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"Did you ever consider the blast processing of the Genesis?
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"Did you ever consider the blast processing of the Genesis? How it DWARFED the technological capabilities of the Supernintendo? Genesis DOES what Nintendon't!"
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>>25697532
But we got mario and zelda, get fucked, purplenogaems
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>>25697532
I never liked Sanic anyways.
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>>25697532
For a second I was wondering why Twilight was comparing creationism with a Super Ninentdo.
Shining Force was the shit.
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>>25697532
I like you.

>>25697547
>muh mario and zelda
Stop being such a goddamn faggot.
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>>25697532
Yes let me just hook up that 5th gen Sega, WHAT!?!? you mean there is no 5th gen Sega, You mean there are no new good sonic games, you mean that the best game sonic has been in for the last decade is a mario game.
Ninten-do what Sega is to slow to do.
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>>25697532
It had sonic and sonic created autism
nintendo: 1
sega: 0
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>>25697532
I don't care about how emotionally invested you pathetically are in this argument, my PC can emulate both so I'll play both.
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>>25697579
At least the super nintendo had decent colors and didn'0t give me fucking headaches with the almost monochrome schemes in the sega games.
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>>25697601
In the years that snes and sega were a thing, your potato couldn't have been able to run their emulators, unless you were fucking rich.
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>>25697620
This, I'd like to see you run fucking shit on those potato computers, I'd pay to see that, let me just get my popcorn.
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>>25697601
man, i still have my SNES, my PS2, and i'm playing on PS3.
the PC can emulate anything, but there's a charm in the consoles.
i miss the days when we had cartriges.
i like the phisical stuff. for some reason, i'm more calm knowing i have the game in my hands
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>>25697651
I can't wait for 3Dprinters that can't print electronics, just imagine going to the pirate bay, typing "snes", downloading the blueprint of it and some cartridges, and three hours later you can play.
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>>25697532
It's "Sega does"
Nice try though
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>>25697651
I am kinda like an hybrid in that aspect.
I enjoyed having the physical stuff, but I have no problem using emulators (as long as their glitches are minimal and tolerable, if not fuck that shit) and virtual things.
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>>25697697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YV5jV3olWI

"But thats not what the commercial said Anon."
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>>25697645
Yeah, gimme a second, just gotta let the ol' Cray Y-MP warm up for a bit. Should be able to run Sonic CD, at least if you believe hard enough.
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>all these Nintendo plebs
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>>25697532
"Look, it's all well, fine, and good that Sega had the better processor in it, Twilight, but--"
>she stomps her hoof on the ground
>"No! It was superior in every way! Anon, give me one spec that the Super Nintendo had that the Genesis didn't beat it in! NAME! ONE!"
>her mane is rapidly becoming frazzled, an anger-driven twitch running through her left eye
>you sigh
"You mean aside from sales numbers?"
>"Anon--!"
"Fun."
>this word seems to take her aback a bit, and she blinks
>"Huh?"
>you unpause your SNES and return to the Super Mario World run you were working on
>by this point you probably didn't even need to look at the screen
>but this is more important than the conversation, so you put your whole concentration in clearing Soda Lake while you talk
"Sega made a fantastic piece of hardware, I don't think there's much point in arguing that with you. They did a decent job of constructing games that made use of that hardware, too."
>you hammer the Y button and spin your way through the Torpedo Ted barrage
"But each generation of consoles, someone has the bright idea to really push the limits of this system that's designed to play games. Say that out loud, Twilight. Play games."
>you give her a second, but she stays silent, glaring sullenly at you as you knock out Cheep Cheeps with your impenetrable wall of cape
"Which is more impressive? The artist that can produce a photorealistic painting of a scene, or one that can convey an entire emotional sensation with five lines?"
>you grab the last dragon coin and swim Mario up the pipe to the exit
"Console companies get all caught up in who has the highest-res graphics, who can squeeze out a better framerate, who supports the most third-party devs, who has the best exclusives."
>you clear with another perfect 50; next level you can probably milk a few 1-ups from the bonus stage
"Nintendo did (and does) do well because they make games fun. Not pretty. Not realistic. Fun. You should try it sometime."
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>>25697532
>Genesis DOES what Nintendon't!
Yeah: suck.
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>>25697678
>paying thousands of dollars (not including cost of resources which may or may not be available)
to make a copy of $30 technology you can already emulate

