Have we talked about this yet?
>>27909544
see you in page ten.
>>27909544
Saw it in mlpg, ignored it then, ignoring it now.
>>27909544
She's right you know
>>27909544
Once again I agree with her.
Bronys are strange? I dunno what she means.
>>27909544
Is she actually comparing Bronies to Ghostbusters because people judged it heavily? I guess she was unaware of the 7 month controversy.
Follow-up tweet: >The most amazing misperception so far? That Hollywood thinks casting women is a cash grab. I ASSURE YOU they believe the EXACT OPPOSITE
Well, if it wasn't for Feig, the media, SJW's, and Sony's shilling, rest assured that little to no people wouldn't of cared about the movie in the first place, and moved on to something different. Movies shouldn't have this much controversy behind it.
Trailers, and how people act is the key to first impression, if it has the shit the Ghostbusters movie had, do they seriously expect people to watch it? If they did, they're kidding themselves, because reverse physiology don't work out that way with most people.
People can judge Bronies all they want, but the proof is in the pudding.
>>27909691
Hasbro didn't insult the audience.
>>27909791
>Princess Cadence
>Twilicorn
>EQG
>Flurry Heart
>Flash Sent
Shall I go on?
>>27909691
I think there's more to it than that.
>>27909544
I'm disappointed that she, someone who gave a good portion of her life to making great original female characters, wouldn't see the problem in simply slapping a pussy on established male characters. It basically says "women can be strong and great as long as men do 99% of the work".
If they had made a brand new Ghostbusters with a different story I imagine it would have gone over a lot better. Have a brand new threat that only a brand new group of scientists who happen to be female can stop. That could have had a lot of potential to be a good film and become a memorable addition to the franchise.
Instead we get what is essentially a propaganda film. Either you like it and you're one of us, or you don't and you are the enemy (read misogynist).
>>27909814
>things I don't like
>>27909814
That more so your opinion.
>>27909819
>>27909820
I'm the consumer, and these things insulted me
yes, hasbro has insulted the audience
>>27909791
Exactly, that's why the comparison ishighlyflawed with GB and MLP. I can't say I'm surprised about her getting a bit upset with fan reactions because the movie has women in it...
>>27909544bustin' makes me feel good
>>27909827
t. the entire audience
t. literally everyone who watches the show
t. including the target demographic
>>27909827
They didn't directly call you an asshole.
>>27909815
What more is there? I checked her Twitter and that's all I've seen, unless you meant her being vague about what she said. I can't wait when this thing blow over about GB because that's all I've been hearing about for 7 months and it's getting annoying.
FAUCET NO
>>27909871
As I've said many time before, Faust isn't pure as people think, and right there, is one of the proof.
>>27909897
I knew she wasn't when she started releasing the pretty awful lore for TFH.
>>27909544
>>27909871
Well, there goes all my respect for Mom.
I fucking grew up with Ghostbusters -- love the sequel, too -- and seeing it turned into some abysmal pro-feminist dogshit really pains me.
Fuck Paul Feig and fuck Lauren Faust.
>>27909544
I literally have no idea what she's talking about...
>>27909913
Everyone is embarrassed / ashamed of their parents eventually. You have to accept them as they are.
>>27909871
Faustfags literally on suicide watch.
>>27909913
>love the sequel
kek
Also, have you seen the reboot yet/do you plan on watching it? Just wondering what your opinion as a fan is on it.
>>27909929
Me neither, I can't tell if she's agreeing sarcastically that we're pedos/weirdos or if that is what she legitimately thinks
>>27909970
I was hyped for the whole movie until it became a political act to go see it.
>>27909982
The movie is basically ruined to the point that no one can make an unbiased judgement on it. People are seeing it or praising it just to say "Fuck misogyny", and others are trashing it and avoiding so as to say "Fuck feminism."
If the reviews for it come out stellar, you can't say it wasn't partly because people had an agenda to promote it and make it flourish because GO WOMEN. If the reviews said it tanked and was awful, the opposite applies.
You know what this sounds like in a nutshell? The upcoming election
>>27909929
The Ghostbusters movie. If you haven't been keeping up with the controversy within the last half of the year, it's not worth looking into, save yourself the trouble.
>>27909913
>>27909899
Faust is just as hiveminded as any other feminist out there, but I will admit, she hides her P.L very well, and that is because of the fans, and the amount of support she gets with her "content"
I like her content, and always will, but I don't think I would like being around her often IRL
>implying she wouldn't wanna be around me either way
But seriously, just because you don't support the GB movie, does not mean you're a sexist jerk. Die Hard fans have a reason to be upset about this as much as she thinks.
>>27909970
I'm taking the James Rolfe stance on it. I've already seen enough to know that I'm not going to like it. Moreover, the way Sony, the mainstream media and SJWs have vilified males has disgusted me, so even if the film did have merits, I still wouldn't give it the time of day.
>>27910005
What content?
>>27910032
>What Content?
That's why I put quotes on "content"
>>27909814
YES
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>>27909867
I meant there was more to the backlash. Sorry for not being clear.
>>27909974
She's sarcastically agreeing that everyone should automatically assume all bronies are weirdos, since everyone seems to be doing the same thing with Ghostbusters: assuming the movie is bad without any grounds to do so.
It really has nothing to do with us, she is just mad about what people think of the movie.
>>27910079
That didn't look sarcastic to me, on the other hand, it's not easy picking up sarcasm through text, unless you know someone personally, or if it's pretty obvious.
Has anyone here seen it yet?
Is it as bad as we feared?
I have a free weekend and might take one for the team.
>>27910005
I LIKE the four female leads and think they are all very talented. I even really think Paul Feig's work is awesome even when I don't enjoy it.
The problem is that I totally get why people hate this movie, it should have either been a continuation if the original series (and possibly maintained its tone) or been an original setup. It feels like if someone had to make a MLP movie, they would just try to work the first Equestria Girls film into an origin story, I even like the first EQG film, but I realize I am mostly alone in that regard and need to respect others' opinions. Such as the fact that I like when dark series can handle going a far sillier, kid-friendly route.
It was clear Feig didn't want to do this movie anyway, it doesn't seem to have any love for the original despite trying to cash in on its name, but I still wanted to check it out because it was a great cast, a great director, and an awesome IP. I don't want to support it because it has women in it. I don't like that a movie that stars women in it has to be some big deal.
If anything, I think racism is a bigger issue than sexism. I think an all black Ghostbusters would be a bigger controversy than an all female one.
