not really into that, but courious about general thoughts
>>51173623
The genre went from making ambient stuff out of Sade into copying and pasting Japanese stuff. It's getting annoying.
does anybody genuinely like or does somebody like it only as art concept?
>>51173682
i genuinely like floral shoppe even though i know that not much went into it
>>51173682
If you're a late bandwagoner like me, it's pretty great but if you were around before it died, it's probably overrated as fuck.
>>51173658
Nowadays it's pretty much just people half-assing chopped & screwed with random anime references or pitched-down 80s hits.
>>51173760
This. I wish more Floral Shoppes could be made but it's all just pitch shifted anime music now.
A couple of albums with a genuinely interesting, perhaps not great, sound drowned out by hundreds of kids making gimmicky shit.
i found Eccojams interesting, there on I didn't like machintosh plus at all.
anything worth a listen?
I would post recommendations of new stuff that is worth checking out, but I know if I do I will only be accused of viralling so there is no point.
>>51174013
please do
>>51173623
overrated
back in 2012 I listened to Floral Shoppe and never thought about it again, thought it was a one of a kind. Then I got into vaporwave through Saint Pepsi, though it's a very different style
>>51173658
speaking of Sade, one of my first tracks used a Sade sample
https://soundcloud.com/ben-g-9/placeholder
>>51173658
I like the artwork and some of the music, as well as the nostalgia factor, but I don't get into the socioeconomical message on capitalism.
Should I even ask for a copy of Myst? I should just accept that I will never hear it.
>>51173682
It's genuinely good. Although it's really annoying that pretty much everyone on the internet has heard it and thinks it's some ebin joke akin to Death Grips now.
>>51174303
What's not to get?
>>51174383
You should stop asking.
>>51174461
I understand it, I just don't get into it.
Key word being into.
I swear people are reading every other word I say today. :/
>>51174383
Sorry m8, I looked for it on Soulseek last night, didn't see it there either. Why do you want it so badly?
any other subgeners one should look up to to understand this new waves (like seapunk, sailorwave, etc...)
>>51174760
sportswave was a great joke genre
>>51174548
Because I loved the game and I hear that this goes well with it. Oh well. I'll come to terms that I will never get it.
>>51175182
>I hear that this goes well with it
no you don't. fuck off luke
>>51175222
>fuck off luke
>with trips
kek
>>51174303
I think Vektroid pretty much came out and admitted that it was all bullshit to enhance the genre's image or something. Not sure about the other artists though.
>>51175919
>>51175965
I remember a thread where somebody was claiming to be Vektroid and affirmed this. Most people were skeptical about whether or not it was Vektroid but whoever it was identified an obscure sample from a song and posted a picture of Vek's glasses. I would find it in the archive if I knew what to look for, but it's at least a year old by now.
>>51176116
either way it's an epic post that anyone who really wants to understand vaporwave and listen to it in 2014 needs to read
>>51175965
is this true?
What is the best ideological vaporwave?
>>51178472
like for their philosophy?
Eccojams
PrismCorp Virtual Enterprises
情報デスクVIRTUAL
Disconscious
Internet Club - Redefining The Workplace
fuji grid tv
░▒▓新しいデラックスライフ▓▒░
Infinity Frequencies - Computer Death
this is vaporware, right?
>>51178666
>devil trips
well shit I guess it is now
>>51178625
Does anyone know of any 1950s inspired vaporwave?
>>51178732
Disconscious mostly uses 50s-70s samples and Infinity Frequencies has some 40s and 50s samples thrown in occasionally
>>51178625
>philosophy
>actually caring about things like philosophy with music
No, which ones have the best sound?
>>51178985
Vaporwave is supposed to be bad, not in the so-bad-its-good way but to induce nausea at corporate nostalgia.
>>51178985
then why not just ask what the best sounding vaporwave is? what the fuck does "ideological" even mean to you then? and why are you listening to a genre that is shit if you only listen to it for the sound?
>>51179117
>not knowing I was a different person
No IDs are a beautiful thing
Still, I like the sound and look of the genre - reminds me of my dreamscapes and how the world used to be.
