Consider this:
Equestria is ruled by an all powerful dictator (Celestia) who is deified by her subjects.
There is a clear racial hierarchy.
Unicorns > Pegasus > Earth Ponies.
>Unicorns have talents relating to leadership, high skill careers, and intellectual acumen. Canterlot is a city founded and mostly populated by unicorns, and is the center of wealth and magnificence.
>Pegasi live in the clouds and are depicted as serving in a military capacity, although they also work in manufacturing. Every depiction of their living circumstance is that of a working middle class lifestyle.
>Earth Ponies live in small farming villages and do what you might consider as "peasant work". They are the lower class, laboring in the fields and the orchards to provide food for the kingdom.
Ponyville is actually depicted as an outlier, the one place in Equestria where Unicorns, Pegasi and Earth Ponies live together and are friends (although as Twilight says it's clearly an Earth Pony town).
In the style of a nativist ethnocentric nation-state, invading forces are met with no less than pure annihilation. The changelings were fiercely ejected from the land. The rebel King Sombra was blown to a million pieces. In the alternate timeline the ponies resorted to no less than total war to crush him and his forces. Discord was kept around as a pet, such that he could be serve the nation in the future in a military capacity.
The dynamic behind the ponies having cutiemarks is reminiscent of genetic determinism, a belief closely associated with the National Socialist philosophical perspective. Every worker has a place and a function in the social order, where they work to serve their fellow man (pony). Everyone in the society is motivated to work and fight for his own people
The parallels go on and on
It warms my heart to see so many young girls being shown the glories of a beneficent fascist regime.
Sieg Heil!
No.
>>>/pol/ plz go and stay go. I understand it's summer for you, but your autism makes my autism flare up.
>>27447649
No. This is high-school english tier analysis. It has no validity, it's just a series of buzzwords and forced comparisons.
>>27447649
Nazism is not the same as Fascism.
>>27447649
thats retarded as there isn't a clear class system. yes there is specialties and unicorns certainly are more "noble" but cutie marks are followed religiously and if you get one that bucks the system in a fascist system that pony gets quietly taken out by the secret police for not fitting in.
equestrian seems to run on a decentralized diarchy more than anything else. Enemies of the state tend to either be beings that prey on emotion, which equestria was founded to prevent, and beings which make it easy for windigos to feed, ie gigantic assholes.
think about the yak yaks. would a fascist nation try to meet them and cater to them as had been? fuck no. what about donkeys and zebras? theyre not well accepted but nobody is pushing them out or egging their houses or sending in the night gaurd to put them in a camp somewhere.
>>27447665
>>27447687
>>27447696
>/mlp/ getting triggered by something this low level
jesus we're a long way from the good old days when nothing could rustle us
>>27447649
Good analysis, though as >>27447706 points out there's a clear distinction to be made between fascism and national socialism.
Equestria
a perfect world without jews
Your dream come true Adolf
Sieg Heil!!
Sieg Heil!!
Sieg Heil!!
>>27447712
>yaks
Yes, they would, Hitler liked other cultures, he just wanted to keep his own one pure.
>>27447649
Oh my what an interesting thread.
>>27447717
>jesus we're a long way from the good old days when nothing could rustle us
>implying anything in that statement holds validity
>>27447649
>My understanding of Fascism comes from video games
>>27447722
Triple dubs commands it
How am I triggered?
I literally said "No."
I thought his "analysis" was dumb as fuck and wanted to give a response to emphasize how little a shit I give and how little effort I'm willing to put into a my response.
Your post triggered me more tbch, which is also not that much.
Oh shit, here come the edge teens.
>>27447649
Ah to be a freshman again. How is intro to sociology going?
>equestrian is fascist because they have dictator and racial hierarchy
No.
Fascism at its root is a state where all of its people strive towards a common goal. Charismatic leaders are very common as they are something the people rally behind but you can easily have a fascist state comprised of a mix mash of mutts provided they work together.
