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should I get a microkorg XL+ as my first synthesizer?
>>48229700
What should I get then?
thoughts on Ozone?
>>48229845
bump fo that
>> pic unrelated
>>48229883
you should send me a copy of yours
>>48229883
it has some nice harmonic exciters, but it's limiter sounds like shit
>>48229086
Why bleep?
>>48231220
yeah same
>>48229086
Anyone know how to get a sound similar to this?
I've been mucking around with LFOs for a couple of hours and can't get anything close to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ATu1BiOPZA#t=100
how are toms generally pitched? trying to make a footwork track and my tomlines are sounding too melodic atm
i'm gonna sound like a total douchebag follower but i'm an absolute beginner at producing music, what are some good free ableton 9 live tutorials? all of them i watched stop after the third video saying you have to pay for more videos.
What is a good premade "classic" synths sounds pack or something? Please help, I'm not good at making sounds myself
>>48231959
vengeance essential hoovers volume 2
>>48232046
kek
>>48231959
Just make a buncha small and simple sounds and layer them, boom, you got a nice synth
>>48229845
get a microbrute.
Should I get a Sub Phatty, Slim Phatty or an MS-20 as my first synth? Or something else?
Slim Phatty is such a good price atm
How do I get a lo-fi overall sound like in SAW 85-92, I guess that record is very reverby and what else?
>>48232507
Slim has some serious issues that may or may not affect you. Throw any kind of complex midi at it and it'll lock up. It takes WAY too long to heat up and get pitch stable, almost 40 mins for my old one. Between those three I'd probably get the sub, simply because it's less 'out there' than the MS20.
>>48232564
Wow, i hadn't heard of that. Thanks, I'll steer clear of it then. The sub oscillator on the sub phatty is pretty appealing anyways
>>48232595
For the money, the original Pulse is a much better deal, imo. It's got a layout closer to the minimoog (3xosc), and noise, which was a glaring omission on the slim. They're also hilarious cheap at the moment, if you see one scoop it up.
If you've got the cash the sub is a good first synth though, well laid out and no surprises.
>>48232507
When you buy any Moog, you are paying more for less. Don't get me wrong: it will sound great, but it's definitely a more premium brand. You will be able to learn the most about subtractive synthesis and make the most sounds with the MS20.
Here's a question: If you heard a track you thought was fantastic and you later found out it was made in FL, would you feel differently about it?
>>48233775
No, because I work in FL and I'm a professional.
>>48233779
>professional
Young Chop pls
>>48233794
I do mostly jazz and orchestral work to be honest.
hey bleepers, which all-purpose controller for ableton would you recommend? apc? ableton push? pads would be cool but if theres a great controller without pads, I could also buy an additional pad controller. looking to be able to control session view and to speed up workflow and for live play. im not sure if ableton push is the right thing, as the idea behind it seems to be to provide an alternative approach to start new tracks
Where do you guys get your drum samples from?
>inb4 Vengeance
>>48231538
Doesn't sound like anything with an LFO, sounds like several square waves stacked together and detuned
>>48233882
I just download random kontakt libraries that look cool. fuck working with wav
>>48233882
Drums, machinedrum, modular.
Make your own samples, it'll teach your more about how sounds work and work together than any how-to guide or pirated library could.
>>48233882
808/909 kits or I make them myself.
Also some of the kits up for download on Attack Magazine have some nice hits
>>48233882
http://www.goldbaby.co.nz/
is pretty nice for drum machine sounds, looking for a source for some real drums too tho
>>48233775
I wouldn't care but it would definitely affect the way I think of them subconsciously. Then again I use REAPER which is like the Gentoo of DAWs
>>48233923
Renoise would be the Gentoo of DAWs imo
>>48233882
https://mega.co.nz/#F!fpQU1AgB!LTd7xXldeRJrsLvwUi-KIQ
https://mega.co.nz/#F!OxpC0CbD!DnEcG2E6MT1HZT0gfFd-Bw
Here's some stems from Rock Band, you can find some pretty good stuff in here. I've used the Smells Like Teen Spirit one and the Once In A Lifetime one so far, and they've worked like a charm.
Only thing is, you can get some really bad bleed from other tracks, depending on the producer. All early Weezer track suffer from this.
For my bleepbros
http://www.mediafire.com/view/8yq1y42nvrsc1ul/Analog_Synthesizers_-_Understanding,_Performing,_Buying_by_Mark_Jenkins.pdf
>>48233927
Oh yeah you may be right, I haven't tried that one yet
>>48233951
why do so many analogue synths gotta be so expensive?
