They all deserve 9/10 at least right?
>>27373606
>Newbie Dash
>9/10
Nigga, that episode was fucking abhorrent
>>27373606
yes
>>27373606
by IGN metrics:
Trixie episode was a 9
Rainbow Trash was a 7.5
a Christmas carol was an 8
>>27373606
Didn't see the trixie one because fuck trixie, Newbie dash was okay but cringey at times, and I really liked the christmas one, especially the major Nightmare before Christmas reference.
>>27373623
elaborate anon
>>27373606
In my opinion they were:
6/10
7/10
5/10
>>27373606
The only good episodes so far are no second prances and GoF. This season S3 tier
>>27373640
>missing an episode because you don't like a character
what
>>27373718
>S3 tier
take that back you double nigger
>>27373671
OP here well episode 6 we get to go more in depth about Trixie character she's always seemed like an anti-villain to me. Episode 7 I enjoyed at the beginning how dash's ego was so massive and she got put in a situation where she was not as amazing as she once thought I believe it taught her character a valuable lesson. And this ones concept of a story within a story was pretty amazing
>>27373606
they deserve the showers
>>27373623
Couldn't handle the cringe, eh?
>>27373759
You're right, maybe S3 was a little bit better.
>>27373606
>no Gauntlet of Fire
>Newbie Dash
>>27373718
>>27373759
>they don't realize that S3 had a bunch of great episodes, and is only really hated because of MMC, which itself is only hated because of the alicorning of Twiggles
DYEWTS?
>>27373671
Mainly the fact that the scene where Rainbow Dash acted like the other ponies was borderline unwatchable, it was like being forced to watch Spike singing the Cloudsdale anthem for like 8 minutes straight.
>>27373785
YOU MOTHERFUCKER I'LL KICK YOUR ASS
>>27373818
At least the Spike singing was funny imo in its cringe comedy way, as for Dash's case I kind of agree.
>>27373818
OP here ya your right i cringed a bit
>>27373606
These have been horribly mixed episodes.
>>27373606
>Starlight episode
>Dash episode
>good
>ever
>>27373818
>Rainbow Dash play acting
>unwatchable
>not Dash smiling as a janitor after the Wonderbolts had broken her
Priorities man.
>>27373848
>>27373818
>implying it wasn't the greatest thing ever
>>27373606
>not mentioning Gauntlet of Fire
Even hardcore Spike haters admitted that one was great
>>27373718
Season 3 was great
Why don't people like it?
>>27374051
1. it was short
2. the end of it was sperg fuel
>>27374059
I liked it because hasbro had the stones to do it.
In any other show, that would've happened at the series finale. Not here, mlp kept going and it became even better.
I don't think any of us will ever be fully used to Twilicorn, but I'm glad it happened and that the show still continues after it
>>27374051
>>27374118
Why are you namefagging outside your shitass spider shamadingdong thread.
>>27374131
Why not
>>27373919
There's literally nothing wrong with being a janitor.
>>27373802
The alicornification was honestly the least bad part of that episode. As in the scene, not that it happened. The rest of the episode was shit.
>>27374220
Get out
>>27374220
gtfo fucktard!
>>27373919
>>not Dash smiling as a janitor after the Wonderbolts had broken her
Looks like someone has no work nor teamwork ethic
>>27373606
I remember the times when people put some effort behind their bait. Good times.
>>27376127
>"Con-form-ity"
>"Doesn't mean that you're free"
>>27373859
>Rarity episode
>good
>ever
>>27373623
Only if you're autistic.
>>27376170
Never join any sort of military or police force.
Please.
>>27376170
>>27376289
Or any form of employment or social club that mandates members act like human beings.
>>27373606
Newbie Dash was surprisingly forgettable for an episode focused around such a major plot point. Hearth's Warming Tale, on the other hand, was a standout episode about nothing of importance whatsoever.
This show is weird.
>>27373606
S6 is surprisingly good
>>27376309
This desu senpai.
