Wow what a shitty backstory
It was almost a very redpilled episode on the dangers of cultural marxism, as shown by the scene with SG and the fillies. They pretty much ruined it by have a terrible backstory that was literally "i never saw him again just because"; and "i never made new friends just because"; and "okay i'll be a good guy now just because"
All the scenes with twilight and spike going back in time was just filler, since it had no effect on the rest of the episode. They went back 4-5 times, when the message was made after the first one. Not a single thing in each of those travels changed the episode in any way shape or form. It was basically fanfiction.
Hopefully she's not-shit as a main character next season.
>>26794510
Don't worry, she won't be a main character
>>26794510
>shitty backstory
>mfw
cum on an on, what the actual fuck did you expect, she is a pone, not even best pone, and not even main pone, i don't know why everyone is shitting on her backstory, i for one think it is a fantasticly fitting backstory, only a shitty backstory for a shitty character that was shit, the end
>>26794510
did you honestly think you would've gotten what you wanted op, its like every faggot who watches the show forgets its made be fucking hasbro, the autism has been off the charts lately with starlight its blinding
>>26794510
A terrible backstory doesn't invalidate all of the positive aspects of her character.
>>26794690
true
it would be quite odd if there was a really good backstory for glimmer, who in her self, is really bad
now that i think of it, im happy they gave the story they gave, perfect fit for her terrible character
>>26794529
Until they need her magic to embue a mark on Chrissie for the purpose of empathy in s6 finally. She'll refuse at first then Chrissie will do something that directly threatens SG so she will have no other choice but to do it. Upon the completion Chrissie will monologue about understanding the needs and wants of others. SG will have learnt the error of her ways as she sobs on twerks haunches. Prompting Twiggles to invite her to the castle. S7 ep4 after some time of adjusting to her surroundings a strange light emits from her ass, and that's how she became the fresh princes of pone vill.
>>26794721
>positive
faggot wut? all she is, is an op character, that created a stupid cult, and had a stupid life, and had a stupid plan for revenge, i mean really, has the bitch never heard of the butterfly effect, what did she expect fucking with time would do
>>26794745
>too much autism
>could not understand
>>26794762
well maybe they didn't have back to the future in the pony shops yet but yeah, i think doctor hooves should've done something at least
>>26794721
well there is one really good aspect of Starlight Glimmer, the amazing porn of her
>>26794510
No, the redpill is absurdism , if you cant get that , then you are bluepilled
>>26794810
true true, shes made me cum on many occasions
>>26794815
kek
when i read this, i heard Morpheus' voice
>>26794510
>backstory
>shit
wow wow wubbzy, what a fantastic and original new concept
>>26794510
>a main character next season
Not sure if I'd count on that.
>hfw she sees my dick
You guys are fuckin dumb. Her backstory is perfectly justifiable.
Why?
Adolf Hitler got angry that his art was shit and Germany was in poor shape.
badaboom. Same crap,
Okay /mlp/, her backstory is retconned and you have the chance to write a better one to justify her beliefs, how do you do it?
I want to go back in time and molest that filly until she can't live without my cock.
>>26796192
Same as every social justice warrior: She fights for a very collectivist sense of justice because she wants to feel like a good person, but cannot handle people disagreeing with her. The best part of the Glimmer is her smugness and urge to control others quickly rather than work with them slowly like Twilight.
>>26795360
>"...That's all of it? Really?"
>"Aren't you suppose ta' be fully grown mister?"
>>26794510
>the dangers of cultural marxism
/pol/iticians really believe this? Absolutely 0% of the episode had to do with culltural marxism.
>>26796192
Her beliefs are incoherent and contradictory, there is no way to justify those beliefs better apart from having her never believe incoherent and contradictory shit.
If I had my way, she'd be quoting Mao and teaching kids the dangers of an imperialist state like Equestria.
