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>HACKtress
lel
>>50678046
Daily Reminder that DJ RAP was a nude model
>>50678046
Is /bleep/ all the EDM sub-genres?
>>50678103
>EDM
k i l l y o u r s e l f
Introducing /bleep/ brand t shirts
>>50678103
trap, brostep, big room and deep house exclusively
>>50678103
bleep is worthwhile dance music and therefore excludes music with no merit (EDM) or that is not danceable (IDM) but includes everything else... from techno to jungle to grime
Is Mickey Pearce good?
He's supporting Kahn & Neek and Lil Silva at some thing I'm hittin up next month
>>50678080
lel
>>50678150
why the fuck was a shitty pop band included on this
>>50678150
might cop one of these and a tattoo
>>50678202
>New Order
>shitty pop band
K
>>50678163
How is there no merit to EDM?
>>50678222
Anyone ever call the phone number?
>>50678202
ok you can stop now
>>50678150
You forgot this one.
>>50678163
Does that include UK Hardcore and Gabber? I hardly see those being discussed in /mu/, but I may just lurk at the wrong time.
>>50678251
some guy here did and posted this (it's also on discogs):
I called the LACR phone number the other day. At first when I called it wouldn't go through, but it worked the second time.
It sent me to a voicemail message that had police sirens and police chatter and over this I could hear people saying how ghetto and thug they were, in the background was a slowed down funk style edit of 'Rod Stewart - Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?' after about 2 minutes of this it beeped and when to voicemail saying that the person wasn't accepting phone calls.
Just fyi, if you guys are into jungle, /bleep/ does have a sister thread for junglists over here: >>50660126
>>50678274
yeah sure. they get discussed a bit
>>50678243
because it's deliberately trying to appeal to as many people as possible with the sole purpose of generating money and has therefore suffered in terms of artistic merit as it's just become a bunch of sellable cliches for the sake of profit. it's an unashamed parody of itself
>>50678380
You mean the songs that all sound the same just with different lyrics?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsn1EtzgCN4
epic! I love electro!
>>50678440
>bang
>Big Room Tech House DJ Tool - TIP!
what
>>50678432
not really no, but to some extent maybe. i can see you're trying to put words in my mouth but essentially it boils down that EDM is pursued generally as a money maker (who writes jungle to make top dollar for instance?) and in order to make money it needs to appeal to as many people as possible, so it lacks invention and personality as it's constantly trying capture the widest audience by watering itself down and diluting itself
>>50678240
there is much better synth pop
>>50678545
like?
>>50678545
Except New Order was highly innovative, plus the band members were part of one of the most influential post-punk groups of all times, plus the band ran Factory Records and the Hacienda nightclub which are definitely both /bleep/.
>>50678380
All right, maybe I should start the topic about those. I really like how UK Hardcore has been evolving into becoming something closer to trance. Based Hardcore Underground is saving the industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF6vYOx-cwE
>>50678579
stop replying to this guy, it's not funny
>>50678545
mate you literally don't know the first thing about music lol sorry
i bet you were that annoying spoilt brer as a kid who thought they were the best guitarist ever but would totally murder smoke on the water
but they'd stick their tongue out and grimace like they were concentrating bare in the hope that people would think they were cool even though they were slightly overweight and dressed like fred durst
that is literally you mate
>>50678584
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF6vYOx-cwE
[vomits externally]
That's not what we mean by hardcore. THIS is the kind of shit we're talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4o9veYykg
>>50678536
So what music style do you listen to?
>>50678579
>New Order was highly innovative
How so?
>>50678668
Blue Monday
>>50678584
Post as many links as you can of hardcore / gabber. I've been meaning to give it a proper chance but have never known where to start really... as in, I don't know if what i've found on youtube is the equivalent to hearing Gesaffelstein and thinking all techno is like that, you know?
>>50678695
what about it
>>50678668
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaLyUFSU8A
>>50678738
It was highly innovative
>>50678659
I listen to all sorts to be honest... why do you ask? currently have this spinning if it's of any interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTF6qx55ojc
>>50678817
where's the drop?
