How do i make Ghost Trap Edition
no /prod/ thread in sight so i thought i'd make one
mixing on headphones, yes or no?
if yes, which headphones do you use?
Sennheiser HD215 here
also r8 my shitty work in progress
https://clyp.it/55is3riy
FL, most of it is synth1 with the exception of the drums which are a basic 808
i think it needs some kind of prominent lead, but it might clutter things up even more
>>61520218
I've only been producing around 4 months so someone correct me if i'm wrong, but there isn't much loss in mixing on headphones if you have another place to monitor the sound to some degree for comparison?
Also, if you are using headphones like your Sennheiser's then there shouldn't be vast discrepancies between the true sound and the sound you hear on playback.
Ghost trap (I can only assume) is going to have ambient p& synths with thick, widened sort of sub and heavy kick underneath that sub. Claps are traps snares. Trap uses triplets so dont be afraid to line things up off time. Trap also uses velocity ramps within hi hats to add undertone and texture to the simple drum beats.
By this, i mean laying 8 (or however many) hi hat hits with progressively harder velocity towards the end of a 4/8/16 bar frame, in effect it will add a cresendo to the mix.
Sub bass should be prominent in the mix, but still underneath the rest of the track.
current project clip - heavy drum and bass
https://clyp.it/uhsubogg
Following up with an anon who was telling me about getting an external sound card over an internal.
>An external will allow you to route your audio out to monitors, as well as to route in external instruments. See how that one has a quarter inch headphone output and mic input? It likely has line outputs on the back as well to send audio to monitors (or other outboard gear).
So basically, an external one will have more hands-on functionality I take it rather than an internal sound card? That's the main advantage I take it, no?
>>61520218
I used to use headphones a long time ago (Beats then Sony for quality), and I don't regret switching to monitors.
I don't have much up, but I do mostly boombap and trap here
soundcloud.com/guru-beats
>>61520423
the Ghost trap thing was a meme, cause people in the last thread were asking shit like how to make cloud trap and ambient trap :^)
but thanks for elaborating on this, much appreciated
I just suck xD
>>61520450
Thing is, when i switch to my pc speakers, there's a huge difference in the lower registers.. although it might be the shitty speakers, i was taught to make music sound good on any device, at least to some extent
cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeese
https://clyp.it/e4eukmxs
>>61520218
>mixing on headphones, yes or no?
yes because i don't have enough for good monitors
>if yes, which headphones do you use?
meme-technicas m50
>i think it needs some kind of prominent lead, but it might clutter things up even more
Exactly
try it
Nice otherwise
>>61520611
thanks senpai
does anyone else use the synth1 plugin?
i don't think i've ever used another soft synth as much as this
i'd download Omnisphere, but it'd take days ;-;
>>61520684
I used synth1 and I think it is nice even though I don't use it anymore
top tier free synth imo
>>61520684
synth1 is the undisputed grand daddy of free VSTs.. been using it for years and years
it's kind of a one trick pony but it does its thing soo well
I like combining the arpeggio and harsh FM/PWM modulators with some delay for weird metallic percussion rhythm
>>61520218
some anon used this for /prod/ and I think it's actually pretty decent for a /prod/ general OP
>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors (wink, wink, WINK)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.
Learn why starting a music business is a bad idea, when multiplication is the same as addition, and why no one uses ProTools.
Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP : posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.
Remember to check other peoples' clyp.it links to keep the thread healthy
>>61521936
This kind of pasta, combined with "Learn why" summarizing the flamewars of the past thread, and general clyp.it exhortation, is about as old as /prod/ itself
>>61520218
Great composition. Just needs more focus on mixing.
>>61521936
Thanks, i've been looking for a pasta like this
Just got back to /mu/ after a year ngl
A short piano piece I did earlier this afternoon. I used Truepianos. How is it?
https://clyp.it/e12lo1dk
What production software is the best for someone just learning to produce music
>>61523394
Any of them, honestly. Logic Pro, Ableton Live, Pro Tools, Cubase, FL Studio, etc.
Just take some courses on the DAW you choose.
>>61523394
If you're on a Mac, definitely Garageband. Once you get experienced enough, the transition to Logic Pro should be smooth.
>>61520218
https://soundcloud.com/catilluminati
Hey guys sorry for long post,
I make music but mostly orchestral/classical but i wanna get into some reasonable fascimile of EDM/electronic production but I
haven't listened to enough of it to have a good sense of it really.
I really like this kind of thing
https://soundcloud.com/sodaisland/ramzoid-turtle-theme
https://soundcloud.com/sodaisland/grynpyret-boba-beach?in=iamthefourth/sets/summer-skies
Kinda playful, shuffly, sample heavy if im not mistaken, like i say i dont have much of a frame of reference to describe it
(someone even telling me similar genres would be helpful). I realize it takes alot of work (i assume) to put it all together.
Cause im not that into EDM "in general" I kinda dont know where to start, I mean i know a bit about production, I have ableton and
have messed around with sound design and making beats and stuff but not too much.
So ya, could anyone give me any guidance towards the key elements of those kind of tracks and where I should start? I guess this
question isnt that clear but oh well, sorry, and thanks
For someone still starting off, do you guys think it's necessary to opt for an 88-key MIDI controller versus a 61-key?
I feel like 88-key is a bit big, but give me your input.
>>61524753
If you know how to play piano get 88, although 61 is completely adequate
If you dont play piano, get a 25 key or dont waste your money.
