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Thread for all general jazz discussion.
What's your favorite subgenre of jazz?
What's your overall favorite jazz album?
Do you think race makes a difference in jazz?
Do you think people who play jazz have more valid opinions about it?
>Favorite Subgenre
Third Stream, gonna want to get into hard bop because I'm pretty entry level so far, if anyone can rec essential hard bop that'd be cool
>Favorite
Overall, so far, A Love Supreme.
>Race making a difference
I suppose so. Blacks have always been better rappers and jazz musicians, and are closely in tune with the culture and backstory to those genres since they are of the same race who created it. Overall, it's more about the individual skill of the player, not their race.
>Valid opinion
Yes. If you can play an instrument, say the violin, your opinion on a classical piece would be more valid than if you didn't since you are intimately knowledgable about one or more of the instruments being used.
these questions are fucking dumb.
and holy shit this cats answers are dumb.
>>65796528
how are they dumb?
>>65796528
fucking this
"Race" and "valid opinions" are completely meaningless terms
This thread will go on as your regular /pol/ shit bucket
Good job, op, you moron
>>65796528
Here's a better one
How do I learn how to give the succ like Dizzy?
>>65796565
This
>What's your favorite subgenre of jazz?
Post bop
>What's your overall favorite jazz album?
Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage (it was my first love)
>Do you think race makes a difference in jazz?
No.
>Do you think people who play jazz have more valid opinions about it?
No. Since music it's subjective, anyone can give his reasons why he either like or dislike some record (and that would be valid enough, even if you disagree). If you play an instrument, you'll be likely do notice different aspects off an album and give different reviews, and enrich your experience.
if u guys actually wanted to talk about music then youd be asking about what records ur checking out. not some random shit besides the music.
>>65796632
You're welcome to ask that my friend since it's a thread for any general jazz discussion.
The last 5 times I tried starting a thread about jazz by asking that they all died after a couple hours with less than 20 replies.
this is a music board, if u cats gave a fuck and were hip to anything you we would be discussing shit like who played on prestige LP 7027 and the different colors in lee morgans playing versus feddie hubbards. talk about jazz you fucking cucks.
>>65796666
alright OP, whos playing are you into these days and how has it affected your life recently?
>>65796686
There is a repeating weekly thread where we do just that
>>65731973
I want to fuck shit outta Gerry Mulligan. I dream of that pasty creamy whiteboy ass being penetrated by me in my countless wet dreams
Post jazz musicians you want to fuck
new to jazz but this is some sexy/funky music, any recs would be cool
>>65796750
i know, guy who spams every jazz thread im on. i look at it and listen to it every week. i just rarely post.
>>65796714
I've been into Joe Henderson's playing recently. I like all of his Blue Note albums but I can't decide which one I like best because they all have some strengths and weaknesses. I don't know how it has effected my life other than just developing a fondness for very angular melodies and sax players who can play very traditionally but can also play with a lot of freedom when the situation requires it.
>>65796786
Not him actually. But I do wish that more people would post in those threads. If you listen to the music and read the threads what's stopping you from posting in them?
>>65796813
i dig, ive been spinning live in tokyo and state of the tenor a bit recently. his time feel on state of fucking grooves, i think its some of rons most creative playing too.
>>65796869
idk f a m, im usually in the shed and dont have time to write shit out for every track
Hey has anyone heard this album? It features Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, McCoy Tyner, and Keith Jarrett. Really nice stuff, always puts me in a good mood. I'm really more into free jazz but of course I like other types. Never really been able to get into latin jazz. When I was in my high school jazz band we always had at least a few latin jazz songs per year and they were fun but I just couldn't get into listening to them. If anyone can give me some latin jazz that they think is good I'd be open to check it out
>>65797060
Forgot the picture lmao
>>65797060
idk what record your talking about but if u like that kind of piano playing and free then holy shit, have u listened to the american quartet? bop-be?
>>65796942
Makes sense I guess. It would be good to get the opinions of more musicians in the threads though. You should try to find the time just to write a little bit about any tracks you either strongly like or strongly dislike.
>>65796771
Ethiopiques has like 30 collections by this point; if you loved no. 4 just keep going through 'em. I found this Ethio-jazz record randomly yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvU_0wX-jzE
I'd recommend Eastern Sounds by Yusuf Lateef if you're really feeling those "eastern-sounding" modes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KfVsJwTjlo
>>65797128
youre asking alot from me here morty.