>>50678837
about 6:10mins onwards or something. big shit happens around there
>>50678817
just wondering what your idea of good music was... What genre is this?
>>50678926
Extratone
>>50678767
man why is the sound on that video so distorted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjKwZ5R5cJM
>>50678926
Ah fair... I guess it's deep house. German / Euro style of deep house though, and more specifically a Workshop kind of sound (the label it's on).
>>50678615
Of course that's not what you mean with hardcore, the current industry is going by different ways right now, even though I'm enjoying it.
>>50678711
The prodigy was a main influence when it comes to Breakbeat Hardcore and the new UK Hardcore industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_XU6UT5oL0
the remix is also a great example of it's evolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqlCPOWXbYc
Also, I can't help but use Scott Brown as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4JRRCJttqg for UK Hardcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuMe_7UWI1o for gabber
If you want older stuff just tell me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESVFnK1u1pw
>implying you wouldn't put this in the club
>implying people wouldn't go crazy
bang
>>50678949
So how do you find new music?
>>50679030
lmaoe
>>50679022
>The prodigy was a main influence when it comes to Breakbeat Hardcore and the new UK Hardcore industry.
You mean they gave birth to the toytown variation of breakbeat hardcore which eventually killed breakbeat hardcore.
>>50678803
please if new order is innovative then so is radiohead
>>50679067
right fucking sesame's treet and other garbage
>>50679083
please just go away
>>50679030
Con que necesidad?
>>50679013
So what about labels like Spinning, Whos afraid of 138 and smash the house
>>50679116
>>50679116
dunno man, sorry. don't know those labels
>>50679116
>big room garbage
fuck off
I'd say this is pretty good for dubstep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYxqen_J18Y
>>50674723
holy shit this thread
>>50679260
epic
holy shit this thread:
>>50677758
>>50679115
>y agita
>y agita la botesha
>y agita
>y agita la botesha
TOTY
>>50679304
stop stop stop stop
it hurts to read
>>50679304
the way people refer to actual dance music genres in that thread instead of using umbrella therms like EDM or techno or electro or electronica makes me think that it might be /bleep/ mememasters
s/t is your brain big enough for workshop
>>50679531
toplel, no
>>50679444
I don't think so. Some kid just posted datsik as an example of good dubstep and then called me a faggot.
>>50679444
Maybe somewhat, but then again hating uk garage has become a meme for some reason
>>50679574
Well whoever is posting the /bleep/ genres is most definitely a /bleep/ man. Or Antz.
I haven't listened to dubstep since 2009
>>50679620
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
>>50679636
Anytime
I'm listening to dubstep right now
This is the greatest song of all time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLxDRePUwEY
EDM is short for electronic dance music, but the terms are used differently.
EDM = "bro"-tier stuff, electrohouse, brostep, trance in general etc.
electronic dance music = electronic music made for dancing
all EDM is electronic dance music, but not vice versa.
#TheMoreYouKnow
>>50680042
This is who you are sharing a board with
>>50679850
>1989
Mindblowing stuff.
post tracks buddies
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9usge0Vf64
Some current favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWYnfnspbfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89N_ip3N_Io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngrdciksink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9N36HPmNfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQCAe5Pab8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kG8jUxLalI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzcPt3l0osM
And here is a mix I did today full of music you guys would probably hate:
https://soundcloud.com/arod1122/time-machine-of-funk-mix
Considering Disco moved into Deep House, House moved into Deep House etc. What do you think is the future of Electronic Dance Music?
>>50680665
somehow you manage to make the simple act of posting a tune all about you
>>50681248
Jungle
>>50681299
There were some great tunes posted in that jungle thread
Anyone listen Sexy Sushi?
any man in
bumpin for euros
wake up lads
can we discuss how good this is
>>50680071
Can we just stop talking about this? Anyone in the know understands this, anyone who isn't can pick it up quick enough.