>>48233854
halp
>>48233955
I mean, REAPER is pretty straight-forward, the UI just isn't very user friendly. I would say that Reason is more difficult to work with, what with all the patching and stuff. Provided you don't have a hardware background that is though.
Hey /mu/
I'm a rapper, but I don't produce my own beats and I feel its time to start. I can pickup a AKAI MPD 18 Beat Pad for $65. Thinking I could just map some of my older tracks and use it on stage, also make beats of my own.
Is this a good investment?
>>48233980
because they're real, yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn4D79Jgn_4
But yeah, not all of them. Ordered mine yesterday, mostly for the filter.
>>48233995
The main thing I found hard about REAPER was trying to learn all the keyboard shortcuts, it's impossible to work if you don't know them
>>48233882
i rip them from youtube videos :^)
>>48233980
This is true for most musical instruments really. Although the Korg Volca range is priced pretty darn well and fully analog. Also the MicroBrute of course. However, you can get plenty of sweet gear secondhand for not too much money, you just need look around.
>>48234029
Oh completely forgot the Waldorf Rocket
>>48234041
The Rocket is digital/analog hybrid.
>>48234064
Fuck, you're right. My bad. Digital oscillators but analog VCF
>>48233980
Vintage analog is expensive because there's finite supply and growing demand. Most of them aren't that great, honest. Don't overpay for a simple DCO synth just because it's old.
The amount of new analog coming out these days is awesome. Something like a minitaur or microbrute adds a lot to an otherwise digital, or laptop, set up. They're cheap!
>>48233951
pffhahahahahaha, never thought I'd see this loser in these threads
>>48233854
please
anyone know if any software emulates casio synths decently at all?
i dont mean the drum sounds but those synths
>>48234288
Well what do you want?
Do you want to trigger samples?
Or do you want an alternative synth controller?
If you're just thinking you need pads because you see people use them, you don't have the right reason in needing them.
>>48234294
Phadiz is a free VST that uses Casio-style Phase Distortion
Try dat
>>48232380
dis nigga right here. Also, PoiZone in FL isn't a bad place to start with sound design:
>quick example I threw together
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0TLUbq1O6xR
>>48233775
Fuck no. I use FL every day and it's perfectly fine.
>>48234389
thanks sir!
>>48234487
NP.
BTW used Casio synths should still be cheap nowadays
>>48234503
i figure recording from the hardware would work too but i record all my music on my phone and then just do everything digitally
so i dont have any equipment really and wouldnt know what to do with it if i did
i really like this song i just discovered that uses them if you wanna hear it. i love the casio sound
http://falks.bandcamp.com/track/poor-boy
Do you guys have any tips for humanizing midi patterns?
I have a small guitar part in a song I'm currently working on, done with RealStrat and Amplitube
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0IBYMet4AkQ
>>48234642
get a real guitar player to play it up for you
>>48234850
Playing guitar is for plebs and I'd rather not have plebs on my songs.
>>48234642
>synth guitar
You're about to learn a really tough lesson about digital music. Unless your name is Javi Perera, you're not going to get very good results.
>>48234642
Generally speaking, it's just "downbeats slightly higher velocity than upbeats", but you should be prepared for hours of tweaking before it sounds halfway decent.
Humanizing guitar stuff is fucking horrendous.
>>48234892
Not that guy, but I've managed to model acoustic guitar quite nicely on my Q, although I'm not sure whats going on since I have to pitchbend the fuck out of it to get the right sound.
>>48234850
>>48234892
>Implying shitty midi e. guitars aren't the shit these days
>>48234973
>>48235000
that's cause all guitarists are sloppy fucks
>>48235042
ur mums a sloppy fuck
I want to make some bleep bloops, what do I dl?
Recommended stuff I mean, I know I need a daw altough I'm not sure which one, sum instruments, sum soundbanks.
yeah, tell me what should I be grabbing being a noobster
>>48235219
FL Studio bruh
No, seriously. It's the most beginner-friendly DAW out there
>>48234878
badly emulating plebs is even worse
What's a good VST for synthesizing brass and wind instuments?
>>48233775
Only retards hate on Fl so I would feel the same as I always feel towards retarded people.
>>48236073
I like Miroslav Philharmonik
https://soundcloud.com/ryunocore/80-hit-me/s-s7zZt
please bring back boom bap
>>48236385
thats... not boom bap
>>48234642
h-h-here I go
https://soundcloud.com/kuci06/when-i-grow-up-i-want-to-be-a-canadian-jew-hipster-neckbeard
>>48235477
Seconded. Getting shit done is what's up.
