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Obrecht edition. What's your excuse for not listening to one of the greatest recordings of 15th century music (pic related)?
General links and whatnot:
>General folder. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes Bach and Mozart subfolders
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>Debussy Folder: Recordings of Debussy's most important/famous works
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera folder: Construction in progress. Features recorded productions of various operas
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Renaissance Folder
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Crudblud stuff
http://crudblud.sjm.so/
>>66280263
Some other outstanding recordings of Obrecht's masses. It's a pity that some of his finest masses, such as the Missa Libenter Gloriabor and Missa Grecorum, are yet to receive recordings. Other works such as the Missa Maria Zart and Missa Fortuna Desperata are yet to receive decent recordings which can do them full justice.
Are you serious? In C is one of the best pieces of pop art minimalism in existence. Just becuase some shitty phone company used it as ringtone doesnt make it bad. Terry Riley is an innovator of music. One of the original ambient musicians and first western musicians to incorporate ideas from African, Asian and middle eastern music into his work, combining those ideas with western art and pop music as well as prog. Hes amazing. You guys sound like idiots. Also a pioneer of sample based musc and synthesizer based music.
Is In C really that difficult or challenging for the normal person? Sure its taking on a lot of different ideas and complex musically? But to a pop music listener? Its pleasant pretty music. Its not scary, harsh, aggressive, abrasive, or anything. Believe me i prefer other music but i thought it was something that customers could enjoy as well... I played alice coltrane and pharoah sanders earlier in the day and a customer asked me to shut it off which is understandable because there is some atonal saxophone playing in it and arythmic yet complex and melodic improvisations going on. Maybe a bit harsh for pop fans. But In C? Its pretty and pleasant for the pleb brain, while engaging, thought provoking, conceptual, and existentially aware to the thinker....
>>66280719
what the hell is that top right cover
>>66280882
I couldn't find a cover online since it's a release by some company that has long since gone out of business, the ensemble which recorded it, Dufay Consort, has also been disbanded. So I just picked some animu image and slapped words on it using inkscape.
>>66280969
oh well
good job friend
Might as well give an overview of the state of recording for Obrecht's masses in chronological order, the ones with (?) are attributed works
>Early
1. Missa Petrus Apostolus
2. Missa Beata viscera [No recordings]
3. Missa O lumen ecclesie (O quam suavis)
4. Missa Sicut spina rosam
>Transitional
5. Missa de Sancto Martino [No recordings]
6. Missa Sine nomine (?) [No recordings]
7. Missa de Sancto Donatiano
8. Missa Salve diva parens
9. Missa Adieu mes amours [No recordings]
10. Missa Ave regina celorum
11. Missa de Sancto Johanne Baptista (?) [No recordings]
12. Missa Gracioulx et biaulx (?) [No recordings]
>Maturity
13. Missa Caput
14. Missa L'homme arme
15. Missa Plurimorum carminum I [No recordings]
16. Missa De tous biens playne
17. Missa Fors seulement
18. Missa Je ne seray plus (?) [No recordings]
19. Missa N'aray-je jamais (?) [No recordings]
20. Missa Plurimorum carmimum II [No recordings]
21. Missa Grecorum [No recordings]
22. Missa Pfauenschwanz
23. Missa Scaramella [No recordings]
24. Missa Je ne demande [No recordings]
>Full Maturity
25. Missa Fortuna desperata
26. Missa Libenter gloriabor [No recordings]
27. Missa Malheur me bat
28. Missa Rose playsante
>Post Maturity
29. Missa Maria zart
30. Missa Si dedero
31. Missa Cela sans plus
>Special
32. Missa Sub tuum presidium
hey guys does anyone know what piece this is called??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMWtufrxK4M
Nézet-Séguin's Figaro came out yesterday.
Anyone listen to it? It any good?
Bump
>at friends house
>big sound system
https://youtu.be/VbxgYlcNxE8?t=849
>on max
>leave house
>mfw
>>66282450
What's this?
>>66283402
>frog poster
>le meme entry level tchaikovsky
fuck off
>>66284294
No worse than Bach, really.
Not sure if right thread, but could you help me please? I play the piano, but I'm not very good at it. I'm trying to find some new pieces to play in order to improve my technique and sight-reading skills, but I don't really know where to find good pieces. Could you recommend me some? Preferrably romantic or modern era (kind of tired of baroque because I've played the harpsichord for several years), but I'm not ready for too much dissonance. If you could just post youtube links to your favourite pieces that are not too hard to play, that'd be great. The limit of my skill at this point is Chopins Nocturnes (op. 9).