Anyway, I went and saw Jeff Mills with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra last friday night, it was fantastic, although I think it needed a little bit more doof as the orchestra overpowered his machines a bit. Fuck, the cellos and shit sounded so lush though, and it was just a great show. I think we need more shows like that, although I guess Jeff Mills is about the only person who could pull it off.
Anyone got a link to Objekt's LP that isn't 128 kbps? it's the only one I could find in the archive and can't find it in rutracker, tpb or soulseek
>>50686604
nvm I found it in soulseek
>tfw you will never be oneman
hey /bleep/. normally I listen to /bloop/ stuff but lately I've been getting into Objekt, especially his more recent releases. has anyone got any recs for techno with elements of glitch/high attention to detail?
>>50687342
objekt does it best. no one else really has that same level of attention to detail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTofdZe0syk
^an objekt tune you won't have heard
does proangelwings posts in /bleep/?
>>50686630
i got one from there, it was just a re-encoded 128.
Is this the best essentials chart /mu/ ever made?
>>50688306
+FSoL, LFO, Plug
>>50688306
-Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk, Fatboy "Burial" Slim, Portishead, The Prodigy, Röyksopp
everything else is decent at least but i don't like the concept of putting everything electronic under one chart. big beat is for fucking rolling stone/nme reviewers exclusively, yawn
>>50684378
ACID
>>50686630
it's a transcode tho
does objekt uses dr drum?
>>50688667
who doesn't?
>>50678150
Would cop that KLF shirt
>>50679850
That's top 3 for sure.
>>50688306
Half that stuff is boring-ass /mu/core/.
Also, you don't put everything under "Electronic", that's just stupid. It'd be like putting a Bob Dylan album next to Darkthrone and labelling them "Guitars".
someone make a proper chart for the plebs to keep quiet
>>50690013
why are club promoters such utter bellends
there are so many fucking club promoters in leeds it's ridiculous, what's worse is that some suddenly think they're the man about town and above everyone else as soon as they move away from their hometown and become a 'big time' promoter
http://strawpoll.me/2792772
>>50679030
>blowhorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1zIhVICwA
>>50690503
>http://strawpoll.me/2792772
what's the point of this when americans invented dance music anyway lol
>>50690503
voted!
>>50690790
yay! xD xD
Is Soma still relevant?
>>50687484
really good track here
>>50690099
subtle
>>50681391
>>50681299
post good jungle
>>50690922
:P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arLsBu3xmac
2014
where's wp666? is s/t Summer? haven't been to these threads for a while
>>50691538
s/t is a shitposter, mildly entertaining
wp666 said he's been busy last time he was here, he said he a lot of work IRL and hasn't been focusing much on music.
/r/ing the /bleep/ troll dubstep essentials chart
>>50691538
also no one makes the youtube playlist anymore now that wp666 is gone :(
>>50691594
You do it
>>50691580
>>50691594
wetpants69 was here yesterday lol
>mfw i'm considering shelling out 90€ on a weeaboo house 12inch that's not even that good but i really can't find a rip anywhere
what's the most expensive vinyl you guys own?
>>50690485
Which promoters are you talking about m8?
>>50691653
what's that weeaboo house?
most expensive in terms of what i paid for it or most expensive in terms of what it's worth?