>>26794510
Twilight should have got extra pissed off when she learned about Glimmer's shit-tacular reason. "Wow it's fucking nothing." "You just want to destroy the world because you're stupid and insane"
>>26794510
She mind wiped an entire town and almost fucked up reality itself because her friend moved away.
that's like becoming president and starting world war III because you dropped your ice cream cone.
>>26794510
>Shitty backstory.
Actually no, think about when the trauma happened. She was a child when she saw that cutie marks are bad.
This is why she made her village.
This is why she acts so childish about petty shit, she is a kid having a tantrum.
>>26794529
sorry, but it's the mane 7 now
>>26796825
The 2nd part was because Twi and friends popped her little safe space.
You know how tumblrites get when you damage their little bubbles.
>>26794510
>Seriously using CULTURAL MARXISM term
>In a fucking MY LITTLE PONY discussion
The episode IS horrible, but I'm surprised you didn't like it since you're all 12 flavors of RETARDED.
>>26794721
It actualy does since her bitchy passive agressive personality is all she had for her, now she's as bland and hollow as Sunshit Shimmer.
>>26797491
bu-but muh esjaydubayas
da markists
ma-ma-maga
Part of me thinks they could have just swapped out Glimmer with Trixie. Either way, I wish we had Trixie instead of Glimmer
>>26794510
>don't be versatile, you have your own talent, don't try other things or you will fail!
>equality doesn't exist, every one of you is a special snowflake that can be good just at ONE thing
Aaaand that's why you have so many hobos and unemployed in 'murrica/Imsorryland. You can be a dog masturbator, but when all of the dogs die, you die too.
The funny thing is that they could have easily made her story be that she was poked fun at for her Blank Flank. It's happened with Apple Bloom.
>>26798218
It fucking hurts to know that the only options we have are shit or another rehash of another plot.
>>26796572
It's true. Although it was certainly a very heavy handed parable on the USSR.
>>26798252
If by "heavy handed" you mean "a copy of a child's interpretive essay on Orwell's 1984", sure.
>>26794510
>All the scenes with twilight and spike going back in time was just filler
actually no, it served a purpose in showing twilight that it wasn't just by chance that them not becoming friends caused a worldwide war, but that it was inevitable.
She needed that to confirm to Starlight that their friendship was NEEDED, and not just to spare twilights feelings of having friends.
Second, it was entertaining.
If you don't count entertainment as a reason, then the ENTIRE SHOW is just filler
>>26798295
So, it was just used to justify a shitty contrivance. Okay.
>>26798316
>to justify a shitty contrivance
i....what?
>>26798331
It's a contrivance to say that, no matter what, without the Mane 6 the world couldn't be okay. It exists only to justify Glimmer failing, because the writer's can't write a compelling conflict for shit.
>>26798295
If i can remember correctly the bad futures were big plot holes on their own, the Tirek, Sombra, Chrysalis and Flim Flam timelines would require Nightmare Moon to be stopped to exist, which would require the elements, the Discord timeline could arguably be set in the past during his initial attack, but even them Twilight's existence wouldn't be able to influence it since it took place years before she was even born, to be honest if they just went with the nightmare moon timeline it would have worked just fine, it did a good job showing the mane 6 in a scenario where they never had Twilight around to unite them in the first place
Also let's be honest, autistic "muh fantasy world" faggot shit isn't good for this show, the last thing we need is moer faggots wanting FiM to turn into their autistic D&D shit
>>26798351
are you high?
They are the wielders of the elements of harmony, the no.1 weapons against evil. It is possible for celestia and co defeat some others through hard work, but impossible to defeat all of them without the necessary weapons.
How is that a contrivance?
that face was made to be raped.
>>26798375
>which would require the elements
or Celestia was able to kill/imprison/remove the evil on her own, maybe through a long war.