>>66283402
Le V For Vendetta meme xDDD
>>66285500
Surely there's a few sonatas in the Essercizi that you can play through.
>>66285886
This one's a personal favourite, and I don't think it's too well known yet.
>>66285886
I can, but I don't like baroque
>>66285886
>>66285955
Also, this doesn't seem like it'd improve my technique, I'm looking for some sort of challenge, a harder piece each time I finished the last one. I'll try it though, thanks!
>>66286053
scarlatti is technical as fuck bro
Is he underrated?
>>66287159
Is this one of the founding fathers?
>>66280263
>15th century music
No thanks. Real music began with Bach, and real music ended with Bach.
>>66287209
Nice meme
>>66287159
Looks like my grandma
>>66280263
anyone of you guys can share the album posted by OP?
What're some good recordings of Debussy's piano works?
How did a listening public that adored Beethoven and turned out for his funeral en masse sit on Schubert for decades?
>>66288501
t. Mozart
Schubert f a m ww@
>>66290315
Francois is popular on /mu/.
>>66290315
Michelangeli - Preludes
Uchida - Etudes
Fergus-Thompson - probably most consistent complete works
>>66290531
Because he died young and hadn't become a well known public figure unlike Beethoven.
>>66290315
Aimard and Helffer are fine choices for assorted piano works in good sound but Fevrier and Ericourt are great historical accounts for reference
You can find Fevrier's complete Debussy set in the second Mega link, albeit in kind of dry sound
The dark ages of music didn't really end until Monteverdi. Probably because musicians had less hellenic source material than philosophers, painters, dramatists, etc did.
By choosing to listen to that degenerate trash you are soiling your ears. That is nihilist music, lacking the spirit of the agon.
>>66290762
Yeah but Gesualdo literally killed his cuckers.
>>66290816
That may be true but true to his cuckold religion and music (christian music doesn't end until the baroque, the real "renaissance" of music"), he seems to feel guilt about those killings, many critics feel this is reflected in his music. So one must be cautious when one listens to even Gesualdo from this era.
It's really no surprise it took a man with literal depression (CLT) to make such self-effacing
music popular here. True Christian music must have seemed perfect to him, the sounds of the knife turned inwards, total numbing of the unbearableness of things that are worldly.
>>66290896
Fuck off, pleb.
>>66291087
You seem like an interesting guy, are you a musicologist/wanna be musicologist?
Among the very best conductors, is Furtwangler rated because of the old recordings meme or despite of it?
>>66291138
I'm still an unspecialised undergrad but I would be allowed to transfer into music from my own course if I wished. Do you only need to start at a young age for performance, or does that apply to musicology too?
>>66291147
A bit of both
>>66291208
Nah I don't think that applies to musicology considering it's just the study of music akin to the study of art history, history, philosophy, etc.
>>66291268
Well that's good. Philosophy really does seem most important because it is the basis for all other subjects but I could minor in music if they'll have me. I'll email some people from the faculty.
>>66281401
fuck off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKs3_qHqemU
Does anybody recognize the cantata playing at the beginning, I know it but can't remember the name and it's really bugging me.
>>66292418
Aren't the words clear to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBWgH3oYd40
>>66292492
Yeah, before I saw your reply I listened to it a couple times and realized that it was actually in English.
>>66292524
>americans
>>66292723
If I were a burger I would have obviously recognized my native language, I literally never listen to anglophone classical music so it hadn't occurred to me it could have been in English.
>>66290694
There's gotta be someone better than Uchida in the etudes.
>>66293321
If you mean in modern sound, I like Aimard
>>66280263
Oh a scale of 9.99... to 10 how underrated is Telemann?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDud3CBYxmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xGoIx2BK-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Zsk55I2Ww (REEE)
will you think less of me if I say I like Rachmaninoff's 2nd piano concerto
Is HIP the reason performers today are so boring?
>>66294763
No. Idiot.
>>66294215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o40g3OEPnko
9.998/10. Telemann is great.
>>66294229
Yes.
1st is best by far.
>>66295215
"no"
>>66295148
The 9's are repeating my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFBwntoMNkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnTEwsRT-8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQLlvfwxMqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYpUAHpvi0A
What do y'all think of Lachenmann?