>>27447790
Disprove me instead of dissmissing it without refuting
A argument of stone fallacy isn't a argument
>>27447687
The irony of this post
It hurts
>>27447696
>>27447706
These two are correct
You have no clue what you are talking about OP
>>27447649
Weak/Bait
sage
>>27447852
Thank you for proving my point
>>27447807
I'm bored why not.
1. There has never been any mention of a mandated racial hierarchy. Unicorns have natural magical abilities, of course they will study them more. If a university for such things is in Canterlot that is where they will congregate. Pegasi have a successful industry in weather manipulation, of course they will predominate. That's like saying that Japanese people were racially selected to build electronics. No they have a large industry that attracts good students and workers. Same with Earth ponies, but replace it with farming. If they were the first to master advanced agriculture, they'll stay in the business. Especially since it seems farms are traditionally handed down in the family.
>>27447717
>criticizing his analysis means I'm 'triggered'
Sure thing stormnigger.
>Good analysis
Let's dissect it, shall we?
>Equestria is ruled by an all powerful dictator (Celestia) who is deified by her subjects.
This is a headcanon, as nowhere do we see Celestia making any laws whatsoever. We do see the mayors of all the cities and towns meet though, providing evidence that Equestrian towns have some level of control over their laws.
>There is a clear racial hierarchy.
Unicorns > Pegasus > Earth Ponies.
More headcanon, nowhere in the show is any such hierarchy mentioned, nor is there ever any instance of members of one race claiming superiority over the others. Everything that follows is also pure headcanon.
For example:
>Pegasi live in the clouds and are depicted as serving in a military capacity
Neat, except that Unicorns and Earth ponies also serve in the military. It's called the EUP for a reason.
>Earth Ponies live in small farming villages
And major cities.
>Canterlot is a city founded and mostly populated by unicorns
Not based on any of the crowd shots we've seen.
So far it's literally a stormfag fantasy version of MLP, tailored to fit the desired narrative with no concern for canon.
>Ponyville is actually depicted as an outlier, the one place in Equestria where Unicorns, Pegasi and Earth Ponies live together and are friends (although as Twilight says it's clearly an Earth Pony town).
Runs counter to the multi-racial Manehattan and Canterlot, where all three races also intermingle freely. The only homogenous areas we see are cloudsdale, which only pegasi and Alicorns can visit due to biology, Appleoosa, which is a small frontier town mostly composed of members of the apple family, and the Crystal empire, home of the crystal ponies, which disappeared for a thousand years. Since these areas are anomalies, whereas Canterlot, Ponyville, and Manehattan are more average locations, it appears that the races mostly live together in harmony.
>>27447891
Anon, please...
>>27447649
>Discord
>serve the nation in the future in a military capacity
I don't remember that happening.
>>27447908
Hey look, someone who knows what they're actually talking about.
>>27447904
2. What nation has ever done anything besides repel invaders? Even the original Democracy in Athens fought a war against the invading Sparta. And countries of every type have resorted to total war for independence, not least of which is the USA. If the government is corrupt and abusive like Sombra then war is almost expected.
>>27447922thanks for continuing to prove my point, autist
>>27447799
>you can easily have a fascist state comprised of a mix mash of mutts provided they work together.
This never happens though, unless it's forced through slavery.
>>27447908
Continued:
>In the style of a nativist ethnocentric nation-state, invading forces are met with no less than pure annihilation.
Yeah, those Bison sure got genocided. Except wait, the conflict between them and the ponies was amicably resolved.
>The changelings were fiercely ejected from the land.
And not killed or even severely injured. Not really fitting the annihilation narrative OP has laid out.
>The rebel King Sombra was blown to a million pieces
And killing lone wolf enemies of the state is common practice in liberal democracies, what's your point? Every country ever has killed enemy combatants in war, that's kinda how it works.
>In the alternate timeline the ponies resorted to no less than total war to crush him and his forces.