>>65797115
No I haven't. Keith Jarrett is actually the only one on that record that I wasn't really familiar with before I heard it and I never really checked him out but I'll make a note of it
>>65797266
ahhhh shit man, check out bya blue and bop be, made in 76 or so with dewey redman (ts) charlie haden (b), and paul motian (d). if ur in to free stuff like ornette or something and like herbie or something then this shit.
>>65797190
that first link was groovy as hell, thanks
>>65796469
>What's your favorite subgenre of jazz?
?
>What's your overall favorite jazz album?
?
>Do you think race makes a difference in jazz?
nah
>Do you think people who play jazz have more valid opinions about it?
Well it's an opinion isn't it? But like any art form, people who have spent their lives studying and practicing it are going to have more insight into the subtleties of that art.
>>65797060
>If anyone can give me some latin jazz that they think is good I'd be open to check it out
Well if you're more into free jazz you should check out Yosvany Terry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp8x1F1AFIo
>>65797266https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdb5O1HI0hE
>>65797266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRzO9wsH-7Y
>>65797190
good shit
>>65796469
My favorite subgenre is probably Thirdstream
Black St. and the Sinner Lady
Probably not but ever white album sounds lame
Yeah probably
sad bump
Why is jazz fusion considered shit by experienced jazz listeners? I'm trying to get into jazz and I like some jazz fusion artists a lot, but mainly jazz fusion guitarists since I myself play a guitar so it's the most interesting to me
>>65802778
Because it isn't cacophonic enough.
I dislike jazz purists whose enjoyment correlates with increasing lack of discernible structure, harmony or melody.
>>65802778
Because after Bitches Brew and 6 years the genre refuses to die dspite being absolutely played out
In case anyone cares, i recently bought and uploaded a rare Italian grooving free jazz album from the 80s:
http://youtu.be/KhbH3g7SPxo
wow have you guys heard about this unknown dude?? think his name was something like cole-train??
>>65804637
like all the other jazz sub-genres aren't played out
>>65804698
Fusion is undoubtedly the most samey though
And its focused on wank and shitty EQ on the guitar
I love early fusipn but shiiiiiiiiiit it gets real bad real fast
>>65804745
Like all the other jazz sub-genres aren't focused on wank
not even trolling
>>65804768
They can be, butthey also tend to have a range where there are some real slow, lax and subtle pieces not focused on MOM, JOHN MCLAUGHLIN
What have you been enjoying from 2016?
>>65804793
alright m8, how do you into jazz even? There's so many sub-genres idk where to start, people previouly recced me some really old jazz musicians they considered essential, can't remember the names now, and I couldn't get into it, sounded really uneventful and uninteresting
>>65804848
>>65804848
Mostly you just sample around and listen to anything you can
Me working at a record store and having an entire aisle dedicated to jazz, i just constantly toss on old records and make notes of labels and artists who sound promising
Stuff on ECM tends to be real muted and "intellectual" whereas shit on India Navigations and ESP Disk tends to be avant, free, and crazy fun
>>65804848
Oh and Django is a better guitarist than your favorite guitarist
>>65805140
ok will check these out
>>65805334
he's one of my favourites
also do you guys listen to all albums of the jazz musicians you like? It's also kind of weird coming into this genre since every artist has a really huge discog
>>65802778
I just find it doesn't hit me in the feels the same way my favorite jazz records do. I like swing and implied rhythms more than obvious grooves. Also the harmony seems to fall by the wayside compared to say monk or Mingus, bill Evans etc.
>>65806106
eventually I try to, yeah. you just have to prioritize their albums by looking at who plays on them and listen to the ones first that have other players that you like.
>>65806106
As a jazz musician I can say that not all jazz musicians tend to agree in a positive way on even just 1 record. It's a pretty diverse listening group when u get to the serious jazz musicians.
>>65806106
Usually you can see the eras of when an artist was at what you would say is their peak by telling who theyre playing with
You should give a listen to as much as possible, but with any given artist be prepared for plenty of let downs
Redpill me on free-jazz, why do people pretend to like it?
>>65796469
>What's your favorite subgenre of jazz?
"post-bop" I guess. That's kind of a vague label that bleeds into a few other genres but I like the sort of music that usually gets labeled as post-bop.
