>magic powered flight
>more control over offensive magic than the ELEMENT of Magic who is also an alicorn
>comprehend and augment a spell made by the greatest wizard in Equestrian history
>even managed to undo cutie marks
Starlight for arch magus of equestria when
twilight was fighting with hate, not friendship.
>>25579322
She had to have been pretty tired by then. Starlight got lots of chances for rest.
>>25579322
It was have been a good wallpaper is that family logo wasn't there.
>>25579408
Just wait for the iTunes version to come out.
>>25579322
Twilight's stronger, but apparently has really, really shitty aim.
>>25579359
>Starlight Glimmer is the chosen one
>Starlight Glimmer is Twilight's padawan
>Then pick related happens
That is called powercreep. We will end like DBZ with more and more powerful villains because the writers can't invent something different. We already are like DBZ
Starlight could be a descendant of Starswirl.
>>25579496
Twilight doesn't have any stamina either
>>25579322
where the hell is everyone getting these HD screencaps? is the episode available yet?
>>25579322
If Twilight would just open her damn eyes she might have stopped missing.
>>25579408
Better?
>>25579322
Yeah, it was a good thing. Twilight shouldn't be the strongest character
>>25579547
Shit hornblood horses can't even into cardio.
Mudhorse master race.
>>25579568
much.
>>25579568
Can I get the two of them on a black background?
>>25579634
I'll try. With or without the beams? I'd guess with.
>>25579663
Yeah, with.
Thanks a lot for trying!
>>25579568
Nice.
This episode had some great art direction.
>>25579568
this is gonna die though.
>>25579699
Those beams are really hard to get out. Still trying for ya though. In case you're wondering.
>>25580703
Also, someone vectoring this may be able to make it a lot more easily and better looking than me by the way.
>>25580703
shit, that look like it's hard to do. especially the magic aura.
>>25579322
>magic powered flight
But that's nothing new.
>>25580972
I'd say that's more like hovering.
>>25581052
It's self-levitation. They are literally doing the exact same thing.
>>25579515
Then you make the sequel more personal, or incompatible to the type of power level from the present one.
In a way, Starlight in the premier was that, with the episode emphasizing her manipulative skills.
>>25581074
oh my bad, I thought you meant that twilight was flying in that scene.
>>25579322
Twilight is the element of Friendship magic not offensive magic..
>>25580972
I want to rub that tummy.
>>25581162
>>25579322
Magic powered flight. That thing that Pumpkin Cake introduced? or that Twilight used to save herself from going splat in CE pt 2? Also Twilight's wings are a direct result of playing cutie mark swap, and all she does is research great wizards and preform their spells better than them.
>>25579515
Please. You people keep comparing these fight scenes to DBZ, even though they don't have anything that is really exclusive to DBZ.
>>25581170
yeah, she looks pretty tubby
>>25581292
Love the "I need an adult" look on young RD's face.
>>25581323
>"I am an adult."
>>25581292
>spike has his dick inside.jpg
>>25581292
>>25581361
>>25580905
Yeah, it's tedious for sure. Never really tried something like this before, so it's taking me a while.
Hope Twilight's beam looks okay now.
>>25581470
Can you post that Spike thumbs up cap?
>>25581470
>>25581493
>>25580972
>I usually only use this to urinate on myself.
i was constantly wondering how she was so powerful.
i mean going toe to toe with an alicorn should require some pretty mad skills.
yes, fatigue might have played a factor, but she managed to keep up from the get go.
also this is kinda the first time those horn lasers are pictured as actually destructive. could have cut a pony in half
>>25581557
>>25581583
That's great, thanks.
>>25579703
I can't believe my eyes
is that a dick between her thighs?
>>25581557
>Wanna /ss/?
>>25581847
Oh shit
>>25581595
tbqh maybe being an alicorn really didn't boost Twilight's power level other than the convenience of flying
>>25581923
i don't know. i mean the show has on multiple occasions, defined 'alicorn magic' as a separate, more powerful form of magic. simply being an alicorn should boost your power.
trixie got a huge boost by an 'alicorn amulet'.
>>25581595
>also this is kinda the first time those horn lasers are pictured as actually destructive
in the trixie episode when she zaps dash with lightning, she says that was supposed to make her writhe in agony.
the same spell can be seen later being used by twilight against tirek when she briefly hits him in the face with it and he yells.
theres also a lot of horn blasts in that episode with plenty of destructive force.
>>25579634
>>25579699
Is there anything glaringly wrong with this, or did I do okay?
