So I want to get into Math Rock. Where do i begin?
By killing yourself.
>>48716189
lol how funny would it be if someone drank milk there right haha it would truly be hilarious
king crimson
>>48716163
>getting into math rock
>math rock
>2014
The only good bands considered "math rock" are This Town Needs Guns and Hella. Everything else is the most pretentious shitty bullshit
>>48716209
That hotel is the Kaaba of /mu/. All /mu/tants must make a pilgrimage there at leats once in their lifetime.
>>48716245
>TTNG
>good
>>48716163
Shellac
Polvo
Don Caballero
Dianogah
Slit
Bastro
Storm & Stress
>>48716347
>Polvo
captain beefheart
>Don Caballero
>Dianogah
>Slint
king crimson
>Storm & Stress
who cares
>Bastro
>Shellac
not math rock
>>48716163
Off the top of my head:
Battles
Giraffes? Giraffes!
Caddywhompus
Zefs Chasing Cara
American Football (yes, they're math rock; fight me)
Boy's Life (emotive math-y rock, labelmates with Mineral and Christie Front Drive)
>>48716498
Both Bastro (Diablo Guapo) and Shellac (At Action Park) have enough Math Rock in them to be considered as part of the genre and as such serve as a decent "in" to the style without going all out.
Not sure how your listing influences will help OP though.
>>48716498
how is shellac not math rock? they use some uncommon time signatures
>>48716163
TTNG, the list could go on
>>48716498
>Not math rock
>Math rock is just bands that stuff progressive solos into a punk framework and make it shitty
>>48716652
the fact you used diablo guapo as an example proves my point but ok whats songs on that and action park
>>48716656
example
/r/ring the TTNG is my life comic
>>48716667
>>Math rock is just bands that stuff progressive solos into a punk framework and make it shitty
Who are you quoting?
>>48716163
Maybe tryout You Slut! and Daughters? They're pretty approachable, but if that's too much I'd recommend tricot.
>>48716667
>progressive solos
>Bastro
>Shellac
please stick to subjects you have the slightest idea about
>>48716713
He didn't say either band were like that.
>>48716746
ah ok I see he was implying thats what I was implying
Faggots everywhere.
Here OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lNK9kWmUqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5DhKzyDcUQ
>>48716746
>he
>assuming I'm male just because I have a penis
Ugh, I'll be so sick when society advances beyond primates like you
>>48716245
>TTNG
Is this bait?
>>48716684
With Bastro are you saying only they aren't Math Rock or that the entire Louisville scene isn't Math Rock as there's no great gulf between Bastro and others? You can pick elements out of any track on that album to highlight that.
Same stands for At Action Park.
In what ways are these projects not Math Rock?
>>48716824
I asked for examples from those albums and thats all I'm interested in
>>48716799
>Pronouns being important for an anonymous post
>>48716777
This man has the right idea.
OP, listen to Nip Math rock bands. That shit is amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOSw_rzzC_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnolgtt62M
>>48716886
>your identity, your very soul, is just pronouns
You realize that this is how genocide begins right?
>>48716907
christ what a disaster
>>48716777
>>48716903
More NipRock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN3Lk-PEFqA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNcOhePN57A
>>48716875
I'm not going to disrupt listening to an album I have on to fetch up glaringly obvious examples for albums. Song of the Minerals (especially the version without vocals - true of all the instrumental versions) is a track off the top of my head.
I'll throw the Bastro on after this album and get back to you if the thread is still about.
>>48716617
>Caddywhompus
I like them, but wouldn't you consider them noise rock or something like that? Or am I just being retarded?
>>48716922
>Using he instead of they to refer to an unknown is equal to misgendering or denying someone's identity in real life.
I'd have suggested you went with the idea of the default he creating an idea that male is the norm. Would've held more weight.
>>48716992
>>48716922
Fuck off if you're not going to post music. fucking queers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=013Wj1pyN2U
>>48716992
>Thinking I'm trolling just because i'm schooling your brainwashed cis ass
lol
>>48716163
monster machismo is pretty groovy
you can find the full album on youtube but cant post the link bc youtube isnt working for me atm unfort but eh
>>48716939
explain yourself
>>48716163
if you want a real days way to get into it, you gotta ease. I started with Foals first album Antidotes (don't list to anything after, you'll be disappointed) and some captain beef heart to get used to odd time signatures and sounds that sounded, for lack of a being able to think of a better phrase in my exhausted state, out of place.
and then I went to What Burns Never Returns and Hold Your Horse Is
>Those two albums will blow your mind through this world and next)
>>48716950
what about the one with vocals? does math rock not imply complex in at least some way? shellac has always seemed to make minimalism the very point of the entire band.