>>61524753
What kind of things are you gonna be playing? Big solo piano pieces? May require 88 keys. Synth leads/basslines that are within 1 or 2 octaves? Don't need 88 keys.
https://clyp.it/tuqzyxif
any suggestions as to where to go from here, I want it sound really big and full. I'd also like to avoid having drums on this track.
>>61524907
I want to learn piano a bit as well, but I have read that you don't necessarily need 88 keys for that.
Although, what do you think?
I'm currently looking at the M-Audio Keystation and the price difference between the 61-keys and 88 keys is only 30 bucks, but I just don't know.
>>61525342
if it's only 30$ difference go for the 88 one
tfw I accidentaly uninstalled a c++ runtime and I don't know which plugin it exactly went to
now I have to fucking run all the installers again
>>61525342
If the difference is that small you might as well get 88 if you have room for it. I'd focus more on making sure that it has good reviews for how realistic it's weighted keys feel
>>61525492
>>61525608
Alright, sounds good. Well, do you guys have any recommendations that come to mind for 88-key midi controllers? Aside from the M-Audio one I'm looking at. It runs about $200.
>>61525680
anything with semi weighted or fully weighted keys that also has a mod wheel and pitch wheel is what I would go for
I have m audio with cheap feeling keys and it sucks I regret getting it
https://clyp.it/ov1mkofe
Recorded a quick jam and some ideas I've had on guitar. I've been struggling with making drum tracks that go with anything I play, maybe it's my fault, but does anyone have tips on what I should add here for drums? Or is anyone willing to take a crack at adding some so I can study? I can't keep not doing anything because I can't drum for shit.
>>61525735
Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
I see that there are some midi controllers with drum pads. Am I really missing out on anything getting a controller without some?
And also I often read that people say to get controllers with aftertouch. How about that?
>>61525847
no that's why I went for mine
I have oxygen 4th gen with the drum pads and knobs and the knobs are loose feeling + shitty keys with no after touch and the pads are unremarkable not bad or great
I just automate paramaters like after touch and sustain pedal
I used caustic 3 wich is a mobile app for a very long time now and I want to move on, but I hate using fl studio and Im never happy with the results when I use it
I can give ableton another try but is there anything out there on a par with FL?
im into electronic music mainly but I think Im going to give actual instruments a try
experimenting with my ukulele on garage band is really fun
>>61525997
I like cubase a lot
I use ableton also and I think it is alot faster to work in for dance music than cubase
but cubase excels at recording real instruments compared to ableton
pretty much every daw has its own strength and weakness
>>61520218
never do final mixing on headphones. even crappy monitor speakers will give you a better result.
the problem with mixing on headphones is that they are often designed to boost or cut either low or high freqs so the way it sounds in your phones will be completely different from how it sounds on any speakers
>>61526121
I have to get a mic then, or find a way to work out how to hook my ukulele on my pc
I shouldve mentioned, I use garage band for the ipad
https://clyp.it/c3pr4k2w
Never worked on hard stuff before, always simple 4x4 progressive bullshit for 5 years. How did I do?
I already know of the following:
>I'm bad with limiters, like REALLY BAD
>No mastering
>Repetitive drums and chord structure
>Bad transitions
Do I at least have something basic going?
I was going for something as hard, loud, and dirty as possible. It's not supposed to sound nice.
Criticism welcome, because I'm pbad
>>61526373
get rid of those fucking cymbals for the love of allah
>>61526505
What should I use instead?
does anyone know how to sync the DM1 drum machine app for iPad to DAW (Logic).
>>61520218
Pick up some weight and actually live that trap life
Youre trying to emulate someting you are not thats why you cant produce the sound
>>61526694
idk, bit crushed white noise, run it through a subtle flanger, then a phaser, apply reverb on top of that, bit crush this whole shit again and your done
>>61526799
but thas why is Ghost trap
just an illusin mane
>tfw all i want is a juno 106
>>61527012
>tfw got a free D-50 but it's broken
>>61527029
>free D-50
>but it's broken
:'^(
>>61527050
what's worse is I live in a fuck all city for instruments that aren't guitars or drums so if I want to get it fixed I'd have to ship it
>>61527082
thats rough, arent they expensive to repair as well?
I know that feel. Only used shops in my area have synths.....somtimes
>>61527012
It's worth it but not worth it at the same time
I'm interested in getting into production, would it be better to get all the equipment right now? Or just go barebones and see if I really enjoy it?
>>61527200
Download a DAW and see if you like it. If you like it then get a midi controller and maybe some monitors if you're really sure.
>get all the equipment right now?
you can never get all the equipment ever
>>61527281
hes right
youll never even get most of the gear you want
>>61527121
yeah I imagine it'd be costly especially for this one because it's all kinds of fucked
So I know its stupid as fuck but I want to learn FL to try producing. Its terrible I'm sure and I'll be shit, but everybody has gotta start somewhere right?
>>61527436
Ah fuck missed the other half
is there any good tutorials for how FL works that you guys recommend? or any good producing tutorials recommended?
>>61527436
>>61527450
fl studio is actually not that shit of a program
just read the manual and watch youtube to get the basics theres probably more help for fl studio than most daws
then when youre better look for this thing called the fl studio bible and it has advanced features of the program
>>61527143
They sound so cool but they're so fucking expensive
>>61526776
If it has midi Get a midi cable and the camera connection for your iPad then you can trigger it from your daw
>>61527476
Oh cool, Im glad to hear that. I expected to just get shit on, but thanks. I'll give that a shot.
