ITT: Hated albums that are actually pretty good.
>>61284751
>Lulu
>Super Collider
This album gets a lot of hate that is completely unjustified. In a world of bland and uninspiring music, it is a gasp of fresh air to have an album that is not afraid to go against the grain. Everything from the can snare to the "death style" of the lyrics scream originality and creativity. James Hetfield's vocals sound better than ever, and the guitar work, despite a lack of solos, is on par with any Metallica release. The lack of solos again shows one more way metallica is not afraid to brake from the pack. People looking to move forward musically often try to make the music even more complex, it takes a true genius to look past that and relies that sometimes less is more. By removing the solos metallica is following in the path of Brian Eno and Philip Glass in moving towards a more simplistic approach to music. This was bound to attract hate from traditionalist metal fans, but the forward thinking and open minded fans would be able to look past this and see its genius. The only real problem this album has is that it might have been too forward thinking. The largely negative response to this album is evidence of this. St. Anger maybe a popular subject of criticism today, but in the future it will be hailed as the master piece it is. I hope that next time you listen to this album you too can put aside your preconceived notions of what a metal album should be. You will be presently surprised when you find that, behind all that bias and negative feelings, there is a masterpiece in every definition of the word.
10/10
>>61284823
this but unironically
op made this thread because he is mad i dissed dave mustaine in the other thread
>>61285748
This is bait
>>61285765
ofc
>>61284751
dont know how much it is hated on here but demon days is awesome
The only good song is Frantic and it's only enjoyable in a goofy way.
The rest of the album is a hot shit laid in the middle of a recording studio.
Hybrid theory
SWEEEEET AAAAAM BEEEE EERR
not even joking
>>61284863
>Super Collilder
A lot of people hate this one but once they remixed it, it sounds like an easy 8-9/10
>>61284751
>>61288480
idk a lot of the hipsters I hang out with fucking hate the band. A large amount of them.
>>61288771
let's dance isn't hated that much. also black tie white noise is nauseating
>>61288870
Q: what's worse than a bunch of nerds?
A: a bunch of nerds who don't like rush
>>61288976
>nauseating
Opinion discarded.
>>61288990
I think they see them like some people see Monty Python. Something pseudo-intellectuals listen to and think they're smart while doing it. I'm honestly not sure whether or not I agree. The noodling drives some people crazy.
But, the musicianship is great. The vocals are embarrassing, and all their songs without Geddy Lee singing are better than the ones he does.
...well, it's not good as it is, but you can trim it down to a good 40 minute album. it's not unsalvageable shit as many people say
>>61284751
Some of the best flows and rhyme schemes he's ever used. And the concept it great as well, it's like listening to an audio journal of an actual psychopath. People just can't get past muh accent.
>>61288805
>literally the most critically acclaimed rap album of all time
>hated
/mu/ isn't the only place where people talk about music
>>61289093
There are plenty of good prog bands out there. Rush isn't one of them.
>>61289101
WHY
>>61288805
>hated
>>61288771
Lets Dance is generally well liked though. Tonight I will agree with though, I've always thought it gets a lot of undeserved hate.
>>61289093
nah, they hate them because they are uncool, really. Hipsters only like bands that make them look cool if they like them. That´s where the
metal is for kids meme comes from
>Gerard's vocal range
>decent post-hardcore influenced pop punk
>perfectly edgy comic book lyrics
>>61290319
well, i mean yeah, but the meme originated more from the fact that most people on this board used to listen to metal when they were much younger
![Terence+Trent+DArby+Neither+Fish+Nor+Flesh+547883[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nzS85sw.jpg "Terence+Trent+DArby+Neither+Fish+Nor+Flesh+547883[1].jpg")
>>61284751
People fucking DESPISED this album, but I thought it had some strong elements to it.
Not so much hated, but a bit divisive. It is a good record overall and has Sabbath successfully update to a NWOBM sound, but a lot of fans argued it wasn't a real Sabbath record without Ozzy. In any case, H&H was probably the only listenable album in all the bazillions of LPs they made after 1975.
>>61286308
>going on an anonymous image board
>thinking anyone will care what you did in another thread
>>61290716
>but a lot of fans argued it wasn't a real Sabbath record without Ozzy
Bill Ward certainly thinks it isn't.
>>61289101
WHY THEY PUT THE DICK IN THE PUSSY!?!
>>61286849
I honestly agree with you. It sounds like a homeless man sitting in a puddle of his own piss mumbling to himself while a band jams in the background and that was likely the EXACT thing they were going for.