And plenty of liberal democracies have engaged in total war. This isn't compelling evidence that Equestria is some kind of fascist state.
>Discord was kept around as a pet, such that he could be serve the nation in the future in a military capacity.
Ever heard of operation paperclip? So far, the only true things you've posted all seem to make Equestria look more like the US, a celebrated liberal democratic republic, than a fascist nation.
>The dynamic behind the ponies having cutiemarks is reminiscent of genetic determinism
Cutie marks always seem to line up with the talents of the pony in question, but some of those talents are innate, and some aren't. Skills like fashion design, party planning, and farmwork are acquired, not genetically passed down. But I'll grant that it's at least reminiscent of genetic determinism.
>a belief closely associated with the National Socialist philosophical perspective
Sure, although before they used it as a justification to commit industrialized genocide it was actually a major international phenomenon. This is actually mostly pretty valid, even if it's pretty minor compared to the earlier stuff.
>>27447908
>>27448071
>>27447904
>>27447972
>Stormfags getting BTFO by common sense
This is a good day.
>>27448071
>Yeah, those Bison sure got genocided. Except wait, the conflict between them and the ponies was amicably resolved.
The bison weren't an invading force though. They were obviously a metaphor for native Americans.
>>27447992
Whatever you say stormnigger
>>27448071
Part 3/3
>Every worker has a place and a function in the social order, where they work to serve their fellow man (pony). Everyone in the society is motivated to work and fight for his own people
Ehhhh, kinda? There's a lot of social mobility, Twilight and Cadence went from being commoners to actual royalty, Rarity went from being a literally who to a major fashion designer, and Rainbow went from being a literally who to being weather manager for an agrarian town to being a member of a crack squad of elite military fliers. So the social order seems far from set.
>The parallels go on and on
Well seeing as only the most minor one was even the slightest bit valid, and you would have picked the strongest examples, I doubt it.
I rate OP's analysis 2/10.
>>27447649
What else would she have meant by "Rainbow Fasc?"
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jmrc7wS.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>27447649
If we're being completely serious, obviously it's a pretty big stretch to label Equestria's political system as fascism, since it's a kid's show with themes of love and kindness. However, the show does have strong undertones of nationalism, traditionalism, and meritocracy, which are ideologies that are becoming increasingly politically incorrect with each passing year.
After all, the show did feature two episodes that were undeniably anti-equality. I remember that /pol/ lost their shit over that one.
>>27447958
Your Swastika's backwards, retard.
>>27448148
They launched a full on incursion into Appleoosa. They weren't an invading force, but they were a non-pony race engaged in open conflict with ponies. The fact that the conflict was resolved peacefully and in a way that benefitted everyone flies in the face of the idea that Equestria is ethnocentric and annihilates its enemies. Which is why OP conveniently failed to mention it.
>>27448071
>US, a celebrated liberal democratic republic
>>27448159
Prove I am what you claim I am
>>27448071
>US, a celebrated liberal democratic republic
Get a load of this guy lol
>>27447687
Yet, here you are....
>>27448240
Tell that to hitler dipshit
>>27448448
And so are you
>>27447649
>The changelings were fiercely ejected from the land. The rebel King Sombra was blown to a million pieces. In the alternate timeline the ponies resorted to no less than total war to crush him and his forces. Discord was kept around as a pet, such that he could be serve the nation in the future in a military capacity.
Let's not ignore the fact that they were all very serious threats to Equestria and openly hostile.
>>27448530
That I am, but I didn't claim otherwise now did I?
>>27448225
>using "politically incorrect" to mean "falling out of favor"
plz
>undeniably anti-equality
It's literally just Harrison Bergeron mixed with 1984, there is no message against equality in general. The fact that right-wingers flipped out in support of Cutie Map only shows just how ignorant they are of politics in general, but especially of how their own politics relates to the real world.
It's honestly pathetic.