>>48236657
it also has tons of tutorials online
>>48236073
Kontakt
>>48229845
use vsts until you can decide for yourself
was thinking of getting komplete 9 AU since i work in logic. Is it worth the money?
>>48236944
nooooo
>>48236971
what other options do i have to get ~120gb of instruments of that quality? I want so much shit I dunno what to do with it
>>48233779
Lol
>>48234006
Id spend a few more $$$ and get something with mappable faders/knobs.
>>48233794
Young Chop isn't bad
>>48234006
Get a MPKmini instead.
>>48237222
>MPKmini
+1
>>48236944
yes but you just missed their yearly sale sooooo, ya fucked up.
>>48237545
thats just perfect
>>48237545
Are you black?
>>48237890
If you're looking for a new toy to play with, pick one of them now and just get the upgrade on sale next year. FM8 or Reaktor are deep enough to keep you busy for years by themselves.
Looks like Sweetwater still has it for $399, which really, is still worth it.
>>48238008
Just checked, they're getting $199 and $399 for FM8 and reaktor these days anyway. Just get komplete.
I have one simple question for you:
Why not just pirate every software synth?
Honest question.
>>48238058
I'd rather waste physical space instead of disk space (more space for objects)
>>48238099
projects, not objects
>>48238099
I mean instead of buying all these synths (like $500 for a Kontakt library), why not just pirate them?
>>48238058
Limitations are neat actually and you can't pirate _every_ software synth as not all of them are pirateable
>>48238145
Yeah, why paying professional VST makers at all to ensure they deliver quality products???!?!?!?!
(500 $ is definitely a bit overpriced though)
>>48238099
>>48238175
well, do you buy every music you listen to?
they deserve to be paid just like everyone, right?
>>48238203
Well.. like 60 % of my library is actually paid for. Essentially because I want to support the artist in any way I can. Maybe some people think the same way about their plug-in companies, even if they want to appeal to the high-end market
>>48236526
that bass is way too loud
anyone know why i keep getting this error everytime I open up the playlist in flstudio?
>>48238946
Are you using a cracked version?
>>48239488
yeah, seems to have stopped happening all of a sudden though
wierd
>>48239572
sometimes buggy VSTs cause this for me
>>48239597
all i'm doing is chopping up this song but it keeps happening
>>48229845
>>48232430
Daily Reminder that it's still on sale on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Arturia-MicroBrute-Analog-Synthesizer/dp/B00G31YMVS
>>48240227
Ahh, the old fashioned "mark it up so we can say we marked it down more" trick. You're only saving $40.
>>48240279
Er, $30
>>48231827
Think of them like any other pitch-based instrument.
Generally I like to use 3 with 2 octaves of the root note and a perfect 7th in between. But you could even chuck the tom sample into a sample based synth and make it entirely chromatic if you wanted.
>>48240320
I heard that microbrutes weren't even that good
blofeld. moog prodigy, juno-6, 8,
>>48240369
Well you heard wrong
blofeld, minimoog model D, JX-10, Wavestation, TX-616, probably an imperial ton worth of organs
>>48240369
you can nab one for 200-225 bucks on ebay. and it's tiny as fuck, definitely a lot of fun to have cus you can basically take it anywhere.
>>48240395
I don't think someone would want something that can only do 1 tone at a time as their first synth
I can't attest to the knob twiddly capabilities
>>48231929
Sadowick. He has a complete start to finish series and covers other cool features.
I think he's doing Bitwig videos now, but his Ableton videos are great. Mr Bill has some awesome videos if you like glitchy stuff.
>>48240459
That's not what I was saying at all. You said you heard that they aren't even good. They're excellent, especially if you consider the cost of them in modular synth modules.
As for it being monophonic (that difficult word you didn't know), I don't see what the big gripe is, most people getting a synth already have experience with plugins. At the price point of the microbrute, there really isn't a suitable polyphonic comparison.
Or did you mean monotimbral?
>>48233882
Sample sounds from real life, learn how to manipulate samples to do your bidding in your DAW of choice.
Smack some wood blocks together and transpose it down a few octaves, lowering the pitch and stretching it out, use it as a kick sample. There's nearly limitless things you can make samples from that'll be way better than electronic stuff with a simple SM58. Hell, even an iphone/ipod built-in mic.
Doesn't matter the fidelity, when you learn how to manipulate samples you can change it's sound so much it'll be unrecognizable. Bend and twist it to your will.