>>50691685
both
>>50691733
i don't buy records man sorry lol
>>50691653
£450 on floral shoppe cassette
>>50691741
yeah i know it was stupid of me to ask knowing the fuckboys in these threads just download whatever's been added to nodata on that day
>>50691758
hahahaha now that's pure /mu/
>>50691580
>s/t is a shitposter
implying
>>50691832
>implying implications
>>50691786
sorry i was just being a dickhead for no reason. most valuable record i own is terekke lies BLK as that was on discogs for $25,000
@theblackdog losing their minds on twitter right now over the whole 'techno is black music' thing
i dunno why people get so wound up about this
>>50692103
i don't have twitter, are they implying that techno is not black music and getting flamed for it or are they getting trolled by /pol/tards claiming it's not
>>50692239
>claiming it isn't
>being a pol/tard/
you know the two things don't have to be mutually inclusive
>>50692239
no /pol/tards that i can detect but who knows who anyone is these days
some valid points on both sides tbh, altho i agree with the premise that techno in particular is black music
but that might just be an age thing
>>50692239
>>50692425
techno is industrial, emotionless and white
house is urban, soulful and black
>>50692448
yeah like i say i'm not getting into a big debate about origins or even style, but black people came up with the word techno so it's their word, idgaf otherwise
>>50692239
the black dog are the /pol/tards in this instance
I'd rather have a debate on whether or not Cactus is dubstep again than discuss this. At this point it's a really dull topic
>>50692479
popular rumor has it that the word "techno" came from the word Technopolis, which happens to be a 1979 track by Yellow Magic Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2lOyCxRp5s
https://what.cd/torrents.php?id=72812607
>>50692524
cactus is bro step
ganzfeld is idm
both good tho
Has anyone checked out Low Jack's new label Gravats ? The first EP is really cool if you're into lacr/lies and that kind of stuff
>>50692619
didn't like low jack's lies thing one bit tbh but will look into his label as i do like that stuff a lot
>>50692425
>altho i agree with the premise that techno in particular is black music
I disagree. It's primitive to be sure, but it is not strongly African American. Even if a group of black people made it, it generally is not a part of the larger African American culture.
>>50692645
half true
It was still predominantly a result of detroit's black culture but was perpetuated by middle class kids
>>50692535
Atkins says he ripped it from Alvin Toffler's writings
Alvin Toffler is white tho
>>50692711
someone else might've gotten to it eventually
besides, techno isn't black music or white music or any kind of color
techno is machine music
>>50692761
>someone else might've gotten to it eventually
>besides, techno isn't black music or white music or any kind of color
>techno is machine music
definitely, it really just plays off of what the Italian Futurists were talking about
>>50691653
what 12"?
>>50692479
>>50692535
>>50692772
>>50692761
>>50692645
>>50692448
relevant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYD_7etGCrQ
>year 208174
>everybody in extended habitable universe is brown
"techno is black music"
>wtf is a black people lamao
captcha 303
>>50692878
why would anyone make such a statement in a post-racial society
>>50692761
smh
>>50692892
my point exactly
>>50692878
>year 20902930 all the black people are dead after the great genocide of 2015
>feels good man.jpg
>>50692908
>>50684378
I like this album, but every Daniel Avery track sounds like a mixture between Rez and Erotic Discourse.
>>50692998
underrated post
Is it weird that I didn't "get" techno until I tried MDMA for the first time?
>>50691383
Isn't jungle just a more racist term for hip-hop though?
>>50693083
good meme
Extremely excellent electro mix from Record Loft, Berlin
>Electro Tape Mix Vol. 1 (Mixed by DJ Back Q & DJ Caise)
https://soundcloud.com/therecordloft/electro-tape-mix-vol-1-mixed-by-dj-back-q-dj-caise
Anyone been to Concrete in Paris?
>>50693237
no. plan on going?
bookings there are insane
>>50693047
not weird, but it makes you a poser
>>50693047
no, as long as you get it
>>50693237
i usually avoid it because it's full of douchebags but the lineups are still really good. i'm actually going to see karenn there tomorrow
>>50693248
No, but I've added it to my list of clubs to go to, seems like they've always got someone I like on.
>>50692794
you know which one...
>>50693291
right on. def on my list of places to visit.
>>50693237
HA I WENT TO FUCKING REX CLUB INSTEAD
REX CLUB IS FUCKING SHIT
>>50693251
IDK, I always thought it was repetitive, but then I realised that it's MEANT to be reptitive. The beauty of techno is being entranced in the rhythm and the layering building and falling, I love techno now, listen to it all the time, but it just never "clicked" until then.