>>27448225
Those episodes just struck me as pro-diversity, since the equality in question was the absolute extreme.
And nobody cares much for extremism.
>>27448618
This desu senpai. It's full of references to both works, including a brief visual reference to Apple's 1984 Macintosh ad. Also, 1984 is anti-communist and anti-fascist, (Orwell believed that both ideologies lead to basicallly the same thing) although to the amusement of all, commies and fascists will constantly argue that it's really only trashing their opponents.
>>27448618
Elaborate
Because it sounds like your argument is a question begging epithet
>The I'm right and they are wrong because they are stupid shtick
>>27448703
You seem upset
Why would this be?
>>27448759
>implying
>>27448820
Your own posts say otherwise
>>27447649
Cutie marks in and of themselves belie fascist ideology. They represent a celebration of individuality. Whereas fascism valorizes the subordination of the individual to the group and to the state. Unity within a national identity is the fascist ideal.
>>27448832
Sure Reddit, we both know you want free (you)'s and you want to get some rustled jimmies.which I'll do till I'm bored of jerking your chain
>>27448871
Thank you for proving my point
>>27448887
>>27447891
>samefagging much?
>>27448618
>It's literally just Harrison Bergeron mixed with 1984
Everyone knows that.
>there is no message against equality in general
Motherfucker, their symbol is literally an equal sign. Their cult was literally about pulling everyone down to the lowest common denominator so everyone would be equal.
How is there no message against equality?
>>27448690
HB is a critique of total equality of outcome, nothing else. There is no message about racial, economic, or social inequality, especially not one in support of them.
All it's saying is that limiting people to the lowest common denominator is a pretty shit idea.
I can't think of a single time Cutie Map ever goes beyond that in terms of an "anti-equality" message.
People seem to really want to apply it to their own politics and use it as a tool to make fun of other people, but it's really just a critique of a hypothetical ideal that no existing political group I know of, and I've tried to find one, has ever strived for.
>>27448913
>in general
>>27448913
>How is there no message against equality
Because radical total equality and conformity is different from legal and social equality? There's a massive difference between:
Everyone should get a fair shake, regardless of race, color, creed, or socioeconomic status
and
Everyone should be the same
>>27448903
sad to be honest
>>27449007
It seems like we're discussing the differences between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Most liberals, I assume, would probably be in favor of the former, and against the latter.
However, while it's not explicit, the episode kinda implies that equality of opportunity is something of a pipe-dream as well. It's understandable to want everyone to have a fair shake, but everyone is simply not born equal, so equality of opportunity seems unattainable as well.
For example, Rainbow Dash is born with wings. This is not an outcome of her decisions, this is effectively a means to different opportunities that she were born with. She can live in the clouds, become a wonderbolt, etc. These opportunities are not available to an earth pony. When the equality cult members prohibit Rainbow Dash from flying, that is practically them trying to equal the playing field of opportunities. The show does imply that this is a bad thing.
It kinda seems to me like the show treats equality as an undesirable ambition, whether it's forcing equality of outcome, or forcing equality of opportunity.
>>27449603
Well we started off strong. I think things deteriorated right about >>27448240. From there, it was all downhill. Then >>27448618, >>27448913, >>27448962, >>27449007 and >>27449195 provided a brief return to previous form, only for you to drop it right back down again.
>>27449603
Requesting original video
>Nietzsche an atheist
Read his works, he mourned humanity's waning interest in theology, a scientific field worth ten thousand years of human wisdom codified into easily remembered phrases and stories
>>27447649
It's not completely state socialist and Equestria doesn't seem to be trying to expand.
>>27448962
Pol Pot killed educated people to create an farming society.
>>27450221
Wrong
At that time Cambodia still have a king
Kink of Cambodia and family at that time kill his own people
That what elite person in Cambodia deserved.
>>27447649
No. It's a benevolent monarchy (diarchy) with two rulers more like the Enlightenment monarchs.