>>27376289
>>27376127
>muh teamwork
>muh military excuse
Bet you think the Nazis were shining examples of this too. And those tried were innocent and just following "orders".
>>27373606
>NSP
7 easily. Maybe a 7.5. 8 might be a bit of a stretch.
>ND
6. Basically Sonic Rainboom but focused on Dash's anxiety without her stepping it up in a good way at the end.
>Most Recent
8~8.5, but while it looked and sounded nice, it didn't really have any substance beyond being a retelling of a tale in Equestrian settings.
>>27376416
>reductio ad Naziam
Epic tbph
I'm pretty sure most people who liked Newbie Dash cared more about how it affected the viewers over how things affected the episode in general.
Everyone kept saying that in the sticky and the threads that came after and damage controlling it as >muh bantz
>>27376455
Pretty much yeah.
>>27376455
I liked Newbie Dash because it was funny and silly, not because it gave me shitpost fuel as others got butthurt about it.
>>27376455
>if you liked the episode it's not because you liked the episode but it's because you liked that it allowed you to shitpost
fuck off
>>27376480
>implying it isn't the case for many
Anon, there were plenty who said that the reactions to the episode were more amusing than the episode itself.
Sure there were some who legit liked it for what it was, but many just used it as shitpost fuel between those who disliked its cringe or other reasons. Far moreso than any episode this season thus far.
>>27376425
>ND
>Basically Sonic Rainboom
Fuck no. NO. Sonic Rainboom was a great episode, ND was nothing but shit.
>>27376507
Wow shitposters using something as shitpost fuel fucking stop the presses
>>27374935
T. Scruffy
>>27373623
I agree I could not stand the part where she emulates the other five. But other than that, it wasn't bad.
But that is enough to make me not want to watch the episode again.
>>27376513
You misunderstand, anon.
>Dash has a big performance
>Excited and totally ready
>Before performance begins, she has a nervous breakdown (called Rainbow Crash by others)
>During actual performance, starts fuck it up, but pulls through at the very end
VS
>Dash has a big performance coming up
>Has an(other) anxiety case (because namecalling AGAIN)
>Most of the episode is handled with her coping with her breakdown...again
>Most of her drills are highlighted by her fuckups and it even happens at the time of the performance. She just fucks up instead of pulling through like last time
They're very similar. SR was of course the better of the two, but the cases themselves are similar.
Newbie Dash:
Interesting story with a sound moral, not only fulfilling a life goal of a main character, but going beyond the 'happy ever after' to show us how it changes and improves her as a person:
>/mlp/'s opingion: Oh my god my perfect waifu got embarrassed, what a terrible episode. The cringe THE CRINGE. Why are they so mean to her?!?! 0/10 WORST EPISODE.
A Hearth's Warming tail:
Blatant rehash of a Christmas classic story, but completely butchers the moral and turns it into "you need to make friends or we literally DIE". Turning a tale of introspection and character development into some bizarre excuse to play a couple of nice Christmas songs in the middle of May.
>/mlp/'s opinion: 10/10 episode! Derpy stuck a tree up her cooter lol! More like this please!
>>27376561
The "big performance" was not all that relevant in Newbie Dash, and only an excuse to get her and the Wonderbolts training together. The moral wasn't even remotely similar, and I would even say that Newbie Dash subverted Sonic Rainboom's "Believe in yourself despite what others tell you" moral, because in Newbie Dash's case, it was all in her head and the Wonderbolts never meant to hurt her. They misjudged her character, as they know her as a fast, awesome and boastful pegasus, and not someone with a deep fear of failure due to a past of being bullied. That's practically the opposite of Sonic Rainboom.
Like, you really want an episode with a similar plot to Sonic Rainbow? Take Hurricane Fluttershy. It has a far more similar plot, but has Fluttershy as a main character instead of Rainbow Dash.
