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Contractually 2005-2014
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but that album sucks
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>>50360796
The inferior Battles album
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>>50360831
>muh Tyondai whistles

Face it, Gloss Drop is really the point where the band honed their craft and focused their ideas on creating a cohesive math pop album. Mirrored was too scatterbrained.
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>>50360756
no
>>50360791
yes
>>50360796
no
>>50360820
no
>>50362416
no

all great albums though
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NLDW>TMS
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This album is their most "safe" album yeah, but dear god it's great
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>>50362438
I completely agree, they aren't popular enough effete I think 30 years from now people will be playing them on the radio
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>>50362448
I agree, but tms is more popular and easier to get into
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>>50362482
OK Computer will always be remembered more greatly (in quantity, not quality) but I can see this.
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>>50362522
Deafheaven? I know this is a silly comparison but I can see it occupying a space similar to Loveless: admired by many afficionados and "more knowledgeable" people but the popular public is generally unaware of it.
>>50362580
Probably the most interesting album to consider. I'm eagerly awaiting the future to see how it will be remembered.
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Isn't modern classics something that is considered a classic album in modern times? Something like London Calling or The Velvet Underground & Nico? Wouldn't you all be referring int his thread to future classics?
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also Fleet Foxes s/t
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>>50360820
>>50362482
>>50360796
albums that'll stand the test of time

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>>50362466
>>50360756
albums that no one will give a fuck about 20 years from now
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>>50362569
My thoughts were bearing in mind the 2005-14 limit, but I agree that OKC will always be the one remembered
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>>50362610
>Gloss Drop
>more memorable than MBDTF
that's some shitty b8
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we're in big fucking trouble if this is the best we've got
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>>50362650
>MBDTF
>memorable

kek what's memorable or timeless about it?
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>>50362650
agreed, like it or not MBDTF is going to stand time
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>>50362416
100 percent agreed.
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>>50362713
don't start guys, you'll fuck this thread up

i agree tho, if anything Yeezus takes the cake here
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>>50362713
Massive popular appeal plus all of the drama and grandiosity that went around the album's release.
You'd have to be one naive, deluded motherfucker to say it won't be remembered.
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>>50362713
>unknown anon thinks his opinion on an album matters at all

It's loved by critcs and fans alike. You'll be forgotten about sooner than MBDTF lmao
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in the underground/indie scene at least:

Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
Tame Impala - Lonerism
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
Madlib x Freddie Gibbs - Piñata
The War on Drugs - Lost in the Dream
Aphex Twin - Syro
Mac DeMarco - 2
The Books - The Lemon of Pink
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>>50362768
>Cosmo
eh, maybe? debatable.
>Lonerism
Good choice.
>Pinata
Nah.
>Lost in the Dream
fuck no.
>Syro
I could see it, but I'm edging towards no.
>anything Mac DeMarco
fuck no
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>>50362768
>Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
maybe
>Tame Impala - Lonerism
no
>Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
hell no
>Madlib x Freddie Gibbs - Piñata
heeeelll no
>The War on Drugs - Lost in the Dream
this album was so not memorable, still good
>Aphex Twin - Syro
aphex twin yes, syro maybe as it's his last release in the genre
>Mac DeMarco - 2
no
>The Books - The Lemon of Pink
haven't heard
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>>50362768
>syro
topkek
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>>50362823
>as it's his last release in the genre
He's planning on doing more.
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>>50362767
>It's loved by critcs and fans alike
so are hundreds of other albums, but i don't know why expected a comprehensive answer from a kanye fan
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>>50362798
Although I like all those albums I mentioned, an album getting a classic status depends more on the listeners than the actual quality. Lost in the Dream has been pretty big and I'd say Mac DeMarco is booming now.
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>>50362864
sigh you're correct.
It'll be one of those shitty nostalgia albums though, like Appetite for Destruction.
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>>50362713
>the style
>the arrangements
>the features
>the fact that it was essentially a middle finger to everyone who shat on Kanye after the TayTay incident.
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>>50362865
he said he was done with the genre and that was the reason he was releasing Syro, to give closure while he works on his new sound.

the way he said it, i don't think it will sound anything like what we've heard, for better or worse.
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>>50362836
>not understanding the genius of Syro

how can people think they are entitled to an opinion if they can't even understand Aphex Twin
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>>50362901
Ah, OK. I just meant that he was definitely releasing more records.
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>>50362880
that album is great nigga whatcha talkin bout.