>>61527436
Dude I guess you should try it to see if you like it but for real if you wanna do BEETS and stuff just go for Abelton. Its worth the money.
honestly idk why producing is synonymous with making DOPE BEETS these days and not like recording a band really well like phil spector days but man i guess that the direction shit is headed in these days. Midi sux.
>>61525847
you should get something with some drum pads. You dont need a huge keyboard if your not a proficient player. Your Midi keyboard should be a universal controller, faders knobs etc, not just a decent keyboard. Unless you just have tons of space or whatever
i need some drums loops like this song but i cant find anything, im using fl studio 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CC1x2fh4Vs
what can i do?
>>61527555
For now I think I'll use this because it seems like it'll work if I can pick it up, plus it looks like there's a ton of info floating, but I'll definitely give it a shot.
>>61527633
http://de-de.sennheiser.com/drummica
>>61527633
Why not just program a loop like that?
>>61527597
Can you recommend any controllers?
>>61527873
who can i use this?
>>61527993
i suck with drums
>>61528091
you know you can just click in the drum hits, right?the beat you posted is so simple
>>61528091
you register and download it
its a free drum kit and it comes with various loops
you might need to translate with google
it uses kontakt 5 player it installs it when you download it
>>61520443
Not him, but I'd avoid usb/FireWire and go for internal with an external module attached.
>>61520423
>https://clyp.it/uhsubogg
dope sound.. would like to hear more
>>61527012
I have one... its amazing... buy one from this dude.
http://www.synthspa.com/juno106_combo.html
>>61528821
Please don't listen to this guy.
Is there a better way to organize the plug in list in ableton?
>>61529028
Yes. It's called FL Studio
Finally finished it
https://clyp.it/uioz1klp
https://clyp.it/bshfrva3
Are the singing samples shit?
>>61529291
yes, and so is touhou
>>61529575
..I..
>>61529014
And why is that?
Btw I'm "this guy". If you've got an explanation, I sure as hell want to hear it.
>>61526163
>they are often designed to boost or cut either low or high freqs
Even the high end studio ones?
>>61529152
Not bad. I would personally side-chain the kicks to make them more impactful, if not for the whole song, at least for the beginning and/or buildup.
Hey guys got a problem,
Ableton keeps crashing my PC if I use the notation Launchpad long enough. It's always a blue screen IRQL_NOT_EQUAL_OR_LESS error. I'm assuming I'll need to reinstall drivers or something, but has anyone else encountered this kind of thing?
/prod/ is literally shit
>>61530536
Should have got a mac m8
>>61530536
Maybe you've got faulty RAM. Run memtest overnight.
>>61530655
Not into gayporn m8
>>61530668
Thanks man, I'll give it a shot.
>>61530836
before you run memtest, swap the RAM's slots ie put your sticks in different slots (heehhhehe)
is there anything OC'd on your computer?
life crushed i'm iced upp
http://picosong.com/EPve/
>>61530929
Not that I had know of, but when I get home this will be the first thing I do, I've been trying to prod but this shit has been driving me crazy and cutting me off anytime I get something going.
Anybody know how this Steinberg education stuff works? Can I buy Cubase at a discount now and continue using it after I graduate?
>>61531586
yes
>>61520423
>>61528979
https://clyp.it/1syjgkjw
>>61530536
sounds like DLL hell to me...
do a fresh install of windows and ableton, then don't use your machine for anything else.
>>61520218
>mixing on headphones, yes or no?
no
headphones sound far too different from each other
>>61532036
>implying headphones can't be used as a point of reference
stay pleb
>>61532083
>implying i made that implication
>>61532036
>>61532083
>>61532099
>implying i'm plying on implications
>>61520218
Sometimes I mix with the headphones if I don't want to wake my roomates up with my dank beats at 3 a.m. but after that I always bump my mix through the monitors or in my car to make sure it sounds good.
Once I had these sweet high end sound coming through when I mixed on headphones but in the car it was no where to be found. Shit saddened me.
>>61531983
I have so much shit on my computer that this would probably be for the best, but I'm going to do the memtest thing first, and if it's not the RAM then I'll bite the bullet and start backing up all the data that I know and love.
>>61530365
Those are made for gayming, not audio production and recording
>>61529014
There is absolutely nothing wrong with usb (we are past firewire at this point) and its pretty much the standard for beginner / portable interfaces. There is nothing to gain from having 'an internal with external module' connection. Its still a connection at the end of the day and usb has proven to be a stable one, as well as cheaper.
>>61531712
>https://clyp.it/1syjgkjw
sick
>>61532407
well, no
>>61525680
Williams Legato is going for 170 right now.
>>61526830
Flush yourself you pagan.
Faggots like you ruin any real street music.
Trap was made for the trap. Not for bitches like you to try and turn it into art. Its turn up gang banging music. So get lit or join the set.
>>61532548
Those are usually well out of most /prod/ posters price brackets. I thought you were referencing those 5.1 surround cards with a mic input that every beginning producer thinks is enough.
>>61530561
we're doing the best we can
>>61532433
>>61532451
"This guy" here.
I believe PCI(e) should be faster though. With USB soundcards, you have to pass through a separate controller, plus provide a stable voltage (a problem with laptop running on batteries).
If you have a desktop (which I'd advise - bigger screens, usually better drivers for network interfaces which don't bog the system with needless IRQs every 20 ms, same deal with battery controllers - those thing raise your DPC latency significantly).