>>27909827
You're also a faggot and a vocal minority
>>27909544
I really want to post this in derpibooru to generate some butthurt, but this isn't pony related and they will ban me for at least three month this time
>>27909899
>pretty awful lore for TFH
I never read that lore, some examples pls?
>>27910162
It is mostly Pom's and Tianhuo's. The biggest offenders are the drawn out fart joke in Tianhuo's lore and the idea that the sheep are so retarded that every town is just called "Bah!" and the judges slam their heads against tables instead of using gavels.
Mind you this game's lore is supposed to be darker than FIMs.
>>27910122
Haven't seen it and I don't plan on it. With the amount of controversy it had, I would not be surprised if the movie didn't get half of it's revenue backor whatever it's calledit's solely up to you if you want to see it.
>>27910124
I'm not a huge fan and I can see why as well, it was a reboot nobody wanted. I also understand you're a fan of Feig, but I also find it hard to believe he didn't want to work on the movie by the way he was shilling it, insulting people, calling others sexist, etc. especially since he mostly work with females.as for EQG series, I like them all
>>27909544
She is drinking the Kool-Aid hard. I'm not even sure what is going on in her head anymore.
>this movie stars women doing boyish stuff, you must support it no matter the quality!
Wasn't she the one who said that girls' entertainment doesn't have to be stupid, cringeworthy crap? That's exactly what this movie is.
>>27910185
well... maybe Faust is only a good writer with a team and not just a solitary writer with a lot of creative freedom
>>27910002
>You know what this sounds like in a nutshell? The upcoming election
More like every political dichotomy ever. This film was made with a particular ideology in mind, it's propaganda. It's trying to push the idea that women can be the main focus too.
The problem is rather than making a new film with a female cast they transform a well loved film into a political piece about "Gurl powerz" and it gives the impression that women can't do anything without men doing most of the work.
Can't we make our own fucking shit for once?
>>27910221
>Wasn't she the one who said that girls' entertainment doesn't have to be stupid, cringeworthy crap? That's exactly what this movie is.
Citation needed, have you seen the movie?
>>27910005
What the fuck does Die Hard have to do with Ghostbusters?It's a joke
>>27909897
Nobody is perfect.
>>27909871
c'mon lady..
>>27910221
>I'm not even sure what is going on in her head anymore.
After a miscarriage and quiting of two project(FiM and Medusa), the only thing that she have now is a kickstarter project and the feminist that follow her.
She don't need to hide her powerlevel anymore.Now everybody can see the real Lauren Faust
>>27909814
Hasbro doesn't actively call bronies manchildren or useless, or make fun of them in the series. As much as you hate them like an edgy teenager thinking his parents are idiots, Hasbro still likes you guys, believe it or not. Hence why they do things like Slice of Life, convention reveals and so on.
Ghostbusters on the other hand went out of its way to insult its audience numerous times.
>>27910256
>the only thing that she have now is a kickstarter project and the feminist that follow her.
Elaborate..
>>27910256
>medusa
She quit that movie too?
Why?
>>27910277
More 'creative differences' if I remember correctly.
>>27910256
TFH is a indiegogo project
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/them-s-fightin-herds
Faust just a writer, not the actual creator
>>27910264
>Hasbro still likes you guys, believe it or not.
But they love money more, which is why MLP is still here. Such a shame they kicked their other shows that was a success.
>>27910277
Yup, between February and March, because, and I quote: "creative differences"
>>27910277
Just like hasbro, a lot of stress and the creative differences. They just need to give all the creative freedom to faust to make a great movie, but sony don't like money
>>27909544
People can fuck up like this and still be good, but youd think faust of all people would see why people hate the new characters
>>27910311
I only partially agree, if they gave the writers creative freedom, who knows what the others could've done, like what Whitley tried to do with Discord. it's a double edge sword, and companies do not like taking risk as much as writers like pushing boundaries with shows oftenlooking at you, Mr. Pickles
>>27910311
Faust isn't that great, she haw flaw and need some supervision.
>>27910329
>like what Whitley tried to do with Discord
Now this sound interesting. what he want to do with discord?
>>27910218
The opening weekend is projected to be pretty mediocre so it's not looking like it will be a success.
And lots of people have reported nearly empty theatres on opening day.
I might go see it just for a laugh.
>>27910122
Don't give it any money, it's for the good of humanity. I don't like to judge something without seeing it either, but the broad spectrum shilling of this movie has completely turned me against it, I hope it flops for that reason alone
>>27910354
not the same anon, but probably this
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2016/07/bronycon-coverage-mlp-idw-comic.html
>He talked about two story ideas of his that Hasbro declined. The first was a story involving Discord's long lost sister named Order. I'm not sure if he was serious about that one, he started to go into detail about how Order was going to put Discord on trial for what he did during the events of Twilight's Kingdom. The second was an idea to delve into Zecora's backstory. Hasbro didn't want the comics to go into that one since they want the option open to have the show explore that themselves.
>>27909913
>he loves Ghostbusters 2
>but hates the reboot because muh Paul Fieg and muh feminism
This is very definition of shit taste. This one was mediocre, but nowhere near as terrible as Ghostbusters II. Which was in turn nowhere near as horrific as the rather impressive fedora collection you likely own.
>>27910405
>This one was mediocre, but nowhere near as terrible as Ghostbusters II
Did the second one have pussy fart jokes?
>>27910431
please tell me the new one doesn't have pussy fart jokes
>>27910444
It opens with one
>>27910301
They're a toy company, of course they keep things making money. Why are you surprised?
>>27910461
Because they could kept faust and make even more money, but no, they just eliminate faust from the staff and put that "yes woman" meghan mccarty
>>27910461
Eh, I'm not. I just hate when companies can good shows in despite of low toy sales instead of your average low ratings, but as you said, they are a toy company, and they all work differently.
>>27909871
Lauren... no. Why? That's a terrible, one sided, agenda driven opinion. I thought you were better then that. I think this is the first time I'm genuinely disappointed in you.
>>27910005
>I like her content, and always will, but I don't think I would like being around her often IRL
It hurts to say it, but now I think I can agree with this. Makes you think, are these the kinds of feelings that drove her and the FiM team apart?
>>27910405
What the fuck is wrong with Ghostbusters II? The story isn't as strong as the first film's, and it's a lot more lighthearted, but at least the cast has chemistry, and there's genuinely funny moments. From what I've seen and heard, the reboot has none of that. It's just a perpetual stream of low-brow Adam Sandler-esque humor and shit dialogue.
>>27909871
Seems like mom is having a really bad day.
>>27909544
But brony's are weirdos and/or perverts?