One of the main reasons I'm getting an analog mono synth is simply for the analog sound source that you can't get from digital, which I can then sample and twist until I get something cool.
>>48240459
prick off dicko<3
>>48240514
It being monophonic is sort of a big gripe, and it being monotimbral is too as someone who is interested in using it without the aid of plug-ins.
If I was going to use it as a plug-in on my computer, then I'd just download it and use it on a midi-controller.
>>48240582
No, it would hurt me to see somebody new buy something they don't truly need or wouldn't use.
>>48240600
Why would it need to be multitimbral to be a good beginner synth? It already sounds very full on it's own. Adding to it wont improve the synth.
As for being monophonic, why do you claim to own a monosynth yet don't understand the purpose of it?
The second part of your post doesn't even make sense.
>>48240631
Shouldn't you be on an EDM forum telling people to never buy hardware because you can pirate vsts for free?
Seriously drop trip and lurk, because you come off as an idiot.
>>48240631
>they don't truly need or wouldn't use
>I don't like it, so it's useless to other people
>>48240637
Because a beginner would probably like to maybe add in a sweet brass section with Idunno a string section too. Like, they'd like more timbers lol. Also, I bet they'd like to play a chord.
I never said I have a monosynth.
>>48240654
No... Hardware is cool, I'll just stay on this forum like I have and continue to tell people to use hardware despite that fact.
>>48240672
I was just stating my opinion, sorry that bothers you so much.
I wouldn't find this synth useful, if you plan on using it in similar ways to me you will also not find this synth useful. I can't believe that warrants so many replies.
>>48240716
>Because a beginner would probably like to maybe add in a sweet brass section with Idunno a string section too. Like, they'd like more timbers lol. Also, I bet they'd like to play a chord.
Well.. there's this weird thing called "multi-tracking"... might wanna check it out
>>48240716
Then why did you mention a Moog Prodigy? Was that just pretend dick waving?
>>48240716
I doubt that's on a beginner's mind. If you want multitimbral garden variety workstations, this isn't the thread for you.
And again, you claimed that it wasn't good, not that it was your opinion that a type of synth you've never tried is useless to you.
Seriously, please drop your trip, you're not knowledgeable on the subject, yet you continue to have this air of superiority about you.
>>48240739
Yeah, but if you're looking to do live performances you'd want something else.
>>48240742
Because they sound really cool despite all of that... But you're right, I don't know everything.
>>48240801
Actually, when doing live performances, I prefer to use a monosynth and a combo organ, never had any problems. The polysynths are relegated to studio stuff, since voice stealing and getting everything to not sound muddy on a polysynth live is much trickier.
>>48240801
>Yeah, but if you're looking to do live performances you'd want something else.
A solution to that problem has been actually found 35 years ago
![polybox[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mtmt3z6.jpg "polybox[1].jpg")
>>48240905
Forgot the pic
>>48240933
Polybox isn't that spectacular. It's just unobtainium so they fetch high prices.
>>48240801
hey dicko<3
shut up
>>48241072
leave him alone man, he already proved he doesn't know shit. If we stop replying to him, he'll probably stop coming here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FOemPSGTQI
Test oscillator through EML Polybox and Sennheiser Vocoder
>>48241095
Microbutt is ass
>>48232380
>Get a VA synth that can accept samples in place of the waveform
>Get a mono synth like microbrute
>Take several long samples of one note, like middle C
>Layer them all together into one sample
>Use them polyphonically in the digital VA synth
I'm doing this, can't wait till it arrives in the mail in a few days. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
I know it doesn't have noise but I'm gonna try to make some songs entirely from microbrute samples regardless, drums and all, +digital sampling techniques. I'll at least try, goddammit! :D
>>48241206
Noise is incredibly easy to find. There's probably an app for that so you can just plug an iWhatever into the ext input.
>>48241206
You can make your Microbrute really noise-like though. Turn LFO Speed way the fuck up so it becomes audible and fucks up all your oscillators, add Brute Force, play with the filters, voila
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>>48241246
Yeah, which is why i'm not too concerned. I can always just find static-y noises from the internet and meld them into the analog samples anyways. You can do anything with sampling.
>>48241248
Thanks bro, good to know. I know that BF can really cause hell, especially when combined with the res, so I'm sure I can come up with something interesting for snare hits.
In other news, what do you guys think of this? Really fascinating me atm, though some people say the clicks are a real problem, but holy fuck it just looks so cool for making unique sounds, please tell me if this is worth the buy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hOkFjVMYMk&hd=1
>>48241376
Granulation is a tricky process. I find it incredible that they managed to make a hardware box for it, that cheap.
