Remember, artist: When you draw porn, you get twice as much attentionfrom half as many people
>>27567606
Look like tumblr is alredy butthurt about that, after all, muffin catponies are quite popular there
https://derpiboo.ru/1169483
>>27567606
cat pron > horse porn
>>27567606
Same applies to drawing specific fetish art such as vore, expansion, hypnosis, etc. I know this from experience.
>>27567687
>them feels
This is EXACTLY why I quit contributing to the bimbo threads. It's not that I like bimbos, or find it to be a fetish. I just did it because I love drawing, and I like making people happy. But, I got the feeling that one or two people were giving requests, so I kind of just quit... Kind of glad that I did, to be honest..
>>27567687
That's true. Porn turns off or turns away as many viewers as it turns on. It's a quick way to get money if you're desperate, but it also taints everything you do, and you'll never go mainstream unless you bury it deep and pretend it never happened.
>>27567687
And remember, to most people, pony porn IS fetish art.
>>27567606
I draw fetish art and this is definitely true
But it's so hard to quit when you've been at it for this long and have a sizable following.
>>27567759
If you lose followers just because you stopped drawing porn, then they never cared about you or your art in the first place.
>>27567818
>caring about artists
>caring about their art
That's some pretty high-minded shit, anon.
I actually just want to masturbate.
>>27567724
>drawing porn is to artists what acting in a porno is to actors
>>27567606
Drawing porn is just for pander to people that doesn't care about art but only cares of their cocks. For me it's just a lazy way to get popular and money.
Porn artists may have thousands fans on furaffinity and fame but it's nothing comparing having a safe portfolio, a decent job in art outside the internet and living good from it. I choosed the sfw life, it's harder but today I make 200 euros a day with working in a good studio that will give good contacts and a 10+ safe career.
I'm not saying everyone is like that, but I can see quite a lot of popular artists on furaffinity that draws only porn but they are unknown outside this shit website. Starting drawing porn and being known for that definitly ruins a career....
>>27567606
whynotboth.jpg
>>27567818
>they never liked you for who you are! Fuck them!
Are you kidding? Who the hell jerks off to art out of how much they love and care for the artist?
>>27568068
Which studio?
>>27567818
I actually find that very close minded
People did care about the art
It doesn't matter if its fetishy or not
Someone followed you cause they like thing
If you stop doing thing of course a lot of them will stop caring
That has nothing to do with it being fetishy
It could be like you drawing super realistic drawings that people went wow over and gen you start drawing cartoons.
Some people will stop caring and unfollow, some might still like it.
>>27568216
Exactly. Who jerks off to art because they care about art or the person who makes it? You're there because you want to cum, not to "appreciate art".
>>27567724
I met Braeburned at a family-friendly convention in Kansas City in 2013 and there was a Q&A session and everything.
I think a kid asked him what's the hardest part of a pony to draw. I saw his face, and I could tell he was trying desperately to not say "the dick".
>>27568531
Yeah, people follow "RealisticHorseCunts96" because they "care about the art".
>>27568903
>>27568903
I saw Atryl at Midwest BronyFest in Kansas City. All those parents and children parading past a smug-looking pudgy white guy with no idea that all he does all day is draw the animals from their kids' favorite TV show getting cummed on. If they had any idea what that man did, and that he was in the same room as their children...
>>27567606
i wish i could draw so i could put my entire corrupted mind onto a paper
i'm sure i'd be in top 10 of the most sickening & perverted artist out there
>>27569018
I think that's a good thing that you can't draw.
>>27569038
but what about people who like this kind of stuff?
also there's oversaturation of vanilla porn
>>27568919
Well there's a reason hey follow him and not "Shittylookinghorsecunts36"
>>27569079
Too true. Even if they're not technically good artists, I wish more people would at least try drawing less popular fetish art. When I try to look for scat on DB, the overwhelming majority is either vore (someone shitting out my waifu's skull) or diapers. I just want to see my favorite pony relieve herself behind some bushes, god damn it!
>>27568068
Good for you. I mean it. It's nice to see someone not taking the cheap, easy way to success.
>>27569269
>scat
atta boy! would draw some delicious scateating
>>27568993
>If they had any idea what that man did, and that he was in the same room as their children...
You say that but most of the animators around the world are a little fucked in the head by some people's standards.