though i guess you could make forgeries of rare games and sell them to gullible collectors for a profit
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SNES>SEGA>NES
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>>25697848
Anon ruins everything.
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>>25697989
>Anon fixes everything.
FTFY
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>>25697997
(No it's a joke off Adam ruins everything)
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>>25697989
That's kind of his job
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>>25697532
>shitty small color pallet
>ultra shitty music
you can't do this shit on geneshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1QfIbLulf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5FFDj7vH6E
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>>25697882
You are saying that like a 3D printer that can print electronics wouldn't be able to print 3D printers that can print electronics, you silly faggot :3
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>>25698030
Both of those games are overrated as fuck.
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>>25698063
>Implying Sanic isn't
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>>25698063
>o-overrated
you're right tough, genesis had no overrated games, you first need good games for that
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>>25698142
Sega had sonic and.... Um.... Mortal combat clone?
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>>25698063
so is autism, but here we are, witnessing yours.
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>>25698142
Hey, Rocket Knight was a fucking institution in my house, you shut your mouth!
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>>25698218
and battle tanx was the same in mine, both are shit tho, anon.
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Both systems had their merits, and both had their signature games. Whichever side of the console wars you came down on, you are entitled to that opinion.

That being said, I bought my first Nintendo in 1990 as a kid, and have remained loyal ever since.

Also: >>25697824
Underrated post.
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>>25698337
It is really not underrated, who the hell owned a fucking room sized computer in 1990? Only if you were massively rich.
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>>25698142
>Comix Zone
Get out.
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I got my NES in 89 and moved onto SNES after that. I never wavered til PS1 came out and Final Fantasy moved ship.

It was a good move.

Also RPGs were a hell of a lot more fun on SNES. I never enjoyed Phantasy Star beyond 4 or Online on the DC.
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>>25698396
I think you misunderstand. The Nintendo I owned in 1990 was a SNES.

The CRAY thing was a joke that I found exceptionally funny.

The two are not related.
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>>25698435
SNES did not come out in 1990 unless you lived in Japan.
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Who Road Rash 2 here?
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>>25698447
Maybe it was 91? I don't know, I was only five or six at the time. All I know is a saved every cent of birthday money and allowance my whole life until I could Nintendo.
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>>25698464
I got mine late 91 for my 6th birthday. I think it was summer when it came out? How the fuck did you manage to save up so much by that age? You lucky fuck. I was happy with a buck a week allowance at that age and 10 bucks a birthday.
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>>25698337
yeah, the one you're raised with is the one you defend

that being said I pitty the side that didn't had megaman x
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>>25698494
I was a retarded child and thought X meant 10 and was confused about the missing games.

Good times.
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>>25698463
Am I close enough?
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>tfw even as a child I knew this was hot garbage.
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>>25698494
>>25698516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOASEZW2tYk
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>>25698546
Duel D-pads made me feel weird and I got sick playing Wario.
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>>25698539
yeah, you're cool. Though it's disappointing no one ever put RRII on top of a Sonic and Knuckles top loader. It looked rad as fuck seeing sonic next to a motorcycle before it was autistic
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>>25698494
I wasn't raised with it, I picked it as a child. I played both Sega and Nintendo at friends houses growing up. I chose Nintendo, and bought one as soon as I could.

I respect your preference for Genesis, but my choice of Nintendo was conscious. I wasn't just raised to it.
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>>25698576
Also, to be clear, I am not denying that I'm a massive Nintendofag; I know that I am. I have a Power Glove in the room with me as we speak.
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>>25698595
Fuck you The Wizard for making that seem like a viable product to my young mind.
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My dad bought Zelda ALTTP for "us kids" and ended up hogging the fucking SNES for two weeks. Fucker could not beat the last boss though and I had to do it.
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>>25698677
I think the only game I ever got mine working with decently was Double Dragon. I should find the old codes for the thing and dust it off.
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>>25697532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfBQppaKcS8
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>>25698662
I beat Ganon with a bee, lol but it really helped because the bee will track him when he is invisible
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>>25698609
I don't know why that was upside-down the first time, but I wish to once again reconfirm that now she is playing with power.
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>>25698717
I didint knew that
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So, we /vr/ now? I'm okay with this.
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>>25698778
As am I friend.

Are there any images of ponies with retro video games, maybe some cozy green about it?