> the Discord timeline could arguably be set in the past during his initial attack
or it exist in the same timeline as now, except discord was able to do whatever he wanted after he got free.
here, let me paint you how it could have happened in each scenario:
-first timeline(Sombra)
NNM got defeated and imprisoned by Celestia after a long war, During this war Discords statue got destroyed and Changelings never attacked Canterlot. To make sure NNM would have no chance to escape Tartarus, she increased security, thus Tirek couldn't escape. Sombra used the chance of the weakened army of celestia to start his attack.
-Second timeline(Changelings)
NNM got defeated pretty fast, but Discords statue got destroyed anyway. Changelings attacked Canterlot and beat Celestia. Sombra came back, but was quickly defeated by the shapeshifters. Tirek broke out of prison, but after trying to suck Magic out of a changeling, got overwhelmed by them when he was still weak.
-Third timeline(NNM)
NNM beat celestia and imprisoned her. She knew the dangers of discord and destroyed the statue, as she had no problem killing him. As NNM ruled with fear, changelings saw no love to feed on. She also increased the army thus when Sombra came back, she quickly defeated him. Just like celestia, she imprisoned people in Tartarus and increased security so no Tirek as well.
-Fourth timeline(Tirek)
NNM got defeated, but Discord got free. Due to discords new rule, Changelings never bothered to attack his domain. Tirek came and offered him a deal of even more power, Discord agreed but eventually Tirek sucked out his chaos magic and ruled the world, Sombra had no chance.
-Fifth timeline(Flim Flam)
during one of the villains attack, Flim Flam offered their services of automated weapons, in return they would own some of the land. The rest is capitalism.
>>26798293
Basically yes. 1984 is pretty heavy handed itself, but it has some subtlety. I suppose the episode does too, 'eastern ponies' and the visual reference to Apple's 1984 commercial are things that not everybody catches the first time around.
>>26798457
>or Celestia was able to kill/imprison/remove the evil on her own
>>26798376
Then why the fuck are there multiple different villain timelines? Shouldn't every single one be the one that Celestia couldn't stop? The only thing changing between them is how Rainbow Dash is stopped from doing the Rainboom, but there's no connection between that and the future changing a dozen times.
The only way to justify having multiple different timelines is if the Twilight and co. are not necessary for solving every single problem. But that would nullify the entire episode because their importance is the entire solution to the conflict.
It's a plot hole because it doesn't make any sense, and it's contrived because it's forced to be nonsensical for the sake of resolution.
>>26798457
But what the fuck causes one timeline to happen and another not to?
>>26798457
oh, i forgot discors timeline, but it is pretty much the same as Tirek's one, except this time he didn't get fooled by Tirek
>>26798474
>Then why the fuck are there multiple different villain timelines?
Butterfly effect fucker, do you even know what that is? Zecora explained it.
>But that would nullify the entire episode because their importance is the entire solution to the conflict.
No, because yes, there MAY be a way for Celestia and co to deal with every problem on her own, but the chance of that happening is VERY VERY VERY low, especially considering what future villains could still pop up
>But what the fuck causes one timeline to happen and another not to?
Butter.fly.effect
A single change in the past causes millions of other changes between then and the start of the series.
ESPECIALLY considering Rainbowdash is the one who got hindered each time. She is one of the ponies with the most potential. NNM made her a personal guard, Celestia made her a commanding officer.
>>26798467
Do not even. My point was that Cutie Map is what happens when you put 1984 in a shredder and try and piece it back together without knowing anything about the story beforehand.
Almost nothing is carried over correctly, because the writers didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. Orwell get's to get away with being heavy handed because his critique was spot on, Cutie Map doesn't deserve to be excused.
>>26798457
Problem is that the Nightmare Moon scenario happened before all the others, even if any of the other villains appeared they would need to face Nightmare Moon herself which would end really differently from what we got, like how Luna was in the Discord timeline for example, also remember that during the Nightmare Moon initial appearance she fucking kidnapped Celestia, who only managed to do anything AFTER NM was defeated, the same Celestia who got BTFO by Chrysalis without a problem too, at the end of the day all the timelines besides maybe the Discord one wouldn't exist like they did because of NM
>>26798500
Only one thing changes: how Rainbow is stopped. Explain how the butterfly effect from Rainbow getting distracted by a fight or getting talked to for a minute makes the difference between NMM or FF.
