How mad will you be if she's redeemed?
>>25506815
She's going to be redeemed and become Twilight's student regardless of any rage or lack thereof on the part of /mlp/ anons.
>>25506838
/thread
>>25506815
If she isn't, then friendship wouldn't be magic?
>>25506815
Why would I be mad?
Very. But I'm prepared to get mad. At this point she became an even better villain than Discord. Hell, I would prefeer to see her being killed or banished than redeemed.
On the other hand she has grown on me, I wouldn't mind to see her around in S6 (which will probably happen)
But hey, this is a show for little girls, so the second will probably happen.
>>25506815
you mean /when/ she's redeemed, right?
I mean, she's gonna see Equestria absolutely in shambles and literally taken over by evil as a result of her actions, there's no way she'll not change her mind after she see everypony enslaved by nightmare moon.
slavery isn't what she wanted, and her quest for revenge made her loose sight of what she fought for and she'll realize that at some point
>>25506838
She will become redeemed along with every other antagonist i.e. Sunset and Trixie...
Less mad and more disappointed. I would have preferred that she be a recurring villain that popped in from time to time but all signs are pointing to her being redeemed.
>>25506815
100%satisfied
STARLIGHT EXPRESS STARLIGHT EXPRESS STARLIGHT EXPRESS STARLIGHT EXPRESS STARLIGHT EXPRESS
I can't be too mad, but how many more archvillains can the writers come up with if Twilight converts them all anyway?
I noticed that Lord Tirek and Queen Chrysalis are still unredeemed and in the game, though currently banished...
>>25506815
I think we would all be EQUALLY mad.
>>25506815
Very mad, or if there are no consequences for her actions.
>>25506955
FUCK YOUR SHIT CARLOS!
>>25506815
meh / 10
It's expected at this point.
>>25506815
we all know that
>>25506873
this is how I would react
>>25506838
She's won't be Twilight's student, she'll replace Twilight as a Mane 6.
>>25506815
not mad, just disappointed. So far pretty much all the villains and antagonists have been redeemed, it would feel fresh to have her not be redeemed for once under the "magic of friendship" and have her genuinely believe the bs she spews.
>>25506963
>hearing perfect princess talking about muh friendship and muh books the whole day
>dealing with muh appuls, muh parties, muh dresses, m-muh shyness and muh coolness when princess is not around
>no consequences
>>25507005
Doubtful. More like the Mane 7
>>25506955
Carlos you little shit
Post yfwCliff Hanger
>>25507070
>>25506815
I'm going to be more mad if she replaces Sunset Shimmer, taking her place, new Element and Mane 7 Spot.
>>25507070
post yfwcliffhangerandS6 gets canceled
>>25506815
No, she will be lost in time.
Her greed for changing time will make her lost and she won't be back in her actual time, traveling through time for all the rest of her life.
>>25507116
Let's hope so and the movie will be cancelled.
>>25507070
I seriously hope this season ends with a cliff hanger. It would me amazing to have a 4 parts episode.
So how do you guys feel about Season 6 getting hour-long episodes? Hype?
>>25507384
What? Source?
>>25507384
provide proof of such a declaration my racial slur so that i may concur your statement's accuracy.
>>25506815
I don't care if she gets redeemed as long as they don't turn her into Fluttershit 5.0 like they did with Shimmer.
>>25506860
I'm guessing it will be something like this.
>>25506815
What makes her so deserving of getting 4 episodes anyway?
>>25507384
It would be nice. But also dangerous. A hour-long episodes season would probably have some of the greatest episodes ever, but also many of the worst.
Not going to happen.
>>25507426
FiM team still trying to come up with good main villain formula.
>>25507426
Barbie
>>25507426
Gotta set her up for when she joins the M7. Can't just be a literally who that appeared once.
>>25507426
So far she's the only villain who plays the long game.
>>25507449
No, she's going back to her hometown.
>>25507456
You can be serious with this shit.
>>25506815
No, because she will be the one to redeem herself. It won't be forced onto her like every other villain. This is going to be the first Starlight episode, when she joins the rest of the mane 6.
>>25507513
And that will only take place once Twilight Sparkle loses her wings and is only in the background of S6 where she is rebuilding the tree library, right?
>>25507479
>Appears next to M6 in the poster
>Has a book dedicated to her being Twilight's 'Infamous' student. Even though no one will likely recall the time fuckery and Twilight fucked up and didn't tell anyone about the fact she escaped (why else would she be able to go into fucking Canterlot without being spotted?)