I'd really like to see that.
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>>25698778
Quick start fighting over CRT vs LCD and why Ecco is only good while stoned.
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>>25698793
Have my shitty OC.
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>>25698494
>Be a dumbass 6 yr old
>Get introduced to Mega Man X by a cousin
>He just calls it Mega Man
>Notice Mega Man has a friend in Red.
>Spend years thinking Zero and Protoman were the same guy

God I was a dumbass.
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>>25698797
Also don't forget the one Anon constantly bitching about GBA not being allowed on /vr/
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>>25698851
>Spend years thinking Zero and Protoman were the same guy
who didn't?
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>>25698820

well it's green. I'll give you that.
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>>25698820
>Atari pone
>not a wood finish color scheme
You dun goofed.
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>>25698931
>>25698991
I created that faggot OC in 20 minutes and have not had the heart to change it in 4 years.
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>>25698851
>>25698897
How the fuck? the name even said bass.
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>>25699016
Well, I can't begrudge you that.
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>>25697678
Just buy a raspberry pi and a console shaped case http://cdn.mos.techradar.com/art/magazines/Linux/Issue%20164/LXF164.tut_rpi.sonicpib-1200-80.jpg
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GET THE POWER
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>>25697532
for the anons who don't understand clearly, the Super Nintendo and Megadriv.. er Sega Genesis Anon brought there one day are considered like supercomputers in Equestria. Or like, a cluster of supercomputers fitting into a shoebox, for us humans.
In the Canterlot Magic and Science center, the SNES is running 24/7 with some magnetic reel-to-reel tape recorders connected to it to store the daily giga-byte of processed data and thousands of lines of assembly code.
that single processor and its 1.8 million of 16-bit instructions per second is monstrous and is helping advanced unicorn wizards exploring new kind of spells.

The Genesis however is hosted on another facility, with the same kind of configuration but the processor has a different architecture, still useful for ponies, breaking the logic of very complex spells, or reverse-engineering them, and is rumored to be much more powerful with some extension module and its modular timing, up to 8MHz or twice the Super Nintendo.
it's almost they could have simulated a pony's brain or some... an artificial intelligence with this machine, and it's got that laser optical data storage device that can store several gigabits into one crystal disc, or more information than all of Canterlot Palace's library...into one single disc! it's almost scary.
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CPU wise, the genesis was faster but not by the huge gap comparing clock by clock implies, because the 65816 architecture is around 1.5x faster per clock cycle than the 68000 due it being a CPU with 32bit internal bus, 16bit external bus and no cache.
This means that when the Snes is operating at its top speed, 3.58 Mhz, it is the equivalent of a 5.37 Mhz sega genesis. But a lot of cartridges (including several action and sports games) did used a slower ROM that slowed down the whole system to 2.68 Mhz, which made it be equivalent of 4 Mhz genesis that is pretty much half of what genesis offered.

Now to other points, genesis and snes could have the EXACT SAME NUMBER of tiles in their memories, and both system used tiles with 16 colors each, but genesis only offered 4 sets of colors to its tiles, and those sets were made out of 512 colors, while snes offered 8 sets, with each being made of colors made out of 32768 colors, which is where the main video advantage of the snes comes from, besides transparency and mode 7 etc..

Now on the audio department, it's a quite a pick your poison scenario.
The sega genesis audio is made out of heavily distorted "nes like beeps", made to sound like instruments, and thus always using the maximum sample rate of the system and never sounding muffled, but you had to program it VERY WELL to not make it sound like metallic hell.
Snes on other hand required no synth wizardry because its songs were made out of tiny wave samples that played in different speeds to make the notes, but you had to shove those into cartridges and the 64KB buffer, which meant low quality muffled samples in a lot of cases, to not mention that if the samples are shit, it will still sound like shit.

Also a last point is that snes games were generally bigger because it required cheaper 8bit,2.68 Mhz ROM chips rather than the expensive 16bit, 7.67 Mhz ROM chips used on the genesis, but as i pointed out previously, that made the SNES CPU run very slowly.
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>>25698546
>First-class animation
>DiC
Why do you dwell in a house of lies?
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>>25697532
Twilight, Genesis had a fucking awful sound chip. Sure, It was capable of FM synthesis, but 9/10 composers had no idea how to use it. Most of them just ended up creating grating white noise sounds that make the SNES look like the holy grail of sound processing.

Besides that, blast processing was a myth. Ever hear of mode 7? Its the same concept.

Sorry twi, if you wanted to discuss human video game consoles, you'll have to do a little more research.

Now can we get back to playing "shitty graphics" games like Donkey Kong Country?

Oh yea and also its your turn to do dishes tonight. Unless you want to double down, but if you lose, you have to wear a cute little maid outfit and I get to take pictures.