>>27910530
>are these the kinds of feelings that drove her and the FiM team apart
Since when is she apart from the MLP team? I had the impression she still likes the people she worked with.
Or do you mean this being a reason that made her quit? In that case, it's possible, but I don't think so. As far as we know, she left mostly due to the stressful schedule.
>>27910530
>are these the kinds of feelings that drove her and the FiM team apart?
Wish I can have a legitimate answer, but all I can say is possibly. It's how I feel with most people in the fandom now-a-days, It's the best way to prevent arguments from happening. Like, I know how easily things like feminism angers me because how it's portrayed, so I rather avoid people who are like that because I know we won't get along. It's going to be very rare to have differences and still have a good bond.
But I have heard that Lauren is a nice lady, she just have shit opinions regarding things like feminism because she is a feminist.
>>27910589
If they had already made the Twilicorn decision before she left then that was one big divergence from her idea of the fim world
>>27910532
>Octavarius likes Ghostbusters 2
I rest my case. If this cancerous retard likes it, then you can be sure it's shit.
>>27909871
MOM NO THAT'S NOT MISCARRIAGES YOU'RE EATING THAT'S LIBERAL PROPAGANDA
>people are upset that Faust is extremely pro-women in media
She's been fighting old execs almost her entire career to allow her, and others, to make shows with female leads. She's been told, for almost 30 years straight, that her ideas aren't good, aren't interesting, aren't profitable unless they have male leads in it.
To her, this is everything. The poor reaction to Ghostbusters means the chance of making a movie, or a show, with an all-female cast, moves further away from her. These are her dreams you're talking about.
I don't get why anyone wouldn't be that passionate about a topic, given the circumstances.
>>27910748
>>27910748
but he is right
the main problem of GB2 was being more of the same.
i saw ghostbusters and the sequel, and the sequel was just ghostbusters again. you can do a great thing about a team of nerds go and hunting ghosts, but you can't go far of the main idea: guys hunting ghosts until a demigod appears and they have to send him back to whatever dimmension it came.
James Rolf was right when he said the sequel was very soon, it needed some time so they could comeback because of nostalgia, but since the studio just said "take the wave while it's up", they didn't saw you can't do too much with the concept
i don't see GhostBusters 2 as bad, i see it just underrated and crushed by his own concept
>>27909871
>if you care about women, support shit quality movies!
I'm 100% behind this.
When are we going to make a movie about Hitler being a big-titted supermodel who succeeds in taking over the world? I want to show my support for women's struggles by supporting the mass killing of Jews!
>>27910840
I thought she was more classic egalitarian than modern feminist "Wimminz can be funny too". She should be able to tell the difference between actual constructive work and ridiculous pandering
>yfw Faust's next big tweet isshilling for Hillary solely because she's a woman
>>27910919
>>27910748
Classic image.jpg
>>27910932
In all fairness, I wouldn't expect her to shill Trump.
>>27910932
Ughhh
>>27909827
That someone took offense does not prove the act was meant to offend.
>>27910879
Vigo the Carpathian was a fun character, gotta give props to Max von Sydow.
>>27909871
Faust, if you want us to believe that feminists can be good, you must not reinforce the associated negative stereotypes by acting in a way that supports them. Telling us we have to speak well of a poorly made movie because of its cast's gender only hurts your image and, by extension, your cause.
This kills the feminism.
Maybe she sympathies with the Ghostbusters reboot because the threatres showing it are just a barren as she is.
>>27910961
It certainly was not intended to offend
but negligence is not a valid excuse to wrongdoingunless you're hillary clinton
>>27910991
HEYO!
>>27910991
meh
>>27909871
>>27910185
>sheep can't be that retarded, its just laziness from the writer
Anon, I think you don't know anything about sheep
>is supposed to be darker than FIMs
That doesn't mean that it has to be super serious, the only "darker" part of the lore is the relationship of the predators with the ungulates
>>27909871
She's gone insane
>>27910991
Barring the tweet in >>27909871, everything she's said is completely sensible.
Can anyone do a correct TLDR about what's happening?
Because everything in this thread seems retarded.
Ghostbusters got a new movie, people are mad because blablabla there's a girl in it blablabla feminist pandering, and Faust just said the same shit she always says, but since she's defending the controversial movie she's the bad guy now?
What's happening???
>>27911556
She's saying everyone should go see it, regardless of whether they're interested in it or not, because it stars women
>>27911580
Because she thinks the women in the movie are a good role model, and that's the exact kind of shit she always has done?
Would you be mad if Stan Lee tweeted about BvS being good and that you should watch it?
Or if someone from disney tweeted that the new shrek was good?
Is this a new kind of autism or something? I really don't get it.
Guess I'll just watch it and see why are people so autistic about it.
>>27911556
Lauren is essentially implying that "quality" doesn't matter for the sake of promoting more women in primary roles.
Personally I think both sides have been acting retarded, since feminists have been padding the movie's scores with positive reviews to promote their agenda and blaming negativity solely on "misogyny", and people who hated it to begin with more often cite some e-celeb faggot's review on youtube and express their need to latch on to other people's thoughts and opinions rather than forming their own.
>>27910998
I was under the impression that calling things offensive when they weren't intended to be was not an encouraged practice around here.
>>27911621
She said that not wanting to see the movie means you don't care about women. The issue with that statement should not be hard to perceive.
>>27911914
There are people on this board who hate Newbie Dash because "it encourages bullies by showing them they aren't wrong for bullying and it's the victim's fault."
The userbase here is fucked six ways to Sunday.
>>27909544
It's not a comment on bronies, it's a comment on Ghostbusters using an analogy referencing them to describe what she's saying is faulty logic.
Those of you drumming up shit about "Mom" disowning you are pulling pages from the SJW handbook and twisting shit she says just because you're butthurt she disagrees with you about a movie.
>>27911621
Essentially, here's what happened:
An all female ghostbusters reboot is announced. /tv/, being the collection of fedora owning Reddit manchildren that they are, freaked out. Reddit also freaked out. Because women can't possible star in anything.
Then the marketing department for the movie cut together like the worst possible trailer, fueling the rage of the manchildren and causing casual observers, like me, to question whether the movie might in fact suck
Finally, the movie was released to mixed to positive reviews. Many, many autismo gentlesirs slammed it's IMDB page with negative reviews despite not having seen it, irritating feminists like Faust. Faust has, upon a complete review of her Twitter feed today taken the following positions on the whole thing:
1. Don't hate on the movie if you haven't seen it.
2. Yes, the marketing sucked, but the movie is still good. (She compared it to when she was working on the Iron Giant, a movie that was good but had a god-awful trailer for it.)