>>48241413
I know, right? I believe it even has a mic in it for direct sampling in the box.
If there's nothing better in existence, I'll get it and live with it's flaws. I get ASMR tingles from that video, man, shit's intense.
>>48241457
I have access to Kyma which has some incredible power behind it, and can do a lot more. However, you need to make your own control surfaces, and use midi controllers. It's also prohibitively expensive.
>ASMR
Just call it tingles man, ASMR makes you sound like one of those desperate guys who watches youtube videos to substitute social interaction.
>>48239572
>>48238058
lol
>>48241206
Good, this is good.
>>48241206
>Get a VA synth that can accept samples in place of the waveform
example of this kind of VST?
>>48241773
Any plug in sampler
>>48241773
Just fucking buy a blofeld already
>>48241773
I use NanoStudio, which is a free DAW, which does this (Eden synth). There are probably VST's (free ones, even) which also do this, though.
Original poster of what you responded to here.
>>48233882
Depends on what I'm producing. Anyone who only uses a singular source is a boring person.
For Hip Hop I mainly sample breakbeats and other random open drum sounds on records. I have both Ultimate Breaks & Beats and Dusty Fingers the complete collections, which are both great sources. I don't use them too much though because most of those breaks have been overused.
For edm(trap, house, dubstep) I usually use the libraries that came with Geist and Maschine, Goldbaby tape 808 along with some other random 808 samples.
When I make trip hop or downtempo shit I use pretty much anything but process it more heavily, and also record random stuff in my room.
These aren't exactly rigid rules for me, just what I've found to be the best methods. Sometimes I use breakbeats in dubstep and sometimes I just take some Vengeance sample for a hip hop beat, whatever sounds good at the end of the day.
>>48241784
>>48242016
>>48242044
I just realised I already have one, and it's called Harmor. Thanks anyway.
>>48241525
Fair enough, "tingles" it is, didn't know there was a negative connotation to it tbh, sorry. But I do get that feeling that ASMR describes.
Is there a torrent for Kyma? If not, are there any other plugins which could do the granular thing? Would it be fair to call this "granular synthesis"?
The hardware + pricepoint is really making me lustful, though. If software can do it better though, I'd love to know what to pick up, especially if it's free/torrentable. One of the comments on the video talked about "interpolations between grains", is there a good plugin/VST that does that well/deals with clicks better?
I really love that sound and want it, if there are better options than the mG I'd love to hear about them so I can use them.
>>48242328
>is there a torrent for Kyma
Lolno. It's a combination hardware DSP and software platform. It's really expensive for a reason. There's no possible way to run it without the proprietary DSP chips. There's no way your computer could handle the computations anyways.
The problem with home computers is that everything is done in parallel, and audio needs to be done serially. This is often why hardware digital synths still use dated DSP cards, and why home computers aren't very good at handling audio.
I'm not sure what else does granular synthesis, as I'm only familiar with Kyma's implementation.
how do I go about making vaporwave?
>>48243051
Wrong thread bro
ayy lmao
>>48243051
find a some elevator music and slow it down and then occasionally copy and paste some parts
>>48238058
because I am trying to make a living through music and it would be pretty ironic if I was a pirate
>>48229883
im weary of any all-in-one mastering plugins, but people love Ozone and iZotope know what theyre doing for sure.
>>48232507
MS-20 mini
>>48233775
no
>>48243112
Is that the only piece of gears you have?
If so, 6/10
>>48238058
because its a dick move
>>48233882
x0x samples that I manipulate with all sorts of plugins and processing. sometimes I like to layer 909s and 707s with each other.
>>48229086
wjat are those machines in the OP Pic, they look cool and beelpy
>>48243224
no but it's my favourite
>>48243190
yo you aren't going to. anyone who values their music should basically put "making a living" into the impossible dreams pile. I actually think the only sensible way that depends least on luck is to be a very good and consistent hip hop producer and aggressively market both leased and exclusive beats to amateur rappers. Your chances of actually making a living from selling music to fans and doing gigs are basically 0.
i guess being in a really good wedding/party band is the other sort of reliable way but I'd imagine it'd still be hard to scrape it together for a good living without a day job.
Your music is really good tho.
>>48243270
http://www.sonic-potions.com/lxr I'd imagine
>>48243302
yes i realise this but too bad I was retarded 2 years ago when I decided to do music technology at college instead of A levels or anything normal, so yea
fuck
>>48243284
Your other gear must be dog poo then
>>48243346
you decide
>>48243364
>rokits
>microkorg
>behringer mixer
Lol, he was right.