This is my guesswork though, then again - taking anything here at face value is a bad idea.
Having used both internal and external soundcards, (and both laptops and desktops), for production, I can confidently say I'll never turn on a DAW on a laptop again to make music.
>>61532796
>internal pci soundcard with an attachable module
>oh, sorry, I totally meant those 5.1 soundcards with 3.5mm jacks on the back
Yep, sounds about right.
>>61532677
Fo shizzle my nizzle! You one of 'em gangztaz? I'm pretty gangzta myself.
>>61533891
not that anon.
you might be right about latency, but I know internal sound cards are more prone to electrical interference and usually results a louder ground noise/hum.
>>61534234
this is only an issue with the cheapish shit marketed towards gamers
>>61534234
>electrical intereference
Well, true, but most high end shit should be sufficiently shielded.
Besides, if you've got ground loops and noise in your mains, not much is gonna save you.
>>61533951
I get that you just want to misconstrue people's points so you can have your salty argument for the day, but you've picked the wrong guy.
>>61534394
I believe it was my point that was misconstrued first, but feel free to take away whatever you want from my posts, I guess.
>>61534423
Like I said, you've got the wrong guy.
>>61534442
I don't care.
>>61534458
I do
Get a room, retards.
>>61534477
Depends on what you mean by "the wrong guy".
If you meant I responded to the wrong person, sorry, but also fuck you with your accusations too.
If you meant that you imply I don't know what I'm talking about and see through my bullshit - maybe. I don't really care. Like I said, take away what you want.
>>61534539
That's some idiot trying to make you continue being argumentative.
What I originally meant by saying "the wrong guy" was that you're you're trying to have a 1v1, and I am not the guy for that.
>>61532451
Gonna have to disagree with you anon. Its really the same and any difference is non detectable. I know people that run antelope front ends with 32 inputs and a usb connection and have no problems.
>>61534477
>>61534458
>>61534442
>>61534423
>>61534539
no need to shitpost here
I'm looking to get some monitors next time I come into some spare change, preferably between £100 - £500, looking for a quality pick within a medium bracket just to monitor my noise properly.
Headphones are great for my panning and phasing but to test crunch and brightness of bass and hits I need some quality, studio style monitors.
tl;dr
Suggest me some good monitors, don't worry about price.
>>61534598
B-but muh honor!
What cans do you have?
>>61534598
can't go wrong with JBL LSR series.
>>61520218
I'm using garage band to record vocals for my EP. what are some techniques to improve the overall sound of my voice? Such as mastering? I already add some ambience and reverb. No auto tune. YouTube vocal lessons have also helped me a lot
>>61534612
Senheiser HD 280 Pro
They sound amazing but I just need something to monitor my shit without having to go into a studio or out the house lol
>>61534671
I've seen these around a few peoples set ups they sound phenomonal, nice to have the model tag, thanks.
>>61534706
I really like Waves z-noise, some bandpass filter and very specific eq'ing but i dont know shit about that desu
Think about it like this - you are trying to remove specific frequencies from the track. So tools that acheive that are what you need to search for.
>>61534597
It's funny that you try to use anecdotal evidence against my anecdotal evidence and call it a day.
At least add in some plausible technobabble if you wanna shitpost with me.
>>61534598
>Headphones are great for my panning
Wouldn't they exaggerate the stereo field though?
>>61534786
I would master my panning/phasing with a phase analyser, I like the clarity of being able to follow my sound properly and easily, i'm just talking mixing.
However, in a perfect world I would never be using headphones ;)
>>61534749
Would it be worth having someone professionally mix and master my tracks?
how do you mix sub bass ree
i swear my pc speakers don't even go below 60 or i'm doing something wrong, cause everything sounds delicious on my cans
send help ;-;
>>61534786
>Wouldn't they exaggerate the stereo field though?
that's why its good for panning
>>61534867
Yes
How do you guys write songs?
My two friends and I get together often with all of our hardware (multiple synths, a sampler, a drum machine, various effects pedals, a microphone, and occasionally a guitar) connected through a cheap mixing board into Logic and sort of just go at it. The results are often very interesting, but it leaves me feeling like with some sort of pre-coordinated structure we could come up with better music.
We've been doing it this way for awhile, so when one of us presents a preconceived idea, it seems inorganic and hard to build upon as opposed to the freeform style we usually work with.
Tldr how do I stop jamming and start writing?
>>61534903
spectrum analyze a similar track and try to match the db of the sub bass
>>61534786
and I thought we were just having a debate between two reasonable people, not shitposting like the other dude was. I use both types of setups, they both record audio just fine in a live setting. Latency exists in any setup and the difference is nominal when setup correctly.
>>61534942
start small and simple and try to build on a specific idea
it helps to have two different elements, phrases or song parts that you want to connect somehow over time
>>61534903
temporarily put an EQ on your master and cut out all frequencies above your sub bass range. Then mix your sub bass tracks.
>>61535004
>>61534949
thanks, i'll work with this
thing is my "sub" isn't really a sub track, it's just the 808 kick that goes in that range sometimes, so it's kinda awkward to mix
>>61535046
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html
>find the subbass frequency of the rootkey of your song
>make it in a synth
>???
>profit
>>61527633
sample that song idiot.
>>61534975
Where do you think you are?
Shame the dawbench soundcard benchmarks have been taken down, but I remember reading PCI offers the lowest latency (sometimes lower than PCIe even), but performance of USB cards varies. Would love to see some up-to-date info.