Just try and beat my flowchart ken bitch.
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>>25701268
>but you had to program it VERY WELL to not make it sound like metallic hell.
>genesis music always sounded like metallic hell
FTFY
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>>25697532
>raised on Nintendo consoles
>4 years ago bought sega collection for 360
How did the genesis die with so many fun games?
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>>25702243
>Genesis had a fucking awful sound chip.
Uh-huh, sure. Enjoy the subpar midis of the SNES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC-B3Q0cRrY
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>>25702260
>still sounds like nes shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67nkzoJ_2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12rOdMEDP4o
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>>25698546
WTF is this? A cartoon? Just when you thought you had seen everything 90s US had come up with... I honestly can not believe this was a thing.
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>>25702282
>All that midi
Wow, is it 1991 again?

Here, have some proper retro music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofmHCsZMMjw
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>>25702312
>grating bleep bloops and sounds a toaster does when in pain
sure call it "proper" retro, I'll just listen to superior tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZl-PL_goyk
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>>25702327
>FFshit
>superior to anything
No need to even hear that.
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>>25702341
>n-not even hearing it
afraid of listening to a superior sound chip?
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>>25702354
Nah, just no need to hear the same midi chorus repeated over and over again: JRPGs should be banned forever for their crimes against music.
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>>25702382
And against compelling, original plot, don't forget that.
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>>25697532
You asked for this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5RufkDHsdM>>25697532
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>>25702382
kek the song didn't even had chorus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfCV1bVOiGc
also
midis>garbage beeps
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>>25702428
The only good thing about CT is "Memories of green". The rest is so plain it hurts.

Also
Midis=No originality
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>>25697532
Fuck you Captain S
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>>25702453
/v/ go home

/vr/ please stay
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>people shitting on Genesis audio
It could do fucking FM. Not that many games used it though.
https://youtu.be/jWVJkX9maq8
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>>25702312
Don't open your mouth unless you know something. This isn't midi. You're fucking dumbshit retarded. Snes sound chips didn't support midi. You are completely uninformed.
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>>25702260
>>25702312
Nintendo SNES games have an SPC700 chip. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Its funny to watch genesis fags who know nothing about sound design in video games try to explain things.
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>memories of green
>not undersea palace
>not to faraway times
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>>25702476
All joking aside, SNES sound was POTENTIALLY better. Only problem was, while the two console were on two different levels on that matter, the Megadrive was basically the top on its level, while the SNES was the lower end of its. Even a 286 sporting an Adlib could perform better sound than the SNES.

But, in a rough comparison between all the existing consoles in early 90s market, SNES was definitely a step ahead.
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>>25702505
woops meant to >>25702453
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>>25702495
>>25702483
>"OH NO, NINTENDO'S HONOR IS ON THE STAKE! I MUST INTERVENE!"
Nintendofags, everyone.
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This is blast processing.
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>>25702476
That's how voices were done in Contra.
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>>25702511
Most people didn't know how to use FM synthesis compared to the faux-wavetable synthesis of SNES. Tim and Geoff follin were fucking masters of their time. Listen to the way they pushed both the SNES and Genesis sound chips. It mostly has to do with how you use it. Yes. Streets of rage was fucking primo in terms of genesis sound tracks. Arcade's Revenge and DKC also were examples of soundtracks where people knew what they were doing.
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>>25702525
>complaining about information and different points of view on a thread that was clearly meant for discussion
>>>/v/
and don't come back
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>>25702525
Has nothing to do with nintendos honor. I just hate seeing people call the SNES chip "midi". You don't belong in the conversation if you can't comprehend basic facts. This is like someone coming into a science debate with facts from ancient aliens. You don't deserve to talk if you can't get your facts straight.

I love both SNES and Genesis music, so your stupid argument is null and void.
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>>25702543
Ah, contra. Fucking love that faux guitar.
https://youtu.be/2Iu2ZqRyF-k
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>>25702476
Don't expect people to even understand what FM synthesis is. Most of these people have NO CLUE what goes into sound design in terms of video games (or sound design in general)
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>>25697620
>>25697645

Checkmate atheists.
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>>25702563
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>>25697532
>Anon keeps playing to Skyrim with its 8-core PC
>Then stops
"...genewha and snewot?"
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>>25702260

It did have a fucking awful sound chip. That's why it's so good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQFytce51ls
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>>25702648
>not playing NES Elder Scrolls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPN76k5eN6Q
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Even an awful Genesis game could be counted on to have a decent soundtrack.

https://youtu.be/Mq4QuqAoBCw
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>>25702677
I can do better
Golden sun.
ON THE MUTHAFUCKING NES.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vwtcVDW_Sw
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>>25702689
that was amazing
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>no mention of Castlevania: Bloodlines in the entire thread
I knew you guys were faggots, but this is some turbo-faggotry right here.

https://youtu.be/x4HhvGk4Uhk
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>2015
>Still arguing over which was better
Guys, come on, who fucking cares? SNES and Mega Drive / Genesis are both legends in their own way, and they both are completely outdated.