At least you have a brute
>>48243364
I like that Ibanez in the background
>>48243416
some people have to buy their own gear
>>48243302
thats not really true. provided you arnt total shit you really can make a living on music related stuff, you just have to work a ton and accept being most likely poor. ive make a living off music for about two years. some of it has been footwork stuff like bar bands, working for other people and whatnot though. it can be done if you are flexible
>>48243416
The Rokits get too much unnecessary hate, I think. For the price they give a good representation, and for the size they have a very wide frequency response. They give a good representation at bedroom producer volumes, which is what they're intended for. Also the Behringer mixer is still working after 3 years so I have no problems with that, apart from the digital interface is awful. It's non linear phase because it's that bad and only 16 bit, so I have a Saffire 6 for my A/D D/A conversions.
>>48243442
tnx I've had it since i was 11/12 and I still like it
>>48243465
Wow. I'm not even going to dignify this with my occupation, unlike yourself who likes to tell everyone every thread that he teaches audio at a private school.
Some people actually have to work their way through college.
>>48243342
Ah, that might be a bit problematic. I mean I have no idea about your living situation but couldn't you get some other education, like isn't education free in Britain ?
>>48243493
True, music related stuff. Playing in bands and things like that it isn't impossible at all.
But like i mentioned in my post, if you want to make music and sell it / do gigs for a living, you're definitely going to have a hard time cutting through.
I mean I don't really know, music is just a hobby to me. I try to keep creative stuff from taking over my life. If someone wants to sell their stuff I'm not gonna say there's anything wrong with it.
>>48243509
Saffire 6 is solid.
>>48243696
bit late now, half way through it. also I'm getting Distinction star in it, so that should boost my chances.
I mean, it's literally the only thing that I can do.
>>48243670
thats fine...no need to justify with your occupation. in defense of myself, the reason ive stated my day job is because people have asked. teaching audio isnt some wondrous job that only the best can do. its just a day job.
fyi, i worked full time while going to college so not really sure what you're getting at.
wasn't trying to put you down. just not into people being judgmental about other people's setups.
>>48243907
>wasn't trying to put you down
Intentions don't mean anything.
>>48243980
cool. if you feel put down because i pointed out how lame it is to knock on people's setup, don't know what to say.
>>48244045
I just acknowledged that the other guy was right. You just flat out insulted me. Now you just don't want to get off your high horse.
>>ITT wp666 digs himself a hole
>>48244090
no high horse. if im wrong, im wrong and i apologize to you for insulting you.
seriously - i need to stop commenting on stuff that im not actively apart of as my goal is to _not_ be a shitposter. 100% my mistake.
>>48244126
correct
>>48229086
How are the LXR OP? They tempt me but I'm not sure if they're worth the money
>>48243980
>>48244126
>>ITT you samefag and troll / shitpost
>>48244188
dont own one - but the kit is on my to-buy list as i really need some new drum sounds and the 7 triggers you can add are just too nice
>>48244265
Yeah, me too, I just can't decide between that and the Nord Drum (I know they're quite different)
reviving thread:
>tfw the OP-1 is ridiculously overpriced
i can just imagine myself sitting on a train and making shit on one, in crazy money-to-blow fantasy land.
>>48244236
ok well i guess you just shitpost and troll then.
>>48244314
my old boss had one of these and still has it. hes a sound designer and uses it primarily for those purposes.
they sound amazing (IMO) and are a lot of fun to use...but AFAIK there's no way to sync it with other hardware which means im not going to be interested in it for the time being. would love to have one for sampling purposes, though.
>>48244321
I guess we're not so different after all.
>>48244314
i think that about everything small i buy but sitting on a train making music is really awkward in reality.
I still really want one, seems like a fun little box.
>>48244364
They have some thing they make that you can use to sync it with lots of stuff.
>>48244364
I have a feeling we're going to start hearing of the OP-2 pretty soon, but as it's teenage engineering it's going to come out years after that
hopefully that will play nicer with external equipment, maybe multiple ins and sync and stuff
>>48244388
The train I used to ride to college was quite voluminous, though the only thing I've ever jammed on the train with was a Kaossilator.
>>48244462
It's basically an arduino but with standard sockets for music gear.
>>48244462
wow - thank you for bringing this to my attention.
>>48244478
ill pay attention to everything they do as nothing they do is "typical."
>>48244314
i dunno, they do do a lot of stuff and they sound nice. im sure if you bought enough hardware to match all the things it does it would cost way more
>>48244515
I know this I was just pointing out they do make something you can just buy to easily sync it with stuff.