>>66280263
thx for the mega shares. What's the deal with all the Fricsay? Any good?
>>66296203
GOAT Mozart, Bartok, and a GOAT Beethoven 9.
Fricsay is pretty good.
post GOOD albums
>>66296688
>>66294215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6anibrKhCw
pretty underated, love me some telemaster
>>66296726
thank you
I cant post the scans for this because they were over 10mb and I couldn't resize them without distorting them but this album also has liszt's legend 2 and hungarian rhapsodies 2 & 6
>>66294215
Telememe is properly rated.
>>66296973
Mein neger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkqYFf2YbUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtSEHODOqhY
>>66289318
Check the Renaissance folder, it should be there now.
>>66295780
Always provides something interesting.
>mfw some pleb near me can't into Renaissance music
I made a channel inspired by magischmeisjeorkest.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GgVtHAkHKNghroUKONROQ
>>66299753
What youtube channels do you guys follow?
I follow gullivior, pianopera, shellackophile, and truecrypt for historic memes, and aTonalHits for contemporary memes.
>>66300121
TheWelleszCompany, Gerubach, Norman Perryman, artofcounterpoint (check his fugues based on popular tunes - pretty based), Wellesz Theater, among other non-classical channels
>>66291087
Shhh no tears, only dreams now.
>>66299753
Lemmie know when you get some good stuff uploaded :))
What's the best place to start with classical music?
Pls no memes
>>66302187
Bach, Mozart, Beethoven
>>66302187
Chopin or Beethoven.
Bach if you have autism.
>>66302236
If Bach is for the autistic, then Chopin is for the shallow. His lifes work was literally salon background music
>>66302322
Poly shoo, don't you have to sleep early for work tomorrow?
>>66302322
I agree
Chopin is pretty shit, a composer for one right hand
>blunt and insensitive personality
>let his wife rot in siberia and married a younger woman right after with no problem
>has the blank aspie stare in almost every picture
Found out that another guy that studied Prokofiev's life also thinks he was a high functioning sperglord. Pretty interesting. Does Prokofiev's music make any of you think of autism?
>>66302391
Pretty much all composers are high functioning autists/spergs with the possible exception of Telemann and Haydn, anon.
>>66302187
Vivaldi's Four Seasons is a memetic and structurally simple work, so it's great for newfags.
Beethoven's 14th piano sonata (Moonlight) is very emotional and the first movement is simple, so it's a great introduction as well.
Be careful with Bach, his music isn't particularly emotional. When you pick one of his works and don't get it, keep relistening and try several different interpretations.
Also, read about the works you're listening to. For program music (for example, Four Seasons), read the program. And it's really useful to know basic theory and terminology, to orient yourself in a work. Otherwise you can feel like the composer is just randomly throwing a bunch of melodies at you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kui5OuWDy_Y
Can someone list all the sad/spooky Scarlatti pieces? Thanks.
>>66302322
>>66302363
>a Wagner quote
Chopin would be laughing his ass off if you told him his music would still make bogbillies this mad in 2016.
There's an anecdote about a G*rman who attended a Chopin recital and started spazzing out afterwards because he didn't get his daily FFF mud dose. You are literally that guy.
heard one chopin composition heard em all desu
>>66303858
To me the "spookiness" of most Scarlatti piece comes from how unhinged he can get at times. This is one guy who just doesn't give a damn about rules or decorum. You have a piece which begins innocently enough like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSj24ge6sew
Then suddenly out of nowhere freaking cluster chords. If you were brought up on Bach and the likes this is the music that makes you nauseous. And did I mention it's addictive?
>>66304271
>tfw scarlatti invented post-punk
>>66303997
>mad
Chopin's music is too inoffensive to make anyone mad.
We called Chopin shit. One can calmly call a composer shit without getting emotional. Chopin writes bel canto inspired arias for the right hand, but without any text to convey meaning. He writes decent homophonic tunes for piano, but thats about it.
If Chopin was alive I think he'd be full of regret that he didn't branch out beyond lite salon music.