The person drawing gore and pedophilia might draw a nice pony for their kid or animate that one movie they love so much.
Does it really matter in the end?
>>27568068
Andy Price and Kevinsano would beg to differ.
Andy literally has drawn spanking fetish art of superheroes on his deviantart, yet still is an official artist paid by Hasbro to do pony comics.
Kevinsano, who got started out in this fandom drawing the ponies sucking off cocks and gets futa Twilight drawn for him on his birthday has officially approved t-shirts for sale on welovefine, and is even featured in Hasbro's official MLP art book.
Spoiler alert: You can do porn AND be a successful artist. You'd have to be a literal autistic to stop following someone because they start doing smut alongside SFW art. Also, what's to say artists don't draw porn for the enjoyment of it? An artist is driven by their own enjoyment first and foremost. It just so happens that porn is extremely popular (what a shocker)
TL Dr, why not both?
>>27568993
This.
Fucking degenerates.
>>27569785
Those are exceptions rather than the norm familia
I draw porn because I like to.
>>27569803
How so? Nobody's going to be stupid enough to include porn in their portfolio.
>>27569785
I know probably every artist has drawn something pornographic at some point (they're human, right?) but most people have the shame and common sense to hide it and not be proud of it.
And spanking is not on the same level as bestiality and cp.
Companies DO care about their image, and they WILL look at what you've posted on the internet before they hire you.
Funny
the question that people should be asking is, do artists jackoff to their own art?
or do they see too many flaws in it to be able to get off on it?
>>27570073
i do
>>27570073
If I couldn't jack off to it or make money from it I wouldn't draw it.
>>27570073
I myself can't, for exactly what you said.
I still occasionally draw it, though.And not for money, either.
>>27567606
Works for pony art as well.
>>27570073
It's not just the flaws, but the fact you've spent hours on it, and how your own ideas can never feel "new" to you as it can to everyone else.
That's not to say there isn't a feeling of being naughty, though. And I'm willing to bet entire paychecks that certain artists jack off to other artists' stuff, too.
ITT; so many people that have no fuckin clue about what the hell they're talking about.
There's more than one kind of 'artist'.
There are those that do it for the money, those that do it for jacking off, the ones doing it because THEY LIKE DOING IT, and also people doing it just because they feel like it's an easy way to be 'recognized', even if it's from a niche fetishy fanbase.
You can't compare everyone like that, that's retarded, also, the public doesn't think that way everywhere, we're not all coming from your third world christian shithole.
Do you really think anyone would really care about stan lee doing porn from time to time?
>hurr durr the soccer moms will cry about it
and? We're not in the 60's anymore.
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't give a shit about it.
Proof is there are dozens of artists, now working in big studios like disney, or the comic industry, that did porn. That isn't hard to find on the net.
cartoon horse porn =/= art
cartoon horse porn painter =/= artist
Remember.
>>27570288
Kel
You don't have to be religious to think this kind of porn is bad
Also depends on the subject.
A cute cartoon horse from a girl's will bring out a much negative response than a comic book character
>>27569965
I think you're blowing things way out of proportion here. Most artists separate their art on two different blogs and tag their pieces accordingly. It's incredibly easy to have a clean portfolio on one site and a dirty one on another. And unless the artist is going to be doing comics for the fucking New York Times, I don't think companies seeking artists actually give a shit (see: videogame companies)
Furthermore, what's to say the artist even wants a career doing "professional" art? Thanks to sites like patreon you can literally make a living drawing porn. So an artist can live comfortably drawing horsedicks while still doing clean stuff. It's not that fucking serious, especially in this day and age, where Rebecca Sugar can start out drawing Ed Edd n' Eddy yaoi porn and then go on to work on Steven Universe.
>>27570288
Yeah, it's the CURRENT YEAR, people! We're more liberal and open-minded and we don't believe in your superstitious "christianity" or your "God" or your silly "morality" anymore! My wife's husband and I are voting for Bernie Sanders in the CURRENT YEAR! Do whatever feels good! Marry your dog! Fuck children! Vote for Bernie Sanders! It's the CURRENT YEAR!
>>27568993
>>27569789
If you had any idea what most people do in their bedrooms, no-one walk around in public anymore. Get over yourself.
