ITT: Musicians you actually feel sorry for
>>66135850
Explain this
>>66135865
he's bald
>>66135865
>most famous song is now a teen angst anthem
>actual fans only care about two albums released over 20 years ago
>long, long, long past his heyday
>no one listens to his new work
>taking a decade to create a triple album no one will listen to anyway
>only smashing pumpkin in the smashing pumpkins yet keeps the name
>performs terrible avant garde piano work in public
>way out of critical favor
>fat
>ugly
take your pick
>>66135873
>>66135925
sorry pedro, you can't stay here
>>66135850
MFW no one was talking about him until he insulted their savior Bernie. get a job kids
>>66135951
>actual fans only care about two albums released over 20 years ago
This is so true. I have yet to meet a smashing pumpkins fan that isn't really just a Siamese Dream and Melancholy fan. I know that's all I'm referring to when I say I like them.
Siamese is fucking brilliant though.
>>66135951
I'm a synth autist so I actually tried staying through his awful modular 'performance' at his coffee shop. He's just gone off the reservation, I can't imagine how bad he'll be in another twenty years.
>49 years of age and the only thing he does now is get annoyed by 'sjws'
pathetic bald fuck he made shit music
>>66136162
I think I prefer Mellon Collie overall even though it has a lot more filler. Even something like Lily My One and Only is brilliant.
Gish, Adore, and Oceania all have some gems scattered across them and Aeroplane and Machina II are good as well.
The guitar player from Coldplay
>can play Shoegaze really well
>obviously influenced by some great acts
>stuck on Chris Martins wild train into the world of shit
>>66136263
He should team up with ed o brain
>>66136263
seriously montie why do you keep bringing up that one awful shoegaze song from coldplay up please fucking stop its so annoying
>>66135850
billy corgan is an alex jones loving faggot with millions of dollars whats to feel sorry for?
>>66136263
Poor guy. Probably has to wipe his tears with hundreds.
>>66135850
DALE
when he was alive at least
>>66135850
The true GOAT, feels bad that he didn't get to off himself on stage
On a serious note.
>>66136586
who is she
>>66136601
Bob Dylan
>>66136601
Jim Morrison
>>66136586
If only I could have been his friend
>>66136601
Nick Cave
If he'd stop antagonizing his more casual fans for liking his earlier stuff so much, he'd be in a much better place. Weird politics aside, I don't think he's actually that bad of a guy. Just not the kind of person who deals with fame (and the loss of fame) very well.
>>66136660
Fuck I read his biography one time and it made me feel sad. He lived a lonely and depressing life. I can really relate to him.
>>66136351
It's actually not awful and it is on par with any Slowdive song. It also shows the potential for progression as a band that is held back by a idiot.
>>66136259
one of the things about mellon collie is that everyone has a different favourite track. like the ones i dont rate too much are some that people rate the most. really varied album
>>66137148
>a idiot
an*
Coldplay were always awful and Slowdive are even worse because they're taken serious in music circles for some reason
>>66136170
For real? There was a 300 post thread on /mu/ that night talking about how terrible it was.
>>66137237
Yeah, and the tracks I liked the most years ago aren't the tracks I like the most today.
>>66135951
Perhaps but
>actual fans only care about two albums released over 20 years ago
This one's bullshit. "Actual" fans are crazy about Gish, Adore, and MACHINA. Some like M2, ZG, and some later stuff too. The only fans I've met who only care about SD and MC were the total casuals who could only even name the singles from MC anyway. If you go to a Pumpkins show you'll hear tons of fans losing it over non Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie songs anyway.
Billy Corgan's done great for himself. Yeah he comes off as strange but if he's onto yet another too-ambitious-for-its-own-good project that he thinks few fans will even listen to, he only has himself to blame.
>>66137284
Yea there were a couple huge threads
>>66137662
Damn. Right in the feels...
>>66137662
who dis?
>>66136556
He had plenty of opportunities, he kept changing the date, avoiding it fucking pussy
>>66137818
syd barrett from pink floyd
>>66137932
thank you anon
>>66138273
you seem like a cool dude have a nice day
>Your first band releases one album then dissolves
>reforms into a copy of your second band
>second band becomes factionalized with you stuck in the middle
>you have to play second fiddle to Big Suit Man
>first band reforms again without you
>all of your solo albums end up flying under the radar
>second band refuses to reunite
>>66135850
I dont feel sorry for fantano
>>66136351
what shoegaze song is it lol. I dont listen to coldplay
>>66135951
I'm surprised no one mentioned Sasha Grey.
>>66137719
I liked Adore and Gish a lot, Corgan has still been off the rails for years and needs to come down off his cloud.
>>66135850
>>66138453
What about pavement?
That he was mentioned in a song
how in the fuck am I the first one to post this?
>>66135850
Punished Corgan: A cool kid that never had the time
>>66137777
Holy shit. Why?
He's probably still a virgin too
>>66138649
who?
>>66137719
Bitch Corgan himself said he played the first song off Zeitgeist and he could tell no one had listened to it.
>Billy Corgan's done great for himself.
The problem is with all that he's still miserable, and that's why he's pitiable.
>>66139423
Wow, one song. How could he tell anyway?