3. Even if you don't really like the idea of the movie, you have to go see it because girls need role models. (This has since been walked back to 'do what you want, but it would be helpful to women if you went to see it so please go.)
>>27911975
I don't want to give Sony my money because of the awful marketing campaign.
What the hell is the problem with R63 Ghostbusters? I don't see why people are so angry. It's a reboot, did people really expect it to be better than the original?
>>27911975
Thats all well and good but it makes it sound like they're fighting a losing battle, or that they're the underdog in this situation. Every major media outlet, every journalist, comedy news show, basically all mainstream opinion formers came out heavily behind this film in a concerted effort to promote it in the most stupid, reactionary way imaginable. The whole ordeal has been massively destructive and polarising.
>>27912014
The marketing killed it. Understandably people are pissed when you insult them.
speak of the devil
>>27911975
Thanks, that's better.
So yeah, mom just acted stupid on the 'go see it coz girls, make the world a better place!' and nothing else.
Still don't get why people are so butthurt about that, and if you don't understand the whole 'girl needs more roles other than the hero's fuckmate' that's generally happening right now, you can just... I dunno, kill yourselves, maybe?
Sure she said it in a "retarded way' but that's twitter, and she's the kind of person that don't 'think' about all of the autistic manchildren continually stalking her tweeter/facebook/whatever.
So yeah, she's still mom, she just said something stupid.
>>27912026
Yes, but they did that in reaction to the Internet manchild freakout. Those dickwads are the ones who politicized the movie months before anything beyond a couple of publicity photos were available. If the woman-haters want to find someone to blame for this movie to morphing into a referendum on feminism, then they have no further to look than their mirrors. And there are plenty of big publications that put out lukewarm and even negative reviews. Richard Roeper, for example, gave it a scathing 1-star evisceration.
>>27912083
Her attitude drives me away from seeing the film. I can't support the cast for being good, no I have to support the cast because they are women.
I am annoyed because a movie I wanted to see... I actively want to see fail because I am so annoyed by the marketing campaign and this shitstorm that is outrageously stupid.
>>27912114
Most people hated it because it looked terrible.
>>27912083
Stop white knighting.
>>27909544
Out of curiosity, what does Bill Murray, Akroyd & Co. think about the movie?
>>27912044
When did they insult people? I missed this
>>27912163
https://youtu.be/6aQTJw1wlQ8
>>27912162
They gave a huge amount of support, but many question how honest they are being given how forced the movie seems.
>>27909871
I don't understand how a woman can grow old without realizing how patronizing ideas like this are to women.
By attributing value to a piece of media solely because it has women in it is saying that woman are like children who are to be praised just for existing. It's saying that, like a child, they need praise for doing something just because they did it, and not because it has any outside merit.
Combine that with the notion that this movie is supposed to be appealing to men and those who don't like it are misogynists. Queef jokes, sexism/racism jokes, pretty boy secretary, Fall Out Boy, 5 Seconds of Summer, a fat female comedian, a stereotypical black woman, a you go girl obnoxious woman, and a seemingly normal woman written to have the same bra-burning humor as the others does not at all say that this is a movie made to appeal to men.
Are feminists going to start calling men who don't want to watch The Real Housewives, Pretty Little Liars, and Keeping Up With The Kardashians evil misogynists now?
>>27912158
>White knighting
Do you even know what it means?
Stop trying to be edgy cuz 'internet is for the boiis xd'
>>27912116
But Faust isn't affiliated with the movie in ANY WAY.
If the movie is good you'll just miss it, if it's bad you'll never know why.
I get why you could be 'annoyed' by what's happening, but just 'not going to see it even if I want' is just autistic.
Like, REALLY autistic, even for this board.
>>27912194
Oh I will see it, just on-demand streaming.
That way I can view it with a more clean mind and don't have to support that awful marketing campaign.
>>27912194
>What is home video
>>27912114
Even still, most of the reviews are more a criticism of the shitstorm than of the film itself, in the "Ha, take that!" kind of way. The "I'm very obviously shilling" kind of way. The whole girl power! women can be funny too, movement makes being a woman sound like a disability and does them a disservice IMO. There a lots of talented women out there that don't need to be shoehorned into a sort of casus belli to prove their worth.
Also, as a side note on this movie being a feminist victory. Rule one of SJWs,
>Never Give Them Anything, They Will Find a Reason To Complain About It Not Being Enough
>>27912194
She is literally saying go see it because there are women in it. Also, insulting someone who is frustrated about not seeing a movie because he doesn't like how insulting the marketing is is just retarded.
>>27912194
You know movies don't disappear after they leave theatres.
>>27912174
Holy shit Sony.
>>27910840
>means the chance of making a movie, or a show, with an all-female cast, moves further away from her.
But she did make a show with an all female cast
My Little Pony
And also the Power Puff Grills
And the reactions from people on those Them's Fightin Herds streams certainly isn't negative, and all the characters on that are female
>>27912252
I don't like all female or male casts to be honest.
So is the movie bombing?
>>27910840
If its in demand, its profitable, simple as.
A couple of weeks ago I asked a girlfriend of mine "Would you watch a James Bond style action movie with a female lead? and she said she definitely would. Thats great, if more girls share that opinion then you have a market, that goes for all other demographics too.
The problem with purposely re-gendering or changing the race/background of a character is that you are telling the world "I have no faith in this idea as an independent entity". You are trying to get the already established fanbase to get on board and give you their money. Its like moving a team from NY to Texas and expecting everyone to still support it, and calling them bitter assholes for not doing so.
All studios care about is money. If strong female leads is what will make money, strong female leads is what you will get. Women need to vote with their feet and get their asses on theatre seats if they want things to change. Changing a franchise and expecting pre-existing fans to essentially subsidise its existence, in this case getting men to subsidise a female movie (and yes it IS a female movie, most of its jokes are geared towards girls and the characters are female-tropes that girls can relate to), is fucked up. People don't like to have their intelligence insulted, especially fat nerds who like Ghostbusters.
>>27912333
17mil opening day
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=ghostbusters2016.htm
Actually quite nice, but not great.
Like not a total waste, but they probably don't want to take the risk of make a sequel
>>27912387
why would they make a sequel anyways?
>>27912482
To start a franchise.
>>27912387
That's actually terrible. Especially when the flick is 140 mil, and marketing easily doubles it. Sony needs this movie to rake in at least 300,000,000 to break even, disregarding marketting.