ALL RISE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzU5Q4uI3iw
>>50693337
Brace in for a disappointment if you expect Concrete to be better. Unless you like partying next to douchey 20yo trust fund kiddies on bunk MDMA. The soundsystem at Rex is wack and it's small as hell but there's a really good vibe on some nights, you just didn't pick the right one. It's really hard to have fun at Concrete imho
>>50693357
>neglecting repetition as the fundamental concept of music
do people really do this
>>50693401
these kids haven't even heard any reich
>>50693251
says the guy that's never even been to the club, let alone done a couple of bombs at the club. lmfaoe
>>50693401
>>50692641
His album was pretty conceptual stuff, his more clubby stuff is way more straightforwards
http://youtu.be/YcmJ3H9F3Bc
>>50693385
that's exactly what rex was like 4 me lol
it felt like a student union club with techno playing instead
batofar for dixon avenue basement jams was good tho, boat clubs seem to be a good niche of paris
>>50693401
I did.
>>50693421
I actually love Steve Reich, all kinds of minimalism, in fact I think a lot of the stuff I enjoy is the stuff that is "repetitive". It's weird.
>>50693421
they just come in on their bangarangs, decide it isn't artful enough, then lead into (of course) the typical "rec me more like (whatever) except more through-composed"
>>50693435
>>50693421
yeah it's true. i don't get why repetition is somehow bad and how how the same three guitar chords looped over and over doesn't count as repetition because there's different lyrics. weird
>>50693463
that's real neat m8 but literally it isn't
>>50693470
because of the deep lyrics and their associated nonmusical distractions that give them their "cinematic" "narrative"
telltale signs that you're dealing w/ someone who isn't a formalist
>>50693552
it literally is actually
>>50693440
it really pains me to say this now that techno labels from france are getting more active and all but very few people are actually into clubbing as a culture.
It's just that teens who were obsessed about Ed Banged five years are now obsessed by berghain and ostgut ton shit. idk if there are other french lurkers here but that's REALLY how it feels to me
>>50693463
>>50693577
think this is the case all over m8, it's very in vogue in scotland rn to claim you love dancemania and ghetto house and listening to nothing else, while this maybe isn't EDM kids or whatever it's people who pretend to be above that but still are only into what's popular
>>50693577
Berlin here, Berghain is pretty shit as of 2014
Pains me to see what happened to Ed Banger lately btw, I guess since SebastiAn is gone they can't do shit right anymore
>>50693573
don't expect me to take you quoting some hack like Eno at face value
here are some other choice cards
>What would your closest friend do?
>Honour thy error as a hidden intention.
>Try faking it!
>Ask your body.
metaphysical refuse
>>50693632
>>50693577
where are the good clubs lads, where are the good nights, where are the unspoiled scenes
>>50693552
>deep lyrics
lmao
>2014
>going to big club
>expecting a good vibe
>>50693644
all of those are solid advices
>>50693630
>it's very in vogue in scotland rn to claim you love dancemania and ghetto house
i did not know this and would've never expected it lol
>>50693435
go away hackhausen
>>50693662
do you even go to clubs in like alabama or where ever ur from
>>50693672
it's cause jackmaster and subclub started to get a lot of attention so everyone wants to be like them
how does this make you feel
>>50693692
i live in the Bay Area and yes, go to clubs at least once a week
>>50693652
any big city a few years ago
>>50693708
indifferent
>>50693665
no, all of them are quirky paradoxes
if the history of 'Oblique Strategies' wasn't recorded anywhere id have a proper suspicion that he pulled the entire list off of a buzzfeed article
>>50693644
>implying those aren't great ways of lateral thinking
>>50693672
DABJ are based here too, there's loads of it
>>50693726
they are still solid advices tho
>>50693715
you should save your money then if its not good vibes
>>50678046
what bleep should I listen to.
Aphex Twin and Venetian Snares are two of they few artists I like.
I don't listen to music very often
daily reminder ghettoville is still album of the decade
>>50693777
yes, but its hard not to support friends who play.
the vibes are never that awful, just never compare to undergrounds
>>50693781
Anything with a banging donk
>at least 5 sick nights to choose from thursday, friday, saturday this week
>will be going to none of them
It's so shit when you can't get people to go
>>50693781
>what bleep should I listen to
gonna be honest with you here and say that i don't care at all. listen to whatever you want. i'm not going to tell you.