>>61284751
eh. Doesn't deserve the hate, but also doesn't deserve any praise.
>>61286849
This was okay.
>>61288805
Overrated if anything.
>>61290657
>implying /mu/ doesn't love Three Cheers
This album is posted at least twice a day
>>61290888
Most people outside of /mu/ dismiss MCR as edgy teenager shite.
>>61290716
The problem is more that Sabbath stopped setting any trends or influencing anything after the early 70s. All those classic tunes (War Pigs, Paranoid, Iron Man) that influenced generations of rock groups are from 70-75. By the time of H&H, they were just riding fads like NWOBM rather than creating new ones.
>>61290863
who could hate this? unless you're a hardcore rap traditionalist this album is fucking great, the beats are transcendent
>>61290716
H&H is a masterpiece compared to the shit they put out later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9kJF7xwrhs
This isn't Black Sabbath, it's generic 80s hair metal.
>>61286849
For those who haven't heard this, imagine your senile grandpa reciting some 15 year old Goth's vile poetry while incredibly bland, shitty, but effective heavy metal riffs play in the background.
>>61286849
This album reminds me of TMR desu.
It's not as fucking weird but the vocals and the instruments...
>>61291127
So they're gonna retire now because Iommi has cancer and apparently back pain as well, so he just can't take the rigors of touring anymore.
>>61291844
Well, sort of. Ozzy said Sabbath were done as a touring and recording act although he didn't discount the possibility that they may still do one-off gigs at festivals or whatever. He'll probably also continue his solo stuff since he has a continuously changing lineup of younger musicians to work with while Sabbath are old and fixed-lineup.
>>61292089
It's too bad Bill Ward couldn't be bothered to play on 13 or the final tour.
>>61292101
I don't think Ward still has any playing skills left in him. He lost it at least 20 years ago. Certainly during the reunion tour in the late 90s, he was pretty ass. The classic Sabbath songs are very percussion-heavy and he just can't pull it off anymore.
>>61292089
Ozzy had said "I'm almost fucking 68. It might be time we quit. There's no point in going on and getting steadily worse and worse for another sackful of cash."
I can see his point why he doesn't want to follow the lead of the Strolling "Yeah we're probably still gonna be doing this when we're 80" Bones.
>>61284823
What's the name of the kid cudi song where it kind of sounds like a blink 182 song or something and then the chorus has a hook in it where he sings the last line or two really high pitched and it's like the exact same hook as some other famous song from the past?
>>61292150
Too bad considering the jazz drummers like Rich and Blakey that were still demolishing the skins in their 60s.
>>61292265
Bill Ward is an overweight alcoholic; the guy didn't exactly take good care of himself.
Ringo Starr hasn't lost it. Even Ginger Baker is still pretty good despite some physical limitations.
"Black Sabbath [Warner Bros, 1970]
This album epitomizes all the worst aspects of the counterculture on a plastic platter - drug-impaired reaction times, bullshit necromancy, lengthy solos. They claim to oppose war, but if I don't believe in loving my enemies, then I sure don't believe in loving my allies either and I feared something like this would happen ever since I first saw a numerology column in an underground newspaper. C-"
>>61284751
you're literally wrong.
Do you like forcing shitty fucking memes like a degenerate faggot with nothing to do?
You do? Good. The first step towards being a better person is acknowledging you're a piece of shit.
Your "hate" meme has never been funny. Never will. Nobody scrolls down the catalog, sees your post and laughs. They fucking ignore it. Why? Because you're a pathetic little 9gag crossposting memester with nothing better to do besides force shitty memes on an anonymous imageboard. Get a life. Go outside. Stop making fucking threads about a fucking buttrock band being death metal. We're sick of this. I'm sick of this." meme has never been funny. Never will. Nobody scrolls down the catalog, sees your post and laughs. They fucking ignore it. Why? Because you're a pathetic little 9gag crossposting memester with nothing better to do besides force shitty memes on an anonymous imageboard. Get a life. Go outside. Stop making fucking threads about a fucking buttrock band being death metal. We're sick of this. I'm sick of this.
But you know what? No. I won't stop there. Have you ever sat down and thought, "I could be productive?" Have you? If you haven't then here's a newsflash. In that time it took to create this thread you could have called that one girl that looks at you longingly and request a date. But no, you post a fucking "hate" thread. Ever stop to think about what you could be doing if you didn't waste your life away in your parents' basement posting memes?
You could be an astronaut. You could be the CEO of a profitable company. You could be rich. Or, instead, you chose to post memes.