I totally blame sony for all the bad advertisement
>>27911975
Sorry, wake me up when women learn to make something for themselves instead of plastering vaginas onto male characters.
>Ooh we are strong independent women, so long as men do 99% of the work.
Honestly it's a miracle you children even earn 79 cents to our dollar. Fuck if I know how you manage to be the largest spenders but I guess that's just patriarchy.
>>27909871
I am very disappointed
>>27912520
13 Mil sounds a lot, how great is a box office Opening day?
>>27912587
Ow_the_edge.jpg
>>27912672
they were expecting about 50, so not good at all
>>27912672
Thursday/Friday ticket sales weren't too hot, 17M total and lots of empty theaters. Similar performance from other movies resulted in a final box office gross of like 90M at worst and 400M at best, but Ice Age and Star Trek come out next week and Suicide Squad comes out a few weeks after that which might kill whatever legs Ghostbusters may have had. It also won't get a China release.
Paul Feig himself said this probably needed to gross like 500M to make the studio any kind of real money. He may have just been saying that hoping it would get people to see, but that's not too out of this world in this day and age with out of control marketing budgets that aren't included in the listed budget. At this point I'd be surprised if it even recoups the listed budget
>>27911143
To be fair, movie premiers don't have a decent house unless it's something good being released like a Disney & Pixar MovieZootopia and Finding DoryI say give it a few more days for better results, if it don't improve, then we know it officially flopped.
>>27912026
That headline sounds like something The Mary Sue would write. I really hate how the media boils down with gurl power and feminism within the last several years, it kills what sanity people have left with content, and it drives people away when they say something like that.
>>27912194
But Faust didn't give a legitimate reason WHY people should see the movie other than it has girls in it. I can see if she gave it a legitimate critique, which makes me think, if Feig DID continue the series like fans wanted the most, would she even care? Would she complain the movie doesn't have that many women and they're still backseat driving in Hollywood movie?
Feig's actions for the last 7 month was more autistic than any other movie I've seen that had controversy in the past. Hell, even I seen this coming in 2016 when they first announce it, but I didn't know it would be THIS huge.
>>27910840
>She's been told, for almost 30 years straight, that her ideas aren't good, aren't interesting, aren't profitable unless they have male leads in it.
Citation fucking needed, because I'm calling bullshit right now.
>The poor reaction to Ghostbusters means the chance of making a movie, or a show, with an all-female cast, moves further away from her.
How so? She made plenty of "content" with an all female cast, have you not noticed the episodes she wrote on PPG, the one with Fem Fetale, Possibly Major Man, and the Justice League? If that furthers her dream away because people don't want to see the movie, then that's just pathetic.
>>27912190
>a fat female comedian, a stereotypical black woman
This is one of the big turn offs to me. Sorry, but I HATE the ultra stereotypical "Angry fat black women" Stereotype, because those people are HORRIBLY annoying in real life.
Not saying "black women are terrible" but THAT SPECIFIC STEREOTYPE, when you actually run into one that exists, is horribly grating.
Its like having a Movie about a fat white redneck guy; Why the fuck would I want to go see a movie about one of them when they're some of the worst people imagineable?
>>27912946
>How so? She made plenty of "content" with an all female cast, have you not noticed the episodes she wrote on PPG, the one with Fem Fetale, Possibly Major Man, and the Justice League?
Probably she actually don't enjoy that her shows have a fanbase where the males are more huge than the females.
After all, nobody will talk in the news and blog about your female fanbase, just about the weird mans that actually like a cartoon for childrens
Maybe even her "i want to create cartoons for the whole family" was only a lie
>>27912984
>Probably she actually don't enjoy that her shows have a fanbase where the males are more huge than the females.
So, you mean deep down inside, there's a chance that she hoped MLP would have more women audience than males? Ouchies.
Are we allowed to make threads about whatever the fuck we want so long as someone tangentially related to the show made a tweet about it? well fuck me, hope someone made a tweet about trump
>>27910375
>I don't like to judge something without seeing it either, but the broad spectrum shilling of this show has completely turned me against it, I hope it flops for that reason alone
Gee. Where have I heard this one before...
>>27912946
>If that furthers her dream away because people don't want to see the movie, then that's just pathetic
Not that anon, but as a writefag here who has put shit I gave my best effort at writing out there only for it to either fall off the board with hardly any response or gets ignored in a general when one of the "oldfags" starts posting puts a bit of a damper on my enthusiasm and I can kind of see where she (Lauren) is coming from if that's the case.
>>27912984
>After all, nobody will talk in the news and blog about your female fanbase, just about the weird mans that actually like a cartoon for childrens
That actually make sense
>>27909871
And to think I said mom was one of the rare good feminists
>>27913072She never was.
>>27909871
She played us like a damn fiddle!
>>27909871
I am of disappoint
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>>27909871
Source or never happen. Anybody can make a fake tweet
>>27913149
sure
https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/754386125192437760
>Girls can't identify with male characters
I looked up to and loved media with female characters in it as a kid, hell, I liked some franchises that were girl-targeted. What's the excuse little girls have?
>>27912344
This this, so much this
Fuck Supergrill
they've been doing this with black men more recently, but not in comics (come on comic industry, it might just work...)
What needs to happen is a strong, original story with a strong female lead. That's all it takes. MLP:FiM is a perfect example of this.
She's one of them now. Sooner or later, the moderate feminists become these 'MUH WYMYN STRONK' feminists.
fuck
>>27913201
>have very few female heroes to look up to beides princesses
How heartbreaking would be her reaction when one of her females creation turn into a princess?
>>27913201
>muh representation
I am so fucking sick of hearing about representation. Nobody fucking cares. It's media. It doesn't reflect real life. We don't need to bend over backwards and add token characters for the sake of representation. Because it doesn't fucking matter.
>>27913235
Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure she's been like this for some time. Something I heard about she bitches constantly about comics or some shit.
>>27913240
Check the archives.
/mlp/ has turned on itself. The Ouroboros is eating its own tail, and soon it will gobble itself up.
Get fucked. All of you.
>>27913201
>Sends a message
It seems to me she doesn't want to admit that the majority don't.
Also just because the girl heroine are princesses doesn't mean they're bad role model. Brave, Frozen, even Tangled had strong women figures, and nobody was shocked because they were awesome.
This however, handled it terribly from its inception. The message they wan't isn't "It's a good film and proves that having girls doesn't stop it from being a good film" it's "It's made by feminists with a cast full of feminist, so it HAS to be good right? RIGHT? YOU SEXIST JERK."