It doesn't matter which sound was better or which console had the better graphics: all that matters is the nice memories they gave us, and that's what we should be treasuring, instead of bickering like raving fanboys still influenced by tv ads.
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>>25702709
I loved the soundtrack in that game. And the fact that they remixed a ton of tracks for use in Circle of the Moon only makes it sweeter.
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>>25702689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCg-hxyaLBo
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>>25702702
Want some Chrono Trigger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXeCDwIl4Ew
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>>25702732
>dat 8 bit rendition of peaceful days
shame the awful battle theme ruined it
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The SNES had Mode 7.
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On the Mega Drive side, meanwhile
>Mario throwing boxes
>THROWING MOTHERFUCKING BOXES

Pirate scene, why???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqkm01Vbk-A
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>>25702723
https://youtu.be/yKJsfwHObvw
https://youtu.be/6RaZtKUt4MA
https://youtu.be/wRrJQiYR5Gw

Not many songs outside of the NES originals make it into as many games as this track.
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SNES had the better library:

Super Mario World
Super Mario RPG
Kirby Super Star
Link to the Past
Super Metroid
Donkey Kong Country 1-3
Mega Man X 1-2
Yoshi's Island
Tetris Attack
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy II-III
Secret of Evermore
Legend of Gaia
Breath of Fire I-II
Super Castlevania IV
Contra III
Uniracers
Super Mario Kart
Star Fox
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>>25702767
indeed it had
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1l5Je3eFrk
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Turtles in Time
Soul Blazer
Actraiser
Sim City
Super Punch-Out
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One of the better homebrews I've ever seen.
It's 95% faithful to pc version. And it sounds even better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBHB51TS5a0&spfreload=10

Download here
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?25663-wolfenstein-3d-demo-for-sega-genesis
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>>25702811
>sim city
I seriously hope you're not comparing that major turd to the original PC game.
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>>>/v/
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>>25702797
>forgetting earthbound
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>>25702828
Ahem.
/vR/, please.

Don't compare glorious retrogaming to casual modern 'gaming'.
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>>25702850
I keep trying to, but you 'tards keep bringing it up. Fuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aO_My7DQmA
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>>25702819
Never speak again.
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Streets of Rage 2, 3(jp)
Thunder Force III, IV
Sonic the Hedgehog 1,2,3, Sonic & Knuckles
Outrun
Golden Axe
Lotus
Lotus II RECS
Gunstar Heroes
Pulseman
Vectorman 1,2
Rainbow Islands
Virtua Racing
Growl
Altered Beast
Comix Zone
Rocket Knight Adventures, Sparkster
Monster World IV
Quackshot
Aladin
Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow
Another World
Flashback
Space Harrier 2
Splatterhouse 2,3
Toejam & Earl
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>>25702942

>Listing Altered Beast

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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>>25702942
Samurai Showdown
Dynamite Headdy
The Lost Vikings
Micromachines
Strider 2
Bonanza Bros
Crack Down
Speedball 2
Alien Soldier
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>>25702969
>Rainbow Islands
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>>25702969
you seem triggered
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>>25702969
Hey, people in here listed Sim City.
Sim motherfucking city.
One of the worst port ever made.
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>>25703000

I'm not. I just find it funny how someone would put the butchered version of the arcade game as one of the good Genesis games.
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I may not be a genny fan but no one listed PS4. One of the few decent JRPGs it had.
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>>25697532
I didn't get that caught up in the console wars, Princess. I just had my SNES for Operation Europe: Path to Victory.
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My poor sap of a cousin got a Jaguar thinking that more bits meant more power and fun. Oh the lies the ads taught us back then. He figured it was going to crush Nintendo and Sega.
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>>25703022
Dude, it was 1988. It wasn't definitely a faithful port, but it was what the console (and the devs) were able to crap out at that time. If it came out in 1991, I'm sure it would have been a lot better, but as it was it was definitely fun.
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>>25703025
Sorry, not a big fan of RPGs
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>>25703025
genesis had JRPGs?
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>>25703069
A good amount, actually. But, exactly as it was on SNES, they were all the same fucking thing.
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>>25703075
>exactly as it was on SNES, they were all the same fucking thing.
>earthbound
>super mario rpg
>chrono trigger
>secret of mana
>the same thing
kek, poor genesisfags they don't got to experience golden era square
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>>25703091
>"M-Muh JRPGs!!"
Weeb, please.
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>>25703075