>>27570073
Pretty much exclusively, due to my fetishes.
>>27570073
I used to, exclusively even. But I stopped drawing smutand wanking in general
>>27567606
I like this guy's art.
>>27570324
Who are you to decide about that anyways?
>>27570623
He's right, you know.
It's all disgusting fetish art filled with low quality pieces with terrible anatomy.
Listen to Idubbbz man he knows it to be true
>>27567606
>Uploaded by Cpt Pudge Muffin
>cherrypicking this hard
His non-porn often gets 1000+ votes on Derpibooru anyways
>>27567606
>being salty about him drawing porn
>not being salty about his dislike of anatomically horse pussy
Fuck's sake.
>>27567606
why not both?
>>27570677
Pudge Muffin ponies are more cat than ponies. The horse pussy would not look fine in them until someone make a edit that actually look good in those ponies
>>27570706
Literally this. Even the prudes on derpibooru aren't causing a stink about this.
And didn't /mlp/ used to be the place that adored horse porn? What the fuck happened to us?
>>27570726
unchecked generals turning into safezones/hugboxes filled with people that would normally not step foot on 4chan
>>27570726
Nobody is telling anyone not to draw porn.
It's also true that porn doesn't get as much attention as SFW art work.
>>27570677
Horse pussy is fucking disgusting. Way too inhuman. Human females have much more aesthetically pleasing genitals. Why do you think so many artists make their ponies look like human women? Humans are programmed to like humans, and female humans are just naturally beautiful.
>>27570765
>It's also true that porn doesn't get as much attention as SFW art work.
citation needed
>>27570795
Just look around lad.
Everytime I see the view stats for art SFW has like 7x the number of views.
>>27570782
>Horse pussy is fucking disgusting. Way too inhuman. Human females have much more aesthetically pleasing genitals.
Here's a free (you) from Stoic5
>>27570677
What a massive faggot. He should stick to shitty cats, then
>>27570288
Name a single porn actor or actress or director off the top of your head.
No, pornography is not "mainstream". It never was, and never will be.
>>27570833
This.
Degenerates getting BTFO
Plus all these cucks drawing Cheese Pizza and bestiality are never going to make it big if they don't hide their past.
Comparing making spanking art of super heroes to whatever sick shit atryl draws is just fuking out of touch
>>27570810
>Everytime I see the view stats for art SFW has like 7x the number of views.
Kek. 3 out of 5 of Pudge's highest scorest pieces are NSFW, with his latest NSFW picture garnering over 14000 points IN THREE DAYS.
In comparison, his top scoring pic took a YEAR to reach 16000.
>>27570833
Acting in porn is not the same as drawing NSFW art. That's like saying drawing gore art is the same as murdering people.
>>27570765
Look at Derpibooru right now with no filters. Six of the top 10 in the past 3 days are explicit, and so are four in the top 10 of all time.
I fucking hate moralfags so much. Soon they will be the only ones on this site and 4chan will be all but dead. 4chan was built on twisted and sick shit. Without it, this site just lacks any purpose to even exist.
>>27570962
>>27570932
Well Derpibooru is a mostly fetish site even if ppl don't want to say it. I'm talking about general art sites, like the big giants.
Desire driven people are the worst. So I try to avoid that myself.my tiny victory of today was to decide to lurk on here for a while before going to sleep rather than smoking a joint and having a wank
>>27570997
How is hanging out in this shithole any better than doing the things you mentioned?
>>27570862
>Comparing making spanking art of super heroes to whatever sick shit atryl draws is just fuking out of touch
Funny you mention Atryl. He had a piece featured on Blizzard's official fucking multiplayer website, Battle.net. They even interviewed him.
http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/16575890/the-art-of-atryl-12-12-2014
It's almost like he's a good artist and they didn't give a shit that he makes a living drawing pony anthro chicks with throbbing cocks.
>>27571011
Atryl only draws retarded anthro shit anyway. He can go suck my dick.
>>27571005
I'm filling my mind with cuteness, not with deliriumesque and sweaty things.
You know, I still lurk that place mostly for qt pones, like the thing that made us all want to watch the show at the beginning.
Unless some of you saw a pony outta nowhere and thought "I MUST FAP TO THIS".