And she's playing that game right now.
Jeez faust, you REALLY REALLY need a kid by now, or you'll end up doing our worst nightmare: lurk Tumblr all day.
>>27913201
Lauren want to be the new meghan?
>>27913262
>/mlp/ has turned on itself
I can give you the exact date that happened:Feb 16 2012 :^)
How many faustfags are still around after this?
>>27913009
Loopholes are great, are they not?
>>27913235
Faucet pls.
>>27913248
>Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure she's been like this for some time. Something I heard about she bitches constantly about comics or some shit.
She has, but again, she hides her P.L very well. My eyes have been opened when shirtgate happened in 2014 and she proclaimed it as sexist because it has sexy women on it, that made me believe she's no different than any other feminist out there.
I don't know anything about her and comics.
>>27913201
I'll say it again. If you want good female characters, MAKE good female characters. There have been plenty of action movies with original strong female leads. Teach girls to make something of themselves rather than piggy back off of men.
>>27913306
Right, the whole thing with the shirt.
That was the instant I knew she was no better.
>>27909871
Can't believe i supported this treacherous feminist cunt all this time...
It's time to move on I guess, tonight I will downlad seasons 3, 4, 5, 6 and the three equestria girls movies.
What should I be expecting? I know the whole alicorn shit but are the songs at least good?
>>27913326
>If you want good female characters, MAKE good female characters
She create twilight but hasbro turn her into a princess, something against Faust plan
>>27913009
>>27913306
They actually tried closing loopholes on /v/ that allowed e-celeb and gossip threads, but the vocal manchildren with nothing better to do with their lives than bitch about other people's lives threw a tizzy about "board culture".
Personally wished they'd be so strict on all boards about specific hobbies and interests, if I'm being honest.
>>27913297
You're not wrong.
>>27913365
You're right she did make Twilight, not to mention the rest of the mane six as well as Celestia, Luna etc. And this is exactly why I'm so disappointed that she would support a film that does nothing more than trade a cock for a cunt and call it a day. I expected more from her than this.
>>27913306
>shirtgate
I only started watching the show the December before last so I didn't know about this but damn, how disgraceful. If I knew that I probably wouldn't have admired her as I did.
>>27913357
3 is kind of weak but it has some of my favorite episodes as far as repeat viewings go. Also the music in the finale (wings) is pretty great imho.
It starts to get better from there on out, with a few exceptions.Although as someone who started watching after season 3 I have to say that season one and two had some pretty shit episodes. "Cutie Mark Chronicles"? More like six squandered backstories tied together by Rainbow Dash being a living god.
>>27913510
Holy shit, you're a pretty dedicated autist, aren't you?
>>27913510
T-that's my fetish
>>27913523
>someone who started watching after season 3
>Cutie Mark Chronicles is a bad episode
Why is this combination of positions so common?
>>27909871
Gonna to save this to use later
>>27912980
This.
In the original the black guy was a John Everyman. His ethnicity wasn't played to for laughs or even acknowledged in any way. He was a job applicant who got in way over his head but stuck it through.
The use of the stereotypical angry fat black woman is a big step backwards for the franchise.
>>27913576
I get that at the time you guys were desperate for more lore, not to mention wondering if there would even be a season 2, and having all that back story rapped up in a tight little episode probably seemed great at the time. It doesn't surprise me that it's a favorite of many long time fans.
But looking at it from my perspective it just looks like a clusterfuck of wasted opportunity for fully developed back stories.
>Fluttershy falls out of the sky and literally lands on her life's calling and sings a song about it.
>Rainbow Dash does a godly feat no pony has ever done, nor will do and becomes pony jesus. Why do you oldfags complain about Twilight becoming a princess again?
>Rarity ruins a bunch of costumes with her obsession with gemstones = element of generosity?1?!?!
The rest of the stories could have been sick episodes on their own but the ones listed above are inexcusably shit.
>>27909871
You faggots are blowing this way out of proportion. At worst she's saying if you care about women you'll give it a watch before saying how much you hate it. I'm personally still on the fence whether I want to go see it but I'm not gonna call it shit until after I watch it, even though I usually avoid reboots since I saw Robocop.
>>27913783
It doesn't matter if it's shit or not. The problem is that it's an agenda driven movie. No body wants to touch it with a ten foot pole.
>>27913783
Welcome to the internet.
>>27913828
This.
>>27912014
The problem is that women aren't funny. Ever.
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2007/01/hitchens200701
>>27913828
>It doesn't matter if it's shit or not
No anon, it's everything. It's the difference between the movie being forgotten in a week and it being held up as an example that directors can make more reboots, only now with more fat loud women.
>The problem is that it's an agenda driven movie
You say that like the first Ghostbusters didn't have conservitive agendas hiding behind its hilarity.
>>27913846
Shutup pankie puffs
What I don't understand is why is it Ghostbusters the hill that feminist want to fight on? Why not promote original girl's properties like Miraculous Ladybug. Here we have a show with a strong, smart, capable, confident, endearing, totally cute, realistically proportioned, non-sexualized, ethnic minority, female heroine. It's got the whole package, and yet the only people who seem to be championing it are gay boys on /co/.
Not that I want Miraculous to become a feminist stomping ground, because that'd be annoying, but still.
If the movie had a *different* all female cast (and a different director), I'd be more willing to go see it. Tina Fey would have been a perfect R63!Venkman.
>>27909913
I lost respect for her way back when that guy who landed a god-damned spacecraft on a motherfucking comet was harassed by tons of rabid feminists, and she supported them, only speaking out against the most extreme comments.
Frankly, "appropriate dress" would be for the scientist to show up drunk, still drinking, with a party hat and maybe a few sparklers.
"Do people look past your accomplishments and only see the clothes you're wearing?" is supposed to be some kind of feminist "look at how oppressed I am!" question, but I think this is far, far more relevant. Fuck making history for our entire species, his shirt has pictures of attractive women on it. That means he hates women.
>>27914449
>Why not promote original girl's properties like Miraculous Ladybug.
Because the mere existence of cat boypussy ruin the atmosphere of the feminist. Maybe the SJW would be attracted by this cartoon but isn't popular enough
>>27914449
It's the flavor of the month right now because of the constant controversy.
>>27913955
>It's the difference between the movie being forgotten in a week and it being held up as an example that directors can make more reboots,
I don't believe the quality of the film will have any impact on its legacy. It's pretty much cemented itself as "that film that cast women in male roles because women good".
>only now with more fat loud women.
I have no doubt that there will be more films like this because;
Feminist: The fact that everyone hates this is proof that we need this.