Don't worry, I don't need recs, was just messin with ya.
>>51179024
Strange, I find it excellent. Don't ever get feelings of nausea, just nostalgia.
>>51178390
Yeah, here's all results of her tripcode she used to use in the archive
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=W6Nwp3fnyk&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_media_hash=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
>>51179433
>no soul
See I don't get this. Every time /mu/ says a song has soul, it sounds as vapid as can be. Every time /mu/ says a song has no soul, it feels like the music is alive, beautiful, moving, full of inspiration and soul.
I fucking swear I have an alien soul, ya'll niggas ain't right.
>>51179481
>soul
*tips fedora*
>>51173837
I'll make a floral shoppe album just for you anon, give me like 6 months
>>51179541
Doesn't work like that - only atheists wear fedoras.
>>51179380
>by the way lol who the fuck is blank banshee? get the fuck out of here
vektroid, Nov 16 2012
yet blank banshee >>>> vektroid
>>51179577
And feminists
Can someone thoroughly explain vaporwave to me?
No jokes.
Straight shit.
>>51179636
Not one of those, either
>>51179678
It's like you're sitting on a train next to an attractive lady and there's a hint of her perfume in the air
>>51179553
Thanks Anon
>>51179678
1. buy the latest Apple laptop
2. purchase all 40 of the top 40 hits on iTunes
3. purchase some Beats headphones
4. go to your local shopping mall and listen to the purchased music on your beats while holding your laptop and walking around
5. purchase expensive perfume from one of the stores
6. go home and sleep with the same 40 songs playing. You will have a dream in which you are taken to the virtual plaza
7. when you awaken, you will understand vaporwave
>>51179709
*tips fedora*
>>51179737
tbh that sounds like a waste of time m8, thx anyway tho
>>51179678
Musically, vaporwave is a type of plunderphonics - music that heavily samples other music - the specific kind of music it plunders is old commercial and pop music from the early 90s.
Artistically, vaporwave is a collection of old low-res 3D graphics like you'd see in Myst or AOL combined with ancient architecture/art and japanese characters - all of this and the music are done to give a feeling of nostalgia. Some would also argue there is an alien feel, but the word I like to describe it with more is dreamlike.
Philosophically, it's supposed to be some offshot of the punk movement and of all things a musical joke, with the subject being corporate consumerism.
But getting into the whole philosophy of the culture is unnecessary to enjoy it, as musically it's very close to genres such as chill and lounge and the art is very nice. Just like punk rock, you can enjoy it for the sound and style while not giving two shits about the message.
>>51179814
>51179814
that gif is one of the vaporest things i\ve ever seen
Was gonna post about some good 2014 vaporwave but it seems everyone in here hates the genre and says its shit so ill just go
>>51181048
Fuck you talking about? I love it
>>51181048
the genre is good
2014 wasn't a good year for vapor though
>inb4 20 furious replies from 2014 producers
Vaporwave is dead.
Long life to Vaporwave.
>>51181356
guys what if OPN already released eccojams vol. 2 but disguised it as a generic bandcamp broporwave project so nobody discovers it
>>51181369
u smart guy (:
>>51181369
Myst confirmed.
Plus my captcha is "confirmed ketpefr"
>>51181393
Fuck off. As if it isn't https://martymcfly420.bandcamp.com/album/-
>>51181406
It is as if she is laughing at me for downloading that shit album
>>51181406
I am sorry to say this but this is honestly the shittest thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
At least Myst was actually listenable.
>>51181393
>>51181380
>>51181369
I wouldn't be surprised if Chuck Person was Luke Morris. I mean. It wasn't Vaporwave but it could have been early Eccojams. I wish I had downloaded it for that guy that always asks for it though. There is definitely something mysterious about it if he took it off and if people are asking for it.
>>51181475
That's fucking it. I told you to stop, but you didn't listen. I'm sending a copyright notice to the L&C of Cyan Worlds against you. I already screenshotted your bandcamp page, and even though you deleted it, you can send a request to Bandcamp for a cache. I've already done this twice for unlicensed sampling and had them threatened with copyright infringement.