>>27571027
Again, you retreat to the fallacy that you either have to be a cutesy-loving, clop-ignoring flower child or a completely morally bankrupt degenerate who only participates in the fandom for porn.
Why can't people enjoy both? You act as if that's somehow physically impossible.
>>27571011
Well that's because in that piece they're focusing on art related to blizzard's games. His bizzaro """""pony"""" art doesn't have anything to do with that.
It might greatly hurt his chances with any firm that cares about their image
As someone mentioned earlier if the parents of the children gathering around some fat Hungarian knew the shit he drew they would think he's a pedo t b h
>>27571040
I enjoy both. I have a huge clop folder. But recently I've been trying to get less and less attached to my desires, especially unhealthy ones like those I mentioned. I have a history of drug abusing and recently got back from holidays with parents during which I didn't smoke. So yeah, If I can turn this into a decent tolerance break, that'd be great.
While I love having a good wank or smoke every once in a while, I often can't get to have them just "every once in a while". More like " everyday", and I don't want any of that again.
>>27569785
>Andy literally has drawn spanking fetish art of superheroes on his deviantart, yet still is an official artist paid by Hasbro to do pony comics.
>Kevinsano, who got started out in this fandom drawing the ponies sucking off cocks and gets futa Twilight drawn for him on his birthday has officially approved t-shirts for sale on welovefine, and is even featured in Hasbro's official MLP art book.
Not if my angry soccermom email has anything to say about it.
>>27570833
>>27570862
Sasha Grey
>>27571063
>It might greatly hurt his chances with any firm that cares about their image
Good thing there are firms that don't give a shit and look at someone based on the artistic quality of the work.
>As someone mentioned earlier if the parents of the children gathering around some fat Hungarian knew the shit he drew they would think he's a pedo t b h
It's not an artist's job to protect children from seeing weird shit on the internet. If the artist tags his shit and places it on the appropriate sites, and then google's safe search and PARENTS do their fucking job, then why should anyone care? Like you sound like a tumblr SJW right now. NOBODY CARES m8.
If you're a good enough artist, people can see the merit in your SFW stuff while ignoring the NSFW if they want to. Again, you'd have to be an autist to think people who do porn are irredeemable pedophile monsters.
>>27571108
Who?
>>27571155
>
>>27571122
Lol
What reality are you living in?
People do care about their images, especially companies.
Like those chinks that apologized for that one washing commercial that depicted a black guy getting washsd into a chink. Companies pull down anything that can give them bad publicity. Just look at faggots getting fired for Facebook posts
You think companies like that want to hire someone who makes pornography of under age character, futa, and bestiality? I doubt it even if the art is good I doubt they want to be associated with that
>>27571169
As I said, there are many other companies NOT like those you mentioned that don't give a shit. Including companies who's sole purpose is to make NSFW content.
Remember Braeburned getting paid by Bad Dragon to make character art for their Sugar Star? You're willfully ignoring entire swaths of companies just to defend your shit point.
>>27570324
Why?
>>27571169
STOP PERSECUTING ME!!!!! IM SERIOUS JUST STOP!!!! STUPID FUCKING REDNECKS. ITS MY LIFESTYLE CHOICE.
>>27571214
>ITS MY LIFESTYLE CHOICE.
Doesn't make it acceptable.
>>27570377
No.
Whatever it is you're drawing is of no concern.
Simply because, for one, ask a random nobody what futa, or furry porn is and they'll tell you that they never heard of it.
Then, nobody gives a fuck about artists anyway, depending on what the media is, of course.
I guess as a comic book artist, yeah, you'd get known. Maybe?
Anywhere else? No.
Do you know which artists worked on your favorite games?
Which artists worked on your favorite movies?
As chara-designers, concept artists, background artists, story-boarders?
Maybe some people will know this, will these people care? No.
This would only cause drama IF you get REALLY known, for whatever reasons.
And that won't happen. You don't become an artist by becoming internationally known, you are one the moment you can live off it.
So, like I said, unless you intend on becoming the next Stan Lee, and becoming a superstar, it won't even matter, whatever it is you're drawing.
>>27570445
What's your point /pol/? Isn't it silly to say this on /mlp/?
Crazy how narrow minded bronies became, really.:^)
>>27571252
>Then, nobody gives a fuck about artists anyway, depending on what the media is, of course.
