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R.I.P.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Too high
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>>66422245
>According to Hunt-Hendrix, the music is supposed to mix acid house, industrial noise, and glitch with Southern rap. A best-case-scenario result might be “Tim Hecker meets Bone Thugs-N-Harmony,” or somewhere near Dälek or Death Grips. It opens with “Mea Culpa” a short instrumental intro, that sounds like an action sequence in a Z-grade sci-fi horror film: Jason X, maybe, or Battlefield Earth. After this inauspicious start, we're treated with the first track with, uh, art shaman rapping, “Tense Stage.” It’s almost impossible to catch what he says, and once his voice enters, notes and noises get splattered like a bucket of paint thrown from a skyscraper window. If you expect to glean any knowledge from Hunt-Hendrix’s lyrics, perhaps in order to harness 01010n’s light ....don’t, because as he’s said in the past: “I just free-associate prophetic nonsense, and then I find a way to deliver it.”

HHH BLOWN THE FUCK OFF
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Good thing i never liked it anyway.

Now excuse me while i delete it from my HD
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>>66422307
>The album’s two best songs are very short tracks like “Bezel,” which utilizes washes of static paired up against claustrophobic keys and spare organ notes, or “NMWE” the only palatable vocal track because it is completely muted. The greatest musical offense that can be found in NILOTSOTQ is its centerpiece “Ontological Love.” It is the album's longest song, coming in at ten minutes, and the most Southern rap influenced and rap heavy piece on the album as well. Strange approximations of Mike WiLL Made-It’s murky drum machine whacks and whimsical synth arpeggiations occupy the entire space of the first three minutes. And when he does start singing, almost five minutes have passed by, and his badly processed voice comes off as nasally and out of focus. He screams the chorus (“Ontological love!”) in a robotic monotone that is equally lifeless and clownish. It’s purposefully confusing and uncomfortable, without any actual goal in mind.

S A V A G E
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>>66422245
TRIPLE HHH BTFO BY THE WEIRD FRONTIER
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LINK
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>>66422245
It's on Spotify, get listening to it, raise your spirit.
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>not even Pitchfork can get behind this shit
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what will TMT give it?
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>>66422342
who are those
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>>66422430
shit thats who
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he's too white for p4k
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>>66422442
yeah but what kind of shit specifically
those are the pitchfork reviewers? i see some qts there. i dont want to fap to pitchfork ppl
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So music journalism and popular music plebs can't appreciate thoughtful art.

SHOCKING

LET'S MAKE A THREAD
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>>66422484
here's some thoughtful art for you

*farts*
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>>66422430
FROM TOP LEFT FOR ALL THE PLEBS

1. Bruno mars
2. Chris Martin
3. Paramore girl
4. Mac De Marco
5. Adam Driver
6. Danny brown
7. Zayn malik
8. Placebo guy
9. Matt bellamy
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this is by the same dude that gave Frankie Cosmos BNM lol
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>>66422484
>HHH
>thoughtful art


lmao
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>>66422484
More like thoughtful farts
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>>66422593
>putting radiohead aomng those
kek
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>>66422245
in other news: Pitchfork ethers "mu" darling. Totally destroyed
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>>66422593
are you implying Lemonade is bad in any sense
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>>66422609
>he thinks AMSP is anything other than a wet fart from an already creatively drained rock group
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>>66422609
AMSP is as uninspired as TLOP, don't kid yourself.

At least Kanye West has the decency of being honest with that.
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>>66422633
nice back pedaling, I recall reading your positive review of it
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>>66422695
Sorry what? I said it was pretty shit. The review's still up.
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>>66422372
>>66422737
https://kelvalhaal.bandcamp.com/releases
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>>66422430
inferior too hhh
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>>66422593
These are all great
Fucking contrarians
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>>66422245
3.5 is way to high, this is like a 1-2 record. Idk who this guy is but 99% chance if he posted it in a SC thread under a diff name he would get shit on hardcore.
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>>66422800
You don't listen to a lot of music, do you?
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>>66422342
who's the guy near lopatin? he's cute.
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>>66422850
I think it's Arca? Looks off.
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>>66422704
"A Moon Shaped Pool is a good album, maybe even a great album."
you're such an insincere piece of shit
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Truly psychedelic, truly outrageous.
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>>66422826
oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that I can't enjoy popular music unless I don't know anything about music.
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>>66422866
lol
boldfailure btfo yet again
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>>66422866
Nice job posting out of context quotes.
Next time read more.
>>66422881
Do you even know what popular music is?
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>plebfork hates it
Aoty confirmed
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>It's a boldfaure is an elitist cunt episode
Practically as bad a tripfag as Montie.
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>>66422960
That's not how it works.
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>>66422998
Actually quite often it is.
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Does anyone have it in FLAC?
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>>66423018
Yeah.
It's $7.
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>>66423022
what a silly response
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have you guys even listened to it or are you shitposting? it's the most original electronic trap album i've ever listened to in my entire life