>>26798511
>Problem is that the Nightmare Moon scenario happened before all the others
I know i wrote a lot, but i explained how in each scenario nightmare moon got stopped. In one scenario she was even converted back by simply Celestia helping her recover.
>she fucking kidnapped Celestia
And in the others she didn't. Is it really so hard a concept to grasp that things can change? Especially to celestia who never had twilight as a student?
>>26798535
BUTTER FLY EFFECT
look it up you asswipe, listen to zecora, whatever.
Look, let me paint you another picture:
Let's say i travel back in time, go bump into someone unimportant, and then travel back and find out Nazis rule the earth. What happened?
Well, the guy i bumped into was 1 second late to where he was originally suppose to be, which caused him to be stopped by a redlight. That waiting caused him to be late for work, as this was the third time in the same month, he gets fired. As it turned out, if he had gotten in time he would eventually be promoted and lived a happy life, but not now. As it turned out he was friends with a Neonazi, who promised him good work with good pay, and the things he said also started to sound good now that it seemed like the world doesn't want him anymore. He eventually became a Neonazi himself. With his help, they recruited more people into their cult, one of them was a very charismatic person, who otherwise would have been ignored due to low personal of their cult. This charismatic person gained quickly popularity in their neonazi cult and it didn't took long for him to become their leader. Due to his charisma, their cult grew larger and larger, and in one poor country due to the immigrant problems, he pushed the people forward to vote for their new political party, and they succeeded. The rest should be obvious.
Just because i bumped into one guy.
>>26798541
I keep my stance to be honest, most of the shit you suggested are big stretches that can't be proven unless you go full headcanon, also Celestia grew fucking useless over the years as Canterlot wedding showed, and without Twilight she would just end up waiting for the element of magic who would never come to save her royal ass from Nightmare Moon
>>26798578
Also adding, my initial point was that they fell apart because they didn't matched the timeline unless you considered a bunch of variables that could or not be changed, which even them wouldn't end like they did because Twilight's existence would heavily influence specific events
>>26798577
I understand what the butterfly effect is, my point is that it doesn't instantly solve all the problems with the episode and it's a shitty, lazy way to ignore those problems.
>>26798578
how are ANY of these stretches other than Discords statue getting destroyed?(My own headcanon is actually that Discord status simply took longer to awaken, but that would be hard to explain)
>also Celestia grew fucking useless over the years as Canterlot wedding showed
she wasn't useless, Chrysalis was simply that powerful. Even Chrysalis herself was surprised she became THAT powerful.
>without Twilight she would just end up waiting for the element of magic who would never come to save her royal ass
or she realized her prophecy about twilight/that one unicorn that showed great magic was wrong and increased security during the time NNM was suppose to come back.
>>26798593
i...what? None of what you just said makes any sense
>>26798411
CAN SOMEBODY GIVE ME THE SAUCE?
>>26798631
>I understand what the butterfly effect is
you clearly do not, i quote
>Only one thing changes: how Rainbow is stopped
ONE thing is enough
>my point is that it doesn't instantly solve all the problems
it does in regards to why each timeline is different, which is why i brought up the butterfly effect
you just forcefully try to find reasons to hate the episode
>>26798643
No, itt we apply our headcanons to fix issues the writers couldn't be bothered to fix themselves. No porn for you.
>>26798652
sorry, me again, your stupidity rubbed off on me
>ONE thing is enough
is not what i meant to say
more like "HOW that one thing changes is enough, as it was different each time. And those differences give it enough changes over time"
>>26798652
You can't just say "butterfly effect", consider the argument won, and then get buttmad when someone calls you out on how lazy that shit is.
Because it is. It is lazy. It's low quality, lazy writing.
