ITT: Rock albums from 2009 onward that are actually creative, unique, and are not more revivalism. Proof to me that there are rock is not dead at a creative level.
I don't have any examples, so pic related
>>48573848
*pic unrelated
Listen to Buke and Gass. They're pretty creative.
The King of Limbs and The Seer from the top of my head.
Do you mean 'rock' rock, or rock in general including it's subgenres?
Why 2009 specifically, OP? Was 2009 a shit time for rock or...?
How do you define "rock", op? Does it have to be drums, guitars, and bass or can it be more lushly orchestrated?
For the latter, I'm putting in Have One On Me by Joanna Newsom.
For the former, I don't know. Mainstream rock music (that is, without additions or more varied instrumentation/conceptual framework) hasn't been "new" for a while for me.
>>48574189
*2008
typo hehe
>>48574200
Joanna Newsom is folk bra
What's with the arbitary choice of 2008?
There's been a lot of creativity in meal lately but that's mostly where the creativity is in rock lately. There's still great creative artists out there in other subgenres but the highest concentration of creativity probably has to be in metal for some retarded reason.
>pic related, probably the most creative and unique rock album of the decade so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsSvEAqiSTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyv7fjaRMT8
>>48574237
She's 'Indie' Folk Rock. She's essentialy Rock music, that is influenced by Folk music.
Ever heard this album?
>>48574189
>>48574218
>>48574381
2009 was five years ago, I guess
And either two people made the same mistake or you samefagged
SUN
BAT
HER
>>48575245
TOP
KEK
>>48575269
Honestly, as much as I hate the album, it is kinda influential and groundbreaking. Taking black metal and making it accessible is something that has never been done before, and they nailed it.
I would personally give the credit to either Alcest or Liturgy though
>>48575034
lol this was the most genric piece of shit I ever heard
>>48575310
you aren't seriously implying that sunbather is a black metal album, are you?
It's hard to label, don't know if I would call it rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftvICVWLBKY
>>48575034
I wouldn't call this creative or unique but it is a good record.
>>48575310
>Taking black metal and making it accessible is something that has never been done before
QOTSA's last album was fuckin' great. The Monitor by Titus Andronicus is beautiful. Let's see, if you have a looser view that could incorporate acoustic music, then Fleet Foxes' Helplessness Blues was my 2011 AOTY. Transcendental Youth by the Mountain Goats. Cloud Nothings' last two albums. Just off the top of my head. Search and you'll find good music in any genre.
>>48575269
>>48575310
Why do people hate Sunbather? It's a fucking great, emotional, original album.
>>48575335
Still it is not as generic as every other Alternative rock band at the moment.
>>48573904
pretty much the only creative rock band out there right now.
rock is essentially dead, but that's not really a bad thing considering theres loads of creative music being made in other genres.
>>48573848
Someone has to say it.
>>48575358
No I'm not. I'm saying it's taken black metal and made it accessible. In order to do that you need to take a whole lot of the black metal out
>>48575630
If taking a whole lot of the black metal out to make it accessible it's been done a lot earlier than that. Alcest would be an example.
Papadosio
To end the illusion of separation
It's wonderful
>>48575310
>taking black metal and making it accessible
>what is Cradle of Filth
>what is Dimmu Borgir
>>48576635
As someone who doesn't listen to black metal I can't listen to either of those bands but I genuinely like Sunbather.
>>48574142
Lel and lel
OP, try Brave Little Abacus
best guitar music of the decade so far.
>>48574478
Its stylistically folk
What year is Deathconsciousness from? If it's from 2009+ then that one
The logical conclusion to rock music imo.
Also Math Rock and Noise Rock are thriving, I think everything that can be done with standard rock has already been done.
Does post-post-punk exist
>>48577401
what the fuck is guitar music you drone retard
>>48577840
music with guitars in it.
as opposed to music without.
http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=2010s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=experimental+rock&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=
not all of them obviously
>>48575395
I think maybe I just think it was creative because at the time I was listening to QotSA loads when it came out and it's not much like their old stuff, but I guess in retrospect it is pretty standard. Idgaf I love it though.