>The same fucking thing

OK, tell us how Breath of Fire, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Soul Blazer, and Super Mario RPG are the same thing.
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>>25703069
Phantasy Star, nigga
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>>25703109
oh boy you sure showed me
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>>25703109

>Gets called out on stupid comment
>Resorts to name-calling
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>>25703112
It's not that hard to understand: not everyone likes RPGs, exactly how some people hate sports while others go to extreme extents to explain the different tactics behind them.
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>>25703135
>I don't like them therefore they are the same thing
not making sense there pal
I don't like sports but I know baseball and football are different
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>>25703029
Operation Europe? Really?

That game gets my award for most inappropriate music. A WWII strategy game that uses SNES synthesized rock for turn based battles is a trip.
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>>25703165
To me RPGs aren't. Funny world, ain't it?
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There's no point in arguing which console was or is better now, because they're both free and easy to emulate. Literally doesn't matter.
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>>25703179
>pluhse respect my pleb opinion
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>>25703187
This.
Buy a 40€ Pi2, attach it to the tv and install retropie. Done.
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>>25703206
Pff, couldn't care less bout respect. My opinion stands, and RPGs still bore me to death.
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>>25703248
well, then stop commenting on them as if you knew about what you're talking about
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>>25703253
Why? Cause my terrible opinion makes you feel angry?

Do you even know where you are?
Stop reading if you don't like it, bub.
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>>25703248

But your analogy doesn't work. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of sports knows that baseball, football, and basketball aren't the same.
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>>25703263
Blah blah blah, are all rpgfags so whiny?
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>>25703248

Your analogy doesn't work. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of sports knows that baseball and basketball aren't the same.
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>>25703275

It's more about how shitty your analogy is.
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>>25703285
Stop feeding him.
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>>25703262
sheesh just an advice for people to take you with a grain of salt of bro

but whatever, get all defensive and shitpost all over the thread, I can't stop you
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>>25697848
The SNES had better specs than the genesis in pretty much every single category except the processor, and the genesis usually had to use that extra processing power to close the graphical gap with the super Nintendo. People always forget this, but the genesis came out two whole years before the SNES. Of course it had better specs. This was probably the only generation where Nintendo actually had a technological leg-up on the competition. The legitimate completion, at least. The 3do and Neo Geo had no chance of competing in spite of their far superior specs.
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>>25703294
Yeah, I'm sure they're all eagerly waiting for your wise guidance.
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>>25703253
Seriously guys, it's obvious that this guy means "They're basically the same genre, so foundationally they are more similar than dissimilar" He doesn't literally mean "They're EXACTLY the same". I understand the importance of clarification, but the fact that you guys are even swayed by the belief that he must think they're the exact same game is pretty ridiculous. Anybody can deduce that two separate games are astronomically not likely to be exactly the same, especially if they're familiar with gaming in general.
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>tfw all I had were crpgs like Wasteland and Ultima.

I wanted a NES so bad as a kid just for SMB.
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Fucking plebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8FhGDS5qE
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Seiken Densetsu 3 OST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmZrhGVldk&list=PL4649F0DBF0FC09E3&index=2

Top THIS, twily.
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>>25703933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkwHKKWpoaE

>TFW you already know what's going to happen to Maxim and Selan and you can't do shit to avoid it because this game is a prequel.
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>>25703996
That was a goddamn weird way to chain the games.
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>>25697532
"so then why doesn't Sega have good games or a console anymore?"
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>>25703933
>>25703996
haven't heard of this game
is it good?
is it your typical JRPG or does the gameplay varies somewhat?
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> Snes vs Genesis music talk
> Nobody gives a shit about what the GBA could do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl_6ovZ2E78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffxaj0LQcw0

Behold what can be done with good hardware and a competent dev team, plebs.
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>>25704067
The game is varied enough to not bore you, it has a fuckton of rare drops to hunt, rare monsters to find, feed and evolve so they would fight for you and on top of that it has a magic dungeon 1ith 100 levels that changes every time you visit it and hold the most powerful weapons and armors you can find on the whole game.
But every time you enter, your level drops back to 1, you must leave all of your stuff outside and you can't take anything out unless you found it on a blue chest instead of the regular red ones.
Yes, you get your levels and stuff back once you leave this dungeon.
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>>25704101
Now, if only they could have done something for the non-backlighted screen from the beginning...
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>>25704132
I am a Nintendo fan and even I think the first GBA was rushed as fuck.
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>>25704101
For a handheld released in 2001 I don't think it is super impressive but good songs.
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>>25704101
>gba music
>forgetting golden sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qDvmZoJFVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Ty9gV8v1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEIYmaeqSN4
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SNES games had better music.