>>61534985
That's actually a great tip thank you
>>61520218
>Mixing on Headphones?
Only if there are no other options. Headphones create an unnatural stereo field not found in nature. There's nowhere in the real world where unique sounds would be relegated to a single ear and not the other. It is because of this artificial quality that mixes will not be able to be critically listened to over headphones. I use Shure 800 series headphones whenever I need to be quiet or I'm on the road.
>also r8 my shitty work in progress
It is obvious you know what you're doing, music-wise. It has good variety, and my favorite part is that you gave the bass part a good amount of freedom. I don't beleive a lead part would clutter up the mix if you used subtractive EQ on other parts to allow room for another track.
>>61535079
>make it in a synth
>>61535230
Not the guy you're responding to but I usually tend to like to have an A part and a B part that can sort of be built upon. Like build A for X numbers of bars then fall back to B then build B for X numbers of bars and fall back to A. It makes things more concrete but leaves room to play around a lot if you want.
>>61535271
Here's a playlist of my sounds, just for shits and giggles:
https://soundcloud.com/litton/sets/for-maxine-and-the-eskimo-bros
>>61535271
thanks for the tip
i made some progress on the track today
i think my lack of lead is somewhat dealt with now -
in the spirit of vaporwave i grabbed the first sax vst i found on google and applied some reverb, thought it came out pretty nice
>>61535400
Sick. I don't understand genres, but I liked what you put down.
What else should I look for in a MIDI controller aside from semi-weighted keys, aftertouch, and pitch/mod knobs? Currently shopping around.
Also, are keyboard "workstations" a waste of money even if they also do MIDI? Or is it better to have a keyboard completely dedicated for MIDI?
Last -- what are some good microphones that you guys would recommend?
>>61534597
An Antelope Orion is a couple of grand, and is powered by an external PSU rather than using USB power, so I'm not surprised it's tight. You're right that there's nothing wrong with USB as a medium for transferring data, it definitely has the bandwidth for 32 channels of 96khz/32-bit audio. Gonna have more latency than PCI-E or thunderbolt though
If I was to criticize USB at an autistic gearslutty level I'd do it by saying that the majority of them are consumer - aimed at people who just want to plug in a USB and have this really useful feature set for a very reasonable price - but you're making sacrifices by doing it. Something like a Saffire 2i2's running on 5V at max 1A and is a mic pre, DI, does AD/DA conversion and sends/receives it all on USB. It's pretty impressive what they can do with those resources really, but it comes at the price of quality. You're going for cheap AD/DA chips, or a just-good-enough preamp or just enough dev time on drivers. Of course there are also a lot of dogshit internal sound cards that make the same tradeoffs.
From all this you can tell I'm an internal sound card dude. I use an RME Raydat which has all digital I/O (ADAT/AES/SPDIF). The sound card has no interference from the PC because everything comes in digital, and the sound card is electrically isolated from the AD converters by ADAT lightpipe. Cons are you have to spend more money on the external AD/DA conversion - a headphone or monitor amp so you can actually hear anything from the sound card, and AD converters.
The good thing about the setup it is that you can build up over time - I started with just an Octopre MkII, but decided that the pres aren't great so I got a couple of Warm Audio mic pres and have them going into a cheap Behringer Ultramatch to convert to AES. Eventually I'll probably get a Ferrofish A16 or something so I have a lot more balanced line level inputs for synths or more mic pres - but the point is I can keep mixing and matching over time
Does anyone else exclusively buy meme gear because it's known to work for other people?
The idea of dropping money on something that I can't get the most out of scares me
>>61528279
>>61528293
thank you so much, downloading right now
>>61535930
>Last -- what are some good microphones that you guys would recommend?
depends what you're recording and how much cash you have to spend
>>61520218
it sounds like you don't really understand chord progressions
>>61535999
i could use common chord progressions if i wanted...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/KORG-Electribe-SX1-SD-inkl-OVP-/262227263363?hash=item3d0df67f83:g:DigAAOSwwPhWjVVW
Should i buy this thing? I want to do some breakcore stuff, but also some Minimal/House. I heard it's fun to play live with this thing, but i don't about it's functionalitys that much.
>>61525680
Roland also makes an 88 key controller with a realistic action from their digital pianos, but if you're looking for something reasonably priced that's probably not the way to go.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh9OJOx48GE
Could someone tell me what instrument it is in the beginning? Also what are some good (celtic) folk instrument VST?
Does anyone have the pastebin of must have free VST?
>>61536253
Sounds like fiddles, anon.
>>61536204
So avant-garde.
>>61525680
>M-Audio one
The semi or fully weighted one? I wouldn't recommend the weighted one for its keys, but it's got other features than that. If you're a beginner you shouldn't really feel much of a difference, it's going to be a while before the keys start dragging on you.
how do i make this not sound like shit?
https://clyp.it/z0mvetcy
>>61535930
When it comes to workstations it depends on whether you're going to use its functions or not. If you're just going to primarily use the workstation as a midi controller and that's all I wouldn't waste the money.
>>61536454
Detune that lead a little less, use some different drum samples
>>61525680
I've heard the nektar impact LX88 is alright, but I don't own one
>>61536310
root to fifth isn't that avant garde :^^)
>>61536872
I would says its pretty standard-garde actually.
>>61536970
WEW
NICE MEME!
RADICAL
>>61520218
I'm wholeheartedly into programming, it's my job, it's half of my life, I spend most of my time on it.