Don't get me wrong. Newbie Dash isn't a perfect episode by a long shot, but I really believe people are wrong about it being a bad one. It deserves more credit than "A Pony Christmas Carol", either way.
>>27376699
If there's anything that I remember about newbie dash, it certainly was NOT dashfags complaining about their waifu not being perfect. Over in the Dash thread that was up around that time, a lot of dashfags actually said the episode was alright. I think you're getting confused with the twifags who got assmad because their perfect waifu in "No Second Prances" was made out to be kind of a bitch.
>>27373991
It wasn't
>>27376699
The moral, or rather the primary theme of this weeks episode was to celebrate the time with people in our lives. This was achieved through the telling of Snows tale, when Snow completes her arc, learning not only what the holidays represent in a symbolic sense, but also the potential consequences of doing something so rash, by extension through the story, Glimmer to realizes that the holidays are about more than presents and candy. The moral was not "You need to make friends or everybody dies", that's a blatant misrepresentation of what actually happened.
While the stakes were higher, you know, everybody will literally die if you get rid of this holiday, in A Christmas Carol, Scrooge is too shown his soon and inevitable death. It could easily be argued that Scrooge changed mostly due to the knowledge of his coming death. While that's obviously not entirely the case, as very clearly conveyed in a Christmas Carol, the same is true for this episode. Obviously this episode is not as nuanced as A Christmas Carol, it's a 22 minute re-imagining, and I think that raising the stakes like they did actually benefited the narrative, as I think Snows heel turn at the end would have been harder to believe if said stakes weren't as high. Without time to flesh out her motivations for changing in a more subtle way, this would have had to be a 2 part episode. I think for what it is, it certainly succeeded in telling a warm, cozy, and sincere story that reasonably conveys the theme in a believable way, and I think that boiling it all down to the moral you think it conveyed is really quite hyperbolic and silly.
But that's the beautiful about theme isn't it, it's not something that's set in stone, your interpretation and my interpretation is always going to be different in some way. Lovely isn't it.
A Hearth's Warming tail : 10 out of fucking 10
>>27373606
Newbie Dash is early Merriweather Williams tier, but, other than that, yes.
>>27373606
Trixie episode was great I couldn't bring myself to watch Dash one and I think i'm still having some repercussions since apparently I haven't watched the hearths warming one
>>27376281
Better than being dead on the inside like you
ITT: people who think "Newbie Dash" was a good episode.
>>27376281
This, I thought that scene was more funny than cringy, and I think the point of the scene was to also be a little cringy. We've all had the experience of trying to change ourselves and our behavior to gain acceptance, whether or not you realized it or not. It helps to sell her desire to be loved and admired, which is how she's been characterized throughout the series. She's also been known to be completely irrational and lacking in foresight on multiple occasions, she's has narcissistic tendencies and is very reactionary. Cringy or not, it made sense. While I understand that it really made some people uncomfortable, I think it's such a small portion of the episode that even if you found to be horrible, over all it certainly shouldn't make it bad or abhorrent, that seems petty and kind of insubstantial to me when looking at the whole.
>>27377976
See I don't care if it was cringy or not. It just felt like padding to me and wasn't really that funny. It kind of felt like they just wanted to do the gag without any reason or in any way that would advance the story. I don't like it because it was pointless and overly stretched, and several of the imitations she did made no sense for her to try.
>Rainbow fully accepted by the Wonderbolts as a comrade and part of the team
>She replaces a negatives association from her childhood with a positive one
>Now living the dream
It was a good episode.
>>27377559
>I couldn't bring myself to watch Dash one
You should just watch it. I felt the same way and put it off for a week, then after watching I was wondering what the big deal was.
>>27373606
the episodes are good because the porn.
>>27378224
What porn?
>>27378978
You'd like to know, wouldn't you?
>>27378992
Yes m8
>>27373802
Man, you are dumb. It wasn't the wings that were bad, it was the fact that they took two episodes and made them into one when the ascension should have been it's own two episodes alone. On top of that, they made it into a musical which ate time up even more. It also ruined what we were taught about Cutie Marks up to that point. The rest of the season had a lot of mediocre with a few really good episodes.