>>48573848
Sun
Bat
Her
>>48573848
What kind of subculture is that image meant to portray exactly?
>>48575555
This. Eula is fucking amazing, I just wish they would have cut the double album shit and made it a lot more concise. Unpopular opinion but I love their progression, can't wait to see what they do next
>>48575569
>reflektor
top kek
>>48573848
Rock has never been creative or unique, Anon.
>>48577401
muh nigga
>>48578112
>in your opinion
What do you deem creative and/or unique anon?
>>48573848
Lonerism
>>48578138
Art music
>>48578151
>in your opinion
This isn't subjective, dear.
Not creative or unique in the slightest.
Fucked Up! - David Comes To Life
there's storytelling, and then there's meta-storytelling, and then there's this.
>>48578151
Definitely not. It's not a bad album, but don't pretend like it revolutionized anything.
Does Animal Collective count as a rock band
>>48578092
/fa/ users who idolise designers like Rick Owens
>>48578176
music = art
rock = music
rock = art
>>48578103
too bad everything after the red album isn't very good
>>48578280
Hit or miss but when they hit they hit hard. Like I said, unpopular opinion.
Blue Record is my favorite oh well
>>48578092
Gothninja
>>48578176
In your opinion.
If you could point me to an album(s) that sound EXACTLY like Lonerism, I'd be a very happy man.
>>48578186
Sorry, where in my post did I say Lonerism revolutionised rock? I seem to have missed that part. Because I didn't fucking say that, or imply it.
>>48577116
LMAO
this
>>48578278
Are you stupid?
Red = a color
Blue = a color
Red = blue
>>48578330
>In your opinion.
No sweetie, this isn't subjective.
Do you mean just rock, or are you going to include subgenres as well? What about subgenres that became genres as more and more people started experimenting with that sibgenre?
At the top of my head:
Seven Idiots by World's End Girlfriend (2010)
Pechiku!! by Sajjanu (2011)
>>48578391
Exactly. Now you're getting it! So stop saying its completely uncreative and completely not unique, and provide me some albums which sound exactly the same, honey.
Oh wait, you can't.
>>48578449
>Oh wait, you can't.
Because no two things can be exactly alike
Are you really this stupid?
>>48578391
>not being colorblind
We're just going to have to agree to disagree. Music is subjective. The way I like at music is different to the way you look at music is different to the way your favorite artist looks at music etc etc. Just keep living in your sterile little boxed in mindset of the world it's okay.
>>48578477
Seriously.
For something to be exactly like something else, it must be a perfect copy created the moment the original came into existence, and it must always be in the same location as the original.
Otherwise there are differences on the atomic and quantum scale.
>>48578477
Aw dont be like that baby, you're the one that proposed it after all! By saying its not creative or unique in the slightest, that implies pretty heavily that you think it is both technically and sonically the same as all other generic rock albums. Which is why I'm kindly asking for some examples, in case you didnt realise, to prove that you're not talking out of your patronizing ass. Or, you can admit that its just your opinion. Take your pick, hun.
>>48578107
rekektor
>>48578520
Red can't be confused for blue, they're on different sides of the spectrum.
>Music is subjective
No, it isn't.
Why do Marxists perpetuate this bullshit?
>>48578561
It sounds like a modern rehash of Sgt Pepper's, with less variety.
Why are you trolling?
>>48578608
Why isn't music subjective?
>>48578608
Red can be mistaken for blue if you are colorblind.
>>48578608
>be 100% blind from birth
>can distinguish between red and blue
Why do objectivists perpetuate this bullshit?
The idea that something has to be innovative to still be creative is just garbage. With seven billion people living and who knows how many dead it's kind of guaranteed that we're going to reach a point where not much is truly new, but that doesn't mean that a retelling of familiar ideas can't be creative.