Also, I like music, but I know nothing about making it, apart from playing few tunes on a piano. I understand that music production is a whole world, with tons of things to learn, practice and discover.
So my question is, is this something you can do as a hobby, without special education? Did it interfere with your main pursuits if those are not music production? Any programmers here who are doing this?
>>61537269
>is this something you can do as a hobby, without special education?
Yes.
Can't answer your other questions though, since music production is my job.
>>61537269
https://soundcloud.com/cordwainer-bird/rocky-racoon
i made the stuff on this account in a week or so after getting a recorder/sampler combo for Christmas (pic related). No prior production knowledge or experience (can play guitar decently) Nothing impressive but I have a lot of fun and it doesn't interfere with my main pursuits at all (so far). Not a programmer though so I can't help you from that perspective. I imagine it would make figuring the DAW stuff out a lot easier.
>>61537506
Thanks
>>61537520
Thanks, I'll check it out later.
>>61537269
>is this something you can do as a hobby, without special education?
sure, it would totally help you write music if you learn or already know how to play an instrument, a lot of people (myself included) started producing music first and picked up a bit of piano / guitar knowledge later, and usually that's fine
> Did it interfere with your main pursuits if those are not music production
I don't see any reason why it couldn't be a substitute to something like watching movies/tv or playing video games, so as a hobby it shouldn't take up any time other than free time.
is this any good? 61-keys keyboard advice?
First time making trap
puu sh/mm80C/8dacfb2b84 ogg
I don't think this genre is for me.
>>61538403
just use clyp
>>61538415
I'm sorry. I don't want it on my account.
Bend over FL kids, got some PD acid for you today
https://clyp.it/ctkx3ve4
The patch is a combination of step sequencing, some rudimentary FM synthesis and FM + reverb automation.. all from scratch except for the freeverb~ object
FM synthesis in PD is very fun and rewarding since the math is pretty simple and the possibilities are endless, you can add endless mods/carriers and automate/modulate any variable you can possibly imagine.. something I sorely missed at times in FM8
Just started using Ableton, trying to use this TAL U-NO-60 VST, but it doesn't show up in my plugins even though it's in the assigned VST folder. What gives?
>>61538505
can't wait to hear your fart noises made in your glorified VisualBasic you fucking nerd
>>61538505
>it's shit
WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED
>>61538632
Lol.
What the fuck is the point of MAXPSP stuff unless you're making crazy noise or something. Seems needlessly complicated.
>>61537269
Programmer here, no issues. It's a matter of priorities. And hey, maybe you'll find your niche as a plugin dev.
>>61538611
>tunefish
>Nova
>TDR
Based.
What architecture, 32 or 64? Ableton can't into bit bridging.
Has anyone ever solved a problem by picking "high performance" in the power options? What problem was it?
Is there any reason (pertaining to audio) that I shouldn't mess with the min/max processor state settings?
I've got cooling issues and I figured limiting CPU usage should help. (Yes, my fan's clean.)
>>61539173
yeah, my shitty ultrabook has the opposite problem than your thermal throttling, I need to keep it in 'high performance' mode and on power supply or otherwise it won't be able to do shit with audio without crackling because the cpu clocks way the fuck down
>>61521936
Link for "Audio Engineering and Acoustics ebook bundle" is down, can someone please reupload it?
P L E A S E
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What mid-level book/video/whatever on mixing would you recommend
please guys I feel stuck as fuck
>>61538880
You probably have to be a bit daft to even try to get into it, but if you are, it's fun precisely because it's so challenging and open-ended. I've been making music with regular DAWs and equipment for years and years, accomplished most of what I set out to do and released a bit of stuff, that approach just doesn't have the same appeal any more. If I just want to play music and have a bit of fun I'll grab my guitar or some other instrument and jam for a bit, but I really enjoy finding new ways to go about things production-wise
If you're not into the technical side of these things or are still struggling with production, it probably looks needlessly complicated and pointless. but if you've got a passion for digital sound processing and learning more about it, a big part of learning those things, even in a regular DAW environment, requires quite a bit of in-depth knowledge of the functions behind synths, compressors, equalization, waveforms etc. When you start to touch upon the complex underlying stuff, the math, thinking in terms of frequencies and milliseconds, going in this direction where you make sounds ONLY under those terms isn't that large a step to take - especially if it's a fascinating subject to you in the first place. You have to approach an environment like PD or Max with a different mindset than coming up with a flashy, ready-for-soundcloud .wav at the other end, you do it to learn something, figure out the operations, heck just making a 16-step sequencer work is pretty rewarding. While I'm stuck making basic stuff work for a while - it's my first week into it - it's insanely satisfying to know you can alter any parameter and can come up with pretty much anything, provided you've got the curiosity and time to figure out how.
then there's max4live, pdvst etc that assures you can always take whatever you find back into the old familiar DAWs...
>>61539679
Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio by Mike Senior
>>61538505
Is this a joke?
>>61539945
ssshhh let the aspie kid have some fun
what do BoC use for they are basses?
>>61540015
SH-101 and other vintage stuff, most of their gear remains a mystery
>>61540042
I'm using TAL-Bassline wihich is an emulator of that but I can't get anywhere near BoC.
Is it my fault or is it a shit vst?