>What's your overall favorite jazz album?
A Love Supreme
>Do you think race makes a difference in jazz?
Yes.
I don't think it determines quality but I think the difference in approach to the music by white folks and black folks is pretty apparent when you start looking at important figures of different races. In a broader sense aswell, people like Rudresh Mahanthappa who bring in folk influence in their music usually do so because of their ethnicity and the cultural background they were raised in. That's why we end up with movements like cuban jazz or the particular style of free jazz europeans tend to make too.
>Do you think people who play jazz have more valid opinions about it?
No. Musicians are more likely to be able to explain themselves better in a conversation about music but everyone's experience is equally valid. Even if one doesn't have the facility to explain why they like or dislike something.
>>65806347
I hate this shit. Like I get it if u don't like it, that's cool, it's your opinion and its good that you have one. Just don't say everyone who likes it is pretending or being pretentious, dude I fucking love free jazz, I probably listen to 4 or 5 free records a day. It is one of the driving forces in my life. The lack of established harmony allows the soloist to play more melodically and creatively cause he's not worried about hitting the changes. Also, if the soloist is improvising and the rhythm section wants to change something about what they're playing to create a more beautiful moment then they can, unlike when you're playing a standard. Sure all jazz has interaction but free jazz creates a more equal voice across all the instruments playing it.
>>65806347
>why do people pretend to like it?
Some people pretend to like it because they think it makes them seem more cultured.
There are a lot of people who genuinely enjoy it though. People are different and just cause you loathe something doesn't mean everyone else must be pretending to like it.
>>65806486
to be fair- he didn't say that *EVERYONE* who likes it is pretending or being pretentious.
I think it's pretty obvious that there are people (especially people on /mu/) who DO pretend to like it out of some misguided idea that inaccessibility=quality
>>65806486
>The lack of established harmony allows the soloist to play more melodically and creatively cause he's not worried about hitting the changes. Also, if the soloist is improvising and the rhythm section wants to change something about what they're playing to create a more beautiful moment then they can, unlike when you're playing a standard.
This is just flat out inaccurate. It sounds like you need to explore more jazz that isn't "free" jazz
>>65806347
I like it because it's a lot more energetic and ballistic. Sometimes you get blindsided by a track and the music just blasts you with an insane amount of force
Some free jazz is really fucking groovy and has great "danceability" in that you can nod your head as theyre goijg apeshit
But when free jazz is bad, boy is it bad
>>65806593
Dude, I teach jazz studies at a college. I know more records now then you'll hear in ur entire life. It's a concept called harmelodics, pioneered but ornette, paul bley, Mingus, and ayler. I love straight ahead and if u wanna test my knowledge of it then shoot, I love trivia/talking about any jazz. Frankly man, I think you might be the one who needs to listen more. Have u listened to ornettes shape of jazz (pretty common so I assume yes), change of the century, or this is our music? All of them are beautiful examples of using the lack of established harmony to explore more meaningful melodic content in the solos.
>>65806486
>Sure all jazz has interaction but free jazz creates a more equal voice across all the instruments playing it.
Free playing can sometimes facilitate an equal dialog but that's often not the cause in free music aswell. You look at a track like Coltrane's The Father the Son and the Holy Ghost where you can barely hear Jimmy Garrison and Pharoah Sanders spends most of the track not bothering to join in with the musical dialog and interplay and is more just interested in messing around with extended techniques while Coltrane is playing this crazy solo where he's developing a 4 note theme from near nursery rhyme simplicity to this incredibly profound and spiritual sounding mantra and engaging in interplay and playing around with what the other musicians are doing. He just steals the show completely and it's a great track but it shows that just because in free music, anyone can play what they want doesn't mean they're suddenly all equals. You can still tell a good musician from a bad musician playing free jazz but a lot of bad musicians think they can get away with not being super disciplined playing free music.
In any case, I think if you really wanna see more equal interaction in jazz, I think looking at small group recordings (regardless of style) is probably a better bet than trying to gauge which types of jazz have more interplay.
>>65806557
>>65806557
This is tru, /mu/tants do have a tendency to pretend to dig shit just to be elitist but anyone who actually enjoys the music would never be elitist about it.
What's the worst jazz album of all time?