>>51181594
oh god yes
please do it
BTFO
>>51181669
And you are posting this because?
It is you getting into trouble.
>>51181688
L0l. No it isn't.
>>51181695
>(You)
Are you legitimately retarded or just this desperate for attention?
>>51181701
I am a sad person with no musical tallent and was enjoying making this music. Oh well. I will never post Myst again if that really is the case that I am coming off sad. Not because of the copyright reason threatening me but because I thought that people might actually care about me on here. I will never post under Luke Morris again.
I had fun being one of you though for a little while.
I do have to say that this isn't me though>>51174383
>>51181744
Or maybe you could have just not been an autistic faggot by spamming it everywhere and faking hype and instead have been a normal decent human being by sharing it honestly in moderation. Nice sob story though.
>>51181800
Thanks! I actually meant it. Don't suppose you would be interested in hearing my non vaporwave music?
k I have an idea: someone make a fake myst album and post it here, everyone thinks its real and people stop giving a fuck about this shitty album kek
>>51179814
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3CO4GjEi6s
Dreamy commercial concepts that are perfect to an extent of being off-putting and hollow. Like an echo of music in an empty mall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPv_UbONIrc
This one is perfect.
>>51179814
nice, you got a random anon interested, post me the best chart of the starting esscentials. i want carefully crafted works
>checking the instagram of an old crush
>he is unironically into vaporwave and stuff like yung lean
>photos of him squatting wearing nike and bucket hats
did i dodge a bullet /mu/?
so is it the opposite of bubblegum bass?
>>51183030
you r not 100% correct
bubblegum bass = post-ringtone music
I liked Chuck Person's A3 or whatever. It's a chill song, reasonably pleasant. The samples are nostalgic. I don't really get the hate. It's not insanely impressive or anything but whatever.
this album is so fresh
http://www.mediafire.com/vaporwave
My humble opinion:
The music is not that bad, it's enjoyable. But it isn't breaking any grounds or anything like that (musically), it relies too much on the sample not making much difference from the original in my opinion.
Now some over-analysers like to see this thing as a depiction and mockery of an era blablablabl*buzzword*blablablabl*Am I deep right*blablablabla. My response to their thoughts on that is that music is just music, adding meaning and context on its own does not change its intrinsic musical value. Call me a purist, but knowing how some members of the band loved to rape corpses does not add meaning to their music, maybe to their aura, but that doesn't bother me. Music should evoke outside of the context.
>TL;DR It's not that good, people love to identify shit and feel like they explore new ground when they don't.
>>51183138
I kind of agree with this post other than filling in a specific argument for other people and addressing it.
>>51174303
this guy.
>>51183156
I don't fully understand what you wrote there, non native speaker here. I'm the guy who wrote that.
Would you mind rephrasing it so I can understand?
It's all sound of Eccojams + concept of FSV + nostalgic Tumblr graphics. What's sad is the idea of eccojams was that they could be done by anybody and some people decided to mush all that together and use it as a platform for attention, and Dummy entertained it. It should have just stayed people doing sunsetcorp-style videos on YouTube. It's also ridiculous how Vektroid acts like she's the authority on it. Daniel's practice has been bastardized to hell and James doesn't have anything to do with it. That frame came in went in his usual fashion
*PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT*
Artists like マクロスMACROSS 82-99, Yung Bae, and スーパーセックス永遠にSUPERSEX420 aren't vaporwave, their french house. They're also not future funk because future funk is a term coined by people to young and/or generally unaware of what french house is.
>>51183261
Calling it french house means you're unaware of what it is.
>>51183228
Nah, basically I just think it's a good post.
The
> filling in a specific argument for other people and addressing it.
is talking about this:
>Now some over-analysers like to ...
since you're arguing against a specific idea that not everybody holds.
>>51183261
Shibuya-kei maybe? Remember Fantastic Plastic Machine?
>>51183292
Oh thanks, I got confused at the grammar.