>>66304449
>If Chopin was alive I think he'd be full of regret that he didn't branch out beyond lite salon music
>The orthodox view of Chopin as a miniaturist is now pretty much obsolete, exploded, discredited. Many of the large works—ballades, scherzi, sonatas, great polonaises, fantasies, barcarolle—are longer than an average movement of Beethoven. Chopin was, in fact, the only composer of his generation who never, after the age of twenty-one, wrote a long piece that was ineffective. Many of schumann’s larger works (although not, of course, the finest) have uninspired moments that raise problems for their interpreter of sustaining the interest. There are deserts with few oases in a number of works of Berlioz; and there are not many works of liszt that are completely exempt from some facile and even trashy pages. But the elegance, distinction, and efficacy of Chopin’s large forms are almost unique for the time in their success.
>>66302813
also glenn gould's goldberg variations can suck a dick, a harpsichord is way better because it puts more emphasis on the tempo rubato instead of waxy dynamic changes
>>66304449
>bel canto inspired arias for the right hand
>homophonic
>lite salon music
>you dropped pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bX3GeQZu-A
>a contrapuntal piece almost no one can play to a satisfying degree because it requires more than being autistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9dCW0dJrCo
>a continuous impetuous of anger with more timbral variation than most sonatas, basically proto-scriabin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fkky_mF1Z0
>unironic moments of horror almost unprecedented in western art music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBiGDB5jVl0
>even 27/2 is a work of explosive pathos when played closer to Chopin's tempo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iexkUMZfl5A
>spooky impressionistic elegy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFlyKTyFfrs
>the most martial piece of western art music
If you hate Chopin at least come up with your own arguments.
>>66304650
>also glenn gould's goldberg variations can suck a dick
He actually agreed with you.
Has /classical/ ever drafted the perfect music library? It seems easy to do if you avoid the "which performance" debacles. Viennese classicism is most essential and you'd branch either way from there, sticking to the big names.
>>66304987
The only reason why we didn't get to hear the reasons he hated his second recording as well is that he died right afterwards.
>>66303997
kek
chopin's "most successful" relationship was with a woman named george who spoke and behaved like a caveman and had tasted more pussy by accident than he could dream of, whereas debussy was a true, faithful husband to every married woman he met until he met the next adulterous fornicatrix
How do I go about getting this music I requested from the University of the Philippines (no bully) performed? It's all small chamber music involving the cello so I could play one of the parts.
>>66308006
Probably because Chopin was very spiritual and his relation with that thing was more utilitarian than anything seeing how he was sick his whole life.
>>66308298
Why would you request such a thing?
>>66308298
FUCK the Philippines! They can fill up my ass.
fuck this stupid asshole
>>66280263
Hey guys, I need Classical music that is related to the themes of Fantasy, old folk legends, Medieval stories and just Nature/forest stuff.
i know this is a pleb question for Classical music, but that's what I want right now.
thanks a lot.
>>66308990
>the g*rmans are out again
>>66309012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Bjp9jptbM
kind of
>>66308560
probably because he had been cucked by delphina and rejected as a sick pleb by wodzinska
>>66308931
Because Nicanor Abelardo's music is nice and cute.
>>66309055
>using freudian (a g*rman) memes to undermine a beautiful person
>>66309235
>freudian
top kek
his "beautiful relationship" with george was the best he could do after failing to get the women he desired
>>66290315
gieseking
![the-ring-cycle-die-walkure-1280x320[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3cW3RNU.jpg "the-ring-cycle-die-walkure-1280x320[1].jpg")
>>66309012
>Fantasy, old folk legends, Medieval stories and just Nature/forest stuff
Wagner?
I don't particularly like chopin's music but I have enormous respect for him and his struggle.
In my mind he is a casualty of revolutionary thought.
His music both suffers and benefits from his dilemma.
Thoughts on Sergei Rachmaninoff? Been listening to some of his Piano Concerto's. I enjoy it.
>>66310184
>>66310225
Is he legit a meme?
>>66310184
The fact that Rachmaninoff made a lot of mediocre music is only incidental to neckbeards hating him. They hate hate him mostly because he made loud, strong, big, extraverted music with no jigging and fanfares which makes G*rman composers look very silly.
His symphonies are genuinely terrible though.
How to get into /classical/?
>>66309012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGVto_icPrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59EkCySNnRI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4KO2nQOSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEYdtdBK2IY
>>66310870
http://www.scaruffi.com/music/essentia.html
>>66310870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n9Lc_jNcbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NBbI_d72bo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWdaFwfP8Dc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oby40zDkr6A
>>66310184
Somehow worse than Chopin.