>>48717024
I've posted music in this thread and am discussing other things.
>>48717032
>Implying I'm cis
Now you've made an assumption equal to that of using "he"
>>48717050
for starters this is the very first I have ever heard drive like jehu and hoover called math rock as both bands have been consistently used as examples of definitive post-hardcore
>>48717082
No, you're polluting this fucking thread with your fucking identity politics. No one gives a fuck. No ones knows who you are and no ones cares. Fuck off to >>>/lgbt/ if you want someone to feel sorry for your miserable fucking life.
Fuck off.
>>48717069
It can imply complexity but it's not the be all and end all of the genre. The dynamics, stop/start nature, timesignatures and style are very much one foot in Math Rock the other in the wider Post-Hardcore scene. The minimalism didn't really become that pronounced until subsequent albums.
I'd say even the tracks with vocals fit as they don't differ too drastically.
As I said though, I'm not propping Shellac up as some key band but rather a decent entry point.
>>48716278
>>48716818
What's wrong with ttng? They're one of the few band to make math rock accessible without taking away interesting technical parts or the weird time signature combinations
>>48717169
boring
>>48717169
>accessible
That's exactly why people on /mu/ will call them bad.
>>48717169
possibly the shittiest vocals/lyrics ever in math rock. they almost made me stop looking into the genre with one fucking album
>It was their s/t
>>48717163
>The dynamics, stop/start nature, timesignatures and style
none of which I'm hearing in song of the minerals. at best I just hear a lot of very lazy discordance.
>>48717183
there are plenty of accessible bands that fucking rock. also /mu/ isn't one person.
>>48717141
>Being in touch with your true self is miserable
You sound like the one who's miserable, and you are the one who is holding society back
>>48717082
You identified yourself as cis the moment you assumed I was male simply because i post on a male dominated sight
>4chan complaining that patriarchy doesn't exist when it is a glaring example of it
Oh the ironing
anywhere it's math rock. gets bland
>>48717141
I didn't suggest anyone knows or cares. I was replying to a trolling comment to wind 'em up.
My life isn't miserable either. I dunno why you're assuming I'm LGBT
Sweep The Leg Johnny is all you'll ever need.
The Bulletproof Tiger's pretty good.
>>48716957
Great to see another Caddywhompus fan. You're not retarded, but they do have quite a few math-y moments in Remainder. Like "Guilt" or "Balloon Knot".
>>48716229
Discipline
>>48717163
>The minimalism didn't really become that pronounced until subsequent albums.
shellac got even more minimalistic after action park? jesus no wonder I stopped following them when terraform came out. they have a new album coming out this year btw probably any week now. its actually been completely mastered for an entire year now. they've been held up on every single other detail except the music.
>>48717218
>wah wah i'm going to cry on an anonymous image board about my identity that no one gives a flying fuck about
>wah wah that'll change the world for sure
You're so fucking delusional.
>>48717141
>>48717223
>>48717218
>>48717082
>>48717032
>>48716992
>>48716922
>>48716886
>>48716799
this thread sucks thanks to you guys
>>48717264
Dude Incredible is the title I think. Heard a few songs off of it live and they were pretty good.
>>48717260
Lark's Tongues In Aspic
>>48717278
I tried bud. There's some sick niprock in this thread though.
>>48717278
2complex4u
>>48717278
>they're the sole reason this abomination of a thread is bad
>>48717230
Gotta second this.
>>48717177
Could you explain what you mean with boring? I think their range of songs is very varied, they have the intense stuff, mid tempo stuff, slow stuff, some with a bit of all, the guitar lines have a distinct sound which couldn't just be by any band, and the way they manage to incorporate the sometimes really awkward combinations of time sig bars is impressive.
Like the intro to a different kind of tall, the main riff goes 5/8, 6/8, 7/8, 6/8 and 3/4 before repeating, but it sounds so organic and unforced.
>>48717198
>listening to math rock because of vocals and lyrics
That shit is secondary when you've got so much else to listen to.
New tact. Were you to make a 10-15 track mixtape for someone who wants an overview of Math Rock what would you include?
>>48717271
>implying I think everything you implied I thought
and you say I'm delusional
>>48717299
awesome as well
>>48717457
A recording of me fucking your momma's pussy
Queens of the Stone Age
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGYRAQB6Xuo
here's some lesser known stuff (i think)
a picture of her - a fanatic socialist looked up to the stars
Clever Girl - No Drum and Bass in the Jazz Room
3nd - World Tour
Pele - The Nudes
Piglet - Lava Land EP
nuito - Unutella
Maps and Atlases - Tree, Swallows, Houses
dinner - and... hearing things
tfvjs - equal unequals to equal
>>48716903
OP Here. I love the second recommendation. But if i wanted to download this, what would i search?