maybe more like Suburban Light, but yeah it will have the nostalgia factor.
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I'll pick this one.
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>>50360791
anyone that says no is delusional, even if you think it's bad, it is still the defining album of the decade so far.
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What about RAM?
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>>50362969
I think its one of the most overrated albums of all time but still, I think that is the closest to a classic we have right now
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>>50362969
i really like it and i don't think it was that influential ):

channel ORANGE was way more influential (not same year, whatever).
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>>50362987
thats actually a good question. RAM didn't resonate with old Daft Punk fans a lot but if tumblr audiences stick to their tastes this might be a classic someday. if thats the case then there is a possibility of Born to Die and AM becoming classics too, but I doubt it.
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>>50363006
Exactly. Even if you hate it, it will unarguably be a classic.
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jazz classic
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>>50362969
>it is still the defining album of the decade so far.
it's a shame such a musically poor album can hold this title
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>>50363023
I'm not saying it's influential I'm saying it's culturally important. It captures the current obsession with celebrity culture better than anything.
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>>50363023
I think you're the first anon I've ever seen say channel ORANGE is influential at all. Any reason why you think it is?
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>>50363084
I've never seen anyone discuss this album.
The single is an instant classic though.
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>>50363193
fucking really?
>>50363225
MPP definitely moreso but possibly
>>50363233
literally who?
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>>50362873
ITS GOOD FAGIT
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>>50362873
That doesn't affect its remembrance.
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>>50363259
>literally who?

oh right I'm on /mu/
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>>50363073
It's a lyrical masterpiece. The way he tackles the themes with such class and sentimentality really contrasts with the mainstream hip-hop artists of the era. That with his coming out of the closet before the album dropped broke a lot of stereotypes.

The music itself is really interesting too, the soulful falsetto singing mixed with rap and really repetitive beats while still keeping the songs interesting was done beautifully. Everyone started doing the soulful falsetto thing for a while.

New Beyoncé clearly was influenced by him, I don't think artists like Cakes da Killa or Childish Gambino would have gained so much traction without channel ORANGE.
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>>50363279
What's that supposed to mean?
If it doesn't occupy a position in popular culture it obvious isn't a fucking modern classic.
>>50363315
Obviously not.
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>>50363073
because sex obviously
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Deerhunter in general, really
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>>50362987
No, it's still bland
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>>50363338
In the UK the Kaiser Chiefs were like the most popular band from 2006-2008.

It's an instant classic, anon, stop being edgy.
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I miss 2010
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>>50363338
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>>50363338
>If it doesn't occupy a position in popular culture it obvious isn't a fucking modern classic.

i think we're doing future /mu/core or even future lewronggeneration-core, not really Madonna kind of classic.
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>>50363304
I can respect that. I wasn't trying to knock the album because I really like it and I guess the influence of it falls short because I don't really listen to the artists you mentioned.

>>50363341
sex's good
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>>50363046
Hell no. The closest thing to a classic that I see right now is When the Heart Emerges Glistening. Not to say there aren't plenty that I like better, but the fact is that almost nobody pays any attention to modern jazz.
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>>50363338
リサフランク420 / 現代のコンピュー
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>>50363414
In that context then, I guess it makes sense.
I've been thinking the real popular context.
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List one shitty track on this album. You cant
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>>50363400
whos head is that
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>>50363338
its all in your head
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>>50362599
Yeezus is a perfect portrait of its time, but people will think it was ahead of its time because they didnt see coming any of the producers involved on it.
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>>50363454
list one above average track
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>>50363338
Computing of Lisa Frank/modern
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>>50363225
It is already a classic. Almost everyone cites it as influence.
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>>50363499

I never did.
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>>50363489
>limit to your love
>my moon man
>mofukkin sea lion
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love it or hate it, this is gonna be a defining pop album for this decade
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>>50363570
Quite possibly.
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>>50363570
jewish rock worship music
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>>50363579
why is MBDTF not a classic?
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>>50363084
i enjoy this album but shh dont tell anyone on /mu/ because i will get flamed and that hurts my pooper
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>>50363579
>stop posting correct answers!
Sorry that your shitty, underground Punk band won't be listened to or cared about by anyone except contrarians
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>>50363421
If jazz is still alive in the future I think we'll remember that album, or The Thing really.

That's why I said jazz classic, it's in another realm
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Probably Taylor Swifts most acclaimed album (whichever one it is)
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>>50363579
b8 or lwg. time for our favorite game.
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>>50363598
lmao all these albums suck, not even close to a classic
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>>50363593
I think this will be quickly forgotten unless she does something completely different in her next album.
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>>50363673
As it has been said all of this thread:

Nobody gives a shit about your so special taste in music.

It literally has no bearing in what makes a modern classic.

I fucking hate Pinkerton, but it is a modern classic. Same with many classic rock records. I can acknowledge they are classics without liking them.