Toshimaru Nakamura would be proud
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>>66423018
Spotify, numbnuts.
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Good, now we know that only P4K-drones hate the albums.

Also I want everyone to realize that they gave Kid Cudi's Speedin' Bullet 2 Heaven a higher score than this.
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the instrumental to ontological love is nice imo
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>>66423088
>Spotify
>lossless
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>>66423007
Pitchfork shouldn't have anything to do with deciding your AOTY, and liking something because someone else doesn't is a shitty reason.
>>66423070
It's interesting but H^3 should not have rapped. His voice is really weak and it would have been more interesting to hear the vocals perfomed like his Liturgy stuff. I'm considering buying it.
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>>66423121
Hi batboy!
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>>66423128
>Pitchfork shouldn't have anything to do with deciding your AOTY
It doesn't, but it's an undeniable trend.
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>>66423130
?
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"A Moon Shaped Pool is a good album, maybe even a great album."
">he thinks AMSP is anything other than a wet fart from an already creatively drained rock group"

the dual-faced nature of a pseudo-intellectual, everyone
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>>66423128
agree 100%. had he gotten some other rapper, perhaps more confident or angrier, it probably wouldve gotten BNM
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holy shit im listening to ontological love its amazing
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>>66423101

>they gave Kid Cudi's Speedin' Bullet 2 Heaven a higher score than this.

It shows the quality of the HHH project
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>>66423140
How's those high frequencies nobody else can hear?
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>>66422245
This is one of the most innovative electronic albums in existence.
This will be critically acclaimed in 20 years
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>>66423128
>>66423179
>not getting the point of his vocal intonation
stay pleb

never has a musician made this daring of a statement on the current state of society
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>>66422484
you're such a dumbass hahahaha
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>>66423101
i hate pitchfork and think their reviews are incredibly pretentious and, in some cases, objectively wrong (ahem, frances the mute)

with that being said, NILOTSOTQ is really quite shit and only further proof that HHH's stupid philosophy and mythos is far from genius or infalliable
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>>66422909
lol you're actually really stupid. keep posting.
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>>66423272
in order for me to take your opinion seriously you have to prove that you know what his philosophy and mythos is and what his intentions are musically

go ahead, ill be waiting
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>>66423263
Care to enlighten me or are you just shit posting? I genuinely want to know for mixed reasons.
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like i would trust any publication that gives a positive review to how to dress well
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>>66423350
>spoonfeed me
if you dont get something then your opinions on it are useless therefore you shouldnt share them with anyone

literally everyone in this thread thats hating on the music has no idea what it's about. if you prove to people that you know what this is about then maybe your opinion would be of worth, until then stick to posting in radiohead and julia holter threads where the music is 1. approved by publications and 2. does not require intellectual foresight to be able to decipher its intentions

>inb4 tibs fedora xD
>inb4 bait
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This is who you all choose to get your musical opinions from...
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Ontological Love sounded pretty neat for the first 5 minutes, but I burst out laughing as soon as Triple H started singing.
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>>66423417
No, because the point of life isn't to accommodate others, but to do what you want to do, so there's nothing wrong with sharing an opinion, or telling you to be quiet and that your opinion is wrong even if you know what you're talking about.
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>>66423334
i do not have a full understanding of them because i do not bother to read his philosophy.

my critique was not with his literature but with his intentions. he believes his philosophy can guide his writing process and thus create meaningful and thoughtful work simply because of it.

he does this at the expense of actually pleasing, listenable music. perhaps electronic, glitch southern rap is not the best vehicle to preach one's newfangled philosophy.
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>>66423494
>he does this at the expense of actually pleasing, listenable music.
...
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>>66423447
that was the best part
the whole album needed more rapping and straightforward dance beat oriented moments
too much filler
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>>66423505
Aestethica is good.