That said, It's cover does kinda look like anime. Fuck off, meme poser
Haters gonna hate, but if this came out in 1995, he was black, and wasn't a wrestler you people would be all on his dick.
>>61292564
Alright, who wrote this?
I'm assuming it's from the release year.
Heroin Chic might be the band's objective low point and it certainly doesn't feel as well thought out as the other albums but it's got a looser, rockier vibe to it that's unlike their other albums and, on its own merits, is listenable enough.
>>61292608
I don't think Black Sabbath's debut was too well received at the time of release. It's impact was more of an "after the matter" sort of thing.
>>61292608
Who do you think? Everyone's favorite troll music critic.
>>61292645
Definitely not. Sabbath, especially in America, were seen as a curiosity more than anything. They didn't sing about cars or girls or the usual rock subjects and didn't play the big arenas or have a huge, committed fanbase like Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones.
This so fucking hard.
Yeah, it made its mistakes. It should've ended about 2 or 3 songs sooner than it did and Club America should never have happened, but I will always maintain that Want is one of their best songs and other tracks like This Is A Lie, Mint Car, Gone!, and Numb are quite good. On top of that it's probably one of the band's more ambitious efforts thanks to the considerable presence of string and brass ensembles. I'd honestly call this one a mid-tier effort from the band. They've definitely had better, but they've also definitely had worse.
>>61292691
>>61292645
They didn't sell a lot of records, though their influence on the rock world was noticed rather early on; in fact Blue Oyster Cult were pretty much America's answer to BS. If you listen to some 70s Rolling Stones tracks like Dancing With Mr. D, it does seem they were taking a cue from Sabbath (and perhaps Alice Cooper).
Xgau always had it in for Sabbath because he's a committed punk who thinks rock should be as simple, direct, and raw as possible.
>>61292770
Yeah. I enjoy wild mood swings from time to time. It's basically their "The Top" album of the 90s.
>>61284751
>>61286849
Agreed ~
Pic related too
>>61292823
>Xgau always had it in for Sabbath because he's a committed punk who thinks rock should be as simple, direct, and raw as possible.
If you want to know exactly where he's coming from, his review of Nevermind sums it up.
"For years, the Seattle scene produced dozens of bands that circulated their music on cassettes and which almost nobody had ever heard of. Now at last, they've figured out how to write songs. This is hard rock as it was generally understood to be before metal moved in. And the band makes it seem so easy that it's a shame the lesson will all be forgotten again in a few years. A-"
>>61291189
The title track on this album is their best song
>>61292894
Pic related too.
People don't give enough credit to pablo honey, it's actually a fantastic britpop album
Also pic related is 8/10 tier in my opinion
>>61292906
I dunno about "fantastic" but it's certainly not bad. Hell, the last minute and a half of Blow Out could easily be considered one of the band's peak guitar moments. Still, the rest of the band's discography is so good that PH just doesn't measure up in comparison. If PH is good then the band hit greatness at lightning fast speeds and held onto it.
http://www.bkmag.com/2015/03/02/the-deans-list-robert-christgaus-10000-opinions/
Wow he's looking old these days.
"In the coming weeks, he’s juggling teaching two courses at NYU (“someone wrote the phrase ‘word entrepreneur’ in a paper, and I said, ‘please, not here’”), his regular review column Expert Witness, now published at Medium, and publishing his memoir, Going Into the City, which he sums up in the introduction as “I Am Not a Big Deal and This Happened To Me Anyway.”
Also some grueling schedule for a guy in his 70s.
>>61292936
It's true other Radiohead albums are better, but The Bends is not better by a large margin imo
>>61292963
"“I believe that my appetite’s been crucial,” Christgau said. “Chief among my virtues is I don’t get bored. People can like what they like and have the emotions they do, and that’s fine. It’s reasonable to shut off at a certain point, and say, ‘That’s an adventure I don’t want to have.’ But if they objectify it and say, ‘Oh, music is terrible now.’ That’s intellectually weak. To say, ‘the music is bad because I don’t like it’? That’s stupid. Critics who do that, those are hacks. I have no respect for that at all.”
Whoawhoawhoa, Bob. You say you don't respect critics who call music bad because they don't personally like it. This from the guy who spent literal decades shitting on metal groups solely because he happens to dislike that particular genre.
>>61292924
>hated
>>61292593
John Cena's theme is legitimately one of the best hip-hop songs I've heard.