Super Mario RPG alone has better music than anything on the Genesis.
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>>25704202
>Golden sun
>no "elemental stars", "happy town" or "an adept's home"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHgwk15aMP4&spfreload=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_5NO3QBqmU&spfreload=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7pBcKlONnA

Guys, come on.
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>>25704234
>an adept's home
>elemental stars
shit how could I forgot those two
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> Snes music discussion
> No Tales of Phantasia opening

This shit belew everyone's minds during the 90's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ2lGEAeSqQ
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>>25704389
We never got that in the US. Also can't view your video in the US.
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>>25704389
Yeah the US never got that til like 2005.
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>>25704409
>>25704419
this, my the first experience with Tales was Symphonia

>tfw downloaded the rom and heard this when fighting undine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsMZXl15FRU
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>>25702689
I swear I'm going to make a game if you skip more than 3 dialogues in 50 milliseconds, anything after that dialogue including voice/story will only say,"Why write text if your only going to skip it?"
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>>25704468
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> Super Castlevania 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTpJUzOhOTo&list=PL79DA330B8AE4C836

So... can I see a Genesis game similar to THIS?
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Anyone wanna come over and play Combat on the 2600 with me? I have not had a friend wanna touch it since 1996.
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YOU ARE ALL FAGS!
SEGA GENESIS FOREVER!
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>>25704759
I didnt play most sega genesis games until the ps2 Sonic mega Collection came out although to be honest Sega's Dreamcast was pretty fun, bookhorse.
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Mega Drive, SNES...the better console was the PcEngine, you fuckwits.
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>>25704818
For side scrolling shooters and Bonk. Pretty much it unless you wanna play Bomberman all day.
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>>25704797
That is the cutest fucking drawing of Derpy I have ever seen. 10/10 would save again,
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SEGA might have been superior in some senses, but their own hubris led them to the oversaturation that spelled their own doom. After all, there's a reason the once-powerful company doesn't make consoles anymore.
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>>25697532
Enjoy your 1x1 resolution where not even my dick can fit in it.
Enjoy your shitty music and unoriginal games with no creativity put into them.
Enjoy your crappy blue mascot with horrible games.
Super Mario World > any sonic game.

Does sonic let you level select? No.
Does Sonic have any rpg elements? Fuck no.
Sonic has le dumb uber speed with no breaks, no control, no radar, which gets youn killed in 16 frames. Enjoy your 16bit trash.

Every SNES version of any game has always been superior compared to the Megadrive.
SNES had 3-lane Animaniacs while MDrive had shitty 2D platforming.
Snes had the faithful to the arcade version TMNT while Genesis had greatly reduced levels and no innovation.
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>>25702769
holy shit! i got that game
it's really weird but funny
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>>25697882
>implying that's the only reason you'd use the 3d printer for
it's just a great way to use it if you like the physical stuff
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bemp
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bemp
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>>25702251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbEJqUeiqLU
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>>25703355
Snes almost never used the 512x448 mode because the 64KB of VRAM limited quite a lot the number of tiles you could have on that mode.
The game on the pic is pretty much the only game to use it ingame.
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>>25704925
Snes runs its games at 256x224, while genesis runs em at 320x224.
Also genesis is full of great games, but sega fanboys don't care about those because muh sega first party shit.
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>>25706288
>Also genesis is full of great games
Care to list a few?
I can help you by menctioning Rocket Knight Adventures and Gunstar Heroes.
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>>25706309
My mind is quite blank at the moment but i can remember
Shinning force 1/2, granada, contra hard corps, Pulseman, Shinobi 3, Herzog Zwei, thunderforces, Landstalker, Quack shot,Phantasy star 4..
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>>25706225
I didn't think that there were any SNES games that used the high resolution graphics mode. I figured it was a purely theoretical capability based on the hardware components.

>>25706288
The enhanced color palette in the SNES went a long way towards making the games look more detailed than the genesis, because I could have sworn the genesis ran at the lower resolution of the two.