Kel Valhaal is not.
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>>66423529
>he hasn't listened to The Ark Work
>he thinks his opinion on Liturgy is relevant
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>>66423536
>he thinks The Ark Work is good
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3.5/10 is generous
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>>66423554
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/boldfaure/rating67101241
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>>66423570
Fuck off newtrip.
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>>66423536
lolol i've listened to liturgy's entire discog you fool

A>R>TAW>IL
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>>66423593
Renihilation is bland shite, so that's a testament to your lack of taste.
It has no personality and no inspired composition.
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>>66423623
>lack of taste
>likes the Ark Work

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
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>>66423623
I study and teach music at an esteemed college at a complex level, and have done so for the past 30 years. Looking at your Liturgy review just back there, you are objectively wrong on many counts and show a fundamental lack of understanding of what makes a skilled composition. Shush.
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>>66423642
How is TAW bad? At least it isn't mediocre crap like your taste.
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>>66423694
Nice try kid.
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>>66423716
>le gesamtkunstwerk
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>>66423591
>he thinks old trips aren't just as cancerous
Figures, kys please.
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>>66423716
It's bad in a myriad of ways that range from stupid concept, to unimaginative (yes, gimmicky, but unimaginative) composition, but the main issue is that it SOUNDS LIKE SHIT.
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>>66423730
No, I can break it down for you in an essay-style format, why, theoretically (musically) and in a historical sense you are deeply unaware of what you are talking about. Only if you want to learn, though. I don't really like teaching people who are stupid. Are you stupid?
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S L A Y E R
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>>66423753
>unimaginative composition
So you're stealing my term without knowing how to use it? Brilliant!
>>66423761
Go on then.
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>>66423716
You mention the atmosphere it creates.
Describe that atmosphere in a way that makes it sound appealing.
Cause to me it sounds like an idiot dicking around on Ableton and the atmosphere it convokes is that of a college kid's instagram page. Very unappealing
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>>66423816
O.K.
Liturgy do not slay
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daily reminder that boldfailure thinks a shitty MIDI album with some nonsensical MS paint graphs attached constitutes a 'gesamtkunstwerk'
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DOWNLOAD LINK PLEASE
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>>66423417
>"Nobody understands this but me, yet I'm not going to attempt even the slightest bit to explain why is it that I think this is worth defending under the pretense that I shall not spoonfeed anyone."

You haven't proved that you understand it either. Your input on the discussion is as irrelevant and useless as that of those who you claim "don't get it" given the fact that you'd rather assume a position of condescending contempt rather than making a case for your precious art-piece, you belligerent moron.
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>>66423826
>You mention the atmosphere it creates.
Where do I do that? I mean, I guess I see that, but I never recall making any kind of review or anything.
Unless you are talking about Tense Stage where I might have.
>>66423841
You have accomplished nothing musical in your life.
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>>66423493
fuck off idiot
>>66423623
your rym reviews are cringey
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>>66423572
>if I namedrop more than twenty composers, I can fool people into thinking that HHH isn't a talentless hack.
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>>66423894
>spoonfeed me
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>>66423900
>your rym reviews are cringey
Where are yours?
>>66423913
So you didn't read the review?
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>>66423929
>Where are yours?
ask ur mother
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>>66423816
>What creates "classic-status?" I'd like to look at an example or two from art music before revisiting The Ark Work and seeing how it stacks up.
You then proceed to talk about art music, which is irrelevant because The Ark Work is shallowly influenced by this sound and is not actually art music. Immediately this point and the following paragraph is nonsense. Please, educate yourself about the difference between the classical form and amateur rock music that steals from the classical form, but fails to be creative with it.
>through the use of minimalist repetition
Liturgy have never used minimalist practices or ideals.
>medieval chant (in the controversial track "Glass Earth")
Not actually medieval scales.
> and of course some inkling of the Romantic in the harmonies of pieces like "True Will."
Not actually romantic harmonies.
> A heretical person like myself would compare this album to Mozart's 9th Piano Concerto
Yes, heretical, and dumb.
> in that it showed that the group of virtuosos had more going than their technical prowess.
They are not virtuosos in a compositional sense or a technical sense with the exception of the band's percussionist. But he is just skilled, not a virtuoso.
>As Steve Reich understood, you can't have rhythmic, repetitive music without a core pulse.
Nothing of this band is repetitive, and its rhythms are stagnant and uncreative from a theoretical position.
>Both Oneohtrix and Death Grips show up on The Ark Work: the former in MIDI instruments (mixed with live instruments), the latter in "Vitriol."
Wrong again.