>>27914449
>Why not promote original girl's properties like Miraculous Ladybug.
This this this!
A perfect example of an original character that should be in the limelight for good female protagonists. I agree that it would suck if it became a feminist stomping ground but at least I could agree with their taste.
>>27909544
I just hope she doesn't talk about "representation for women and girls" much.
Look at even the most stereotypical masculine and boy-targeted show that's in the mainstream. They all have at least one female character who's on the hero squad and has the same level of respect and super powers as everyone else.
Hell, they're frequently super strong, super skilled badasses that the male characters can't really beat except for maybe the dumb brute strength character. Think of the sackpeople from the movie 9. [Pic related. It's the character with the skull helmet and spear in the front.]
Even Power Rangers, a show focused on action, monsters, fighting, and explosions, always has at least one female character on the squad.
The only show with an all-male main cast I can think of is Metalocalypse. They have like 2-3 guys voicing everyone. Even some of the female characters. Keep in mind that this show isn't something intended for mainstream general audiences, and that it's got a low budget.
How many active male characters are there on MLP? Spike's a mix of a son, brother, pet, and slave. Big Mac's basically nothing more than a dumb workaholic. Every superpowered male character (Sombra, Discord, Tirek, etc.) is evil. The kind of evil that the corruption-blasting elements of harmony don't erase from a person. Starswirl is noteable, but Celestia basically confirmed that he's just a shitty, failed version of Twilight.
Back when there were only two alicorns who formed the sum total of MLP mythology, it made sense for them to both be female. But with 5 alicorns out so far, and with them being crapped out roughly once a season, there's no good diagetic reason for none of them to be male.
Double-talk about how everyone else needs to give representation to my pet group, while I don't have to give reciprocal representation of your groups makes me lose all respect for the hypocrite.
>>27914628
>back when there were only two alicorns
>>27909871
Hasbro did gud by giving the show to mccarthy
Lauren must have a mental breakdown after ppg movie and she wasnt sane enough to run the series
>>27910122
You going to watch the movie or allahu ackbar lauren faust?
>>27914628
>there's always a girl on the squad and she's badass.
I call those characters "magic vaginas". They're strong, confident, wisecracking, and they don't have any apparent flaws other than the fact that they're not the main character or they just don't believe in themselves enoughRainbow Dash.
>How many active male characters are there on MLP?
In the first two seasons Spike got abused constantly. Either Twilight pushes him around or Rarity manipulates him. And what about Big Mac? He started out as a big brother character to Applejack. He gave advice and spoke full sentences. Somewhere along the line they thought it would be better if Big Mac were just a two line gag character.
Other than Discord there isn't really a strong, influential male character and yet men and boys still manage to identify with the cast. Why is it so hard for women to identify with male characters the same way?
>>27914628
What about Sunburst and Shining Armor?
>>27910185
The fucking cookie has crumbled, m8
No wonder hasbro coudnt take this shit anymore
>>27910311
I think both hasbro and medusa crew just coudnt handle her feminist bitching
>>27910354
Whitley wanted to give discord a sister called order and also canonise flutterdash
Her begging for people to see a clusterfuck of a movie "just because women" is frankly insulting.
Especially since every liberal leaning media outlet has tried so hard to beat people into submission over the idea that not liking this movie or wanting to see it makes you a bad person. Make something original with women and give people a reason to see it, instead of piggybacking off the success of an established franchise. Glad to see people seem to be voting with their wallets and avoiding this thing.
>>27914449
Because women think little of cartoons as they're for children and manchildren unless said cartoons were indoctrinating on matters like homosexuality, or at least something political with good animation like Korra, which at its ending hinted that Korra became gay.
>>27914748
Sunburst at current has no development and served only as a connection to Starlight's past and development.
Shining's a good brother and husband, but like Sunburst, very little development but enough to stand out with Big Mac.
>>27914786
That's what I believe as well.
>>27914449
I might have to look into this movie.
>>27914449
>I don't believe the quality of the film will have any impact on its legacy
That's true if you meant the complete opposite.
>>27914901
>we're approaching facebook grandma levels of uncomfortable pushy polite posting
You are getting a hard maybe and you are going to like it.
>>27913300
her ranting makes my dick hard so no problems here
>>27912344
THIS
>>27914790
>canonise flutterdash
[Citation needed]
>>27913300
Well I'm about as staunch a feminist as I can be without going full neo-second wave, so I honestly give no fucks. Although that initial tweet that implied that you don't care about women if you don't go see ghostbusters was just a tad over the line.
>>27915056
>>27914901
This is fucking pathetic
https://youtu.be/a66Lx5-95KY
This is why I don't want to see the film.
>>27915512
That's such a shit ship though. RD and AJ is way more obvious
>>27916900
I don't mind the ship personally, but if you're going to have a ship don't make it for political reasons.
>>27916900
Shit taste senpai.
>>27915056
>movie
It's a TV show, actually
>>27909871
>>27914901
I lost all my respect for faust
>>27917055
Yeah, but it would probably drive Nightly Rainbow Dash Thread anon to suicide, which would be hilarious.
>>27913783
Seems like OP did blow it out of proportion according to her recent, follow-up tweets, but the words she was saying before that what >>27909871 posted, Shook things up a lot more, because it looked like she was implying We should see it because it has women in it.
She could be sarcastic about it, who knows, but again, that's the internet for you, if you don't know anyone personally, people will take what you say seriously unless it's obvious you're just fucking around. On the other hand, we do know how she is with content that involves women. So i'll say this again: if the film didn't have female roles? Would she give a shit?
The only time I noticed she was messing around was what >>27911143 posted because it's obvious, but like I always say: first impression is the key.
But this is what I hate about the world now, everything that involves women ALWAYS have to do something with feminism now more than it ever did many, many years ago.
I'm aware this isn't anything new, but it was never this loud, and this is why I do despise it, because not everything need to have feminism in it, plenty of content has female leads that people can, and will look up to, they just don't care and like to start shit. I miss the good days when I can easily enjoy content without seeing things like this because it taints it. Feminism has not been making things better, but the opposite.
>>27918786
>the tweet
HA. I fucking called it. She was probably drunk posting, just like me on the weekends.
Also has she tweeted her opinion of the movie after seeing it and possibly her review of it's pros and cons?
>>27918895
She has not, the only thing she said after seeing the movie is what >>27914901 posted. I'm not surprised about her response.