>>48578632
Music is objective because it has measurable elements like rhythm, notes, intervals, chords, etc.
>>48577895
this thread isn't about music with guitars in it
it's about rock
>>48578642
No, those who are color blind can't see a specific part of the spectrum.
>>48578675
Blind != color blind.
>Why do objectivists perpetuate this bullshit?
I'm not a libertarian neckbeard.
>>48578690
Something has to be innovative to be creative
Go back to your rawk.
>>48578608
It hardly sounds like Sgt Pepper's at all, aside from that they're both rock. I love both albums, and I'm not going to argue that the Beatles suck, but Lonerism is far more creative. Both albums set out in completely different directions, aside from the summery and colourful themes.
>i-it sounds like a modern rehash!
Run out of arguments, have we?
>why are you trolling?
Yeah, we're done here. If you have to pull the 'trolling / baiting' card when you have no true counter argument, you're done. Stop being such a condescending brat.
Also, music is subjective. Just because you think it isn't, doesn't make it so, unfortunately.
>>48578704
Okay so what makes beat one better than beat two?
What makes melody one better than melody two?
what makes chord one better than chord two?
>personal preference
Maybe i'll have some fucking mind blowing epiphany by the end of this discussion but I always thought people preferred band A to band B due to personal preference. Just as someone would prefer band B due to personal preference.
>>48578746
>I'm not a libertarian neckbeard
Then you should stop coming across as one
>>48578746
I'm partially colorblind, and that's not entirely true. Colorblind people have trouble distinguishing certain colors from each other. Like green and red, or blue and yellow, for example.
>>48578746
>your rawk.
>implying
It doesn't have to be new, just new to you. gb2yr closed mindedness
>>48578795
I'm not saying what makes something better than something else, just that music is objective because it can be measured. To know if something is better you should probably some statistics about what is enjoyed the most.
And while it can be personal preference, it's possible to make a consensus about what is better.
For example, I think we can agree that The Beatles are better than Brokencyde, but only if we discuss first what makes something better than other.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>48578783
Yup, you're a troll.
>>48578828
They don't confuse entirely different colors though.
I'm talking about primary colors, not combinations.
>>48578795
>Then you should stop coming across as one
>WAAAAAH YOU AREN'T AN IRRATIONAL BRAT LIKE ME
>>48578853
I listen to more challenging music than you though.
typical librul
>>48578930
>no counter point whatsoever
>better call him a troll!
Like I said, we're done here. Get fucked, you ignorant baby.
>>48578930
What about people with Monochromasy?
>>48578893
But who gives a shit about what everyone else likes? I do agree the social aspect of music is important (hence why rock music is so popular), but I listen to music for the personal, introspective side. If what you're saying is true that top 40 artists objectively make the best music. That is entirely dependent on the scope of the statistics sure, but there's always going to be sour lemons to ruin it for everyone, there's never going to be a sure-fire way to guarantee a true consensus.
>>48578930
You're entertaining. I like you. You're batshit retarded but you're funny.
>WAAAAAH YOU AREN'T AN IRRATIONAL BRAT LIKE ME
when you use that as a response, who sounds like the irrational brat?
>>48578930
>music as a challenge
lol it's fucking entertainment no matter how you look at it, it's a way to kill time
>>48578974
bait harder
>>48579009
Not what I was talking about
>>48579030
>You're batshit retarded but you're funny.
Except I'm far more intelligent than you.
97% average on my diploma finals, which is our equivalent of SAT exams.
>>48579062
Typical pop fan.
When you grow up and develop a genuine interest in something other than video games and masturbation, you will understand what I mean.
>>48579030
I do, and many others too it seems. That's why we are discussing.
And no, the Top 40 thing isn't really true, because it's based on popularity. But still, let's suppose everybody listened to all kinds of music, and on average the most liked genre is Top 40s Pop, then we could say that music is better, statistically speaking.
Obviously there will always be unsatisfied people, but at least we can agree that music taste isn't completely subjective.