Terrible review.
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>>66423899
didn't you write this?
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/boldfaure/rating67101241
>The atmosphere across the record has rarely if ever been accomplished by a rock band, making it absolutely an innovative and unique release.

and in case you didn't follow the stream of this discussion, we are talking about TAW.
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>>66423536
Him ommiting The Ark Work doesn't indicate he hasn't listened to it. He's just contrasting two of his works.
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>>66423929
I did, and it's namedrops after namedrops, as if any vague similarity with classical music could automatically prevent an album from sounding terrible.
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Just listen to some of it now. I thought it was interest albeit the context he puts it in is pretentious. Fun to hear though
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>>66423952
>which is irrelevant because The Ark Work is shallowly influenced by this sound and is not actually art music
This is like saying discussing SMiLE's relation to Bach is irrelevant, even though Brian Wilson was directly quoted as saying Bach is a big influence.
Are you a fraud?
>Liturgy have never used minimalist practices or ideals.
OK
OK
You're definitely a hack fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbvCZFrTks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkc02A3kcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtAH2qC31pQ
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>>66423923
I didn't ask you to spoonfeed me. In fact, I happen to understand it in its entirety. I was just pointing out a flaw in your logic.
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>>66423952
To be fair HHH did state in an interview that he listens to Death Grips.

but if you >>66423929 think that Vitriol sounds ANYTHING like Death Grips you've never listened to DG.
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>>66424001
Now he's taken his trip off to pretend someone agrees with him.
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It's funny how the only people who criticize me don't understand music theory.
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>>66422245
Please let this shitty transcendental meme end
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>>66423998
it's fun in a comedic way.
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>>66424027
I've been going between other boards so I sometimes forget to readd the trip.
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>>66424030
My theory is that you're a TOTAL GEEK
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>>66424040
This
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>>66424030
Music theory is irrelevant.
HHH said that he wanted his music to communicate his feelings, to be beautiful and elevating.
A crucial point you never addressed in your review.
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Kel Valhaal - New Introductory Lectures on the System of Transcendental Qabala
>avantgarde trap, neoprimordial formalism of the third reich
https://mega.nz/#!nUgGXBZS

Key: !Q1WtDc_kyAJVmAxv2A8Vm3QDVABZRK66O-icsQGcYr8
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Why does every HHH release have to be hamfisted with the worst strain of continental philosophy/theory? There is literally no relation between the diagrams and the music
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>>66424073
dont click its a virus
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>>66424060
>you didn't talk about your emotions enough
Oh yes, emotions. The one thing music criticism needs more of.
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>>66424030
I read your trip as "boldfailure"
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>>66424085
>There is literally no relation between the diagrams and the music
Objectively wrong.
I'd copy/paste what I wrote a while back but the archive is garbage nowadays.
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>>66424094
In the case of an emotionally-focused album, you need to address this.

otherwise all your pseudo-historical babbling is WORTHLESS and IRRELEVANT.
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>>66424117
Where are your reviews?
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>>66424129
>only people who review this album are allowed to criticize my review!
Kek
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>>66424129
>need to make X to be able to criticise X

Kill urslef
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>>66424156
No, I'm just wondering why I should take you seriously when you've written nothing on music and have no background in music.
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>>66424176
youre a joke kid
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>>66424129
Here it is:

The ark work is shit because it tries to be beautiful but is ugly and ridiculous instead. it's also shit because it's contrived and artificial when it tries to be an organic whole. it's also offensive because it mashes together heterogenous musical traditions in the clumsiest way possible. Also, HHH's voice is weak as fuck, it's got no sense of solemnity or measure, and it hurts your ears if you listen to it at a normal volume. It's vomit.
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>>66424176
So yes, then?
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>>66424129
Ahahahahaha
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>>66423832
haha how can you listen to Glory Bronze and think that?
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>>66424129
what a fucking joke , why even bother being a trip when you make post like this. DO you have no dignity
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>>66422306
Far too high


dude is a complete fucking hack
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>>66424263
Of course he doesn't, he's a tripfag.
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>>66424187
>because it tries to be beautiful but is ugly and ridiculous instead.
How so?
>it's also shit because it's contrived and artificial when it tries to be an organic whole.
I really don't see how for this.
>it's also offensive because it mashes together heterogenous musical traditions in the clumsiest way possible.
The intention is the combination of disparate influences to gain a better appreciation for how they all interact and reinforce one another.
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>>66422245
Bezel II might be the worst song of the year
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>>66424108
you're "objectively" buying into parody at your own expense. It's clearly a joke and it's on you
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>>66424291
>The intention is the combination of disparate influences to gain a better appreciation for how they all interact and reinforce one another.