>>27919020
I'm gonna go tweet her "Would you pay to go see nu-ghostbusters agian"
>>27918786
I'm starting to notice that she always seems to back down at the end of these feminist outbursts. It's like she can't help revealing her power level, but she always comes to regret it.
>>27918786
Just damage control
>>27919742
>someone qualifies their position to make it more clear, after poorly communicating it initially due to being limited to less than 200 characters per post
>hurr durr that's damage control
Tbqh damage control is so overused that it's become meaningless.
>>27920789
Twitter is a terrible conversation platform anyways and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.
All its good for is sloganeering. Or narrating the mundane events of your life.
>>27909913
Nah, she's acting within acceptable boundaries. She wants people to see the movie so Hollywood knows that female-led tentpoles can work. She's not saying that disliking the movie makes you sexist.
Maybe in a sea of bad movies which star women a good one will eventually surface.
...right?It's not like the output of the current film industry isn't flooding the markets like this anyway.
Wow. Bye mom. I had a lot of faith in you all these years, the structure of MLP always told me you cared about the welfare of girls quite a lot. But I thought you did so in a healthy way, I thought you were like Harper Lee letting Scout see variations on femininity through other female characters. I thought you understood about strength and self-determination, I thought that's why you hated Twilicorn as much as I hated Twilicorn. But this whole time...you were just one of these delusional obsessives?
The new Ghostbusters is feminist iconoclasty, it's the same thing as GG, it's the same thing as Atheism+. They want to come into various fandoms and causes they think make up the core of modern white male identity and fill them with non-white non-male representations and ideas as much as possible. Nothing in their canon of ideas even justifies this strategy, it's outright aggressive, the destruction of cultural identity countermands everything these people say they stand for everyday. It's the very fact we were all raised on Ghostbusters that they do this to it, it wouldn't have seen another release otherwise is the extra funny part.
You know what? I'm going to start taking non-white non-male cultural icons and start whitewashing them. I'll start with a minor rewrite of a classic book. It'll be a big trap, I won't change a thing besides what color or sex it says the characters are. I'll change literally 0.05% of the book's actual text, I'll use public domain works so nobody can do anything.
>>27921044
>gamergate
>atheism plus
>muh feminism is ruining everything
>hah I'll edit public domain works to make all the characters white men, t-that will s-s-show t-those c-c-c-c-cunts
>>27921290
Go away, Tumblr.
>>27921290
One wonders what motivates this behavior. What do you think the outcome of destroying the cultural identity is going to be, provided you could actually do it? Happiness? Adoption of your views? Historically, what has the outcome of any such thing been? The more likely outcome is anomie and the violence that inevitably arises from anomie.
Tell me, why does 4chan itself have such a significant diaspora? Why did so many leave? The picture is a hint.
Faust really need a child to feels like a real women and stop to complain about the representation to really enjoy her life
>>27921044
>the core of modern white male identity
I can't believe that people still base their identity on the color of their skin and their genitals.
But go on ahead and do what you're gonna do, anon. Don't just spout platitudes; actually fucking Shia LaBoeuf that shit. You might even make a little dosh.
>>27921382
Her uterus is cursed, she can't have childs
>>27921382
She does tend to do that, hell, she even tweeted saying something that Hollywood would eventually stop making female lead role movies, which is highly untrue. Hollywood has been catering to all demographics for as long as I can remembereven the shit movies
We're not in the 70's or whatever time females were given less representation, this is 2016, and females have pretty much have the same privilege to do what a male can do.
But such is life, because History tends to repeat itself, Problems are never going to be resolved as long as they continue to act like that, just like how the media portrays whites and blacks.
>>27915512
I agree with this person, we need more visibility.
>>27921466
Well then it's a good thing he don't call the shots because Whitley is a faggot.
>>27921444
>those trips
poor mom, how we can remove that curse that faust have in her womb?
The movie is genuinely bad and relies solely on the women for marketing and entertainment other then actual ghostbusting. the characters are predictable stereotypes (OH LAWDY A GHOST!) and the finale involves zapping a ghost in the dick.
>>27909871
Welp, there goes my love for Lauren.
>>27911143
Fucking come on. What seems more interesting?
>A boy in 1950s rural America finds a giant fucking robot and becomes friends with it, hiding it from the government in the back yard of a garbage artist
>A bunch of chicks hunt shitty CGI slime ghosts, but something goes wrong so they need the help of their wacky but independent black friend and super hunky nerd assistant to save the world from the exact same thing we saw in the other Ghostbuster movies
It's not a problem with advertising. It's a problem with one's good and one's not.
>>27913284
>I think boys should totally be interested in girl things because nobody should feel left out and a bunch of other gender crap I learned in fake college.
>But uh, let's get more female role models out there. Girls can't be interested in or relate to male heroes. You're sexist if you disagree.
She's really striking out for me tonight.
>>27921422
They don't is the catching point. They're doing this by numbers, it can't be said "video gaming" or "atheism" are white male interests it's just that white males are disproportionately interested in them. They want white males to feel no camaraderie with other white males even by accident, they want to destroy what they see as racial culture when the fact there is no longer any such concept in operation means many other people are caught in the crossfire.
I'll be a huge nerd here. I'm reminded of Star Trek: Voyager, there's two races in question, the Kazon who were enslaved and have a violent, male-centric culture which is largely backward and cruel. The other race, the Treibe, are largely enlightened, peaceful and technologically gifted. The Kazon overthrow the Treibe and take their technology, mainly millitary technology and proceed to force the remaining Treibe to leave the sector. But it doesn't stop there, they never allow the Treibe to settle on any planet, no matter how far away the Treibe move away from their homeland the Kazon follow them and prevent them from even landing anywhere. Eventually an episode poses the question, who's more evil? The enslavers who want peace and isolation or the formerly enslaved who cannot forgive or forget?
The fact that nothing is "white" anymore is precisely why this version of that conflict isn't contained in a neat little sci-fi bottle. But the fact is the SJW don't care who they hurt, they only care about how culture makes they themselves "feel". So they'll continue to chase the White Male Patriarchial Boogeyman wherever it seems to be, justified or not. See, they're not actually satisfied with people agreeing with them or with their stated, harmonious goals coming to pass. None of that will satisfy their need for vicarious revenge against, largely, their own racial shame as whites given that like 95% of SJW are the very class/identity they most vilify, white and rich.
Not gonna judge her for a night of tweets, especially over such a dumb topic.
Everyone says dumb things sometimes, welcome to Earth bitch.
>>27922177
Earth is a judgmental place. If you're not ready to get judged, then you're a pussy.
>>27922258
That's easy to say when you're anonymous, faget.