>>25582247
yes but it was always kinda 'hit a surface and it explodes off'
this was the first time i remember the lasers cutting things, which for me, feels way more powerful/harmful
everyone/everything before kinda tanked it or just got disintegrated. here things got broken.
just my opinion
>>25582294
looks ok to me, thanks for your work.
also i just noticed that the beams don't go in the same directions as their horns. what is this shit, that's not how light works
>>25582294
holy shit, beautiful man, I'm not even the guy that requested it that's just fucking beautiful
NOT MUH TWILIGHT
Remember when Twilight was the most powerfully magical unicorn in all of Equestria?
Yeah.
>>25582350
maybe it's fucking magic they can direct?
>>25582350
>>25582352
Okay, good. I was worried something would be horribly wrong.
Glad you requested it too. Had to try things to get that looking somewhat right.
>>25582294
>black background instead of transparent one
>>25582382
if they could direct the beam in any direction, why do they always point their horns at something they want to shoot? it emits at the tip and is directed by the position of your hear, so it should be a straight line with the horn
>>25581557
The lip bite is what makes the scene.
>>25582410
Anon requested it that way, so that's what I put up.
Easy enough to make it transparent for you though, so here you go.
Tell me if anything looks off on this please.
>>25582432
position of your *HEAD* of course
>>25579322
Meh this is just writing that betrays the canon for the sake of the story... I have a lot of trouble believing for a second that in a straight 1v1 an alicorn element of magic who's been studying magic her whole life would have any problem at all defeating a random unicorn that happened to have some magical talent.
Starlight isn't strong, twilight was just nerfed is all I'm sayin
>>25582442
>dat black line above glimmer
>>25581292
Holy shit Twilight you pig
>>25582570
all those hayburgers have gotta go somewhere man
>>25582359
I don't, considering she never went hoove-to-hoove with another unicorn in a fight. She also doesn't strike me as the type who studies combat-focused magic.
Again Twilight's specialty is friendship magic. She isn't even on par with a standard guard in terms of combat. All she knows is fullblast and point. Which makes her a glass cannon with hugely diminishing returns. I would blame Shiny for this but he is defensive magic an probably can't fight a lick either without his bubbles.
>>25579322
>did all this on her own
>wasn't some chosen magic student or anything
>all this power and she was perfectly content just making an "equal" society
>only went multiverse crazy in spite
>>25582442
awesome
>>25582622
>all those hayburgers have gotta go somewhere man
i always thought this was a play on the 'casters eat a lot' trope
>>25582855
At the wrong pony to boot. Fluttershy outed her, Twilight just soapboxed in her general direction. Even Starlight has Twilight bias
>>25582755
>>25582846
i'd think being the element of magic warrants above average abilities in pretty much all schools of magic. she could hold her own against tirek, granted with the boost of all alicorn magic, but i think even in that worm starlight would have been able to match her
>>25582537
Whoops.
>>25582755
And yet she's the strongest of the mane 6 in a fight considering she's being studying friendship a good part of her life.
>>25582846
Who are you to say what the standards of that world are? The guards have never been useful and the mane 6 have fought "army trained" soldiers before. Who's to say what Twilight's power level should be when there's inconsistencies all around.
What we know is that Twilight has reason to be strong with magic; Starlight does not.
>>25582950
I don't think the fight with Tirek really counts. Sure he was powerful but his fighting style didn't consist of much more than "stand still while getting hit and then hit back" and the same applied to Twilight. Was taxing on magic but probably didn't take that much combat prowess.
Starlight on the other hand seems much better evading and countering which will compensate for her lesser magic power. Remember, Twilight missed basically all her shots so it didn't really matter how powerful she was. At least that's my theory.
>>25583058
Again, magic =/= good in a fight. There are all kinds of different fields of magic like there are science. A Biologist isn't going to know shit about engineering and vise versa.
And changelings drones are essentially orcs. One step above brainless zombies. A hobbit with a frying pan can beat those so I don't see that as indicative of combat efficiency. And the M6 still lost to them in the end.
>>25583058
>>25582950
Starlight seems overly capable in her own right, it is not like we have Trixie here. And being the element of friendship magic it did give a boost as well as being an alicorn gave her a boost. But how often does Twilight practice combat. I mean really, her goal for most fights is get find the auto win button and slam her hoof down on it.
btw did we set a rule where not only is strongest there is but no one else can train to ever approach her. Seriously, this is a pink home schooled Sunset. She is strong because she dedicated years to practice and had a natural reserve. Moondancer, Trixie, shiny, etc... may have had an affinity for magic, but they don't have the natural talent to work their way up despite years mastering their crafts. Lightning Dust didn't get shit for being a fast as Dash. So why shouldn't Random Twilight rival have a power capable of taking her on.
Also all of this >>25583165
>>25583197
He looks to be of the belief that because she has the power it should have been *ZAP* ded credits.