This.
When was the last time you paid attention to the names in the credits of movies and games? Especially those under "Digital Artists". Literally nobody cares. Nobody is going to stand up in the theatre and shout
HEY LOOK AT NAME #3654 SLOWLY SCROLLING PAST! THEY DID PORN. THEY DID POOOORRRRN
>>27570726
A few people have apparently taken residence here who genuinely believe, as Tumblr does, that pony porn is gross and problematic.
>>27570073
I'm no artist but, when I do try, I do it whilst jacking off.
That way, I draw the things I want to see in the moment.In MS paint.
>>27571169
Prove it?
Give me ONE source.
I want anything proving that an artist got flak because he drew porn.
I mean, I see many people screaming that porn kill careers but I never saw anything proving it.
Literally an urban legend.
>>27570976
>People search for porn on random art sites
>People search for art in porn sites
??
How could you even compare these?
>>27569785
>kevinsano featured in Hasbro's official MLP art book
This is the first I've heard of this, what's the name of the book?
>>27571361
The Art of Equestria. It's an excellent read if you're interested in the visual side of the show and what goes into making it.Kevinsano and other fan artists get their artwork featured in a section on the fandom side of pony artwork.
I don't know how anyone here thinks they're going to convince a bunch of grown men who watch a little girls' cartoon to stop making porn because it's not normal. This is 4chan, words used as casual greetings here are legally recognized as hate speech everywhere else. You think you're the first to pass judgment on MLP fans? We've been called worse for less. Just look up the Fox News report.
>>27570782
>Human females have much more aesthetically pleasing genitals.
Labia is absolutely gross.
>>27570782
>Why do you think so many artists make their ponies look like human women?
Because they're fucking casuals, just like you. Luckily, most artists that draw pony porn eventually switch to drawing anatomically correct marehoods.
>>27570782
>Why do you think so many artists make their ponies look like human women
because they're furries who have some deep desire to become anthropomorphic animals, and they express that desire by drawing pictures of human/animal hybrids
>>27571401
>legally recognized as hate speech
>hate speech
I wish such a concept didn't exist.
>>27571040
>a completely morally bankrupt degenerate who only participates in the fandom for porn.
That's literally me
Bring me the hyper realistic completely immersive virtual reality pone porn combined with hyper realistic artificial vaginas that self heat and lubricate
And then real women are literally obsolete
>>27571040
>>27571661
Also I am not morally bankrupt or a degenerate and I dunno why you feel that way
What is there even to do in the fandom other than porn? Autistic OCs? Shit tier "animations" on youtube posted by reddit kiddies with people who can't even sing right?
>inb4 you list something(s) that is mildly cool
You know damn good and well that it is totally inferior to what I layed out here and once we have it we are golden
All I got from this thread:
>look guys see how degenerate NSFW art of derpibooru isn't as good? If it's on derpibooru then it must be true!
>"actually most artists get the most views from thier NSFW collection"
>YEAH WELL DERPIBOORU IS A GROSS SHITHOLE
>>27571401
>This is 4chan! A Vietnamese puppeteering website! People don't have those opinions here! On 4chan! This is 4chan! I mean, come on! Having those opinions on 4chan? This is 4chan! Everyone on 4chan thinks like me! If I just keep reminding you this is 4chan, I don't have to address your argument!
>>27571692
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jW5n3k2VgZE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i7PQ9IO-7fU
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X_TMtgjQuZI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i7v5wDVDpnc
>>27571775
>You know damn good and well that it is totally inferior to what I layed out here and once we have it we are golden
As I said
Hell even good quality porn that we have now is better than this
>>27571781
Inferior to what? What are those videos inferior to?
>>27571863
Can you not read?
>>27571661
>>27571692
>inb4 you totally ignore the porn we already have and focus on just the VR and HRAVs that we dont have yet
>>27571873
Can you name or link a specific piece of porn that is superior to any of the videos in >>27571775?