What do you think?
>>48574237
Not at all.
>>48578930
>I listen to more challenging music than you though.
>typical librul
Why would you give yourself away this easily? If you're going to try and make people angry you need to at least make it not seem like that's your goal. 0/10
>>48578518
hell literally everything OM has ever done
especially paralytic stalks
>>48579122
No, you couldn't say it's "better" statistically speaking. You could say it's more popular.
You are personally assigning popularity to the definition of "better" when better doesn't have an objective meaning, it refers to subjective tastes
>>48579121
except you can't prove that internet stranger and it's of no consequence anyways. I do have a genuine passion for music but I can't prove that as I'm an internet stranger and it's of no consequence anyways. It's also terribly obvious how much more you masturbate than I do, giving the nature of your posts. Your ego is hilarious.
>>48579122
My biggest point is that music is completely subjective. There is no such thing as a 10/10 album imo.
Say we put 50 Beatles fans and 50 Brokencyde fans in a room and ask them which they prefer. Suppose there's a few in that room (scenecore tumblr girls most likely) that are fans of both bands. Suppose one or two of those that prefer both bands prefer Brokencyde over Beatles. That would tip the scales in Brokencyde's favor, thus rendering Brokencyde objectively better.
Of course there's the matter that there are WAY more Beatles fans on earth at this moment, but that's a victim of circumstance. Beatles have been around longer and have seen more generations. Who knows, maybe Brokencyde will take the world by storm in the next 10 years ala Pantera going out of their glam phase.
It's all theoretical but that's how I see it. Thanks for being pleasant :)
>>48579222
dank meme
>>48579294
>I do have a genuine passion for music
No, you don't.
You like generic bullshit over a dank beat
>>48579274
Read more carefully, I said if everybody listened to all kinds of music. So that popularity isn't an issue. We probably won't know the answer to that question, but it can be used in another context, like defining what is the best part of a song (the chorus, most of the time).
What do you think?
>>48579397
>"But still, let's suppose everybody listened to all kinds of music, and on average the most liked genre is Top 40s Pop"
If "most liked" doesn't mean "most popular" than what does it mean?
>>48579396
Yes I do. Under what authority can you say that, internet stranger?
:^)
>>48579294
Like I said, if everybody listened to all kinds of music. Also, the statistic should be made without knowing who is a fan of each band.
I probably have to go now, so I can't reply now, but well, see you the next time!
>>48578930
>"typical librul"
This is one guy trolling several threads with these sub-/b/ tier aspie replies. Christ, /mu/ stop taking the bait.
Kasabian - 48:13
>>48577784
You could probably argue that HANL sort of is but that'd be a dumb way to describe that sound
>>48579497
>if
That's just not the case. Like I said, there's no such thing as a totally sterile environment when it comes the these kinds of things. Like fedora friend here that listens to IDM or whatever may or may not have ever heard a math rock song he enjoyed, his opinion should be invalidated on the genre upon further interest in said genre is reached.
g'day
>>48579523
lol I'm enjoying his responses. The dank beat part was disappointing but whatever. I was hoping for legit discussion and I got a little bit so I'm happy.
Oh god this thread
My head
The OP was already a trolling cocksucker and then it got WORSE
Arctic Monkeys - Humbug
>>48579433
20 years as a musician.
You lack the capability to appreciate anything that isn't about fucking.
>>48579523
Dank meme
>>48579647
See now you're just repeating yourself. Get a little creative, come on. I thought you were an "artist".
>>48578372
THIS
Miles Kane - Colour of the Trap
![3111968[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nm6l9tx.jpg "3111968[1].jpg")
Embarrassing thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqOWopNNBYA
>>48578055
This
>>48578092
Gothninjas, young males who obsess over designer fashion and neogothic imagery and aesthetics and frequent the /fa/ board
>tfw I'm one of them
>>48578297
Love the Blue Record, Y&G is my least favorite but if that doesn't make it bad. It's just a little more bloated
>>48579671
I thought you liked repetition?