>>27376699
>Changes and improves her as person
>Literally now has all the Wonderbolts sucking her dick and then shitting on her back and forth like bi-polar whores.
Wrong taste confirmed. I'm sorry anon.
>>27373606
>Trixie
Terrible charactersiation of Twilight, bland Starlight, slightly better Trixie
7/10
>Newbie Dash
terible wiritng and cringe humor of the lowest calibre. 2/10 Only because status quo change
>Chrismas Carol parody
Holiday Special/10 it was hardly a coherent episode and could have been replaced with literally nay characters from any cartoon. It din'd matter and it did accomplish nothing.
>>27374118
It was supposed to be the series finale, you idiot. Were you not around then? Shows go in syndicated blocks and the reason season 3 was 13 instead of 26 was to make a block out of the there of them in case it was canned. The writers took a look and decided they wanted to give a true ending if the show did get tossed out so they did it. The continuation after was them trying to figure out what the fuck to do with it and it shows with the sporadic use of her being a princess and being respected or ignored. The show changed focus mid season 4 to try and incorporate more of the world as the focus shifted outward from the main 6 rather than inword. It's one of the biggest reasons people complain about the newer seasons being worse than the older.
>>27377976
My single issue with that is that Dash has always been shown to do things her way. Having her lose the ability to listen to her superiors commands (the runway incedent) and transform herself into something she wasn't just wasn't all that great to me. They could have even had her friends help her through her hangups with the name Rainbow Crash and help her understand why it's ok in the setting it was in. Really she's learned to rely on her friends when needed and it could have been cemented further with this episode instead of a gag scene and her acting foolish and almost burying herswlf. For what happened, I did like the end where all the WB shared their stories with her to help her ubderstand, but I think there were better ways going about that instead of making her into a joke for the second half of the episode.
>>27373606
Nah, Christmas carol: pony edition was boring as fuck
>>27376447
>>responding to tone.
reductio ad hitlerdum is not an actual fallacy, the whole fallacy is a fallacy of responding to tone, and the main reason people called it a fallacy is because the constituents of the argument where so immature they could not handle the the tone of the analogy and wanted to make it more clandestine to spare feefees.
Hitler is a useful fucking analogy. first of all, hes a person, not a supervillain, and second, he did things and wasn't a good person, despite a lot of good people defending actions as virtuous, hitler represents a great example of how just because you can do X and be right doesn't mean if you do X you are right.
>>27373606
8/10, 8/10, 9/10 is my final answer.
>>27377524
based porn
>>27379383
OP here
I can agree with that
>>27373606
8/10
4/10
6/10
You can debate my opinion, Don't really give a fuck.
>>27379706
How so m8
>>27379729
I honestly felt the pacing in the rainbow dash one was rushed and that it didn't get it's message across well, her pretending to be the the other 5 seemed a bit forced, and I didn't find it all that funny.
As for the christmas episode, for one it was in May, maybe if I was in the right mindset I would have enjoyed it more than I did, but it's literally about to be summer. But if you want my opinion on the episodes plot, I feel like it's been done way too many times before and it just didn't convey the message the original Christmas Carol did and turned it from a message about greed and a bitter old man to "lol I don't have friends so fuck christmas"
>>27379796
Ya I agree with the sense of a Christmas episode in May was a bit weird. And the Dash episode was a bit clingy at times tho Idk if it was really rushed
I can't award a musical episode a great rank. Storytelling purely through song is crap.
>>27381083
Ya they were all pretty amazing
>>27373606
Bump
>>27373606
Yes i do believe the last 2 episodes deserve a 9/10 except for no second prances because twilight was a bitch for absolutely no reason besides convenience, hell we even see her leave on friendly terms with trixie in s3 so why the need to act that way?