>>66310184
Rachmaninoff was a better composer than Haydn and Mozart. And that's more than enough to say.
>>66304863
>Germanophobic is still underrating Chopin's Ballades and Etudes
You never change, do you?
>>66291087
Fuck off, Nazi scum.
>>66311546
Spicy b8
This thread is proof that Chopin is underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2i24aRORTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOrOfCDTf7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEs6jOVRLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPN4gXy834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1F1oo7e85E
>>66285500
My roomate has been playing some Rachmaninov pieces, that could be a good start
>>66280854
Do you like Bartok or varese? Stockhausen? Cage?
I feel like In C is a trivial piece because of how different it can be every time. It's neat, but I don think it's as extraordinary as you put it out to be
>>66312862
why answer pasta
>Mozart
>>66313514
Further proof.
>>66313622
of his snore-inducing music? for sure.
>>66313654
the snore is musically more interesting to be honest
>>66313514
Fuck off poly.
>>66299753
>>>orchestr/a/
>>66300121
Ispirazione Barocche + related channels, John/Rachel Portman, harpsichordA6 + related channels, The Gravicembalo, HARMONICO101, EuterpeVendicata (certified A E S T H E T I C), anthony223, FromBaroqueWithLove, etc.
>>66303997
>Debussy
>a genuine husband
Top kek
>>66304271
>mfw there are still people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think that Handel won that keyboard contest against Scarlatti
Fucking Handelcucks on suicide watch.
Mahler is cute
>>66315682
>tfw no mahler
>>66315767
Vivaldi is literally the cutest.
>>66315787
But muh brahms
>>66315787
clearly bald tho
>>66315787
Chopin obviously is
>>66315787
Could pass as a chick desu
>>66315767
>tf
>>66315767
Schubert looks so smug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_HeH-pRfI
>>66315905
>tfw best girl in classical music isn't even a girl
>>66315918
>not chibi
>>66316182
nice
What /classical/ considers entry-level?
>>66315767
>Bach is the only one that doesn't look like a complete faggot
Seems about right
>>66316399
mozart
rachmaninoff
tchaikovsky
etc
they all make "light" music for closeted twinks
>>66316399
chopin
debussy
fauré
etc
composers of elevator music, basically
>>66316492
>implying Mozart isn't 2deep4plebs exit-level music
>>66316492
>underrating Mozart
>not understanding Mozart
>Disregarding a composer just because you don't understand it
>>66316566
>>66313622
>Mozart shitposters spamming memes
color me surprised
>>66316492
>>66316563
Spotted the plebs
Is it wrong to love Dvorak above everything else, even if he doesn't fulfill the secret club requirements?
>>66316602
spotted the youtube-tier classical pleb
>>66316609
There is no secret club. Enjoy what you enjoy, you can shill Dvorak around here if you want, but beware of memers.
>>66316399
Satie
>>66316609
yes, but the best love is
>>66316591
>>66316602
>"I love radio classical"
that's fine, but believe it or not, some of us have taste :)
>>66316671
>radio classical
Spotted the RYM pleb.
>>66316639
>No secret club
>Implying all /classical/ isn't just high level dick measuring
>>66316671
>implying Mozart is in bad taste
Spotted the contrarian cuck
>>66316687
>>66316737
>more buzzwords from the Mozart Defense Force
I hope someone's paying you for this
>>66316764
>not attacking the argument but the wording
Tastes are subjective and therefore one's taste can't be superior to others.
Also, Mozart is good. :^)
>Mozart underrating
It's that time again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s1FsELWu_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGZoKplBhfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rO2HHroYOA
>>66316857
further proof that mozart is overrated
>>66316857
time for bed already? thanks for the snooze playlist!
>>66316927
>>66316934
https://rbt.asia/mu/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=fuck+off+poly
>>66316818
>Tastes are subjective and therefore one's taste can't be superior to others
>>66315767
>no qtest
>>66318153
desu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhM3RKkuTl4
Post your favorite vesper verses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCBFWNrfiJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAWZCZQJ0xg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PU97xMIc4
>>66318153
Not even the qtest Francophone.
>>66318940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_36x1_LKgg
>>66318571
https://youtu.be/Ekcd9xq5ZQM?t=8m5s
>>66318571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2KXS1XEFw
Mozart or Fauré requiem?