Quit your b8.
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>>50363590
why should it be?
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mfw idiot shit tards think classic = good
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>>50363590
because it's mediocre, but i guess it's ok for its genre
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>>50360756
>>50362482
>>50362580
>>50362608
>>50362987
>>50363084
>>50363392
>>50363570
>>50363593
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>>50363597
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>>50363725
>>50363735
see >>50363729
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>>50363710
>he doesn't like my taste, better criticize him as being pretentious dick with "obscure" taste based on no evidence at all!
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>>50363731
>>50363725
because when calling an album a classic it doesn't only have to do with the actual quality of the work, it's the cultural significance.
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>>50363729
Nigga then post a classic
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>>50363742
Grace for Drowning is more of a 'classic'
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>>50363746
i don't think they're classics; i think they'll be forgotten by the end of this decade.
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>>50363752
Except for the fact you scolded people for posting popularly acclaimed albums.
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>>50363754
what did MBDTF do? get a 10 on p4k? lmao
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>>50363779
It infiltrated popular culture you fool.
Think of how often you heard POWER alone.
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>>50363778
actually he just said they suck. something critically acclaimed can suck.
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>>50363795
>Power
>not Runaway
shit went cray
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>>50360756
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>>50363779
The most famous and hated celebrity on the planet goes into hiding after stealing the moment from America's sweetheart on live TV to make and release one of the most critically acclaimed albums of all time that just so happens to be about how toxic the culture of celebrity is.
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>>50362546
its absolutely not easier to get into. it's so much more noisy and syncopated than nldw. the only reason why it's more popular is because of fandango.. and maybe because it came out before nldw
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>>50363795
once, someone posted a link on /mu/
had to quit bc of that horrible KC sample
>>50363821
ok
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>>50363831
NLDW is shout-ier, more minimal, more tonally dissonant. It's a much less accessible record.
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>>50363850
>basement shut in tries to argue about the cultural significance of an album

top kek
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>>50363850
b8 harder
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>>50363795
so i guess most eminem, jay z, rihanna, etc. albums are classics too then
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>>50363876
see
>>50363821
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>>50363876
>Eminem
Yes: Marshall Mathers LP is a popular classic.
>Jay-Z
Duh. Blueprint.
>Beyonce
Her latest very well might become one.
>Rihanna
eh
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>>50363821
>The most famous celebrity on the planet

you're some special kind of delusional aren't you
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>>50363898
what celebrity has owned more headlines than Kanye over the past 5 years?
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>>50363869
i'm not from your country, dude
not a single kanye track other than love lockdown got any airplay here
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>>50363898
Oh boy!
>I disagree with one, small, irrelevant aspect of their argument. Therefore, they are completely wrong.
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>>50363376
no they weren't
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>>50363803
Ok so why are you more qualified to judge the quality of music than critics that dedicate their lives to music?

I'm not defending critics mind you but I'm honestly curious to hear your answer
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>>50363908
justin bieber, lady gaga, beyonce , rihanna the list goes on and on
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THIS IS NOW A KANYE THREAD

NO FUTURE
NO SOLUTION

SANE PEOPLE LEAVE, SPERGLORDS INSIDE
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>>50363969
You're ignoring that he is the most hated.
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>>50363969
Bieber is the only one that comes close and that's more due to his arrests and shit lately
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>>50362945
Only one ITT
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>>50363987
well idk Bieber might be a contender
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>>50363920
are you generally this retarded in real life?
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>>50364006
Great counterargument!
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>>50360756
Replica and R plus 7 by Oneohtrix Point Never
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>>50363988
>Bieber is the only one that comes close
Are you kidding me? They're all way more famous than him. The proof is all over, just look at the social media statistics
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In 10 years this will be considered a masterpiece.
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>>50364042
toplel
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>>50364049
>implying it isn't already a masterpiece
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>>50363719
>NOT BLOOM
>DON'T CARE
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>>50360756
>>50360791
>>50360796
>>50362438
>>50362482
>>50362608
>>50362864 Annoyingly yes
>>50363515
>>50363818 Most deserving in this thread
Yes


>>50364042
>>50364049
>>50363742
>>50363683
>>50363593
>>50363400
>>50363315
>>50362580 Good but overshadowed by MBTDF

No
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>>50363612
That's my point, though. WHO's gonna remember it? I don't know what it is, and I don't think most others do either.
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>>50363821
>The most famous and hated celebrity on the planet
Holy shit, /mu/ isn't synonymous with real life people, go out more. Lel Kanye fans are some of the most deranged posters on this site
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>>50364140
nah

but i do love that album

only classics because of popularity: JB and 1D.

i think OP should have explained what he meant by classics.
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>>50364067
>>50364120
why not? how does OPNs work not stand the test of time?
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>>50363586
quite opposite than worship, more like a denouncing god throughout the album/questioning him
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>>50364103
wait.. there are people in the universe who think bloom is superior? than teen dream?
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