>>26798674
You can't just say "It is lazy", consider the argument won, and then get buttmad when someone calls you out on how obvious that shit is.
Because it is. It is obviously the butterfly effect. It's standard quality, realistic writing.
>>26798661
i don't give a fuck give me that sauce nigger
>>26798707
your new is showing
>>26798703
There is no example, not one, of a good story using the butterfly effect as a plot device without explaining how the tiny action caused the big action. You spent two paragraphs going on about a hypothetical butterfly effect scenario. You wanna know why you just didn't say "here's what changed and here's the ultimate effect"? Because that would be lazy shit that defeats the whole purpose of using the butterfly effect in a narrative.
You know what that finale was? Lazy shit that defeated the whole purpose of the butterfly effect for a shoddy shot at internal consistency.
>>26798707
>ebin advice animal maymay
Take your own advice.
>>26796164
well unlike Starlight
Hitler helped the people of germany instead of creating a shit equality club, i mean which is more sexy an equal sign ( = ) or a swastika?
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>>26794529
kill yourself buddy
>>26799542
godwin's law anon
I'm not even pisses at the shitty backstory. I'm more pissed at the shitty angle if sympathetic victim the tried to sell to us. How the fuck is the mare a goddamned victim when literally her problem could've only existed threw sheer ignorance. Like Holy Shit show.
Filly glimmy is cute as fuck
would molest/10
>>26799988
Trip-Dubs confirm.
>>26799542
>helped the people of Germany
When will this meme die?
>>>/his/855302
>>26794510
This character wasn't even suppose to be in the show. SJW, fascism and equality bullshit has no business inside a little girls cartoon.
>>26800677
where the fuck have you been in the past decades? This kind of shit has been tackled a lot of times in the past, the PPG communism episode, the shitloads of anti nazi episodes like Captain Planet and Hey Arnold's, hell PPG even had an episode with a crazy feminist villain and another where mojo jojo keeps bitching about "being opressed" by the girls, Fairly oddparents had that one episode where Timmy wishes for a world where everybody is equal, and those are just the ones from the top of my head
>>26800716
And you think that's a good thing don't you faggot?
>>26800791
Yes, its a good thing to introduce kids to this kind of stuff so they can understands the basics of what makes society tick, bitch about your boogeymen and "muh pandering" if you want but when done right its a good thing
>>26796192
I saw a video somewhere that suggested that her current backstory could work if her friend was changed to Sunset Shimmer. So lets work that using her Image song ‘My Past is not Today’ and the comics as a roadmap.
So Glim and Shim are besties who do everything together, when they were close Shimmer behaved like she does in Rainbow Rocks onward and helped the shy and nerdy Glimmer come out of her shell by being friendly and forgiving. However, when Glimmer gets her cutie mark and is picked to be Celestia’s Student she has to leave and they see each other less and less. As a result, without her outgoing friend Shimmer retreats into herself and remains a blankflank well past the normal age for a Pony.
Over the next few years Glimmer, who’s only connection to the world outside her books is Shimmer, watches her friend slowly mutate into a bitter, selfish and power hungry maniac. After a painful fight Glimmer vanishes without a trace leaving Shimmer heartbroken, she comes to the conclusion that it was her cutie mark that started her friend’s obsession with magic and her heatless ambition. She decided to rid the world of Cutimarks and create a utopia that utterly rejects Shimmer exceptionalist philosophy and gains her cutimark after discovering the sameness spell.
>>26800843
>I saw a video somewhere that suggested that her current backstory could work if her friend was changed to Sunset Shimmer
How about no
>>26800843
Why the fuck do fans come up with better stories than the actual show?
>>26801637
because you're more part of the fandom than fan of the show, that story is fucking shit tier
>>26794510
>Filly Glimmer
I want toraise her as a daughter.
>>26802531
Go away, Twilight.
>>26802664
mfw this thread is dead
>>26803199
>Glimmer
>not dead
