What are the common political and general beliefs of those in the current, modern "punk" scene? Every self-described punk that I've met recently seems to subscribe to liberal Democrat politics and general tumblr politics like telling others what they can and can't say, which seems very contradictory to what punk was about in the first place.
Can anybody who's a part of this please enlighten me?
Depends if you mean the actual, proper punk scene or the "punk" scene.
The former is largely a libertarian leftist perspective.
The latter is a racial/gender politics focused mish-mash of liberal and socialist principles.
>>66475140
I imagine there's more than one "scene". The punks that I'm familiar with are leftists, and wouldn't consider the dems to be left leaning at all.
Also gender politics etc isn't antithetic to punk ethos. Punk is supposed to be anti establishment. If your establishment is sexist and racist, then asking people not to use slurs isn't anti free speech. These people are striking back at things that hurt their communities.
Punk is dead m8
If you're talking about fashionistas that coopted the whole Westwood/mclaren bit then you're probably going to get a lot of daft lil ninnys fucking about with identity politics and a poor understanding of marxism and anarchy.
Ever seen Decline of the Western Civ? Not many Darby Crashes running around are there?
But really people who still consider themselves punks nowadays? There's a few but they all killing themselves so I mostly call them suicidial nihilists. Is drug addiction a form of politics?
Nobody gives a shite and if they do, they prolly ain't very punk m8.
>>66475390
>These people are striking back at things that hurt their feelings.
Fixed that for you.
>>66475486
Not really. The thing you have to understand about slurs is that for a person they don't target, there's no negative association. But for people they do target, the association is usually these slurs are being screamed at you while people try to beat the shit out of you.
>>66475537
I've had plenty of slurs screamed at me and I have not once had the shit beat out of me and, since I'm not a pussy, I don't whine about people using these slurs.
>>66475486
>>66475140
So your problem is you want to be a racist, sexist piece of shit without people in the punk scene calling you out for it?
Name one thing that is more dead than punk
>>66475593
Nah, that's just your assumption. I don't give a fuck about the punk scene, anyway, based on what I've seen lately.
>>66475574
punk tends to promote ideals many would consider "pussy" while they try their best to not come off as pussies about it
>>66475611
My childhood dog.
>>66475629
And the punk scene doesn't give a fuck about bigots like you
>>66475574
Are you a straight white guy? I'm only asking because there aren't really any slurs that are specific to that group. You can be called slurs that are directed towards other groups, but it's not the same thing.
>>66475679
You're proving my point. You're just a sensitive child who can't handle people saying things that you don't agree with, which is the antithesis of what punk used to be. You've assumed that I'm a bigot because...I actually don't know how you made that assumption. Maybe you're just an idiot.
Fuck off.
>>66475684
This is what I'm talking about. Tumblr politics.
>>66475755
You didn't answer the question. A straight man being called a faggot because the other guy doesn't like him is radically different from a gay man being called a faggot while holding hands with his boyfriend. Usually the latter case involves some physical violence as well.
>>66475855
so, the problem really isn't slurs, it's physical violence then.
>>66475855
I'm not straight, but that's not relevant. I have plenty of good anecdotal evidence that what you're claiming isn't true.