>>51183277
>uses Japanese symbols
>"french"
>sounds nothing like Daft Punk
>"house"
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
>>51184187
Shit, this was supposed to link to
>>51183261
Streaming Vapor for 2-3 hours, mostly chill stuff
http://panel9.serverhostingcenter.com:2199/tunein/ecumfmbj.pls
also check out
http://vaporwave.me/discover/
also #awesomecougars on rizon
>>51183261
What about Mike Tenay? His first album gets called future funk but its slower paced in most parts.
>>51173682
I really do genuinely love vaporwave/mallsoft. Its something totally different, but really just does something for me.
>>51186578
Same here - it's just so relaxing and full of nostalgia of simpler times
>>51186644
Absolutely. The nostalgia aspect of it is great. Have yet to find any other type of music that really takes me away quite like vaporwave does.
WHAT IS THE BEST MICROGENRE IN YOUR OPINION?
say the one with best concept and the ones with best songs.
PS: sometimes someone create a genre with a good concept, but that only crappy musicians tried to make it, and so only bad songs were made, this would be a song with bad songs, but this doenst mean the genre itself is bad
>>51175965
>and returning it to its most primordial state, "sound"
somemone should talk about onkyo with this guy
>>51182442
>being off-putting
Not at all, I love everything in that video to death. To me, the commercial concept of 3D architecture is the most beautiful thing in existence.
>>51187084
also he tried to check if people would eat vapourwave but they already eaten memoradelia, that is basically 70s vapourwave
>>51173799
Not really, most respected vaporwave artists nowadays are either trap or synth pop influenced, with predominantly original compositions.
>>51173623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Hq-aLKYWs
in a nutshell
>>51179678
Does not compute, vaporwave is a joke.
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nice meme
>>51187612
Nice autism
Is Bo En vaporwave?
In that case, I like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUCSxPnBIMY
>>51187675
It has some vapory elements, but I dunno if I'd call it vaporwave
>>51187782
What would you call it?
Anyone here listened to atmospheres 3 yet?
personal ranking
Atmos1>2>3
sever decline in the atmosphere of atmospheres project as it has gone on TBH
>>51187872
agreed
>>51182502
If the res on this picture sucks ill just post it again cause i think it is, but idk
>>51188199
That's a picture for ants, m8
>>51188222
sry 1 sec
>>51188199
>>51188222
Sorry internets fucked
>>51188338
Thanks, man!
https://clearvisiondreamproductions.bandcamp.com/album/--3
thoughts?
>>51187809
Art Pop / Shibuya-kei / Wonky
>>51187675
No, it's not vaporwave. People who make vaporwave call it vaporwave.
>>51181406
Terrible music but great taste in anime qts :)
>>51188338
this is awesome, thanks
It was pretty good and I still have some of the genres more ambient songs in my playlist but it got taken over and turned into a meme genre focused around "nostalgia"
how does one get into making vaporwave?
i have no idea where you would even start, or what software/equipment would be needed
>>51188981
Audacity
>>51188941
that's all there was to it
you just try to remember it better than it actually ever was
>>51188754
http://youtu.be/-kn2ogbiOuk
<3 my Kagura
>>51189154
omg she is literally perfect. I bet she has a tight muscular body and reeks of the sweetest stench after a work out.
>>51189280
I can live with all those things bar Muscular body.
>>51189280
>wanting a waifu to stink
vaporwave is shit
>>51189378
>>51189392
I want casuals to leave.
>>51189474
>implying I'm casual
>implying I don't want to be anal-vored by my dickgirl waifu
>>51189651
come on buddy, you seriously don't want your waifu to smell great?!? Please tell me what you'd want your waifu to smell like. Fucking cherry blossoms? lmao
>>51188199
>>51188338
Dream Catalogue please stop shilling
This chart sucks, even though I'm pretty sure you aren't a rea l interested person, just a reply DC made to post this shit shill chart
>>51189651
Why are dickgirls and dickgirl lovers so rife within vaporwave?
>>51190020
the genre was literally invented by a tranny