>>61293002
It's rated only 2.72 in rym, that is a really really low score
>>61292987
I think it does everything PH attempted with greater maturity on top of some fantastic, spacey guitar effects. It's a pretty clear-cut improvement if you ask me. Still not quite the Radiohead of the late 90's/early 2000's but considerable strides in quality were taken on The Bends regardless.
>>61293006
RYM also has a goddamn NOFX EP in their all-time top 50 highest rated.
>>61293020
Pablo Honey has a really authentic and genuine feel to it that i absolutely love. The Bends is also a genuine album, but, the qualities it brings to the table are quite different than pablo honey.
I do agree The Bends is better, but again, i don't think it's better by a large margin.
>>61293032
Holy shit, he's not kidding. An EP consisting of one 18-minute song.
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/ep/nofx/the_decline/
>>61293325
98% of people who heard this album as a teenager think it's good though. Barely 20 seconds goes by without a line that wouldn't shake your average 16 year old to his core.
>>61293335
It's still my favourite album of all time even though the internet has made me more pretentious about music.
It literally rocked my 16 year old brain and I can still put it on and jam to Holiday and give a middle finger to the American Flag.
God I love this album.
>>61293196
I agree with this one. Even the fans of the band hate this album.
>>61293325
agreed. almost 23 and i know the two longest songs, american idiot, holiday, st. jimmy, whatsername on the drum kit.
NO SHAME
>>61293196
On that note, here's a little cringe just for you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ODcqC7s9N4
>>61293366
Reminder that this guy gave the last albums from Avenged Sevenfold and Hinder a 9/10 and 7/10 respectively.
This is actually just a guilty pleasure thread. Or maybe almost everyone here is just musically retarded, but I like to be optimistic.
>>61293366
>2:46
And I'm one of them. I'd go so far as to say it's their only sincerely good album that doesn't lean on nostalgia or actively being 12. Not that it's a flawless record mind you - it's only slightly less hamfisted than their typical affairs - but at the same time it's a faintly experimental and conceptual album from a band abso-fucking-lutely no one expected to be experimental or conceptual in the slightest. It also doesn't hurt that I generally prefer LP's brooding to their angst and the album does play ultimately play out like a less bland Minutes to Midnight which was a broodfest. Still, some legitimately decent cuts came of this like Waiting For The End, When They Come For Me, and The Catalyst. And I've even seen people who despise LP praise Wisdom, Justice, and Love.
>>61293397
We posting guilty pleasures now? I thought the point was to essentially post underrated albums but I can do guilty pleasures too.
>>61293325
This album was the end of an era, the last of the blockbuster mega rock albums and the end of a tradition going back to Sgt. Pepper. Rock started quickly fading from mainstream commercial relevance after AI and has yet to recover.
>>61293448
Meh, I'd say My Chemical Romance's The Black Parade was the end of that era. That album was pretty much the last one that seriously took the world by storm with the young generation.
>>61293448
Now that you mention it, there really hasn't been any major blockbuster rock albums like AI since...well, AI. I wonder why that is.
>>61293443
Oh god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhE4wdzDso8
1. "Legendary punk songs"
2. WHAT THE FUCK WHY WOULD A BENEVOLENT GOD ALLOW SUCH A TRAVESTY TO WALK THE FACE OF THE EARTH
>>61293464
The rock scene in North America just...died after 2005. It's still healthy in Latin America and Europe, but not here. I think record companies got cheap and lazy because it takes more time to develop a rock group than a pop singer. Britney Spears was a superstar before turning 20 while rock groups on average hit their peak around 27.
>>61293509
That's not entirely true. Sum 41 got big when they were 19.
But yeah, pretty much the only 'rock' (debatable) band to get big in the last 5 years was Imagine Dragons, and the only 'rock' (still debatable) bands from the past that still reliably make hits are Fall Out Boy and Maroon 5.
>>61293525
Man real talk Imagine Dragons are pretty dece. Last album was kinda trash but their debut was pretty damn good, especially the bonus tracks.
>>61290657
>>61290888
This album is fucking incredible tho. Every song is a 10/10 imo.
>>61293539
I never really had anything against ID, but it's never sat well with me that they're basically the face of 2010's rock in the mainstream. Every potential opponent has been given One Hit Wonder status (AWOLNATION, Bastille, and it may be too early to say but I'm gonna go ahead and add Walk the Moon).
>>61293525
>That's not entirely true. Sum 41 got big when they were 19
I mean, yeah Metallica were not yet 25 when they made all their classic albums, but in general it is the magic 27 when a band peaks. Although even in Metallica's case, they were in their late 20s-early 30s at the peak of their commercial/cultural relevance.