>Is appearing with the mane six in a lot of upcoming toy lines, even including a 'cutie mark power' version of her. Something only the M6 can do.
>Our Town doesn't really need her that much.
>>25507513
This too. She may actually realize the errors of her ways and try to help fix the timeline. Which is different from most of the other redemptions.
>>25507522
OK.
>>25506815
Don't care. I just want as much equalpone as possible in S6.
>>25506815
I won't care so long as the reason why Twilight realizes she's in the wrong timeline actually makes sense and isn't bullshit.
>>25506815
If this cunt joins the main cast I will quit this show for good.
>>25507570
That's what I'm betting on. No way Starlight would approve of a world of chaos going by her near breakdown in the premiere. Part 2 is likely her realizing how much she's hurt harmony that promoting it with her selfish revenge.
Which would be a pretty welcome change of pace, the villain themself mostly changing on their own accord with a bit of support.
>>25507989
Bye anon
>>25506815
I wouldn't be mad, just disappointed.
>>25506815
We already know she'll be reformed and had enough time to prepare for it. All we can do now is hope that they'll handle her better than Sunset once she's a protagonist.
>>25507456
>motives are hard to find fault in
You kiddin' m8
>>25506815
Not at all. Maybe I'll even be able to stop being mad about Twilicorn if they turn Princess Purple Perfect into a background character and replace her with Starlight.
>>25507456
You do know the whole equality shit is just so she can be better than everyone else, right? It's not deluded SJW think with good intentions, it's pushing everyone else down so she alone can be at the top.
Well S5 has, so far, had a great track record with redemption so I'm willing to give the idea the benefit of the doubt.
>>25506815
Won't get mad if she gets the crap beaten out of her during the episode.
>>25508100
But she created harmony, the ponies in Our Town were happy. They were 'brainwashed', but then you could also say that the rest of society has just been 'brainwashed' into accepting cutie marks without question from birth.
From Starlight's perspective, you can see why she considers Cutie Marks as oppressive. You have to deal with that brand for the rest of your life and there's nothing you can do about it. What if you were destined to work in a garbage dump? Pretty shit destiny imo.
For any children who might've grown up in Our Town, they wouldn't care that they didn't have their cutie marks. They might think that the rest of society has it worse and if you wanted to convince them otherwise, you might have to do what they could consider 'brainwashing'.
The fault in her plan is that she lied, but it was a necessary evil. If she didn't keep her own talent then she couldn't carry on her ideology. Whether or not she was lying about cutie marks being a bad thing isn't a subjective matter; but she lied once so why should they trust her? etc.Starlight is god tier
>>25508167
>>25508671
She was not in the top tho
the only time she uses her talent or magic is to equalize other pones so they can be all equals
>>25508782
I'm sorry, but stripping every single pony's ability while still retaining yours, effectively makes you the top.
I'd like to sniff Starlight Glimmer's anus
>>25507456
Well it's not going to be as dumb as the EqG redemptions that's for sure
>>25508815
oops
I wanted to say that it wasn't her goal, she indeed has power but she only uses for the greater good
>>25508886
>only uses for the greater good
Oh, most definitely.
I'm sure Twilight and her friends thought the same thing when they were unwillingly equalized.
>>25508915
She does it to force harmony and force friendships instead of letting it happen naturally.
Stop politicizing the show.
She was based off the Harrison Bergeron short story, not stupid SJW bullshit.
>>25508915
>I'm sure Twilight and her friends thought the same thing when they were unwillingly equalized
It's not Starlights fault that they actually think cutiemarks are a good think even after shit like MMC
Sometimes you need to force other's eyes open
>>25507116
S6 will be the last and the movie the end of the show
>>25508968
If the ratings is low and losing money on toy sales it will be cancelled.
>>25509031
neither of which is happening, and the toy sales are 99% of what is important
>>25508949
Not that Anon, but has Larson ever stated that it's inspired by that short story? We've had stuff before that seemed to be obviously based on something else and turned out to be not related at all.
>>25509031
This.Then later down the line, they'll revive the show with all new G5, and make even more shekels.
>>25509055
Disney and Minions toy sales are going up, Hasbro's girls toy sales is going down.
>>25508968
but is the beginning of a EqG series (and more movies too)
>>25509069
First of all, citation needed.