Basically throwing shit at a wall and hoping something T R A N C S E N D E N T A L comes out of it
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>>66424254
it doesn't slay though. Some parts of Aesthethica are legitimately uplifting and exciting but you have to force yourself to imagine a situation where it would be fitting to listen to it.
And I think I've found what it's supposed to convey: the feeling of riding a rollercoaster. That's why HHH's old vocals don't sound like an evil goblin, they sound like a guy going "WEEEE! WOOOHOOOO!" cause he's going down a rollercoaster, and the chord progressions and tempo shifts are supposed to reflect that. cause your cart speeds up and slows down and catches momentum before going back up.

But man, it's really a weird feeling to base your music on.
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Is boldfaure autistic
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>>66424339
CREEPING UP INTO THE SKYYYY
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>>66424187
>it tries to be beautiful but is ugly and ridiculous instead
it's both. that duality/internal contradiction is part of the beauty of it, and that you see how it "tries to" basically admits you think there is "beauty", too
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>>66424085
because he's an actual pseudo-intellectual or just a metal troll
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>>66424333
Whatever.
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>>66424291
>The intention is the combination of disparate influences to gain a better appreciation for how they all interact and reinforce one another.
but they weaken one another, in the present case.
There certainly are ways to combine black metal, classical music, rapping, electronic music and all that shit into a coherent and beautiful whole, but HHH hasn't found it.
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>>66424346
That's the only logical conclusion from every thread he enters.
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I wish I had the borderline autistic levels of self-confidence and built in audience that this guy has, then I could release my garbled FL Studio drafts as conceptually important works of transcendental art and swindle the idiots that enjoy this music
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yfw boldfaure thinks he can comment on metal even though he's probably heard a dozen actual metal albums tops
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>>66424372
oh wow, you've really got a solid argument here
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>>66424352
No, you're missing the point of this music.
It doesn't try to evoke some kind of sublimity through monstrosity and clunkiness, like Peste Noire would. It just tries to be beautiful and magnificent. There certainly are crippled hints of beauty in TAW (some chord progressions, some of the MIDI instruments used) but the reason why I'm telling you that it's just trying to be beautiful and moving, is because I've read HHH's interviews where he explains the point of his project and of this album.

if I just had his music to go off on, I might interpret it as a comedy album instead.
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HEY
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I was listening to Bezel II and literally said "what the fuck" out loud
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>>66424497
/blog
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Alright, so I just finished listening to the whole thing. It's like a less good version of Sega Death, except he doesn't have the excuse of the music being randomly generated by malfunctioning Sega cartridges.
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>>66424497
I'm listening right now

ITS STILL GOING
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>>66424447
Liturgy isn't metal.
>>66424463
You don't have one.
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This album is one of the most entertaining things I've listened to in a while. I'm in tears, it's hilarious.
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>>66424539
I don't need to argue that this shit is shit. I know it's objectively shit. I was just noting that you talked tough only to immediately roll over and pout when someone checked you
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Ontological Love is 10 fucking minutes dear god
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>>66424539
And it's not art music either, yet you seem to think that its crude similarities with art music somehow make it worthy of praise.

I'm curious to hear why you aren't eager to say "WOW, IT HAS BLAST BEATS, THAT MEANS IT'S JUST AS GREAT AS EMPEROR AND DISSECTION!"
Because you certainly seem to think that just because it has raps, it's worthy of being compared to Death Grips (even though you don't actually compare them, you assimilate them).
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just sounds like forgettable bleep bloop music to me
I don't get the hype / hate / confusion, this has been done before
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>>66424562
I know, right?
It's the first time music has actually made me laugh out loud without relying on its lyrics.
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>>66424497
BLEEP BLEEP BLOOP BLOOP T T T T T T T T TT T T T TSSHHHHHHHHH BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLOOP
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>>66424602
read the description. It's pretentious as fuck.
it's literally supposed to be the sound of god.
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>>66424487
i see. i remember an interview where he did actually remark how the messiness was kind of intentional but i don't think i could find it. even if I'm mistaken that doesn't change the feeling i get from it
i think the closest to that for me was Sing to God, in some weird way
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>>66424625
>pretentious dude on bandcamp makes dumb album
scoop of the century
I don't get why anyone cares
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>>66424620
And don't forget those vocals.
>WOOEAAAUUUEEUUEAOOOOAAEEEUUGH
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>>66422307
>>66422325
Liturgy is meh tier but this criticism sounds like its from someone thats not that passionate or interested in music. P4k is awful
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>>66424670
this isn't pretentious. It's ADVANCED pretentious.
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>>66424670
before that, he made pseudo-black-metal albums that some people found amazing.
he also made one psych rock album that was okay.