>>61520710
>>61520684
>>61520784
Noisia use it, for what it's worth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezh2BM2dh5s
>>61540118
it's not the real thing but it's not that bad a VST, probably needs a lot of processing... if all else fails, try recording it to cassette and burying it in the yard for a week.. guaranteed BoC
>>61540118
dx16 has a sh101 emulator
you can also find vintage sh101's for sale
protip tho: SH101 are top wanker gearslutz gear that has no other value but the nostalgia attached to it. There is much better gear that you can get for what you have to pay for a decent sh101
>>61537269
That's how Tycho (and Deadmau5 I think) got started... Jaded programmers in their mid-20's who decided they'd use their analytical talents and technical know-how to master their chosen body of music.
Me too desu, but I suck so far, and I'm in my early 20's.
>>61540242
sorry D16*
also, why would you even consider going for the BoC sound? its literally babby's first analogue. it's been done a gorillion times
>>61540118
Honestly, if you want to get the BoC/Bibio sound, don't use any emulators. Get a few good synths (Serum, etc), a few subtle FX plugins (esp. distortion and reverb), and learn the nuances of the sound.
>>61539679
I wouldn't recommend any one video or source of mixing knowledge, I would recommend watching as many videos, and reading as many books on the subject, no matter how obscure or mainstream they are, listen to some of the stuff said here and cross check them with other sources, theres no magical tip that will get your mixes shining, and there is no shortcuts either, just learn and apply what you have learned, and always listen to the mixes on any songs you listen to, analyze and try to guess wha's going on, it's fun.
>>61540242
>protip tho: SH101 are top wanker gearslutz gear that has no other value but the nostalgia attached to it. There is much better gear that you can get for what you have to pay for a decent sh101
>>61540247
the mau5 man took classical piano lessons as a child, and as a teenager wrote music with trackers.
>>61540290
would harmor be considered a good synth?
or any freeware?
>>61540309
>trying to justify overpaying for an overrated mono synth
lmfao
>>61540346
Eh! Give up then.
>>61540366
Harmor is good, Synth1 is good freeware. Don't fall for the Sylenth1 meme unless you want to turn into Flume and Zedd's bastard child.
For real, if you love your music, like really love it, either forgo amenities until you can afford a decent paid softsynth or torrent it and buy a legit copy as soon as you can afford it.
>>61540290
>Honestly, if you want to get the BoC/Bibio sound, don't use any emulators. Get a few good synths (Serum, etc), a few subtle FX plugins (esp. distortion and reverb), and learn the nuances of the sound.
lol
>>61540015
most synths can get you that thick BoC style synth bass that you want, a lot even have BoC inspired presets that you can study. If you think the sound you're getting is not up to your taste, change presets, change synths, or add some subtle saturation, chorus/phaser, or reverb to the synth.
>>61540366
Harmor is considered a great synth. And I would take my time looking through freeware, there are tons of great freeware synths and effects out there.
>>61540286
>LuSH101
>101% CPU
Sounds fucking great tho, those TPT filters.
>>61540155
Does the funny dude read mags all the time?
Serum for life.
>>61540386
Show me another synth that can do sequences like this other than the MC202.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghZevUe5ySY
>>61540613
>Read magazine
>Pat his hair
>Flip page
>Continue reading magazine
Entire video desu
>>61540666
Beelzebub is right. GOAT VST/AU MIDI instrument rn
If dubs Steve Duda lurks prod
>>61540757
that sounds like shit
>mono
>1 VCO
>can't store patches
>nothing extraordinary about it.
>~$1000 on ebay
MUH BOC MUH UBERZONE
I'd buy one if I saw one for around 200, but holy fuck, most overrated piece of gear EVER
>>61540758
>Steve Duda lurks prod
He's a dirty redditor.
[spoiler]He probably lurks here tho.[/spoiler]
>>61520218
Guy which software do you use for produces music?
>>61540826
>that sounds like shit
opinion
>mono
not every synth needs to be a poly synth. mono synths have their own character.
>1 VCO
With sub osc, noise and mixable waveforms
>can't store patches
it's not a complex synth. patch storage really isn't needed
>nothing extraordinary about it.
except for the killer roland filter and sequencer
>~$1000 on ebay
that's what the market wills it to be
>MUH BOC MUH UBERZONE
the SH101 was a staple in a ton of artists sounds.
>>61541026
>listening to random anons about anything costing money / that isn't immediately piratable
>>61541014
FL Studio, formerly known as Fruity Loops.
>>61541026
I'd use it if I had it.
>>61541026
A nice sounding roland filter doesn't justify spending 1k on a mono synth with caps about to hit their end life and the key bed probably shit. Unless you're yet another gearslutz user in which case, mad props to you
>>61541106
>if he doesn't spend thousands on outdated he must be a vst kiddie
what's your gearslutz username so I can listen to your trite ambient music?
>>61541298
Replacing caps is dead easy, it's the keyboard that would be a problem.
>>61541368
recapping has a 99% of changing the sound one way or the other
then the key problem
then look at pic related
and tell me that paying more than msrp for a 25 yr old mono synth isn't absolute ridiculous
If I buy a secondhand Maschine without the software, can I just pirate the software and still use it? Secopndhand mikro's go for a little over 100 bucks on eBay, thought it would be a nice, small midi controller for that price.
I see people spread the Serum meme, would I actually gain anything from using it? How cpu heavy is it?
>>61541014
If i want to make dancy shit i will use FL studio
If i want to make 2deep4u sound collages or vaporwave i'll use Audacity
>>61541630
It's a good synth actually.
>>61535979
I am willing to spend up to $100 for a good microphone. What can you recommend?