>>48243703
very. it's very impressive for the money, built like a tank and very high quality
>>48244534
I know. I was just making people aware that you have to code it yourself.
>>48244567
Also I've always wanted an arduino to mess around with doing custom midi stuff.
I've always wanted to design my own chord memory midi box.
>>48244609
I think mutable instruments has a DIY kit for that. It does a bunch of cool stuff.
>>48244630
nvm, it comes fully assembled, and it's out of stock.
>>48244657
Midipal does chord memory? Interesting. I want one.
>>48244710
Yep. I've wanted one for a while myself. But I can't bring myself to order one, there's always other things I "need"
>>48244732
Well I'd love to have chord memory on the fly as well as being able to quick step sequence stuff. I'll have to pick one up when they show up again.
>>48244815
i have an er-1. its so finicky lol
>>48244815
did you replace that belt yet?
>>48244849
Really? I haven't really had any issues with it aside from my AC adapter failing. It's really great for quick house/deep house beats.
>>48244882
Currently in the process of doing so. As soon as I can find my hex wrenches I can remove the head assembly to clean out behind it. The belt was gone and it left behind a shadow of dust like it was in a nuclear blast or something.
>>48244963
nono i mean in dialing in specific stuff. functionally its really solid
>>48243051
>>48243140
This, but if you actually want to make that kind of vapor/retro/synth/foowave that's been passe since before it was made just cop some stuff from the era. It's all super fucking cheap. Roland U-series/sound canvases, yamaha DX/SY, korg m1/01w. Really any dated workstation will get you there, korg triton presets are king for that stuff imo.
>>48244314
It's surprisingly poorly built. The only thing on it worth exploring, imo, is the sampler which is quite fun. Brings me back to the S612 days with sliders for start and end points. The biggest problem with it is that everything sounds very same-y. It can definitely hold its own through a PA so if you like its sound, there really isn't much else like it. They're not too bad used, 5-600.
>>48244462
Now THIS thing is overpriced. Even with the recent price drop. Bare PCB with no chassis, even the (optional) milled chassis only covers the bottom. Teenage engineering indeed.
>>48245139
>S612
Goddamn I love mine. Got it with the SCSI drive for $20. It's so easy to get what I want, and has just the kind of dirt I like.
>>48244987
Oh yeah the knobs really do have quite the range. I need a good compressor to put my drum machines through though. The 505 and er-1 are a bit thin at times.
>>48245139
>Now THIS thing is overpriced. Even with the recent price drop. Bare PCB with no chassis, even the (optional) milled chassis only covers the bottom. Teenage engineering indeed.
Never said it wasn't but if the OP-1 was a serious part of your workflow I can see how it or something DIY would be useful.
I wish I could have an OP-1 but they are just too damn expensive for what you get.
>>48237222
>>48237377
>guy wants drumpads
>suggest micro slimline keyboard for people with delicate ladyfingers instead
r u a retard
>>48234006
>>48237108
this dude's on the money. save up another hundred and get the mpd26
>>48245187
I never owned one but I had regular access to one for a long while, awesome machine.
>>48245227
>I wish I could have an OP-1 but they are just too damn expensive for what you get.
Well, like I said there really isn't anything else out there that's similar so it's hard to compare. The closest I could think of would be something like the gotharman little deformer and its extra boxes and those are quite a bit more expensive. Also, not especially portable. iPad and samplr? I guess but it's kind of that same dissimilar comparison. For all its faults it's definitely more than the sum of its parts.
I'm not just a forum bullshitter, I've actually got one. It's OK, well not as good as its fans say, but nowhere near as bad as detractors think. I've absolutely paid more for music gear that does far less.
What do you guys think of these? I think they sound pretty great imo
>>48245524
Sound great. I want to get one secondhand off of some dumb hipster so I can rig some organ bass pedals to it.
>>48244388
>tfw you watch a 'hip guy' sit down snatch the seat next to a qt he doesn't know on an 8 hour bus trip and then spend the whole time "producing"
>tfw you can hear the brostep leaking thru his headphones
embarassing
Who'd take "teaching audio" as a bragging attempt? People who are good get to do big things, not teach.
>>48245498
>I've actually got one. It's OK, well not as good as its fans say, but nowhere near as bad as detractors think.
That sounds pretty good. I'm a sucker for small devices that do a decent amount of stuff because I like to go make music with a few of my friends and lugging around stuff is a pain. One time I walked across town with my juno and wanted to kill myself.