>>66320354
kek
>>66320354
Verdi
>>66320717
>Verdi
I thought /classical/ was a meme free zone.
>>66320792
What made you think that?
>>66320792
clearly, you were wrong
>>66320792
You thought wrong, newfag. The dankest memes of mankind are here every day.
>>66320792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJfNjfsCdc
>>66320792
>>66320354
>Faure
>at all
Any good music about the old testament?
>>66321003
moses und aron
>>66320875
How horrifying.
>>66321003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4hpDxMeJSo
>>66321022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLugVMzLoU
>>66320811
Pfhahaha does anyone have that other one with the Wagner SS amp comment?
>>66320811
>rapistcore
Truly ahead of his time.
>>66321979
>ahead of time
Excuse me but clearly Gombert and Phinot were the first documented cases of composers practicing rapistcore on boipucci.
>>66321792
>>66322037
2016 classical is truly inferior
Am I autistic for finding Bach's music to be really emotional? I cried the first time I heard the Art of Fugue, and it still makes me tear up a bit around the fifth contrapunctus like clockwork.
>>66322266
You don't get quality memes like pic anymore.
satie is god-tier. anyone who disagrees doesn't get laid.
>>66315682
is mahler the most qt 3.14 composer?
>>66322305
when he's good, he's really good, but most of his compositions are mediocre impressionist trash. he had far more interesting musical ideas than an actual talent for composing.
but you're right, i don't get laid, so take that as you will
>>66322290
i fucking hated them all but i miss our tripfags and namefags. they made the place lively
>>66322345
>SDF is busy with life
>who knows where taxes and Harpsichord is
>CLT is too busy/bored of /mu/ to bother anymore
>Tallis would rather meme on /lit/
>poly is still here
Truly the dark ages.
>>66322308
Not when Brahms exists.
Post more Brahms!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VF1UsVDSQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4xxgGEzzqU
>>66322305
where do i branch off from satie? romantic shit is what i mostly listen to as far as classical goes, but only entry level stuff so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Xm7s9eGxU
More like this?
For the Piano?
Chopin - ballades/nocturnes
Debussy - suite bergamasque/children's corner/arabesques
Schubert - late sonatas
Brahms - op 117/118
Rachmaninoff (lol)- piano concerto no.2/3
Mozart (underrated) - concerto No. 21/24 + more
Bach - goldberg variations/well tempered clavier/pretty much anything adapted to piano.
Satie is horribly mediocre.
>>66324217
Thanks a bunch.
>Satie horribly mediocre.
Probably, I'm no expert on classical by any stretch of the imagination hence the newfag question. All I know is that I like Romantic piano stuff as of now.
>>66322385
>poly is still here
I've been asleep for the last 16 hours, whoever you think is me, is just some other guys with opinions you think are mine (but aren't)
Contrary to what you guys seem to think, I actually like Mozart.
>>66322290
>god tier
In what way? he could write a simple tune against some chords. Its not that hard. God tier would be writing the St Matthew passion or Don Giovanna or Strauss' 4 last songs, or writing a 6 voice fugue
>Bach's "wedge" fugue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCuew6mIFE
Now there's a god tier composition. (from 6:33)
satie sounds like minecraft music
Is it worth $30?
I just listened to some of his music on youtube.
Seems pretty enjoyable and he had such a nice character.
>>66325212
tracklist
>>66325212
No not really, it is fairly bland and has little re-playability after the first listen. Try Myaskovsky, Gubaidulina or Denisov instead.
>>66322276
Definitely.
>>66324013
see >>66316492 and >>66316563
>>66325467
It would autistic NOT to find emotion in Bach. Listen to those violin partitas, the beautiful vocal writing in his passions. Anyone who doesn't feel emotion from those is probably the definition of autistic: not being able to understand emotions or feelings of others.
>>66325491
Don't fuck with the meme to make a banal point.
>>66325491
Are all the partitas as boring as the chaconne? It quickly fizzles out into tragicomical wanking after like 1 minute, it's almost proto-Mozart. Definitive proof Bach was a terrible composer, take away his counterpoint and he has nothing to say. Not that his contrapuntal works are any good, but the chaconne is an embarrassment to music itself.
>>66322276
Pretty much, his music is nothing but STEM porn.
>>66326027
You seem very ignorant
>>66326340
At least I don't like Bach.