>>65806907
Haha again, trust me, I've listened to it all, no shit, any major jazz recording from 1940 or so onward. The specific example of trane is an interesting one. The lack of ability to hear jimmy is common across man of teamed recordings, trane liked to play loud with loud musicians and the bass usually gets covered up in the mix. Im sure pharoah is laying out as a personal choice he is making to develop the tune, silence can say more than sound in a lot of cases, musically or otherwise. They let trane play at the forefront cause that's where that tune needed to go at the time, in their opinion. That's the thing about free playing, you can let it go wherever u want.
>>65805140
le epin 420 weed chart xDDDD
remember to blaze le weed or yr a fagot XDXDXD
>>65806997
kind of blue
>>65806907
Gaining freedom in music requires more disciplin, not less. I've had the misfortune of playing free tunes I've composed with pretty bad free players and it's very frustrating to have some sax player who thinks that playing free just means being noisy. I think we're really on the same page here man. If u wanna hear bad out playing listen to sonny Rollins solo on all the things u are from sonny meets hawk. Paul bley takes a masterpiece of a solo and then Rollins doesn't know what the fuck to do and it's hysterical. (Disclaimer: I love Rollins, the bridge is a masterpiece of an album and his rhythmic creativity is astounding. This specific example is just not his best.)
>>65807094
Rollins is a hack
>>65807114
see pic related
>>65807138
Haha yeah that record fucking blows. He's one of those cats that made really amazing music but instead of dying or moving into new musical territory he just kept getting worse and worse. He may have a low batting average but he has some masterpieces. Unfair to call him a hack. Now Freddie Hubbard records where he is the band leader, that dude is a hack when he isn't a side man.
>>65806867
>I know more records now then you'll hear in ur entire life.
It's kinda weird how they let a 16 year old teach at a college.
>>65807180
>Freddie Hubbard
Another serial hack. Hubbard's discography is very disappointing to go through when you're used to him in the Messengers and as a Blue Note sideman.
On the other hand, pic related is a Rollins date with Hubbard as a sideman and it's excellent. They're fantastic musicians and players, but creative hacks.
So since we apparently have so many jazz experts in this thread who's down to post some recordings of your playing?
>>65807222
Ah fuck this. I try to go on jazz threads to learn about new shit to listen to and once in awhile I do but fuck this. Im 27, I work with william Parker for fucks sake.
>>65807288
>I try to go on jazz threads to learn about new shit to listen to and once in awhile
If you really did that you wouldn't be surprised that this one is a mess
>>65806923
>but anyone who actually enjoys the music would never be elitist about it.
yeah definitely nobody who likes free jazz would ever be elitist about it.
Oh wait...
>>65806867
>>65807016
>>65807288
>>65807254
Wow, love that record man. Garrison's solo on the title track is genius, moving the tonal center of the whole form to the tri tone sub, fucking brilliant. Haha Fred's the man in the messengers and on some blue note cuts aside from his own for sure, hate his leader cuts tho.
What do you guys think about this?
Alright cats, sense im clearly getting fucked in this argument for some reason, let's talk about some records. Who are u guys checkin out these days? What do u dig about them?
>>65807344
I honestly think all the creative drive and originality from that record comes from Coltrane's rhythm section rather than the two horns. I think Miles said something about he'd rather hear Thad Jones play one wrong note than Freddie Hubbard play twelve right ones.
>>65807390
I've been checking out this series of albums Chet Baker recorded for Prestige in 1965. Really tight quintet with George Coleman and Roy Brooks.
>>65807390
I am loving this Fred Hersch album. His playing reminds me of everything I like about Bill Evans but more modern and more abstract.
Does anybody recommend any of his other albums? I have Saraband but I haven't listened to it yet.
>>65807461
kek forgot the cover
>>65807461
This one with Charlie Haden and Joey Baron is quite good, as well as his other solo Vanguard album from 2005.
>>65807444
Yeah I can agree with that comment about the horns, it's good playing by them but not great compared to some more creative players.
Ah man, ur hip, that's a good siries of Chet's stuff. The dudes language is fuckin Sliiick. I also have a soft spot for prestige, feel like the just generally do a good job. The pianos don't sound as underwater as the do on blue note from the same period.
>>65807540
Yeah that's the other one I've already got in my backlog to listen to.