Second of all, acceleration is not the same as velocity.
>>25509031
Not necessarily
They could just want to move on to G5 even with the ratings good and toy sales strong. Just to open up a bunch of new merchandise
>>25509069
Girls toy sales aren't going down, they just made a loss. Pony toy sales are up. The loss came from the Nerf Rebels series that flopped massively.
>>25509095
>acceleration is not the same as velocity
No, but it's the rate of change in velocity.
What's your point?
>>25509104
This.
Hasbro has done it before to refresh product and retail presence. Their clients are never us, their clients are retailers, eventually they get tired of carrying the same line and start asking "So what's new?"
>>25509104
It won't be happen, no one is interesting of G5 after Hasbro betray Lauren Faust and stole idea from Disney.
>>25507087
muh childhood
twicornisracist fag pls go and stay go
>>25509136
The series literally ended on a cliff hanger.
>>25509115
My point is, and I'll be relatively brief because this is the sort of thing that highly paid individuals working for the company deal with constantly and we are just here armchair'ing it, that change in *Sales Growth* is not the same thing as change in *Sales*.
Going from 10% sales growth to 8% is not "declining sales". It's *gaining more sales* at a rate less than previous.
If they sold 10 million units 2 years ago, then 11 million units last year, then 11.75 million units this year, they have less sales growth increase each time, but they're still increasing sales.
If you want to make your argument about "toy sales are going down" then provide some factual numbers about actual physical sales going now, not a decrease in sales growth.
And then take into context the fiscal year and how a toy company itself operates - compare those numbers to where they were at several prior points, not just point out Q3 and go "omfg sales are decreasing!" right before the biggest fucking point of sale for a toy company in the USA.Christmas
>>25508968
That's more or less I think what they're planning now. Gravity Falls is ending this year, and who knows how much longer Star vs has to
Has Hasbro ever stated which Pony is selling the most? Cause if Pretty Princess Twilight isn't in the top 3 we got a major problem
>>25508949
It does have a bit of a political edge to it.
Starlight Glimmer reminds me of the idea of Socialism, the buffer stated between Capitalism and Communism that has to exist in order to allow for Communistic Ideals to thrive.
Although, I think that the conflict between Starlight Glimmer and the mane 6 is more individuality versus authoritarian conformity rather than equality.
>>25509246
Glimmer is a shit tier Marxist though
She can't even into dialectics
And her idea of equality completely contradicts Marx as well
>>25507005
Its already been leaked with a book coming next year. She's going to be Twilights student.
>>25509246
People who say this haven't studied communism and think Stalinism is the epitome of Marxist ideals. They also don't realize that the economic mess we're in is because of capitalism and China's authoritarian usage of it.
>>25509065
He said so in one interview.
>>25509358
Alright, thanks.
>>25509358
>People who say this haven't studied communism and think Stalinism is the epitome of Marxist ideals.
This to be honest family
Even then they don't get Stalinist theory either
>>25509355
Twilight Sparkle will ditch Starlight Glimmer home and she'll quit as princess in Season 6.
>>25509389
Exactly this. *sniff*
>>25509411
I wish I was home so I could post rare zizeks
>>25509358
Yeah, I do not have the best understanding of Marxist ideas.
I was more trying to say that she seems to be trying to harness authoritarian ideals for the benefit the society, but doesn't see the way that is creating new inequity.
>>25509437
I don't have a single picture of Zizek saved after my computer crashed. It's really disappointing.
>>25509440
Yeah it's understandable. Marxism is difficult to understand and Das Kapital gets dry quickly. Also there's a lot of propaganda for and against it that muddles up discussion about it.
Capitalist economies have used authoritarianism and imperialism, especially East Asia with the former and Western nations with the latter.
>>25509475
What would you recommend for an understanding of it? I know a bit about Marxist criticism, but not much about the actual theories behind it.
>>25506863
Flim and Flam were never redeems
Flim Flam brothers confirmed best villains.
>>25509576
Manifesto of the Communist Party
Das Kapital
Society of the Spectacle
The German Ideology
Imperialism, The Highest State Of Capitalism
And pic related
If you can survive them. It's pretty dense stuff, especially Das Kapital. I think all are available online at marxists.org
>>25509636
Not him but thanks
>>25509576
The communist Manifesto is a short and good introduction
from there go to the German Ideology and Imperialism the Highest state of capitalism
Das Kapital is of course obligatory Volume 1 has a lot more flair because Marx himself wrote it and he put all his little touches into it. Volume 2 and 3 are Engels and someone else whose name slips my mind compiling all of Marx's notes into them so it's a dryer read.