>>48245524
Wicked overpriced because it says moog on the box. They were so cheap they made the patch panel IDC headers ffs.
>>48245618
If I were forced to make an analogy, I'd say it's the synthfag equivalent to the parlor/backpacker guitar. Lug a crate taxi or something with the OP in your backpack and you can electro-busk or jam out with anybody all day.
>>48245599
alright - last thing ill ever say about teaching audio in reference to myself
what a profoundly short sighted view of the world and, more importantly, working in audio period.
teaching is a job like many others. some of my friends work and do corporate A/V stuff. some work in studios full time and scrape by. i had a chance to teach, continue to do so, and do not regret it. its immensely gratifying helping someone learn/understand anything. also, it pays better than most PT jobs over here where I live.
"big things" - such as what? my goal is to do audio and music until im dead in the ground. my jobs allow me to buy up gear, play shows with said gear, and record music that gets released with said gear.
ive done corporate A/V. ive done legit concert sound. ive worked in studios as part of staff and as a freelancer. teaching is better than all those things. plus, having access to the studios is great for my personal music projects.
>>48245687
I've actually thought of plugging into a roland cube hooked up to a car battery or something.
It's super embarassing but one time I jammed out on a roof with this casio as an organ with two of my friends playing ukulele and guitar. That was a weird ass night.
If I didn't suck so bad at playing keyboards I'd probably have a better time.
>>48245749
Nigga, I was just testing to see if you'd reply. Nothing wrong about teaching and having access to studios is great, but you really shouldn't get this defensive over internet comments. Do yourself a favor and consider dropping the tripcode, because you clearly don't have skin thick enough to wear one.
>>48245768
If you're having fun then you're doing alright. :)
>>48245934
i use the tripcode because i personally dont like posting anonymously. has nothing to do with my thick skin/lack there of.
did you have any reason to believe i wouldnt reply? id like to hear your response, still, re: "big things."
>>48240401
I'm not the guy you were telling that to and if you're still here, I was wondering if I should be afraid of buying off ebay when the picture is just a generic stock image of the MicroBrute? I'm not sure if there are shitty bootlegs and is there any way to tell if it is one?
>>48246148
A microbrute bootleg? Are you serious?
>>48246148
yeah, >>48246315 is right. dont think youll be running across any microbrute bootlegs.
lots of companies use stock images for stuff on ebay. what company are you trying to buy from or is it an individual?
>>48243493
>>48243696
I think the problem is making a living playing *YOUR OWN* music. As in, unique creations, especially those that aren't generic and catered to the lowest common denominator. This is precisely why it's far better to find a day job that you enjoy that you can work 40 hours a week and have time on the side and on weekends to be creative.
Thus: 48243814
Electronics Engineering Master Race reporting in :D. I have an actually high probability of some day getting to work on creating music equipment some day, whether it be amps, synths, fx pedals, etc. If not, I can at least use my extensive knowledge to build cool-sounding stuff just for myself. :DDD
I hear going into the business side of the music business can work as well. You basically gotta find something that meshes with your interests, but isn't specifically music (which is really not music, but performance, if you think about it).
Performing at art festivals for free after vaping a few bowls is still one of the greatest experiences of my life. Experiences and people are far more important than music imo, at least when it comes to art stuff.
>>48246148
Use paypal and you'll be fine.
Also, don't fall for any tricks where they try to delay you, they're just trying to let the paypal grace period run out.
>>48234023
So then... is REAPER worth getting/using as your (my) main DAW?
Above all else I need something that's good at manipulating samples in lots of ways, and quickly. How many keyboard shortcuts do you need to know, and how good of a DAW is it if you actually memorize those?
>>48246525
ableton
>>48246315
I know they do that for other shit so I wasn't sure.
>>48246399
I've never really used ebay much before so all of the same pictures with prices within one of two dollars of each other was throwing me off. Pro Audio Star, the first result on ebay, looks like a fine price compared to others but now that I look, the ratings are very very high on their page.
>>48246477
Thank you for the advice!
Stupid question now that I think about it, but thanks for responding
>>48246525
ableton
>>48246582
got my MiniBrute from Pro Audio Star. no issues.
>>48246582
Pro Audio Star is solid, you'll have no issues with them.
Still be wary of evilbay, it hasn't earned that nickname without reason
>>48246525
Definitely not Ableton, an entire company is way too much for a beginner to handle. Try the DAW they offer instead, Live
>>48246664
>>48246640
Thanks so much again, maybe about to get my first synthesizer!
>>48246787
Not a bad choice
>>48229883
That's the shit i do like.
>>48235127
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