>>65807540
>>65807461
Yeeaahh man, herd fresch himself haha. Beautiful player, I've listened to some of his stuff but I've been meaning to dig in deeper on him. Agree with the bill Evans comment, apperently his a huge dick tho haha. Charlie füçkÃñg haden. I literally can't say enough about one the most beautiful, swinging, authentic cats to ever pick up a bass. The fucking Montreal tapes, shit with paul bley and motian, don cherry and Blackwell. What a fucking player.
>>65807547
It's tight, expressive playing in the idiom without any of the bells and whistles that bog down a lot of 1960s jazz. Chet's tone on the flugelhorn is lovely too, shows a new side of him.
Also, is George Coleman THE underrated player? This 70s live date is the only thing I ever found with him leading. He seems excellent wherever I hear him.
>>65807634
RIP Charlie Haden
>>65807461
I don't have a ton of Fred recoomendations but maybe you'd dig some of the later paul bley stuff, have u listened to the record memoirs?
>>65807675
Ah, coleman is pretty maligned for his playing the the second quintet when Wayne wasn't playing, I don't personally dislike him but a tooooon of cats really can't stand him. Agreed tho, Chet's tone has that whispering quality similar to miles at times.
Im just glad haden left behind such a huge body of work for us to enjoy. The ornette stuff, American quartet, old and new dreams, liberation music orchestra, shit with bley, what a monster.
>>65807675
>Also, is George Coleman THE underrated player? This 70s live date is the only thing I ever found with him leading. He seems excellent wherever I hear him.
He's one of those super-sideman guys who doesn't play on much of his own but plays on some really good classic records. I've also got a live record from the 80's that he did called Live at Yoshi's. It's with Harold Mabern and Ray Drummond. Forget who's on drums.
Also he just put out a new album this year from a live Smoke recording. It's not amazing but it's a good listen.
>>65807016
It was deffinitely the right choice to make musically. Just saying, a lot of great free albums don't actually rely very heavily on the ensemble having an "equal voice" but you can look all the way back to the 20s and see dixieland chorus' where just about everyone is getting chances to express themselves to the best of their abilities and small group recordings like Armstrong and Heins' Weather Bird and you can see that non-free players are just as capable of playing beautiful and creative stuff and in special cases where ensembles can be seen to play off each other in a unison and equal voice.
I really don't think that sort of thing is specifically a function of how free you can get without playing nonsense and there are plenty of counter examples of pretty significant groups who don't play free and excellently exhibit the qualities you said are achieved better by a free approach.
Also: Pharoah laying out during Trane's solo wasn't what I was talking about. In the head, Pharoah's solo and the bits where the group is playing together; Pharoah's playing is very uninspired compared to Coltrane's and there's a massive gap in how much they each contribute to the track. That's often the case in a lot of Coltrane's recordings. I don't think Pharaoh is a spectacular musician in the first place and this is a clear instance where you can see a great free track where there isn't an equal voice and there's a guy playing free stuff that isn't particularly melodic or creative.
>>65807094
>Gaining freedom in music requires more disciplin, not less.
If you're doing it right it does. Free jazz is really fucking hard to play well.
To make the assertion that free jazz is inherently more expressive as in >>65806486
, you'd need to disregard the majority of free jazz which is comprised of dogsit tier noise made by people who don't know what they're doing.
>>65807461
Yeah Sarabande is great and you have to listen to his solo Vanguard recording like someone else said. His other ones I'd recommend are:
Whirl
Dancing in the Dark
Fred Hersch Trio plus Two (Ralph Alessi and Tony Malaby)
Free Flying is a duet with Julian Lage and it's pretty good.
>>65807634
>apperently his a huge dick tho haha
I took a lesson with him once and attended a masterclass he did after that. I wouldn't call him a dick but he's not really a friendly, warm guy. Just kind of impatient and very very serious.
>>65807783
I had no idea he had so much against him. Obviously he's no Wayne or Sam Rivers but I've always found him an interesting player who wasn't recorded enough.
>>65807855
I'll see if I can't dig those out. It's always a nice surprise to see his name pop up somewhere as a sideman. Not quite John Gilmore levels, but still nice.
>>65807898
Haha this is a lot to respond to so im just gonna do short versions.
Of course the things I think are achieved through a free approach can also be achieved in other sub genres, case and point the 2nd quintet. Yeah, pharaoh is no trane, ur not wrong haha. I think certain straight and free groups both exemplify what we're talking about. Yeah Armstrong does it very well as does Dixieland but I always think the rhythm section is limited in those styles.