>>61536488
Well, I would use it's functions when practicing piano outside of musical production. Would that make it worth it to buy a workstation keyboard?
Are dedicated midi controllers usually more feature-filled compared to keyboard workstations that can do MIDI?
I really need some help on this.
I can't decide if I want to get something like the Yamaha MX61 as my starter keyboard workstation, or go for a good Alesis MIDI controller.
I want to learn piano but I also need my MIDI needs met with a good midi controller. Help.
>>61541014
Ableton Live 9
Just pick one and stick to it, it doesn't really matter which
>>61541515
>changing the sound one way or the other
That's not necessarily a bad thing, probably every unit sounds different from another to a degree.
>prices
You got a point there. I'd rather drop that kind of money on something modern.
Stock presets senpai
https://clyp.it/v00g5c2m
>>61541762
A-Anyone..?
I have a Casio CZ-1 in the mail tomorrow
Never used a synth before, especially a vintage synth and in case it doesn't come with a power supply I'm wondering if it makes any difference whether or not I get a cord specifically for it online or could I just use the same cord I use with my guitar amp
>>61542652
DO NOT USE A DIFFERENT GEAR UNLESS THE POWER SUPPLY MATCHES THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE STOCK POWER SUPPLY DUH
![PC_POWER_CORD[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1BkxHPD.jpg "PC_POWER_CORD[1].jpg")
>>61542652
Looks like it just uses pic related for the power cable m8. I always love it when hardware uses one of those instead of some bullshit proprietary power adapters with a wall wart on the end that covers up outlets on a power strip.
>>61542692
nigga if the power adapter is built in to the synth itself then you can swap cables left and right without it mattering. these kinds of cables only carry power from the outlet into the onboard power adapter.
>>61541762
>What can you recommend?
not the guy you're replying to but i picked up a tascam tm-80 for $60 and it's p. good for the price imo.
a good microphone is nothing if you've got shit preamps though so you might want to split your budget if that's the case and spend half on a better mic preamp.
>>61542752
I have a bunch of those, on the ends of them they say 10A 125V
It bothers me because the manual (pic related) doesn't seem to match up
>>61542881
>>61542752
picture of actual port
>>61542881
Never had any kind of legit education with this kind of stuff, but I'm fairly certain if you're in the US then it's going to be taking in 120V. Since the cable is rated for more than that it should be fine if I'm right about this.
Just don't sue me if you don't bother to verify my assumption beforehand and end up burning down your house with the ensuing electrical explosion lol.
>>61533891
>I believe PCI(e) should be faster though.
You could literally never saturate USB bandwidth with a single instrument
>>61543047
Except it's not about bandwidth.
>>61542845
Thanks for the help. I'll keep the preamp in mind. Did not know...glad I'm learning these things.
Can anyone offer me some advice or help about my controller vs. workstation dilemma? >>61541762
Trying to figure out what to buy...
this isnt really /prod/ related but i dont want to make my own thread.
but i recently started 'managing' my buddies edm duo/project and dont really know what i should be doing. im getting emails for people that host events and festivals and so i plan on shooting their EPK out to them in the coming days/weeks.
and then besides that i suggested we have a meeting every week to check on progress and make sure theyre both pulling their weight.
i dunno. any advice?
>>61543337
Well if you don't mind sitting at a computer clicking and typing around for hours, then a controller is fine, buy what you want, if you would rather feel like you're making music on oldschool gear while using what's basically a computer with small screens, then get a workstation.
>>61543401
On your first progress meeting, agree with your mates on a minimum period of time to spend in a studio environment together, as well as agreeing on an amount of rehearsal time when leading up to shows.
Also set up development goals - whether that be instrument lessons, production lessons or (if they are already proficient) discuss aims that your guys might have to acquire new techniques - set timeframes that they need to meet and agree on forfeits that they have to perform if they miss targets - fun stuff, don't fine them money or anything, they're your friends after all and it's tricky managing mates and keeping them as mates.
>>61543450
It's a mixture of both. I'm very driven to do things on my computer exclusively, but I also want to learn to practice oldschool as well.
The Yamaha MX61 is a 61 key workstation that has 1000 sounds from their motif series, and it's priced at $700 which seems like a good deal to me, but then again, cost comes to mind...
If I get a MIDI controller (exclusively) for way cheaper than a workstation, it would probably serve me way better as a midi controller rather than relying on an expensive workstation for MIDI.
I just do not know. I really don't know what to do.
>>61543852
>I also want to learn to practice oldschool as well.
but why
>>61543852
first step would be trying to make music with what you already have and moving from that.
you will know what you need better
>>61532677
then why do these niggas release their precious trap to the mainstram?
>>61543962
Not quite sure as of now, I just appreciate playing live on an actual instrument...that's why.
I'm also trying to grasp music theory as well.
But then at the same time, I really need MIDI controller functionality, I'm just thinking that I wont get a lot of MIDI emphasis with a keyboard workstation because it's meant to be more geared towards a piano rather than a controller...so I'm assuming that it would be quite basic as a MIDI controller.
I just feel somewhat cheated if I buy a workstation to play music aside from production and not have all of the features that an exclusive MIDI controller would have.
>>61544225
Well, I don't have anything to work with as of now aside from my DAW. I don't want to click around without some kind of keyboard.
I don't know what to go with...
I'm currently looking at a Yamaha MX61 keyboard workstation and for the MIDI controller, I'm looking at an Alesis VI with semi-weighted keys and aftertouch, with drum pads.
going insane quite honestly