>>25509835
how was he so kawaii :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAG-aIYJzM0
>>25506992
I agree
>>25509835
>>25509856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkrM3b_UFHg
>>25509856
dun know
the man is a mystery to me if you've ever looked into his personal life he was at the same time a cruel person who very clearly was brutal and violent but at the same time he was extremely loving and soft. Of course the lighter side of his personality slowly went away as the years had gone by.
"This creature softened my heart of stone. She died and with her died my last warm feelings for humanity."-Stalin on the death of his first wife
>>25509835
>via expansive industrialization and defeating the nazis
just skip the part where he starved millions of his own people and purged undesirables on an order far greater than adolf ever did
>>25509965
it's a joke image macro you autist
>>25509965
Nobody here actually likes Stalin, man. He was charismatic like Hitler was but they were both monstrosities.
>>25509960
Yeah. You can see it also with Khomeini in Iran. He was a very charismatic, loving person but he still imprisoned communists and political opponents. The things people do for ideology and their nations.
Somebody should combine Zizek with Starlight somehow.
Easy-to-understand based Zizek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8LPn4irao
>>25510364
this guy is actually awesome
If it does happen, I do hope to see Starlight have a mental breakdown over what she's caused when she gets an eyeful of the changed Equestria.
>>25509358
>They also don't realize that the economic mess we're in is because of capitalism
Some people believe that it's not capitalism that failed burgerstan, but crony capitalism. In other words, it's the government's involvement that caused the free market to collapse, and if they took their hands off the economy by reducing regulations and not insure banks so that they have nothing to lose by making huge gambles, then maybe we'd be able to work our way out of this mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMGoB01qiA&ab_channel=ReasonTV
>>25510768
The problem is the banks will still make huge gambles without having a lender-of-last-resort backing them up (see: Iceland banking crisis), and when confidence fails in our massively inflated banking system, there would be nothing to save us from total financial collapse.
We need economic reform that prevents corruption in banking. I don't know enough to offer concrete suggestions, but taking our hands off the wheel entirely would not work.
>>25510768
This is what some believe but when you look at the growth models and actual government regulation policies, you'll see that it's less of capitalism being controlled too much and more of it being out of control.
It has spiraled the world into a state of perdition because of it having a necessity of excessive growth and constant supply of ecological and human resources. This is why capitalism moved from a domestic venture to a globalist one, which became exploitative to the extent that Deng Xiaoping crafted his authoritarian capitalist model which is more efficient than the liberal one in the West, with the West's imperialist ventures in the past and with proxy wars in Eastern Europe, South America, and the Middle East today, and with East Asia's economic colonialist ventures in Africa, like with South Korea in Madagascar and China in Sudan.
20th century communism was shit but capitalism is becoming more and more statist for it to survive with a continuous growth model. Either you get stagnation or you need to let it go out of control and the latter leads to state control, exploitation, and economic collapse while the former leads to economic collapse.
There needs to be a new model. I'm not smart enough to figure out what it is though.
>>25506815
That's entirely dependent on how they carry out her redemption.
>>25506815
>>25506838
It's fitting, she is communist and so were several eastern European countries, but they were redeemed and ended up joining NATO. Starlight glimmer is confirmed for an eastern european country.
wow i can smell mane 7 now.
>>25512117
does it smell good?
>>25506838
And then... she becomes the next sunset shimmer
>>25512117
Ahem.
>>25512229
>EqG
>canon
>>25512085
>implying NATO is morally "good"
>implying you understand geopolitics and aren't just a nationalist who sees things through your ideological viewpoint which makes you come across as uneducated and ignorant
>implying you know what communism is or read any works on the system
>implying Starlight Glimmer isn't just a representation of Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron since Larson said so and he's a fan of Vonnegut
It's like you enjoy being a pleb.
>>25506815
Don't worry, it's all a part of the plan
>>25512117
>>25512229
Ahem Ahem AHEM!
>>25512297
>Ahem Ahem AHEM!
>>25512297
This.
>>25508968
This. Why don't people get this
>>25506815
Much, very much.
>>25512297
More like Mane7 and Spike amirite
>>25513215
Spike and the Mane7 sounds like a decent band...