Other bands that got big when they had really young members were Motley Crue and Led Zeppelin however both of them had a guitarist who was closer to 30 and could bring more experience/maturity to the table that the other guys didn't have.
>>61293325
This album is still fantastic though.
>>61293557
Oh yeah, and fun., but they went on hiatus this year. Neon Trees was an earlier one but they're pretty much a two-hit wonder.
>>61293561
Black album was way after their peak and it's still a great album. Lauded by critics, but for some reason hated by a lot of fans.
>>61293557
>>61293570
Also Orianthi, Of Monsters and Men, Capital Cities, The Neighbourhood, American Authors, Rixton, and Magic!.
>>61289131
the only person i've heard say this is em's best album was tyler the creator.
And tyler is uniquely hipster when it comes to rap and music in general.
There's definitely some good tracks on this album, but the album as a whole doesn't amount up to the masrshall mathers LP
What I think at least.
>>61293616
The Neighbourhood released a fucking hip hop mixtape last year.
It was actually really great. Best thing they've ever done.
>>61293573
>Lauded by critics
Didn't Xgau just give TBA a bomb with no further explanation or context?
>>61293448
For some reason, Millenials just failed to take up the torch of rock from boomers and Gen X. I could speculate why that is, but there's no point in it.
So basically the opinion thread? oh wait i'm on /mu/. what am I thinking.
>>61293627
Christgau is a literal fucktard who thinks summing up an album in a sentence or two counts as journalism. He's a literal hack. I don't know how he made a career out of it.
>>61293637
And on the other hand you have Pitchfork who think more words = better.
Honestly for all the shit allmusic gets, I think they have some of the best reviews.
>>61293561
Black Sabbath were <25 when they peaked. By their late 20s, they were a bunch of washed-up drug addicts. So they were one case where the 27 rule didn't apply.
>>61293644
There's nothing wrong with allmusic at all. Pitchfork is also notoriously known for changing reviews, deleting them, changing ratings. So I don't trust them at all.
>>61293648
They were a unique kind though. They were literally spending more money on drugs than their tours cost. There's countless articles about it. Ozzie is literally messed up from it all. I'm surprised people like him, Keith Richards, Mick Jagger and the like are still alive.
>>61293680
Keith only did pharmaceutical-grade coke and heroin. Also it's mindbending that Ozzy is still walking around breathing and outlived Dio who was a health nut that took great care of himself.
>>61293702
I'm not at all glorifying drugs, but just because you do a shit ton of them doesn't mean you'll die any sooner. And I pretty much hate most drugs. People like Dio just copped a raw deal from life.
>>61293644
I remember P4K's awful review of Lateralus.
Not because it was a low score, but 2/3 of the review was some unnecessary story from the eyes of a poor, naive Tool fan. Also, one of the various things used to pad the review was the complete fucking drumkit list used on the album.
If it was just the 2-3 paragraph review of the album I wouldn't care but it's a short review pretending to be longer because P4K thinks that longer=smarter.
>>61293702
>>61293717
"I get all my exercise by walking to the funerals of my more athletic friends."
-- Mark Twain
>>61293729
Kek.
>>61293724
>look this review up
>Brett DiCrescenzo
Sounds about right. That guy's off his rocker. His review of Kid A is part of the reason that album is /mu/core.
>I had never even seen a shooting star before.
>>61293702
>Also it's mindbending that Ozzy is still walking around breathing and outlived Dio who was a health nut that took great care of himself
Well, that's kind of debatable. I mean, Dio died of stomach cancer and by his own account, he never ate that much so it's probable that the stress of touring and an inadequate diet killed him. I'm just playing armchair doctor here, but stress does cause you to overproduce stomach acid and that combined with not eating enough food to absorb your digestive juices could quite possibly do something to you.
So you can be health-conscious yet still do it the wrong way and end up screwing yourself over. Steve Jobs anyone?
>>61293724
>>61293749
Isn't Lateralus meant to be their magnum opus though?
>>61293774
Steve Jobs was a fuckwit though. His vegan diet to help his cancer was making him even sicker. Apparently Ashton Kutcher said when he went on the diet to for the "Jobs" film it made him sick or something like that.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/08/ashton-kutcher-i-was-hospitalized-becoming-steve-jobs/
>>61293749
That review is a parody, btw.