>>27571775
>>27571916
Alright faglord
First two are pretty nice
3rd is LOL XD MINECRAFT BUT WITH AN OC LOL
4th is literally a voice over of two LE EBIN UTOOBERZ XD with animated vectors on top of the back ground of the game they are narrating
http://imgur.com/a/PQh5f
Combine with warmed up fleshlights or onaholes and its fucking great
I can even get some pics out that are great for 1st person and putting the fleshy/ona under the monitor and shit
Now imagine fully immersive, 360 degree on the X Y and Z axis virtual reality pone porn on the level of quality of this
https://derpibooru.org/1147843?scope=scpeb0aea38e07867d46dbbf12d212e2cd1a43e0f3dd
>>27571775
>>27571916
>>27572023
Oh and with that VR I just layed out, combined with hyper realistic artificial vaginas made of material made in a lab that is basically indistinguishable from actually pussy tissue, it warms itself, lubes itself on top of that
And your trying to tell me that youtube videos or any other fandom oc can compete with porn let alone the glory that is to come in a year or a few
>>27572023
The porn you linked is shit. Try again, fan of the fagdom.
>>27572038
>is shit
>>27567606
Who cares if you dont make a big deal about it?
>>27572376
because people feel the need to tell others how to run their lives and what to do or not to do
>>27568993
Man how was it? Didn't get to go this year.
(Fucking wedding)
>>27570565
I too cut off my own dick, anon.
>>27575317
How was the cake?
>>27571023
>If don't like someone, that means it doesn't count when they're actually well received
Guy, you must be pretty small.
>>27575544
Pretty solid. Did cupcakes. Salted caramel.
And I don't have to deal with getting rid of bigass chunks of cake.
Who the fuck is stupid enough to draw only porn?
You have one account for porn and another for normal stuff.
This dilemma was solved in the early 2000's
>>27570073
When I draw I always strive to satisfy myself the most, so naturally I'm fapping to my own art the most as well. Hell I'm even fapping to my sfw art. It's just the way I like it. (though it could always improve obviously)
>>27570073
I jack it to my own work now and then.
Its strange though, my imagination is vastly superior to my attempts to put it to paper but there's something satisfying about replicating my lewd thoughts in the real world. Seeing the act instead of imagining it.
Also I'm a fucking whore for UP arrows.
>>27575742
>>27575602
Is there really a point, when this stuff gets shuffled together under the same tag on boorus anyway? All it really is is a convenience thing for followers if you post it to shit like Tumblr.
>>27575642
>>27575742
Can you link to something you've drawn?
>>27576059
Fuck, you got me I guess I'll just stay the hell away from the boorus
>>27575642
>>27575742
Links?
>>27571063
>His bizzaro """""pony"""" art doesn't have anything to do with that.
Uh, duh? At conventions they also don't focus on his dickgirls. If Hasbro were to commission a piece, they also wouldn't focus on his porn.
What's your point?
>>27571775
Youtube and sfw doesn't pay, porn does. That's about it.
>>27576575
>implying pewdiepie doesn't exist
I know it's a sad world we live in, anon, but you should fucking face reality.
>>27576647
Yea, letsplay stuff pays out the ass since you can dump out 30 videos a month+ and have obscene ammount of money from it due to watch time.
Try doing that with animation, you cant compete. Its why all the youtube animators are leaving/already left.
>>27571775
Fuck, I still get chills watching Lullaby for a Princess. I fucking love this fandom.
>>27576662
Yep. I recently watched a channel melt from being fairly quality into becoming basically 90% Leafie-style let's-make-uninsightful-commentary-on-new-viral-content and 10% pewdiepie-style-try-really-hard-to-be-funny-while-playing-games-poorly. The editing's gotten bad, the ego's gotten huge, and the content's gone to shit, all while gaining what's become like hundreds of followers a day in recent weeks.
In the beginning, Youtube benefited from Google's buyout because of the infrastructure they could offer and the longer uploads they could support, but with the integration of G+ (which has made the comments-section even more unbearable due to the default sorting) and the way that monetization and sponsored-and-related-vids algorithm work...
Sometimes I feel like an autist for coming to /mlp but then I remind myself that ultimately, there are far more shameful places to be.
>>27571011
Fire all the useless people working on your websites and focus on getting Legion finished earlier, Blizzard.
>>27575991
No, Derpibooru
>>27576146
>>27576159
Suppose I'll pick something from the top: https://derpiboo.ru/1107041
Pic related is my nr.1 most personally fapped to picture.
>>27572452
Golly I thought that was tumblr's job, not 4chins
>>27567606
I don't get the math