>>48579628
>>48579553
>>48578055
>>48577401
>>48575034
Are you people even trying?
Regardless of the quality of these records, how are they in any way groundbreaking? Do you just not know the history of rock music at all?
>>48575569
Lol, you've gotta be fucking kidding me. More sappy, melodramatic hisitronic whole foods-core but with added "dance-rock" flavor. That mid-2000s trend when indie bands added "dance beats" to there music was never danceable or fun, and the trend has been dead for 8 years. Arcade Fire are incredibly late to the game on that one. Why do indeh musicians think they are "improving" different genres of music by appropriating them, stripping them of what makes them unique without making any effort to understand the style of music from the people who've dedicated their life to it, and then making them into a new flavor of indeh?
0/10 one of the worst rock records of all time, not over-exageriting
>>48575351
yes
also
Xibalba
Won James Won
few other bands
>>48574142
>The King of Limbs
yea it had it's own sound
>The Seer
kitchen sink "epic" post-rock has been played out for 10 years tho
>>48579817
That's some authority there, you thought wrong my friend.
*tips fedora
>>48579908
dank meme
rock on!!!!!1
>>48580024
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT PICTURE
I THOUGHT I TOOK THAT OFF MY FACEBOOK MONTHS AGO
>>48578372
Yo this is sick!!! I could stare at that album cover all day too.
>>48579834
Oh, 'groundbreaking'. I didn't read the thread properly. Apologies. If you're looking for a groundbreaking rock record; look no further than this...
The Stone Roses
>>48574424
Are...a-are those dead babies in the cart?
>>48574533
I don't like tripfags.
I will listen to this.
Your dubs are good.
Ariel Pink
ISMFOF
Swag Ninja
Like Clockwork
Birthday Bash And The Teenage Milk Maid
Best Coast
>>48573848
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ox__xk3uho
you're welcome
>>48579431
>>48579584
Are you guys still there?
What about Gloss Drop?
>>48579773
fit is wack
>>48582843
Doesn't really convince me, but maybe.
Also, just realized that Gloss Drop is very similar to New Slaves by Zs, with the difference that Zs is noisier and the tracks are longer.
>>48580127
It's supposed to be a groundbreaking album from the last 5 years, make some effort to read the fucking thread you melon.
>>48582890
ahk ill give that a listen.
I mean it's an ok fit, just a little boring. The sneakersare pretty bad. Contrasting white midsoles usually look like shit especially if the materials aren't really high quality.
the tee is nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhF4Vm7nkCg
Takes what has been done before and catapults it onto some hook-filled platter.
I don't think I've heard something so carefully, densefully created.
The Strokes - Is This It
it basically redefined modern rock and ushered in a whole new era of what we know today
>>48573848
>muh post rock
>muh metal
>muh indie
>muh grunge
>muh [insert random word]core
>muh nignog screaming like an ape on the mic
Creative and unique? Maybe. Good? absolutely the hell they aren't.
>>48583084
Holy shit, that was absolutely shit. 80's rock is better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgY7qYaoMWQ
>>48583232
nigga if u wanna talk about good rock music from the 80s why not bring up amebix, infest, or big black
shit that's actually good
>>48583287
>amebix
I've listened to them, sounds like borderline metal or some shit. I hate metal, it's for nerds and gorefest faggots.
>>48583350
Amebix where a big influence on Bathory, yes.
>>48577116
>Brave Little Abacus
>creative, unique, and not more revivalism
>not more revivalism
>>48583232
Kill yourself. Now.
>>48580127
HELLO I AM ANONYMOUS POSTER AND WILL PROCEED TO READ THE FIRST FOUR WORDS OF A THREAD AND THEN POST IN IT BLINDLY
>>48583402
>not liking pop-prog
Y-you too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlbdaxJEv6U
>>48583532
I dunno about that anon, but I love me some pop-prog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW89naBZxJE