that's it.
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>>66424684
you're projecting like shit
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>>66424684
this isn't Liturgy, it's MUCH worse.
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>>66424720
i think you might be exaggerating a bit anon, i'd rather listen to ontological love and kairos than most anco and sufjan stevens which seem to be musicians that p4k covets
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>>66424755
nigga u retarded
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>>66422612
yes
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>>66424755
ontological love and kairos are by far the most listenable parts of this record though, and P4K's love of AnCo and Sufjan certainly doesn't invalidate their criticism of Kel Valhaal
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>Kel Valhaal is the name of the logical agency of faith and acephalic becoming in the The Ark Work, a gesamtkunstwerk which lives at the threshold between philosophical materialism and religion. It is also the moniker for the electronic project I’ve had going since 2010, though I’ve never done an official release until now. The aim of the project is to activate transcendental catharsis using the elements of sound design, and to gnaw on formal and cultural deadlocks between electronic music, rock, rap and classical music. Ultimately these are means of activating a creative-emotive state of divine intuition that is attuned to the object of ultimate concern: what the mystics call the “gift of tears”.
“If Liturgy is a vehicle for grand rock albums, Kel Valhaal is more low key, more of an ongoing flicker;; less finely wrought, with more frequent and shorter releases, more variation, less consistency, more experimentation.
“This music should be approached as one of three wings of a rotating vortex of music, thought and drama called The Perichoresis. Taking up the legacy of American Transcendentalism and German Romanticism with all its contradictory attraction and repulsion to/from underground music culture, the project has a horizon that is ethical, political, and eschatological. Kel Valhaal in part functions to ground Transcendental Qabala (a system of thought) as is also in part the manifestation of Aesthethics (an art practice). These three wings of the Perichoresis propel the ongoing drama of The Ark Work, which is a messianic intervention into global destiny.

What did he mean by this
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>>66424769
why? anco's only interesting releases are STG and HCTI, everything else is just trite neo-psych or a sad attempt to be experimental (danse manatee)

and sufjan stevens is a bastardization of folk music made for starbucks indie teenagers who havent heard any folk made before the 80s besides bob dylan
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>>66424625
incorrect you are the one positing the existence of a "God"
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>>66424822
>and sufjan stevens is a bastardization of folk music made for starbucks indie teenagers who havent heard any folk made before the 80s besides bob dylan

thank you for this
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>>66424372
How to win an argument:

>Ask "why?" everytime someone says something
>Once they answer, just say "whatever." and walk away
>Masturbate over your victory.
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>>66424802
he meant
>EEEUUUUAAAAEEEUUUGHHHH
>yEUUUUUUWWWWAAAAAGHH >EUUUUEHEUEUEUEUGH
>WEUAAAAA-E-E-E-E-A-E-E-A-E-EUE)E)UEHGH
>GLING >GLIGNGLIGNLIGNGILGINGILIGNDINGDONONGDINGDONG
>BLEEP
>BLOOP
>BLEEBLAABLOOPBLEEPbleepBELOOPBLAAAAP BLOOP
>WOOOOSH
>FAAART FART FART
>T R A P B E A T S
>QUAACK
>PFARFPAFPAAART
>AHGHGHPAFRPRBLEBLEPREFTROEPEEBLEEPGREGEEEBPLEEEPEPPEEPWoowowoowooo
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>>66422593
>>66422593
quick, tell me how good bisch bosh is.
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>>66424589
They're BURST beats you UN-transencended being
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>>66424073
thanks bro
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>>66424847
it's kind of true but he's still a good musician
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>>66424843
>not having read the diagrams and interviews where HHH exposes his mythology
Kel Valhaal is a prophet, he transmits the emanations of god (01010N) through sound.
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>>66422307
Haven't heard the album, but that sounds amazing desu.
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>>66424930
>Alimony
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>>66424935
listen to it, it's pretty short
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>>66424339
>you have to force yourself to imagine a situation where it would be fitting to listen to it.
i don't feel that way. there was a time when i listened to that album at any thinkable occasion, it makes everything you do seem grand and significant in some way, i love it
>And I think I've found what it's supposed to convey: the feeling of riding a rollercoaster.
i do feel this exact same way though, and i think i used that comparison a couple of times on here actually
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>>66424963
Doing that right now.
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>>66424930
It's just a symbolic narrative he's constructed.
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>>66424930
>people like boldfaure unironically take these MS Paint diagrams seriously
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>>66424930
>none of the words are probably centered or aligned
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>>66425015
>>66425025
I'm just explaining you why it's pretentious.
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I would've been fine with The Ark Work if it didn't mention "ADHD kids".
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>>66425025
well he took the time to flip text, it's probably true
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>>66425025
you can take anything you want seriously or not, there's nothing to it. i choose to do that with him because he seems cool
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>>66425143
who, HHH?
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>literally defending a black metal album as a work of fine art
how much of a dumb, middlebrow blowhard do you have to be?
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>Bezel II
ok seriously what the fuck am i listening to
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>>66424030
You don't actually understand music theory yourself and have failed to show any direct knowledge of it, and anyway; as a learned music scholar and teacher an understanding of music theory is irrelevant when discussing subjective preferences. But that doesn't matter because you don't know what romantic harmonies are, or what minimalism is, or what constitutes a medieval scale. Do you actually understand complex music theory or are you just somebody who goes to a college?
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>>66425264
At least I'm not a dumb fucking weeaboo
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>>66425264
The fact that you have an anime reaction image immediately renders your opinions as invalid because you are of a sect of people who enjoy watching that fucking horrible disease of a form of entertainment. Do everyone a favor and hang yourself with a squid you foul-breathed weeaboo loving degenerate piece of shit. I am 96% sure that you currently reek of 2 weeks worth of masturbation sans showers. I cant even begin to imagine what your room would smell like. Open up a window you eye-lidless yellow squid swallower. Please don't open your mouth when you're around other human beings, not that you would ever leave you dungeon of semen-stained anime posters and "action figures".
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>>66422245
>Kel Valhaal is the name of the logical agency of faith and acephalic becoming in the The Ark Work, a gesamtkunstwerk which lives at the threshold between philosophical materialism and religion. It is also the moniker for the electronic project I’ve had going since 2010, though I’ve never done an official release until now. The aim of the project is to activate transcendental catharsis using the elements of sound design, and to gnaw on formal and cultural deadlocks between electronic music, rock, rap and classical music. Ultimately these are means of activating a creative-emotive state of divine intuition that is attuned to the object of ultimate concern: what the mystics call the “gift of tears”.

baby's first attempt at continental theory.
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>>66425339
Wew lad.
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>>66425264
It's not bleck metal at all you retarded weeb
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>>66424930
God farts?
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>>66422342
I know these people are at least marginally talented (some much moreso than others) but their little mafia bugs me
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What HHH think's he's doing vs. what HHH is actually releasing
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>>66425397
I'm talking about the Liturgy albums which are also being discussed ITT
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>>66425467
kek
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>>66425467
the bottom one is much more interesting
i bet you think Probopass is a bad design you absolute plebeian
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>>66425495
it's still not black metal
it's transcendental black metal, which is a subgenre of prog rock.
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>>66425495
>>66425526
It's trap influenced MIDI dildocore with occasional blst beats
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I hope HHH never stops making music
He's the biggest clown of our generation, like Tommy Wiseau of Music
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>>66425526
whatever it is, it has a young man screaming and pretending to be a spooky demon in it, yet there are those who would defend this music as something to be deeply contemplated
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>>66425552
I'm talking about Liturgy.
Kel Valhaal is dildocore.
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>>66425591
well, you can contemplate anything deeply, there's nothing wrong with that
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>>66425587
Tommy Wiseau never made anything genuinely cool (even if flawed) before he made the room though.

HHH is something entirely different.