/mlp/ ha A dictator, socialist-fascist president OC back in 2013.
Her tsundere personality was inspired by Manuel Valls, France's PM, wants to ban magic and pegasus for egalitarianism, and basically, ponification of Orwells Animal Farm.
I think we inspired someone at Hasbro...
>>25513266
No. It's based from Kurt Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron. Larson is a fan of Vonnegut. No one cares about your dumb OCs.
>>25507426
Because it's not as easy to defeat the villain if they think they're the hero.
>>25513266
cringed
>>25513266
Speaking of, I'm still searching for the artist behind this pic.
>>25513283
Let me find an even more cringe pic about this.. Fantastic world!
>>25513299
the pic isn't cringey. the way you put it made you sound like those people who think the show took your fanfic ideas or ideas from the fandom when it's inspired from other stuff like this guy said >>25513272
>>25512229
Actually realized something.
>Friendship Games has the group get a 7th member that was a former villain
>Equestrian M6 is going to follow suit
>>25513266
Nah they're a bit different, and even if both depicts a dystopia, there are things that could prove the characters are different, you might just see this as a coincidence.
>>25506815
very
not very, kind of expected
what else are they gonna do, kill her?
>>25512085
>It's fitting, she is communist and so were several eastern European countries, but they were redeemed and ended up joining NATO.
PURE
>>25515890
Post more rare Zizeks please
>>25515931
>>25515975
>>25515999
Trips are absolutely the most stupid thing there is.
Glimmer did nothing wrong. She was merely engaged in the dictatorship phase of the worldwide proletarian revolution.
Workers of the world, unite!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7PrVtZAG4M
>>25516098
>I don't understand communism
>I haven't read Harrison Bergeron
>>25506815
Mad enough to fap.
>>25516113
The institution of a vanguard party is orthodox communism, specifically marxism-leninism, Anon. Glimmer, for all of her faults, represents that.
>>25516131
Larson himself said Glimmer is based from Harrison Bergeron and he's a fan of Vonnegut. If you really think Starlight represents even 20th century communism, then you have a very ignorant view of history and seem to conflate statism, authoritarianism, and the communist regimes of that era.
>>25506815
Nah expected it the moment she was introduced. And basically what this dude says >>25512085. And I hope for this >>25510695 too.
>>25506815
I wouldn't be mad, but I would say rip off.
>>25516161
You say that like it's a bad thing. Glimmer represents a necessary and critical stage of historical development and capital accumulation for the worldwide proletarian revolution.
>>25516176
20th century communism seems to have been a necessary development just as capitalist imperialism and Deng Xiaoping's model are for capitalism, but it doesn't make it any less of a monstrosity. And once again, the show's making a literary reference with Starlight Glimmer, not a particular political one.
>>25516199
Deng Xiaoping was a traitor and revisionist.
>>25506815
You have known loss!
And that loss torments you still!
You hope friendship might one day replace the pain. But it never goes away. It makes a mare Hideous! Inside and Out!
Wouldn't you agree?
>>25506943
Discord is still half-way in the game too. Keep in mind, he's "Good" now, but when he's pissed off, he has been known to pull some crazy shit, like chucking hippies into sock puppet dimensions.
>>25507087
AND THAT'S WHY HE'S CALLED CLIFF HANGER!
Why do I still remember that?
>>25516317
Discord is still evil and he will be dead in Season 6.
Do people seriously think S5 is going to end on a massive cliffhanger?
>>25516635
No. But we hope so.
>>25513310
>>25513266
I think there's huge differences between these two.
Glimmer is more a sect leader than a politician, but she could be seen as a far left leader, she's an interesting character because she wants to initiate some kind of social justice revolution: everyone at the same level. It's not communism.
Kernav is also mischievous, but on another aspect. she's not revolutionary, she don't want to change the world, she wants it to be under control. She's an imperialist, and sustain on a permanent state of war to keep her population under control. I wonder if it count as communism when the government and everything belongs to one mega-corporation.
I could've added Aryanne too, but the character development is hard to focus on, and she's more of a far right leader than a proper national socialist. Maybe I should keep her for later.
>>25516856
>socialist egalitarianism
>socialist
I still don't see where glimmer called for the means of production to be held in common. For all we know she could be a 'class collaboration' kek
>>25517084
This. Unless by "social" he meant essentially regarding the society and not on the economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism
>>25516856
Meghan McCarthy is going highway to hell!