>Aphex Twin and Venetian Snares are two of they few artists I like.
maybe you will like The Flashbulb or Squarepusher then. most stuff discussed here is kind of house / techno based and doesn't really accommodate for this kind of stuff. Hard Normal Daddy by Squarpusher is considered a classic though
>I don't listen to music very often
cool
>>50693775
>if you cannot think for yourself sure
look you still haven't convinced me even a bit of the validity of "repetition is a form of change" so why not we get back on that track
>>50693781
Drexciya
wp69 is worse than s/t and summer combined
what is with these amerifat nametards
>>50693837
not him but i could
but i cba lol
>>50693843
Drexciya should be the standard answer to every bleep question.
>>50693854
feel free to filter
>>50693871
i'm fairly sure i have every single track ever released by Gerald Donald
>>50693775
>>50693837
>>50693856
Brian Eno:
>I think we're sort of deep in the grid period of making music-- well, we're probably emerging from it a little bit now, I would say. You know how eras always have a sound to them and you don't realize it until the era has gone? I remember when in the early days of rock'n'roll, when everything sounded totally different, all amazing and blah blah blah blah blah. Now you can play me one second of any record from that time, and I'll say "1959" or "1961." I can hear precisely. It's like it has a huge date stamp on it. And I think we're all capable of doing that. You can hear the profile of a sound, in retrospect, so much more clearly than you did at the time. And I think one of the things that's going to be nauseatingly characteristic about so much music of now is its glossy production values and its griddedness, the tightness of the way everything is locked together.
>I just got an amazing 10-CD set, it's the music that Alan Lomax recorded in Haiti in 1936. And what's incredible is how fantastic the drummers are and how off-the-grid they are. The liveliness is astonishing; they're just totally alive, these recordings. It's very interesting, to me, to be reminded of that, that there was a time when things were not that tight. And we're going through this super-uptight era, which I think comes entirely from literacy, actually. It's the result of machines that were designed as word processors being used for making music. Because that's what we're doing, after all. All the programs we're using started their lives, really, as word processing programs and the concepts that typify word processing, like "cut and paste," "change typeface."
>>50693632
>Pains me to see what happened to Ed Banger lately btw
We Are Your Friends was 10 years ago. Just wait for the electrohouse revival that's going to happen sooner or later
>>50693775
>>50693837
>>50693856
>>50693920
>"undo," in particular. That's a very important one because-- well, I had an interesting day. I was in the studio with a group of musicians, who shall remain nameless, and I said to them "Our exercise today is not to use 'undo' at all. So, there's no second takes. Or, if you do a second take, you have to do the whole take. There's no sort of drop in, change that little bit. The session broke down in, I'd say, 40 minutes. It was impossible for people to work in that restriction any longer. I think that's very significant that we're so attached to the idea now of-- it was something I advocated for years, that you can make music in studios, music doesn't have to be made as a real-time experience. But now you see the results of that in people who are completely crippled unless they know that they have the possibility of "cut and paste" and "undo." And "undo" and "undo" and "undo" and "undo" and "undo" again.
le no cheating grampa face
brian eno is the most irrelevant with regards to pure repetition. his repetition is the sort where
>oh wow just listen to this amazing record
>amazing because you can really hear how tired the guitarists fingers are become
>after playing the same "lick" for 42 minutes
vomitrocious
>>50693912
Is such a thing even possible?
>>50693953
While I think that there's definetely something to be said for laziness and technological alienation in music, Eno's arguments are quite bad.