>>66326566
Thats exactly what makes you seem ignorant
Its funny how the people who dislike bach seem to be the most autistic. Often its the opposite of a meme that is true. Like Mozart being underrated.
>>66327200
>Often its the opposite of a meme that is true. Like Mozart being underrated.
Further proof
>>66327200
>Often its the opposite of a meme that is true. Like Mozart being underrated.
fptmiu
>>66327200
Ignorant of what?
At least 99% of Bach contrapuntal pieces are the same piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mia9woisQZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpnfQntMisc
These are almost 20 years apart. Not a single difference past harmonic whoopty doos most of which Bach's contemporaries - and I'd wager his predecessors - already expressed in a much more human manner.
It's EMBARRASSING.
>the MASTER of cohesion
>the PROPHET of pitch
>the INTREPID EXPLORER of the universe
>da-da-da...tinkle...tinkle...tinkle...da-da-da
At least Mozart had the decency to sprinkle his furniture music with some warmth and a nice tune every now and then.
>>66329807
Those 2 pieces couldn't be more different. Ones in major and ones in minor for starters, not to mention totally different subjects.
I think you're ignorant of a lot. I dont really know where to start. Furniture music is what satie called his music, it really doesn't apply to either Bach or Mozart, and Bach is full of tunes. A fugue is 100% tunes, just different tunes interweaving.
>>66329947
>Ones in major and ones in minor for starters
>https://www.reddit.com/
>>66329807
my rage at this post is only surpassed by my confusion as to what is actually being said, apart from
>too much harmony
and
>not enough tunes
which suggests that as much as counterpoint manifests a paradoxical cohabitation of reason and feeling, you are somehow both an ingrown hack and a savvy baiter.
>>66330079
So you're ignorant of how keys work?
The first fugue is in E major
Contrapunctus XIV is in D minor
You're just an incredibly dumb troll. You need need to know the basics of theory in order to troll /classical/
>>66330131
Counterpoint - at least Bach's - manifests a cohabitation of reason and feeling in the same way a landfill manifests a cohabitation of vaguely edible material and trash. The only paradoxical thing is the enormous effort, not to mention the baffling psycho-STEM-religious drivel, that goes into making it and the fact that it hasn't changed at all in 400 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJWMMuKEL5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9cnyfET1lE
These are only 18 years apart and the difference between them is INCOMMENSURATELY greater than the difference between a random Gesualdo meme and Hindemith fugue.
>>66330206
How DO keys work?
Counterspergs on suicide watch. Post good music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q7aXlGnYaI
>tfw missing a lot of bass frequencies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3MqFP0-ekU
>the most stereotypical chopin piece
>actually a miniature
>actually no development
>actually salon music
>still amazing and more emotional than hours of wailing bog strings
>Philipp Glass's violin concerto no.1 mov. 2
>literally poor man's Biber passacaglia in g minor
Why is this allowed?
>>66330819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-xhrSPl-E
A wonderful meditation on death where the unwavering left hand represents the cosmic cadential process and the right hand represents the ego which gradually concedes and is inevitably reintegrated into the whole.
A 100% spiritual piece, miles ahead of the roiling cauldrons of peat and sauerkraut usually posted here.
>>66331665
>minimalism
Why is this allowed?
>>66331665
Glass is a meme.
>>66332018
>>66332214
>jerking off over centuries-old clunky formalist masturbations of real life rednecks
>not euphoric
>spirituality and beauty
>euphoric
/classical/ now allows atonal shitposting.
>>66332341
>>66332372
>pointlessly repeating the same inane thing
That's the G*rman spirit!
>>66332407
>sophisticated satire intimidates me
>>66332407
>>66332443
>>66333128
The jokes write themselves.
why are the romantics so shit
people like chopin, berlioz, and brahms make me physically ill just listening to their music. nothing but schmaltzy self fellating music
>>66333148
And you're the butt of it lmao.
>this lack of self-awareness
>>66333288
Self-awareness of what?
>>66333285
>pic related, it's you
>>66333360
i dont like any romantic. including germans.
schutz is probably the only german i have a fondness for. but really romantics are complete garbage.
renaissance and baroque > classical > modern >>>>>>>>> romantics
>>66333472
Baroque, Classical, and Romantic are mostly temporal boundaries rather than musical ones.
>>66333472
Why are Renaissance and Baroque that high when the Classical and Modern periods did everything they did but better?