>>66136263
their first few albums were solid
>>66136586
smoking that dank shit err day
>>66136601
Elliott Smith
>>66135850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPIaAV1UyqU
>>66139594
>People didn't listen to it. I could tell that people weren't listening to the album. In the past if you put out an album, people at least knew the first song. We would go out and play "Doomsday Clock" and I could tell that they hadn't even listened to it.
>>66137719
Is there any indication Corgan has been happy in the last fifteen years?
>>66139819
lmao he looks like a Pitbull impersonator
>>66136586
ping ping ping ping?
to be honest senpai, all you disgusting pigs keep bothering her
seriously though
>>66138934
This, dude could have been amazing
>>66136601
Alex Chilton
>>66135951
>moat famous song is now a teen angst anthem
Wasn't 1979 always a teen angst anthem?
>>66139838
Fair, but it's still one song.
>>66139862
Is there any indication that he's miserable? He doesn't scream how happy he is all the time but who does? At worst I see that he probably wishes he was still a chart topper, perhaps a tad jaded, but he's been that way since ever. What I don't see is any indication that he's deep down an unhappy person.
>>66139340
lets give some pussy to daniel
who wants to volunteer?
I just wanna give the poor dude a hug
I feel bad for how they treated alienboy, Tom Delonge. Mark basically froze him out.
>>66140255
That's not the one; they're most known for a song people think the title of is "Rat in a Cage," which in hindsight sounds on par with some of that nu metal shit from the early 2000s.
>>66136601
Drizzy
>>66139615
Lol I remember I was at Disneyland the day he was there. Tried to find him to no avail.
>puts together band
>makes amazing album that sells practically zero copies
>every review ignores you in favor of your songwriting partner because he was famous once
>leaves his band because he can't take it anymore
>closeted homosexual in Memphis in the 70s
>tries to balance his homosexuality with his religious faith
>becomes serious drug addict
>records solo album no record company is interested
>crashes his car and dies
>band becomes hugely acclaimed after his death
>>66140342
Going off of youtube views, spotify plays, and chart positions, 1979 is still their most popular song by far. Regardless, most of their well-known songs are actually teen angst anthems, but they're good teen angst anthems.
>>66140093
i thought that was mitzutani haha
>>66140266
Yes if this doc on the wiki is correct.
>Billy Corgan has struggled with depression for much of his life and has endured bouts of self-injury, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and suicidal thoughts. Corgan attributes these problems to the abuse he endured as a child as well as personal anxieties and issues.
And his work reflects every bit of that. X.Y.U. is not something that could have been made by a mentally stable person.
>>66139819
how can you hate this guy?? I don't get it.
Every time I see his interviews he has really interesting ideas on things and he is so clearly down to earth but just fed up with the bad rap he gets. People use him for clickbait. think about it.
>>66140452
Still not something he wants to be associated with anymore. The best way to troll him remains yelling at him to play rat in a cage.
>>66135850
why not throw D'arcy in while we're here
>>66139340
THIS.
>>66140514
Touche. He's seemed like he's in a good place to me in recent years anyway. He doesn't seem to be outwardly miserable. Either way. He's still done amazingly well for himself despite apparently no one believing him, not exactly the type of person I feel bad for.
>>66136973
He's a fucking asshole. He makes overindulgent music, was an asshole to that singer from Deer Hunter, to Pavement and probably more too
>>66141679
why does he hate Pavement so much?
and what all has he said about them?
Any of you guys seen the interview with Billy and Nick Cave?
https://youtu.be/7X1LThFfA8U
>>66141817
Billy just goes out of his way to antagonize everyone. He got into a massive feud back in the 90s with Collective Soul, too.
I mean it's not really applicable anymore, but I used to give him a hug any time I saw him.
>>66141915
Forgot pic
>>66140286
this so much
>>66139615
Want to go for a ride
>>66141817
It was that line in Range Life: "Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins Nature kids, I, they don't have no function I don't understand what they mean and I could really give a fuck"
He blocked them from playing Lollapalooza because he wouldn't play if they did, and being the bigger act, he got his way. He's complained about them reuniting and other stuff too
>>66142217
kek I forgot about that line, never gave it much thought but I bet it pissed him off
https://youtu.be/zNC6McdI414
Blabbering on about the message and integrity of his music, not realising he's fallen the fuck off, wants rock N roll in the centre of culture to deal with sociol-polititcal issues. Wew lad
>>66140316
it was Tom who destroyed Mark /watch?v=5HthQR2Id1I
also listen to Cynical and San Diego off the new record... Tom doesn't give a sh*t
>>66140316
Fuck off, he ruined both iterations of the band. And the reunion was more his faggy space shit than +44's bretty gud alternative pop punk.
And we missed out on an album with what I think was their best sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64P3vmACupA
>>66143131
kek
>>66139340
>>66140277
>>66140822
He's not a virgin. He had a fling with Kathy McCarty. They mention this in his documentary. He thought it was a relationship, and even introduced her to his parents saying that she was his fiancée. She felt it was moving too fast, so she broke it off with him. She ended up falling in love with one of his friends, then she married his friend.
>>66138530
He has always been my fav Talking Head, and his early solo albums weren't bad.