>>50693968
yeah. i really want to meet him one day.
i wish he had the same cult following as aphex twin
>>50693953
i get it haha
but thing is he's a conceptualist, he can't even start making something without having some imaginative idea first
it's mad tho that he's gone so far with it that he ends up with these arsey sounding justifications and criticisms
its cos art crit is seen as an artform
really tho only 2 things bug me about him
1 that he doesn't get how good his stuff was or even why it was good
2 he works with morons by choice
>>50693950
Honestly I just want SebastiAn back, the rest just copied his and Oizo's stuff anyways
>>50694028
> the rest just copied his and Oizo's stuff anyways
it's definitely true for oizo, not sure about sebastian i never liked his shit anyway. also i said that in an earlier thread but the correspondences between the noisy shit that's currently in fashion and early ed banger are really funny to me
>>50693953
>oh wow just listen to this amazing record
>amazing because you can really hear how tired the guitarists fingers are become
>after playing the same "lick" for 42 minutes
I see nothing bad about this
>>50694015
him being a conceptualist doesn't mean his concepts will be any good
>The idea that the computer is a completely neutral device that doesn't have a personality of its own and just liberates you to do anything you want-- it's complete cock. You just make different music on a computer. And you can make wonderful music on a computer, but don't pretend that the machinery is transparent. It makes as much difference to what you're doing as it does if you play an acoustic guitar as opposed to a kettledrum. You're not going to make the same music.
bouncing his music to any digital medium discredits the validity of this argument
>I think, some really interesting new instruments that have come out that sort of show me the direction of the future. Korg has introduced the-- they've had a whole series now of these things called Kaoss Pads. They're wonderful because they do get your muscles working again
>Then you have-- there's another Korg instrument called the Wavedrum, which is a great, great instrument.
mfw
>>50694128
its in reference to his "repetition is a form of change"
for which that situation does not apply because it is not a pure form of repetition
>>50694128
great
>>50694119
Fair enough, but funny you should mention that; SebastiAn claimed that he tried to incorporate more soul and the feel of old motown records on his album because "everyone is trying to be loud and heavy now"
Too bad it sucked tho
>/bleep/
>trying to be academic / philosophical about music
lmao
>>50694149
>it is not a pure form of repetition
why not
>>50694171
his album bombed but "Embody" was HUGE in France when it was released
>>50693435
http://www.stockhausen.org/ksadvice.html
>Following Stockhausen's advice to our Technocrats, we decided to play them excerpts from the compositions which the German composer suggested they listen to and learn from. Here's what they had to say...
>[...]
>Richie Hawtin was not awailable for his comments on Zyklus.
Every time.
>>50694226
Yeah, Embody was cool, but the interludes sound like they should've been full tracks and the full tracks sound boring and shit
>>50694179
really this. most people here would be posting about flying lotus, crystal castles and neutral milk hotel in 2010
>>50694183
because repetition at its purest form is
>something being repeated in identical form aka without change
and his musings on 'grid music' lead only to the conclusion that to him the change that occurs within repetition being a byproduct of the methods used to attempt the repetition of a music idea
so geetarists getting tired or somebody playing the drum louder in one loop than the next isn't a change, it's an implementation error
>>50694179
>>50694275
>club music is dumb
>club music isn't art
>>>/bloop/
>>50694333
>club music=bleep
dude naw
>>50694269
i never actually cared enough to listen to his album.
While we're on this topic i think everyone should listen to some early/FCom era Oizo. It's sad he never really tried to make club music because he had some potential, not that i don't like his semi-experimental more clever than you shit.
>>50694347
are you literally retarded.
>>50694333
way to miss the point i was trying to make retard
>>50694361
So like Analog Worms Attack and all that? I loved that album, didn't check out the follow up yet though. I feel like he's trying harder and harder to offend the club scene with each new album now, and I can't say I don't appreciate it, but it'd be nice to see what he could do if he tried hard like he (maybe) did on his debut.
>>50694333
club music fans =/= club music
club music = good
club music fans = retards
>>50694333
You're being dumb mate. I didn't say club music was dumb or isn't art... I said /bleep/ posters being philosophical is funny, because theres dumbasses here like you.
>>50694416
No, his very first EP. Not everything from Fcom has aged gracefully but there are interesting tracks.
http://youtu.be/2VoAgl2wGQM
http://youtu.be/X0lT082reCI
>>50694526
Shit man, this sounds like a lot of the stuff that's being put out these days and being considered forward thinking
Dude really was way ahead of the game