Fascist states always tend to have dictators who die and then everything collapses into chaos.
![equestrian_flag_by_qtmarx-d5gwjd0[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XB11Zdh.png "equestrian_flag_by_qtmarx-d5gwjd0[1].png")
>>27448303
>flies in the face of the idea that Equestria is ethnocentric
Think about the name. Equestria. It's the land of equines. They even have two magical equines in the flag. There are no bison, zebras, or griffons in that flag. Equestria is clearly an ethnostate. They don't have a zero-tolerance policy on other animals living in their nation, but they are very clearly segregated.
>and annihilates its enemies
Well, no, OP is of course wrong there. It's a kid's show. While Equestria is blatantly a nation for ponies first, literal ethnic cleansing would probably be a bit too extreme for the target demographic.
>>27447649
Its a capitalistic federal monarchy (The Princesses) with localized democracy governing local affairs (Mayor Mare) and some manner of representation to the monarchy by said local governments (all the representatives that came to see Twilight in the Princess Spike episode).
Oh and they have free press, so no, not remotely fascist.
![budget_impasse_4___proper_budget_by_petirep-d6p50n9[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Gs3Yyws.png "budget_impasse_4___proper_budget_by_petirep-d6p50n9[1].png")
>>27450334
>No. It's a benevolent monarchy (diarchy) with two rulers more like the Enlightenment monarchs.
>two rulers
Keep telling yourself that, LIDF.
>>27448132
>>27450450
Seems so. That so many got offended by this joke thread shows there's a bunch of leftists on this board now.
>>27450538
It's the summer crowd and the newfags from reddit
>>27447712
>what about donkeys and zebras? theyre not well accepted but nobody is pushing them out or egging their houses or sending in the night gaurd to put them in a camp somewhere.
as long as they stay below a very marginal % of the population, they are tolerated. diversity as flavor
if they started establishing their own little states-within a state, they would be put on cattle cars and physically removed
equestria uber alles
>>27447649
Capitalism, while still in its entirety unbefitting for humans, is vastly more natural than any kind of socialism. All kind of socialism will fail due to their inadherence to the iron laws of Nature.
>>27450538
Oh no, leftists, whatever shall you do?
If you want your rightwing hugbox, go back to /pol/
>>27451353
I prefer nature.
>>>/lgbt/
>>27450538
LOL, look at that damage control.
>>27450450
>>27450538
>>27450551
>wow u guys are all losers
>haha they got so offended it was just a joke
>they're all probably just summerfags and ledditors amiright xddddd
If this is damage control, it isn't very good damage control.
>if they started establishing their own little states-within a state, they would be put on cattle cars and physically removed
Like the Bison, who live in an autonomous society and got kicked out. Wait, no, that's wrong, they got to stay and collect payment for the usage of their land.
>>27450351
Ethnocentric: evaluating other peoples and cultures according to the standards of one's own culture.
They made a point of not forcing the Bison to conform to their culture, and didn't look down on the Bison for living in a different way. That's not very ethnocentric at all.
>>27447760
You didn't even reply to anyone. What were you hoping to accomplish?
here, this might be a useful reminder to both sides.
![8vdPIU0[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/3xdf8jx.png "8vdPIU0[1].png")
>>27451581
B-But I would love to play chess with Pinkie Pie.
>>27451581
>Start playing chess with Pinkie
>It turns into Calvin ball that expands to include the whole town
>Twilight has to referee this clusterfuck
I want this so fucking bad.
>>27451581
>to both sides
Seeing as all I'm doing is refuting the claims of the fascists using show canon, I hardly see how I'm trolling. And since the show canon supports me, I don't have to worry about admitting defeat.