>>48717254
I know what your saying I can especially see that with their track "The others"
>>48717446
Why would you go about listening to music in such a mangled way? Ignoring lyrics and vocals on an album to just listen to the instruments is not the way go about listening to music (unless your studying the music or some shit). if you are going to do that, just listen to Don Cab and hear some fucking great instrumentalist. But listening to a whole album and ignoring the vocals and lyrics? thats's like ripping a painting in two, just ruining the whole piece. An album is a work of art, and if you gotta tear art apart to find the parts you like, go look at a different artist
>>48717457
Dilute - 0
Piglet - Bug Stomp
Three Trapped Tigers - Cramm
Tera Melos - Spoonful of Slurry
Battles - Tonto
Don Caballero - Don Caballero 3
Labradford - Scenic Recovery
Slint - Nosferatu Man
Hella - Headless
Polvo - Thermal Treasure
Enemies - Indian Summer
TTNG - Adventure, Stamina & Anger
Invalids - Sherman Is Connector
Planets - Vow of Silence
>>48717519
you're kidding right?
>right?
>>48717599
Definitely, man. You excited for their new release?
I was talking to Greg over at Community records and he said it'd be dropping on vinyl in a two or three months.
>>48717683
>ignoring
You my friend must learn to read, I said their secondary, they complement the song, they don't lead it. Don Cab are great, TTNG too.
>>48716163
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o3_iq_ZcZs
here is an easy start OP
ctrl+f yowie not found
/mu is such a disgusting board
>>48717703
absolutely not. that song has all the hallmarks of math rock
>>48717716
you're right I jumped to a conclusion about what you meant, apologies. Idk what it is man, but that singer just ruins that band for me. if they told him to shut up and play while they found a new singer, I'd be up for giving them another chance
Check out Tera Melos, they used to be pretty fucking crazy but they've calmed down and started making legitimately catchy and interesting music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyASnd3vCHg
Caddywhompus is a band I've been pimping for a long time. They're great and put on a hell of a show. Here's one of their earlier tracks, since I can't find anything else on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiigW3o-AX0
Yowie are complex as fuck, probably disorienting on first listen but they have some interesting ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyHrjoip39M
Mylets is basically Tera Melos' little cousin. It's also a one man band. From what I can tell the kid's a little shit but he makes some good music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jT8j88vso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpwJ43GLq7w
>>48717746
I meant the band, not the song.
You could just listen to classical OP. Some of those guys were awesome at counterpoint and others of them disregarded the usual rules of harmony.
is it right that nobody is listening to Giraffes? Giraffes! on /mu/ beside me? fix that
>>48717783
You said you listened to the s/t? They got a new singer for their last album 13.0.0.0.0, he's a lot more conventional in his approach than the original singer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT-fjYFqPOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA8EwUf9_cg
>>48717810
well even the most definitive math rock bands have songs that arent math rock
>>48717849
Not true. They were semi-popular a while back.
They're certainly more "wanky" than other /mu/-popular math rock though so that probably didn't help their case. Favourite album? I've only heard Pink Magick.
>>48717872
but they are still math rock bands. one out of the ordinary song doesn't make the band
>>48717849
They kinda suck.
Wank for the sake of wankiness, if you want wank done right just listen to Tera Melos
>>48717869
this is a lot more bearable, i think i need to give them another chance. Cause i do love their musicianship, but their old singer just distracted the hell out of me.
>>48717912
they have lots of songs like that
>>48718004
I can highly recommend 13.0.0.0.0 then, I admit it's not flawless, they tried to throw in some low key, idm-ish inspired parts to some songs in the middle which I don't think worked out, but it was an enjoyable listen overall.
>>48717950
tera melos is boring after beeing catchy >>48717902
the self titled thing is my favourite thing of them
>>48718013
And REM wrote a bunch of country songs. that doesn't make them a country band. Not only that but that song, while clearly showing math com elements, is more closely related to post-hardcore which can be very close to math rock (Shellac). But this is not even that. It is an alternative Rock/Stoner Rock/ Psych rock band. They will pull influences form many places because they are smart and talented musicians. But that band is nowhere near a math rock band. OP is trying to learn math rock bands, not artists who happen to do a math rock song. I've heard basement punk bands play math rock songs, but they sure as shit don't represent the genre. And neither do Queens of the stone age. They are not a good artist for OP to turn to if he wants to get into math rock. If you disagree with me, then you are probably listen to post-avant-afro-jazz-funk-step and are easily swayed when naming/learning genres
>>48718058
cooleo man, i'll shall check it out
Why does every math rock band insist on hiding their boring songs behind "wacky" song titles?