>>25579322
she is a descendant of starswirl the bearded
>>25583230
>And being the element of friendship magic
twi isn't the element of friendship magic, she's the element of magic
considering this >>25583197
to continue in this comparison, sure, an expert in some field of science might be shit in some other field, but twilight is element of all science, so she should excel in quantum mechanics same as in chemical engineering
spike said something like '[i forgot the number] types of magic and counting', so she clearly practices all kinds of things, like transformation, telekinesis, time magic, etc. we're all just talking out of our asses here, but in my mind, she should be trained in destruction based magic too. and she has combat experience against a number of foes
>>25583357
All we have have to do is wait. They even made a point of wut-ing at her being OP at the end of the finale. We'll find out next season.
I'd put money on descendant/reincarnation of Star Swiggles or just a plot revolving around him and her. They've been teasing shit relating to him for 5seasons. And with this season pulling some power moves like CMCs getting marks and Candyass and Shining Armor fucking, I wouldn't doubt it.
Either way, we'll find out.
>>25583553
Oh, forgot to mention. There's a huge fucking possibility that if Twi wasn't a fat ass she would have won. A little fucking cardio, come on.
>>25583553
yeah probably.
personally, i still like the theory that she's cadence's and armor's daughter from the future/another timeline
>>25583357
>Jack of all Trades, Master of all.
Doesn't have a good ring to it. But then again she got wings and immediately outpaced Dash
>>25583581
You don't learn everything ever written by getting your daily exercise anon.
>>25583603
I would be all over that if it was even close to a possibility.
>>25583637
No but having a little more stamina in an equal fight would have allowed her to press instead of trading back and forth, defensive spell/offensive spell.
If she could keep up the attack until SG was out of mana she would have won.
>>25583197
The fight was at a magical level, anon. Saying the alicorn of magic would be winded again a normal unicorn with no power up pick me ups in that area is like saying a mouse could take out a lion while being trapped in a cage with it.
And while you're being critical on Twilight why not Starlight herself? Starlight wasn't out clever-ing Twilight by being more inventive in her spells nor mastering a new one that Twilight hadn't handled yet. She was executing magic in general with an ease that even the princesses haven't displayed. Having an arsenal as big as Twilight's and even casting a couple of Twilight's signatures better(ex:telekinesis mastery to the point of making herself fly as good as a Pegasus). And where did she get the knowledge, training, and raw talent from? When would she even get the time while running a town. Do you really expect anyone to believe this?
>>25583768
By being sneaky? She was spying on Twilight in a couple episodes and no one seemed to notice her. If that's the case she could sneaky into the castle library to learn more about it.
>>25583833
if it was possible to gain this level of magic from observation and reading, every second unicorn would be starlight/twilight level. or at least a lot more of them. trixie at the least
>>25584025
I have a feeling that Trixie wouldn't even think of that, for her ego would get in the way. Remember, she thought she was the best on her raw talent alone. But, without really knowing how Trixie learned magic in the first place, it's really hard to tell.
>>25584025
But it is actually, it's just that Starlight and Twilight have such a lust for magic that they read a lot about it.
For example, you can learn calculus and advanced physics if you focus (and enjoying) reading a lot of it.
>>25584067
Trixie's problem is that her power is stage magic.
>>25584025
No what is saying that is not every Unicorn gets raw ability that high. But it also doesn't say that only Twilight can be that gifted from jump.
>>25579496
Why does this loop for only 2 claps instead of the full 4
Fix pls.
>>25583768
>saying a mouse could take out a lion while being trapped in a cage with it.
That's a pretty fucking unfair comparison. You know exactly how powerful a regular unicorn can get. Pre-alicorn twilight was already pulling crazy spells of, Shining Armor maintained a magical shield over an entire city by himself and let's not even talk about Star Swirl.
>Having an arsenal as big as Twilight's and even casting a couple of Twilight's signatures better(ex:telekinesis mastery to the point of making herself fly as good as a Pegasus).
Because Starlight studied combat magic specifically. Twilight were diverting her attention in all branches magic, in fact she mostly studies magic in itself. We haven't seen Starlight doing a lot of branching out and we haven't seen her use that many spells (She's never teleported for example). What she's good at is reverse engineering already existing spells and combat magic.
>And where did she get the knowledge, training, and raw talent from?
We haven't seen all of Starlight's life.
>>25584025
>>25584098
But cutie marks have something to do with it as well. Twilight and Starlight are both fortunate that their special talent is just simply "magic."