>>61293702
>Keith only did pharmaceutical-grade coke and heroin
Coke and heroin are actually pretty harmless if they're clean and free of impurities; unfortunately most of the stuff people get high on has some pretty vile substances in it that really ruin your body. And then you end up with Krokodil literally causing people's flesh to fall off in chunks.
>>61293724
The full fucking list:
Drums, Sonor Designer Series (bubinga wood): 8x14 snare (bronze), 8x8 tom, 10x10 tom, 16x14 tom, 18x16 floor tom, two 18x24 bass drums.
Cymbals, Paiste: 14" Sound Edge Dry Crisp hi-hats, 6" signature bell over 8" signature bell, 10" signature splash, 24" 2002 China, 18" signature full crash, #3 cup chime over #1 cup chime, 18" signature power crash, 12" signature Micro-Hat, 22" signature Dry Heavy ride, 22" signature Thin China, 20" signature Power crash.
Electronics: Simmons SDX pads, Korg Wave Drum, Roland MC-505, Oberheim TVS.
Hardware: Sonor stands, Sonor, Axis or Pro-Mark hi-hat stand, Axis or Pearl bass drum petals with Sonor or Pearl beaters (loose string tension, but with long throw).
Heads: Evans Power Center on snare batter (medium high tuning, no muffling), G2s on tom batters with G1s underneath (medium tuning with bottom head higher than batter), EQ3 bass drum batter with EQ3 resonant on front (medium tuning, with EQ pad touching front and back heads).
Sticks: Trueline Danny Carey model (wood tip).
That took up like 1/4 of the "review".
>>61293780
Yes, and it was given a 1.9/10 and an overly-padded condescending review. Honestly, the summary for the review on Lateralus' Metacritic page is all you need to read, it's pretty much the only serious thing said about the album in the review.
>>61293774
That's what killed Freddie King although he was much younger than Dio when he kicked it so maybe not a 1:1 comparison, but he didn't eat enough and instead just chugged Bloody Marys so he got ulcers and dropped dead in his 40s.
>>61293807
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6656-kid-a/
If it's a parody then Pitchfork themselves are in on the joke.
>>61293812
I'll check it out thanks.
>>61293796
>eating three berries and a spoonful of honey a day because he read it on some hippie website
What are you, a bird?
>>61293853
Despite what DiCrescenzo spits out, it really is a great album.
Unless you're allergic to 5/4 time signature, in which case stay far away. They REALLY like that time.
>>61293863
I like Tool already. I don't really listen to them, but I have friends who are big fans, and my sister enjoys them too. I never trust pitchfork with any reviews ever. It's like looking at their reviews for classic albums and the scores are perfect 10/10s. Like I'm sure they're all huge fans of it just because it's been deemed a classic. It's definitely catered at pretentious hipsters and people who think they're somehow cultured by consuming media.
>>61293861
Steve Jobs in fact could have easily beaten cancer if he'd not been an idiot because he had a bile duct tumor which is simple to treat as compared to pancreatic adreonocarcinoma which has a nearly 100% mortality rate with estimated remaining life expectancy of the patient being about two years. Jobs had first been diagnosed with a tumor in the early 2000s and lived almost a decade with it. The condition only got to the point of unrecoverability because he didn't get it treated.
>>61293561
I read an early Rob Halford interview from the 70s where he says "I am currently 26. We're all around that age and generally speaking, the point where a band reaches its peak. I looked up the ages of various rock musicians and found this to be true in most cases. I think this is the age where you've about gotten past youthful immaturity and know how to carry yourself."
>>61293887
That's because he's a dead set fuckwit. Some smart people do the stupidest things.
>>61294097
>youthful immaturity
It's strange how ridiculously true it is. Although some bands somehow manage to write incredible lyrics even in their very early twenties, or even before then. It's rare though.
>>61294097
He was wrong in a good way. They stayed good until Turbo.
>>61294132
And then got good again with Painkiller.
>>61294132
>>61294144
That's debatable since Priest as a studio act peaked in the late 70s. As a live act, 80s but they weren't really making groundbreaking, innovative music anymore by the time of SFV. Most of their songs that influenced the metal scene in a big way were those 70s tracks like Sinner and Exciter.
And Painkiller? That was more of a desperation move because thrash bands were making them look like dinosaurs although it did prove fairly influential on the 90s metal scene, also the JP album that's most popular with the younger generation of metal fans who'd find stuff like Vengeance too antiquated.
>>61286849
Just because they achieved what they were going for doesn't make it good. Otherwise Apator would be good too.
Not criticizing the album, only heard two tracks which I kinda liked, just saying.
