What are some metal bands heavily unfluenced by classical western music? I.E.
What are some classical european composers that anticipated metal's sound?
Pic related.
>>66460043
John Michael Osbourne
I don't think you know what i.e. means.
Anyway, Haggard and Wagner, respectively, are the easy picks.
>>66460043
>What are some metal bands heavily unfluenced by classical western music?
Necrophagist, particularly the epitaph album - has quotations of beethoven and prokofiev
Der Golem - did a cover of Stravinsky's Le Sacre
>What are some classical european composers that anticipated metal's sound?
Stravinsky's Le Sacre / the rite of spring - 1912
Mendelssohn's shredding - string quartets, piano conceri, etc.
Paganini's shredding - 24 caprices for solo violin
Penderecki - Threnody for the victims of hiroshima (not that any metal band ever reached his level of dissonance or aleatoricism, but surely an influence)
i just want metal or literally any other genre, (could be classical too) with the same sound as some of rach's moment musicaux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQw3DvqEbxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFUhZalQks
>>66460043
That's not what i.e. means you dip.
There's some jap neo-classical metal band that's pretty neat.
>4:33
>8:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo10HFEfRo4
>>66461648
>>66462379
These really
Rhapsody too but it's more a kitschfest
>>66460043
Mekong Delta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HU1URlyke0
Bartok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmkDMTU-hb4
>>66464154
I don't think anything is as good as this anon
>>66460043
stop being a plen desu
which means stop listening to metal
Children of bodom
>What are some metal bands heavily influenced by classical western music?
Obligatory pic related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsh9xzTCFRk
>>66460043
Well, Black Sabbath's Geezer Butler was very influenced by Gustav Holst, and Vivaldi's Four Seasons inspired Voivod's Nothingface.
>>66465156
Excellent contribution to the discussion, my friend. Your work here has really helped /mu/ to be an exceptional community for discussing all kinds of music.
>>66465172
>all that build-up
>when 5:24 hits
greatest feeling desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8v4xFvATy0
>>66465157
CHTPT
>>66464154
Yeah, this is pretty much Dragonforce but slower, you should check them out.
![313e9201c1d65497c1fe54ac5533486e[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6W2tPLm.jpg "313e9201c1d65497c1fe54ac5533486e[1].jpg")
>>66464154
please send help, where does one find music like this?
also, i've been playing piano for a while, i fancy myself kind of good, but not this kind of good. it's just chilling to watch some girl who looks like she washes dishes for a living perform something like this.
>>66465935
just... please don't compare this to dragonforce, please don't.
>>66465935
get out
>>66466100
the closest i can think of are the fastest pieces of chopin but i'm not very knowledgeable in art music desu
>>66466109
forgot pic
>>66466133
ye, i know, some of the scherzo's have some passages, it's similar in some parts but not really the same texture, rach is just kind of dark and desparish like no other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x-y2DuHSec
you can skip to 6:00 to listen to the build up to the coda
>>66464154
The closest kind of metal I can think that sounds similar to that are a bunch of neoclassical power metal groups, though neoclassical power metal puts more emphasis on violins than they do pianos.
>>66466494
post examples anon, if you got any
>>66466540
not him but if we're talking about the best neoclassical power metal bands there's galneryus but they're not really like what you want. somebody already posted them ITT >>66464267
>>66466599
Seconding this, some of the best songwriting in metal in general if you can handle cheese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhdI4_PN-rM
>>66466599
stratovarius is pretty good too once you get over the finnish accent.
I always thought moussorgsky's night on a bald mountain could easily be transcribed for a metal band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8
>>66467032
you were right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrhBaOCZ1uA
look no further
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_smqcOTfwY
>>66466638
the music here is not bad at all, but yeah some parts are a bit cheesy, maybe japs just have a hard time faking being doomy, or maybe it just only comes off as a bit fake to westerners?
>>66467953
Japanese power metal in general is very cheesy, though. It's almost a given. Funnily enough, Galneryus is one of the least cheesy Japanese power metal bands. have some ridiculous weeaboo cheese/neo-classical guitar noodling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOaNwi_2M8o
As for doomy the japs have a few good doom groups like greenmachine and church of misery, but j-doom tends to be a lot more traditional and bouncy like Black Sabbath and Pentagram instead of brooding like a lot of modern western doom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDh5g9Q-VsI
>>66465189
Early Rainbow with Dio said they wanted a rock and roll band influenced by classic music
>>66462379
I don't think many metal bands ever heard Penderecki. Perhaps a handful only.
>>66460043
umm
yngwie malmsteen was influenced by bach and guys like that who playd in harmonic minor?
Adding to what everyone said already.
Opera in general, particularly Wagner and Verdi, influenced some metal singers with classical voice training.
Baroque polyphony and counterpoint is also there, listen for instance to Bach's 5th Brandenburg concert and pay attention to the harpsichord solos, in many ways some guitar solos resemble that a lot.
>>66460043
Definitely check out this, OP. A different approach, somewhat dark and psychedelic, if you don't like typical heroic neoclassical/power metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFZN08TBgFg
>>66464154
Scriabin (24 preludes, etudes op 8), Blumenfeld (sur mer, et, Lyapunov (transc etudes), Stanchinsky (sonata 1, canon preludes, studies), Alexandrov (4th sonata and maybe 1 too), Vierne (12 preludes), Bowen (called the English Rachmaninoff), Medtner (nightwind sonata etc)
They're all Rachmaninoff like, some were even close friends to him. Scriabin's your best bet but stick to his early period at first (up to his 4th sonata).
>>66473506
what the hell, i thought this thread was dead for sure, thanks for the recommendations
>>66460043
Rivers Cuomo
>>66460043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka8mTjVpkLI&t=18m37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPjFjUonX8&t=27m37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6osJBtQRjoY&t=19m45s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkXyE9CZ_lk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nKJoZY64A&t=5m36s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9s5HIqrv-M&t=6m58s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke9DX3CUoIU&t=21m55s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIP1YoPAeyM