Yes, free music is insanely hard to play well, requires a ton of instincts, high level of musicianship, and a very good creative ear and mind as well as technique for days.
Didn't mean to imply it is inherently more expressive, to use ur example, much of armstrongs playing is so good it makes me weep. Yeah a ton of free records are bad, very bad, but there's plenty great ones. Like is said man, we seem to be on a more similar page then you think. Also I'd like to add im sticking to the strict definition of free jazz which is just Jazz with our established harmony and form, as opposed to free music (tends to be more like 3rd steam, also great stuff) and avant garde Jazz (tends to be the noisier type)
On the subject of Fred Hersch and Bill Evans here's Hersch's Blindfold Test where he says interesting things about Evans' solo playing. Also interesting observations about Horace Silver, Jason Moran, Vijay Iyer, and Andrew HIll.
>>65808216
>584x765
This seems interesting, do you have a readable version? lmao
>>65808248
This should be a little better
>>65808158
>Didn't mean to imply it is inherently more expressive
This is what I was taking issue with and I think what the others were arguing against too so if you don't actually think this I don't think there is any disagreement.
No, I think we're very much on the same page but it's the small things that can lead to the biggest arguments among like minded people.
>>65808379
Ah, I can see where u would draw that conclusion but I didn't mean to imply it. All jazz does well is creative and beautiful. Fuck, I mean my initial reason for this whole thing was I hate when people assume that no on actually enjoys free jazz. Plenty of people really do.
>>65808299
Thanks for sharing, he makes really great points about these cats. I agree with a lot of what he says, moran usually means well but is too focused on chops.
What's a great jazz recording (in terms of sound quality) to try out a new pair of speakers?
>>65808643
pic related
>>65808643
Albums where people are playing around with cool timbres. Herbie Hancock's Sextant came into my head first.
![Zawinul-cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Z8QuEs7.jpg "Zawinul-cover[1].jpg")
Thoughts on pic related? Just getting into jazz and like this album very much.
What does /jazz/ think of pic related? I'm planning on listening to it for the first time later today. I heard it's supposed to be pretty mad for the time it was recorded.
>>65808952
Try this one next, and also Wayne Shorter's Super Nova. This is the more head-y side of the Bitches Brew group sound.
>>65808991
Hadn't heard of this, looks fascinating.
>>65808643
Pic related is pretty good to test out the bass sound. But also the best jazz recordings now are all recorded at Systems Two in Brooklyn by Mike Marciano so check out some of those. The Criss Cross label records all their music there and I think they do the best job of mixing the ensemble so pick a random one from their recent catalogue.
>>65808991
Pretty groundbreaking stuff.
>>65808991
When was it recorded f a m?
>>65809499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Glass_(Stan_Kenton_album)
Early 50s
>>65809952
Nice, I'll have to check it out. From the Wikipedia article it sounds somewhat similar to Schuller? Sorry im just starting to get in to 3rd stream, a ton of ran blake for instance.
>>65808643
art pepper + 11 (original jazz classics cd)
Best 2016 albums?
What are some really well produced Jazz albums?
what does /jazz/ think about cynic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHA8JyIzaBE
>>65811562
I dig carbon based anatomy
>>65811562
their best works are the tech-thrash demos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdF-ucKvw78
>>65811185
most cti classics.
>>65797322
>>65797443
>>65797542
Thanks a lot this is really cool stuff
>>65811104
Have you heard of masabumi kikuchi? He put out a killin record this year. There's also a well known drummer named Steve fydick whos putting put a record at the end of July. Not sure if it'll be good but he put a tune I wrote on there so it better be good haha
>>65812379
Glad you like it my man, you might also dig pretty much any miles album made after 60-61 up til bitches brew. The 2nd quintet.
>>65797090
Herbie's later funky jazz, while very artsy, didn't do it for me like his earlier works. Watermelon Man and Cantaloupe Island are two very basic (but fun) songs.
>>65813490
Eh, he's dead to me with pretty much anything after his work with miles. The trio with Ron and tony is the 70's is okay but yeah, anything after the 2nd quintet I just can't stomach.
>>65813612
>not liking the greatest HH records
Disappointed desu.
>>65815030
funniest thing on mu of the day haha