Also a short amount of cringe a bad episode does not make. Autists on this board either want something to be perfect or shit, they can't appreciate an episode for what it is. I'd say let them suck dick but they would actually enjoy that.
>>27384704
>Also a short amount of cringe a bad episode does not make
>>27384704
Why so mad anon
>>27384704
You want nuance? Here's nuance:
Newbie Dash was a 5/10 beginning for being functional, but kinda frustrating, a 0/10 cringefest segment in the middle, and a 4/10 ending for being a less believable rehash of Dash's behaviour in Tanks For the Memories.
Overall I give a 3/10.
>>27373606
They were all decent
>>27379706
I'd put the most recent at a 7, but your opinon seems fair.
>>27384704
>Twilight was a bitch
No, she wasn't. She forgave trixie for what she did, but its not like forgiveness = friendship. She was likely worried that two "former" antagonists wouldn't make for good friends over what they would have obviously bonded over - their prior misdeeds.
On top of that, she wanted to make a great impression for Celestia about how she's handling her student. Again, seeing that she didn't befriend Trixie after forgiving her, how do you think she'd imagine telling Celestia that her pupil's first friend was somepony like Trixie, who's appearance led to two different town-jeopardizing cases?
Its totally in Twilight's character to want everything to be as perfect and ideal as possible when it comes to dealing with Celestia, even if it meant managing her student's friendships to mirror her idea of a perfect friendship to save face.The real issue is that she said in The Crystalling p2 that she should allow Starlight to make her own decisions, but its obviously more difficult for her to practice what she preaches.
>>27386433
I agree just because you forgive someone doesn't mean trust them
>>27373606
Trixie 4.5/10
Newbie Dash 6.5/10
Christmas in May 5/10
NSP- 8.5/10. This gets high marks for the compelling dialogue between and focus on Trixie and Starlight.
ND- 8/10 The first and last scenes were absolutely perfect. Everything in between was good, but not god tier.
AHWET- 9.5/10 Those costumes! The music! The animation! Truly an epic episode.
NAP - 8.5/10 all three unicorns were top-tier and nuanced. Some individual scenes could have been handled better, but a really solid ep.
ND - 3/10 I like Dash when she shows spunk and sticks up for others and herself ala Wonderbolt Academy. Combined with her insecurity you have a recipe for a great character and stories. However it feels like the only focus we've gotten these past couple seasons is that insecure side and generally in a cringey, pathetic way and her recoveries at the end of those episodes don't deliver for me. I'm fine with Dash being insecure in front of the wonderbolts but the way they did it by having her literally acting like caricatures of her friends just pissed me off. 1/10 ep brought up by a 10/10 ending.
AHWET - 10/10 I'm a sucker for musicals, really liked how they converted A Christmas Carol into a retelling of Starlight's Journey, cuteness abound and great animation.
>>27373606
So lets see:
The Crystaling was really a 4/10 Fairly Odd Parents episode and an 8/10 Starlight feels Episode badly duct taped together.
The Gift of the Maud Pie was a 6/10 Episode because a lot of the jokes fell flat.
On Your Marks got a lot of shit but for its feels, asking relevant questions about the characters and the return of cutie mark failure syndrome I'd happily give it 7/10.
Gauntlet of fire was a solid 8+/10 Episode depending on how much you like Spike.
No Second Prances; 5/10, everyone was out of character except Starlight, Trixie kept acting villainous for no reason even when she was clearly reformed and everyone was suffering from enforced stupidity to make the conflict happen.
Newbie Dash; 3/10, A Cringe fest were rainbow failed to realize that the team she always wanted to join were no better than the bullies she spend her life trying to escape, *gag*.
A Hearth's Warming Tail, because I am huge fan of a Muppets Christmas Carol, I give 9/10. If you don't watch MCC every year I could see you going as low as an 7/10 for recycling a warn out story even thought the plot took a back seat to the musical numbers.
>>27388008
Low ratings anon?
Where does your loyalties lie?
>>27373606
Bump for interest
