the bpm and added a touch of odd time signatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOJf0pPNxe8
>>52643995
No idea what the english word for it is, sorry.
>>52644017
You too.
>>52643982
Ikeda can be called aesthetically complex.
You're a straight-up retard for applying western, traditional norms to the kind of music Ikeda, Sachiko-M and others of that ilk make, by the way.
>>52643796
>it's probaly the most accessible track on it
That track is the culmination of the album.
>>52644089
The whole album needs to be listened as a cohesive whole. Judging from this thread you, Avant-Math and most anons on this board "get" the album only on a surface level.
>>52644147
At least you could develop an idea instead of just throwing insults like the other guys.
I agree with you though, but he asked for what I think complexity means and answered what I thought was correct. There are a lot of other types of complexity than the ones I mentioned too.
>>52644208
That's what I said here >>52643847
Don't be so quick to judge.
>>52644247
do you like vladislav delay
>>52644285
I have had him in backlog for a long time, but haven't found the right time to listen to him yet.
>>52644345
you should listen to Multila & Anima
>>52644361
I know. Entain has also been recommended to me, but like I said, haven't found the right time to listen to it.
Do you like Pan Sonic? Kesto's first disc is pretty cool.
>>52644379
prefer A by them tbh
you should check it out since you liked the first disc of Kesto and are into microsound stuff like Ikeda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=395yo8q2iBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4-9q5UDCc
>>52644233
Sorry man i get the concept of the album but I'd rather listen to something a bit more abrasive. Just isn't my cup of tea i suppose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6kIv--zgR8
>>52644379
I think Pan Sonic make texturally the most colourful and heavy noise music ever. Too bad they tend to be a bit loopy, but i heard their music is just real-time improvisations with their gear edited down.
>>52644438
Kuvaputki dvd is very cool
>>52644469
Shit doesn't get more abrasive than psychoacoustics m9.
>>52644438
Sure, I always want to listen to more Pan Sonic, but usually get disappointed because it's not Kesto :/
>>52644469
>I'd rather listen to something a bit more abrasive.
Test Pattern and Cyclo's Id
Listen to those ASAP, you will love them.
>>52644485
What I really like about Pan Sonic's Kesto is how well the "noise bursts" are used. Also, the rhythms are hypnotic and one of the few artists that makes me feel using only rhythm.
Never really cared for their "color" though, tbh.
>>52644531
are you into EAI? you might be interested in pic related, it's a collaboration between Mika Vainio from Pan Sonic, Sean Booth from Autechre and Kouhei Matsunaga aka NHKyx.
>>52644654
LINKS PLEASE
i know I am
>>52644654
Not really, but I will give it a try. What's the album name?
>>52644667
should be on slsk
>>52644674
Telepathics Meh In-Sect Connection
>>52644531
Okay I'll take your word for it sense your so charismatic about them.
>>52644682
Cool, downloading now.
>>52644706
Cyclo can be a bit repetitive at times though, but when they hit, they hit hard (especially Id#05)
>>52644667
You should be aware that it doesn't feature any rhythm or melody or anything that resembles music to normalplebs, it's more similar to Good Morning/Good Night in fact.
>>52644816
chill, i like all of those artists already
someone just recently linked this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdFMk2mheZk
and i could only find 2 albums from this dude
will look into slsk later
>>52644908
The Dance Classics Volume 1 by him are pretty cool.
>>52644908
That guy is a bit confusing with the aliases. He has a ton of material released otherwise; personally recommending Merzbow/Kouhei (a collaboration w/Merzbow), Sensational Meets Kouhei (the 2006 collab album with Sensational who himself is Death grips years before Death Grips, and Self VA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qg0rj4hJmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkmy6n2NvUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBfS6M-2nfg
>>52645031
Cheers, those sound great.
>>52645031
Matsunaga himself is proto-DG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NP8dREeXFo
i swear thom york's brain in a bottle is a straight rip/slight rearrangement off of c/pach
>>52646272
not the first time he's done it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayNljo-DQTs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogIbLaPSiY0
>>52631973
Here are my recommendations for you, OP.
Team Doyobi - Choose Your Own Adventure
Team Doyobi is sort of like Autechre if they made music on old computers like Amigas.
Oberman Knocks - Beatcroff Slabs
This album is very dark and enveloping, a bit like Draft 7.30 only spoopier.
SND - MakeSND Cassette
This one is the most different from Autechre. Imagine if Ae made minimalist music and were obsessed with house instead of electro and old hip-hop.
>>52631973
yellow magic orchestra. very lush and layered sequenced melodies in folk song arrangements. rightly titled the "godfathers of techno(pop)" below kraftwerk. it's just so much fun to listen to each line of sequences in their songs.
yellow magic orchestra (1978)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyoH2FhWlC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U16Hnzdl7p8
solid state survivor (1979)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFu66ye6YWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2lOyCxRp5s
probably more in the vein of autechre, particularly their middle works like tri repetae because of timbre
bgm (1981)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYn3uBl_KnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV6DbxkzygI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB0cwq-C77g (amazing everything about this)
technodelic (1981)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksZy6J7rx3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuXwkFlSe9w
naughty boys (1983)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRXtO3AYcFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms6Td6zWNqg
after service (1984)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3EyJrVihAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9cBLjPdAk
>>52643982
my god you are a retard [2]
>>52634193
track 3 on oversteps is my favorite Autechre piece, sounds like something you could play in a church and is really sad while a bit joyful because of the high pitched sounds, and the best part of it is that you kind of hear the melody inbetween the sounds, if you know what I mean. Like, it's not directly introduced, sometimes it's only hinted