>>25704925
The genesis version of Street Fighter 2 ran with a much more consistent framerate than the SNES version, due to the improved clock speed of the CPU. The voice samples were much better on the SNES version, if that's what you're looking for in a fighting game.
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>>25706309
Well, are we counting games that were ported, like Aladdin and Mortal Kombat? Some of those were good, but I would hesitate to say they were good Genesis games. They were just good games.
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>>25706402
Isn't the alladin game on the genesis much better than the one on SNES? I heard that Disney actually worked with the developers on the genesis version to help draw and animate the sprites.
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>>25706391
The genesis DAC is quite bad, and blur the picture horizontally quite badly.
Some games actually abuse it to "increase the number of colors" by using vertical stipples.
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>>25697620
>>25697620
Even way back in the day I had a SNES emulator running on my Win95 computer. ZSNES came out in 1997, five years after the console.

I played Turtles in Time, Link to the Past and then some on those.

Also had some old game boy/color emulator.

Even by that day's standards, that particular PC was pretty gosh darn old.
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Penis
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>>25707233
PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS PENIS
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I had a sega master system.
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>NOW YOU HAVE TO PLAY SEGA, ANON!
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>mfw my father bought the Atari when it first came out
>I thought pong was the single greatest video game ever
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>>25708959
Pong is old and shitty though.
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>>25708959
are you saying it's not anon?
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>>25697882
Ay guys 3d printers even good ones are relatively cheap you can make one for around $400 now a days. Although Some good packs go around for $600+ I bought a bukito portable for around 800 since it was on sale best purchase of my life..
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>>25708959
My first gaming experience was Centipede on the 2600. It was fast paced and fun as fuck.
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I want /v/ to leave
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>>25710135
It's obviously /vr/, given the fact games are liked.
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I've been seeing the words "blast processing" around the internet more lately.

Must be another wave of nostalgia.
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>>25710721
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>>25706288
>Snes runs its games at 256x224, while genesis runs em at 320x224.
Why are you lying to my face? >>25703355 Autistics, never trust an autist. They're so dumb they lie by ignorance.
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>>25708654
Sega can't into rpgs, adventure, explorable games.
Sega can't into inventories, save functions, stats, level ups, economy.
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>>25711258
As was pointed out here: >>25706225

Pretty much only one game use the 512x448 resolution ingame because it requires "16x16" tiles to use the same screen space as the 8x8 tiles on the regular 256x224 mode, and that crushes the visual variety of the stage horribly.

And snes appart from possibly 512x224 don't offer any other video mode.
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>>25711258
Also here:
http://problemkaputt.de/fullsnes.htm#snesppuresolution

Knock yourself out.
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>>25703355
Let's not forget that awful sound process the Genesis had. Most games sounded like you were slaughter goats.
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>>25711321
It was pretty much an 80's synth that on the right hands could sound very good, but finding the right hands was hard, and to make things worse, there was this "standard instrument set" that sounded just awful but was readily available so several genesis musicians did succumbed to the temptation and used it.
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>>25706381
>control+F landstalker

This nigga.
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>>25702942

>no Wonderboy in Monster World
>no ecco the dolphin
>no Landstalker
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>>25697532
You're like under 20 years old Twilight, your first console was what, a Haystation 3? Don't pretend you care about retro gaming.
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>>25711449

Oh and this is coming from a SNES kid. I had a friend who had a genesis so we got along wonderfully. He got to experience all the great RPGs Snes had to offer and I got to experience the more quirkier side on the genesis.
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>All these Snes posters
Wew lad.

The Sega Genesis was originally made to contend with the Nintendo Entertainment System. It had 16 bit graphics, Blast Processing and other fancy technical terms.
Nintendo made the SNES to contend with the Genesis. Sure some of the SNES's specs were better but that's because Sega gave them a challenge.

Without the Genesis or SEGA, Nintendo wouldn't have a reason to make the SNES since they would be dominating the gaming industry unopposed.

That's why it was called the Great Console War of the 90s. Sega and Nintendo duking it out, all the while encouraging one another to do better. Rivalries tend to do that.
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>>25697532
It also has ponies IN it.
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>>25711579
The arcades and developers would push nintendo into doing the snes, but probably it wouln't be as good.
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>>25698063
That's like saying Psychonauts is mainstream
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>>25698546

>Proven Appeal
>Great barter split

What the fuck am I reading?
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>Yo Anon! Pass me the controller bro!
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Buy me a Jaguar, /mlp/
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bemp
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>>25697532

Yeah, Twilight. Genesis dwarfed the Snes in one aspect while being BTFO on every other aspect. And if Genesis is so great, why does the Genesis copy of Doom suck so much? The music on that copy is shit, and half the levels are missing.
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>>25713365
No anon of mine will ever do the math. You'll get a 3DO and that's final.
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>>25714817
I do own a 3DO and it was only good for Road Rash.
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