>>25584098
>>25584125
but the whole premise of the show is that your CM defines your special talent and that someone with a CM related to a task will always be better than someone without. twi's mark and special talent is literally magic.
man i don't know. we can all agree that starlight has abnormally high magic levels that seem suspicious for a 'normal' unicorn eh?
maybe she's just a pony-afghanistan vet or something with loads of combat experience. still doesn't explain how she did a starswirl spell better.
>>25584025
what if
she's
talented
>>25579322
Starlight Glimmer
More like
Starkiller
>>25584176
Starlight's cutie mark looks a lot like Twilight, she probably is a magical talent pony too,
>>25584158
>Starlight studied combat magic specifically
>We haven't seen Starlight doing a lot of branching out
>she's good at is reverse engineering already existing spells and combat magic
these are not really facts but rather observations from this one episode mixed with some interpretation. none of us can do any more at this point, i realize that, but i refuse to believe a 'normal' unicorn can beat twilight 'mary sue' sparkle in any magical discipline simply because she focused on it.
>>25584176
>>25584171
Eh, fair enough. But I do believe that reading and learning as much as possible about magic is the main reason why they're so experienced.
Maybe both Twilight and Starlight have the ability to learn things more easily.
>>25584176
Because unlike Twilight who just panic casted and never touched it again because "1 time use". Starlight studied it. Also Sunset Shimmer is also Twilight tier. Having magic in general as your talent lets you be more powerful. Unless it pigeonholed into stage or defensive magic or Love magic or something.
You need to consider that Twilight was tired, Activating the time spell, using magic in the past and those alternate futures while Glimmer was fresh in every encounter because every time Twilight went back, it was Starlight's first time in the past still.
Twilight's stamina is vast, she was just worn down after all of that.
>>25584318
This is a small point, after the first cast Starlight was essentially reset at every encounter with Twilight losing the magic she used in the other timeframe and sending the three of them back to start.
>>25579322
>Starlight is superior in every way.
toplel
>>25584312
>Starlight studied it
why do you keep coming up with this? nothing indicated starlight studied anything combat related.
twi and sunset never went pony 1-on-1, no saying if she could match her
>>25584249
>'normal' unicorn
>normal
>>25584526
any indication she isn't?
i'm genuinely asking, did i miss anything?
i don't want to hear 'she's able to do that so she's obviously not normal', but 'because she has this she is not normal and can do this'
>>25584158
>She's never teleported for example
She did. When she escaped from Twilight at the end of The Cutie Map. It was also some sort of combo spell, as it also pushed and melted the snow around her
https://youtu.be/pjqqZLa3Ysg?t=53s
>>25584616
I like how you torpedo the counterargument of her fucking with cutiemarks. But since this is the new Twilicorn killed the show type argument I'll just settle for saying again stating she has a magic based talent.
>inb4 we don't know that.
Everything doesn't have to be spelled out to be true, that's why people infer things. And implying the opposite of the closest answer for the sake of arguing that "thing is bad" is stupid.
>>25584910
Stupid is you coming up with assumptions with no basis just to defend bad writing.
It's badly made, let it rot in it's own faults, they're not going to pay you for filling holes in the script.
>>25584641
No she didn't. Look at the hoofprints dragging snow into the cave she clearly used her crowd control spell from earlier and ran.
>>25584641
That wasn't really a teleport. You can she her hoof prints in the cave. She probably just did her bubble spell to distract them.
>>25579322
>magic powered flight
Twi is Nanoha Takamachi. With her Intelligent Device 'Raging Heart', she seeks out the Gem Seeds.
...and Befriends the shit out of you.
>>25584947
Well no one congratulates you for poking holes in everything to validate yourself and your opinion. at most it becomes rhetoric for shitposting that well be posted again hundreds of times between now and the end of the hiatus.
I get it. You hate every move made that doesn't bend to what you want and thus you hate the show. I don't know if you are just someone who hates the show and wants it to end, wants it to go in a new direction that you like, wants it back to how it used to be, or are mad by the lack of Anon fucking your waifu to jack off to, but it is alright, that is you're opinion. And since it gets a reaction that is also shitposters opinion. But I liked it and I like to fill in the blanks when a show leaves a loose end that is repairable and not left out of negligence but because it was show, don't tell. Because not every detail needs a flashback or a novels worth of lore to be a fact.
Now I'll let you have your win and make whatever insult you throw at me to make you seem more right (go for autism it is the easiest) without reply.
>>25583019
nice
I also like the yin-yang way they are at in the scene
>>25582294
Awesome, thanks anon
>>25581292
>>25581439
>this sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBR-Ud9OfbY
>>25584223
Twilight=Vader and so Starlight=Starkiller?
>>25579322
It's like Rocky III. Twilight reached the top, then let her magic get stagnant without realizing it. Starlight was focused on success, so she trained constantly.