Are there any examples of people who might have been geniuses but turned out to be complete hacks? I can think of a couple of them in art history but they aren't relevant to pop culture.
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>>66425591
Anon, Liturgy doesn't involve pretending to be a spoopy demon.

it's not Black Metal.
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>>66425625
>Are there any examples of people who might have been geniuses but turned out to be complete hacks?
Lou Reed was a talentless hack
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>>66422484
Fuck off you stupid cunt
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>>66422593
How 2 be rich off music -

1. Get a band
2. Figure out what the "weird" economy is missing
3. Be that to the max
4. Reveal little info, do no interviews
5. Write music (doesn't have to be exceptional). Release like 2 songs and withhold the rest. P4k will give it BNT
6. Plan publicity stunts around your recording's release
7. Pitchfork will give it a score like 8.3-8.4 (high enough to greatly increase your following, but safe enough that they can turn on you in the future. By step 10 tho, who really cares you'll have like 20 hot tubs)
8. More fans, more tour dates, a coveted spot in festival lineups
9. Now, disappear.
10. May have to repeat 5-9 again. If not, go on..
11. Drop hints at return, release song that's completely different music than what your audience is used to
12. Watch the "genius/sellout" debate roll in
13. Repeat step 6
14. P4k will either highly praise it or kick you out of the indie blogo-mafia. By now you can sell out and share 1/100th of radio time with Taylor Swift Justin Bieber Popstar On Her 15th Min Of Fame etc etc etc
15. Doesn't matter because now you are rich and will record middling unremarkable shit music forEVER!!!!!! XD You are now empty but you have jet skis
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>>66425796
Thanks for your infinite wisdom, lord basement dweller
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>>66423445

what do you think the score should have been?
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>>66425796
you spent a ton of time on this and it wasn't funny, accurate or informative. Please, stop.
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Is NILOTSOTQ the Sunbather of electronic glitch Southern rap?
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>>66425796
How to do this with rap?
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>>66424625

you realize it's tongue-in-cheek, right?

like, you don't actually think he's being serious?
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>>66426055
stop samefagging yourself in hopes that someone validates your shit taste.
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>>66425495

>The Ark Work
>black metal
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>>66426057
He's been writing that kind of shit for five years.

And I've only seen him demonstrate any degree of humor and self-awareness on four occasions: two tweets in which he acknowledged that he was a meme, one interview in which he looked fairly laid-back and said his music wasn't quite as ambitious as it used to be, and one picture in which he double-flipped the camera.
Otherwise he maintains a constant facade of pretentiousness and tryhard intellectualism.
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>>66426057
HJe's completely genuine
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>>66426126
i believe thats called a "pseud"
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>>66426143
Whatever, even real intellectuals are pretty laughable. The point is that if he's just pretending, then he's pretending so hard that it's actually retarded of him to even pretend this hard to be a pretentious twat.
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>>66426016
Maybe just a few minutes, not everyone is dumb slow writing faggot

>>66426055
It works exactly the same. Look at Odd Future
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>>66424930
>Ololon and 01010n are different things
I can't tell if HHH is enlightened or just mentally ill
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>>66426229
no they're both the same being, but according to a different perspective.
01010N is the ALIMONY.
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>>66426198
>>66426143
>>66426126

It's called being an artist.

Most great artists have some kind of image or act or even gimmick that isn't necessarily related to their music, whether we're talking about David Bowie, or Death Grips, or Kiss or whatever.

Would you give his music more of a chance if he was just some average-looking dude who acted completely normal, saying shit like "Yeah, I make music, I think it's pretty god, but it's all subjective, heh"?

Probably not, because he would seem pretty fucking boring as a musician.

>inb4 people say music matters more than image

then how come all you fucking autists can criticize is his image, or spout memes like "trap-influenced classical" or whatever the fuck...I'm not saying HHH isn't a "pseud" but if he's a pseud then what the fuck is a real intellectual? do you think you're smarter than him? if you are, then what the fuck are you doing with your life?
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I actually really like the sections where it's the singing/rapping over electronics. His voice is dumb but he has a really interesting delivery, and the autotune/harmonies work really well. Tense Stage and Ontological Love are awesome.
There's just so much filler and fuckery that it's hard to take seriously.
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>>66426298
Dude.
His image actually HINDERS everyone's appreciation of his music.

Back when nobody knew what Liturgy was about, everyone was circlejerking their bold, avant-garde take on black metal.
Then he released his "manifesto", gave interviews, and outed himself as a complete clusterfuck who rivals Chris-chan in autism.
And from that point on, people were far less forgiving with all his musical oddities.
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>>66426304
At best it's just bloopy oriental music with some faggot droning on top.
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>>66422510
Kek
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>>66426298
what the fuck is your point, you fucking moeshit-posting asswipe? You're writing irrelevant platitudes after irrelevant platitudes.
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>>66425467
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