>>48718076
I'll give it a listen.
>>48718201
>Details on how to get ICEMAN on your license plate
>boring
>>48717710
To be honest Im not a huge fan of theirs. Well I mean I like their music but I only heard a few of their tracks from their previous albums but I really like The Weight album. I didn't know their coming out with something new, Ill for sure check it out!
>>48717046
Woo. Me Blindfolded vs. Mike Tyson is one of my favorite songs.
>>48716685
seconded
>>48718158
trolled
maps and atlases - trees swallows houses
my fav
>>48716777
Shit, anyone got a DL link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Vckk54Abw
>>48716274
but I hate nmh
>>48716163
65days o static or whatnot
All things said, only two good math rock albums are Animals by TTNG and American Football s/t.
>>48716685
>>48718408
>>48720925
>>48716907
listen to this chart instead
>>48716907
>hoover
>math rock
oh god this is awful.
>>48716245
someone post the "nigga you mad as hell" pic lmao
>>48721244
>"Battled"
>>48721914
thanks haaha should've read thread
>>48718201
Need to make your songs stand out son
>>48721244
>dartz!
>fang island
>asiwyfa
>foals
>snowing
>look mexico
>minus the bear
>algernon cadwallader
>math
That chart is even worse, couldn't even spell "Battles", "Bear"
>>48716712
>Daughters
>approachable
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE daughters, but this statement is so far off. Even i couldn't initially get into them.
Op. listen to Fall Of Troy - 10/10
>>48726759
Oh, I totally forgot my fav album: Antidotes by Foals.
It's probably the best thing I've ever heard relative to what I am looking for in music.
>>48716163
Sajjanu - Californication II and Sajjanu - Pechiku!!
If you want to listen to the mathiest math rock, check out these
Rich Woodson's Ellipsis - Control and Resistance
Sajjanu - Pechiku!!
Yowie - Cryptooology
And these too, but not as much as the ones above
You Slut! - Sajjanu
The Bulletproof Tiger - You Wanna Kiss About It?
It's recommendable to listen to Trout Mask Replica first
>>48726843
First time I listened to Californication II it was great, the next listens were a little bit boring though. It had a lot of potential.
/mu/ doesn't know what math rock is
Go to /r/mathrock
>go into math rock thread because it's one of the few threads up that looks like it would be genuinely interesting
>mostly just a bunch of autistic faggots shitposting and arguing with hardly any recs
I mean I've been on /mu/ for about two years now so I don't know what else I really should have been expecting but goddamn it I hate this place so much.
>>48727380
What's you're favorite math rock album? Mine is Astero by 37500 Yens
>>48727223
why did you post this shit lmao
>>48727402
Probably either "You Wanna Kiss About It" by The Bulletproof Tiger or "Eunioa" by Invalids. Haven't listened to album you posted.
>>48727223
I just went and checked and it's literally the same as here.
>>48727380
>Hardly any recs
Plenty of decent beginner recs, which was what OP was looking for.
>>48727462
>literally the same as here
n-no?
>>48727380
I'm a really big fan of Don Cabellaro. It may be "babby's first math rock" but I don't care. What a sick band.
>>48727511
Just because something is "babby's first" doesn't mean it's bad
>>48727462
Yeah I guess, but shitposting makes up about 2/3s of this thread, which is my main problem. I was surprised to see a math rock thread with over 100 replies since most get to about 20 or 30 and then just die off, then I opened the thread and understood why.
>>48727511
I've never really been able to get into Don Cab, just never really did anything for me. I should probably give their albums another listen though.
>>48720925
>>48721041
beat me to it. still fucking hilarious though,
Is Tera Melos considered Math? if so, their last two albums have been pretty accessible and might be a good way to ease into the genre.
bloc party
Hello Everyone by Midori. Good Japanese math/jazz fusion.
lite - filmlets
lite - phantasia
toe - The Book About My Idle Plot on a Vague Anxiety
this town needs guns - animals
other than that are just tryhard wankery shit
>>48730354
>other than that are just tryhard wankery shit
you have bad taste objectively
>>48716163
why
>>48716245
>TTNG
>hella
I bet you only listened to hyhi and animals now you really know a lot about math rock.