OP devastated in this thread by common logic. Too sad I sorta support his ideology but I see retards like him practicing it. Apperantly The entire hugbox around facism or nazism is filled with dumb kids not using logic. Fuck me tbqh familia
>>27451581
id argue with any internet troll and id do anything to be able to play chess with pinkie like that
>>27448071
What the hell
>the US, a celebrated liberal democratic republic
>>27447649
Equestria is a totalitarian, faschist dictatorship. It has similarities with national socialism but differs from it since it does not appear to have a culture of fear and persecution. Instead, the system is more similiar to George Orwell's fictional totalitarian society of Oceania from Nineteen-eighty-four.
So, how is Equestria a totalitarian dictatorship?
1. An immortal, eternal, Godlike ruler whose has not given up power for a millenia.
2. Celestia's power is absolute. Even the sun does not rise unless she commands it.
3. No one questions her power and she may meddle with her subject's personal lives, even sometimes influencing who is friends with who.
4. Her sister threatened her power, so she imprisoned her for a thousand years and physically had her beat up by her "students" who serve her without question. Celestia only agreed to share power with Luna after an assimilation period to the Friendship-ideology.
5. There SEEMS to be a freedom of speech, but when have we ever heard anyone criticize the two rulers? Celestia and Luna do not have to limit freedom of speech; Luna is can monitor everyone's dreams. She has access to everyone's subconcious and she can even manipulate it. The very thought of opposing their rule has been made impossible. It can be stopped before you even realise you had any rebellious thoughts.
6. Just like a totalitarian Fuhrer or Supreme Leader in a fanatic society, Celestia is always right, always superior and never criticized. There is no way of telling if everyone only believes that or if it's true. Even her flaws may a be part of her propaganda. We can't know, because there is no freedom of thought, no neutral party to tell us independent knowledge.
7. A caste system is clearly established, but never questioned or recognized.
8. There seems to be a free market system. Everyone enjoys the work itself more than the money, though. They are just happy to serve their purpose.
>>27452041
>half of this is stuff OP posted that was roundly debunked
>the other half is just more autistic nazi headcanons
People don't actually buy this tripe, do they?
>>27447649
>There is a clear racial hierarchy.
No. The only time there was any sort of racial conflict it was in the Hearth's Warming flashback and the races were mostly equal there. Otherwise, there wasn't a single case of racial conflict, unicorns imposing their superiority on earth ponies or anything like that in the show. There are high-society earth ponies in Canterlot and Manehattan and there is essentially nothing that suggests that the three races of Equestia are unequal.
Everything you greentexted is pure, undiluted 100% fanon, not backed by the show in any way. Put it back into your ass from whence you produced it.
The reason I even bothered to respond to your shitty bait is because there are way too many retards in this fandom who think that there is some racial conflict theme present in the show, when it has only been suggested once in a semi-fictional flashback; the rest of the show suggests nothing short of equality between the pony races.
What Equestria is, is an United States expy led by immortal magic horsegoddesses.
>>27452041
>muh celestia is a dictator slav headcanon
>>27452697
This week it's stormfags, next week it's libtards. Injecting political ideologies into this show is cancer.It can be fun to imagine what it would be like under different regimes, though.
>>27452041
>Pic
>>27450538
Or maybe people are fucking tired of people injecting their political ideologies into a whimsical show about a little pony utopia.
We attack SJWs who try to insert their shit headcanons into the show all of the time, but you're in no way better
>>27447649
FEUDALISM YOU MONGOLOID
>>27447706
Nazism is not a word you imbecile.
>>27454007
>nazism is not a word
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/nazism
>>27451308
>Capitalism, while still in its entirety unbefitting for humans, is vastly more natural than any kind of socialism.
>communism is literally based off of primitive tribe-mechanics
just wow...
>>27456127
Communalism is primal. Marx stole the theoretical basis from a Russian and added a central state, making it utterly intranslatable into human socioergonomics.
>>27456172
>communism
>central state
Except communism is partly defined by the absence of a state...
>>27456172
shitting in the wilderness is primal. eating with hands is primal. we humans are better than that. we should be steel, not iron ore.
