What's an episode that actually amazed you?
Whether it was by sheer brilliance or sheer stupidity.
>>25486262
Slice of Life, because it had both
>>25486262
The Best Night Ever.
It was a finale about a party, and it was more amazing than it had any right to be.
>>25486262
Cutie Mark Map.
A perfect, red-pilling depiction of communism while still keeping it TV-Y.
>>25486262
Quality thread, OP. Keep it going.
>>25486262
Pinkie Pride. It was feelsy; the songs were excellent; Pinkie Pie wasn't an intolerable annoyance; and it proved that the writers could still churn out episodes of S1's quality if they stopped with the fucking stupid references.
In terms of sheer stupidity, it has to be Princess Spike or Slice of Life. The fact anyone defends those episodes is even more astounding.
Positively? Crusaders of the Lost Mark. I didn't think they'd ever make DT a good character or actually give the CMC their marks.
Negatively? Princess Spike. I was actually agape several times as I watched the episode because of how stupid it was. Not kidding.
>>25486262
I stopped watching LoK after season 3, is season 4 any good?
>>25486262
Pinkie Pride. I fucking love musical episodes and I love Pinkie most of all.
>>25486262
First of all what is with the Avatar face.... Don't answer I'm just curious about it.
If we are talking about sheer brilliance I would have to say the Season 4 Finale. That DBZ fight made it worst watching.
As for sheer stupidity, I would have to say "Do Princess Dream of Magical Sheep", all it did was show Luna being an emo that listens to Linkin Park.
>>25486280
This. As much as I like 'Return of Harmony', I think they made the right call reserving it for the S2 intro rather than using it as the finale for S1. TBNE is still my favorite finale.
>>25486323It's on the same level as season two, in my opinion. Best character returns, Bolin gets proper character moments but Korra herself if still shit. Also the ending is pretty horrible, with how it finishes with Kuvira.
>>25486336
>likes "muh epik battulz"
>dislikes actual character development
Please leave.
>>25486323
Well if you like seeing Toph being an ass to Korra, Korra going through some serious PSD, an actually good recap episode, a possible lesbian scene at the end, and a villain that kinda mixed, then yeah it is.
But I mostly watch it just for Varrick.
>>25486336
>watered down minute long DBZ fight
>worth watching
>>25486262
magical mystery cure
main reason is u guys
my reason it was the first ep i ever watched of mlp
I honestly can't come up with an episode that was so stupid I didn't have a word. But Baby Cakes comes the closest.
>>25486262
Amending fences.
I really wasnt expecting the show going for serious friendship problems.
>>25486302
>if they stopped with the fucking stupid references.
>episode literally has ponified weird al in it
jesus fuck I knew pinkiefags were stupid but this is a whole new level
Without a doubt, Bridal Gossip. It's a brilliant example of what can be done within the restraints of some retarded ass little girl cartoon. It requires next to no character introduction, it's got an objectively good moral, and I don't care who you are, you can't fail to find flutterguy gagging it up while purple nurple has a big, floppy dick on her forehead funny. That episode should have been the pilot, because it's the only candidate I can think of for my go to episode to show someone unfamiliar with the show.
>>25486262
This. Fucking. Song.
The best part is that I got into the show during the season 2-3 hiatus, so this episode was my finale at the time. The song raised it from 10/10 to 11/10
During this song I couldn't believe I was watching My Little fucking Pony.
Suited For Success.
Managed to take the fashionista Archetype and actually make something compelling and very likable and appealing out of it.
Since then Rarity's episodes have pretty much only continued to do that, I love that horse and I never thought I would at first.
>>25486457
but weird al is was a good reference, not a stupid reference/meme
Pinkie Pride and Maud Pie, I'd been kinda burnt out on pone by the time season 4 came about, and with how meh season 3 and the rest of season 4 had been thus far, it was amazing getting those two incredibly well written episodes which each had great feels, humor, and really cozy vibes that made me a bit nostalgic in vain of season 1. I stopped watching pone for a while after Maud Pie because I literally told myself "They probably won't be topping that or Pinkie Pride anytime soon huh."
Inevitably I started watching pone again and season 5 has been great but damn those two episodes had me in awe of how great they were at the time. Also the super speedy cider squeezy song had me in awe because it was amazing.
>>25486323
It's a lot better than 1 and especially 2 but not as good as 3, but to be fair I think 3 was a really high bar. 4 needed more episodes. That I think was it's main problem, bit off more than it could chew in 12 but it was still plenty enjoyable.
>>25486368
The Varrick section of the recap is one of the funniest things iv seen in a cartoon.
>>25486262
Amending Fences, because it's one of the few times where the show touches on the fact that being friends doesn't necessarily mean being as close as the mane 6 are, and because I think it was very realistic and well done.
>>25486288
Not this again...
>>25486262
>sheer brilliance
Amending Fences.I didnt think that such a simple thing and anybody couldnt care less about in the premier could actually work in the way it did
Also,(this is personal),the last thing I would have thought of Rarity was turning her into an actually scary character in Inspiration Manifestation( in Return of Harmony,she was just manipulated) and making the show kinda dark,not many laughable moments there
>for sheer stupidity
Briddle Gossip and Slice of Life.The first one made me laugh though,the mane 6 showed how immature they were,even Apple Bloom had more common sense than all of them
The second is for obvious reasons.
>>25486520
>Not this again...
Hairyson Burgerman = dystopia
Communism done wrong = dystopia
close enough
>>25486482
Spoiler alert:That's not how that works.
>>25486531
What's the problem with Bridal Gossip?
>>25486556
He just explained that it showed how immature the mane 6 are.
Reading comprehension, anon.
>>25486545
How does it work then o wise one?
>>25486604
It just does.I had to.
>>25486531
>The second is for obvious reasons.
Is that reason being you're a faggot unable to enjoy fun?
>>25486639
I pirated your game, fag :^)
>>25486531
Apple Bloom's always smarter than them when it comes to things like that. Remember that none of them could understand Maud at all with a whole episode.
>>25486604
A reference is a reference, whether you like the source material or not. That just decides whether or not you like the reference. In turn, in my opinion, a good or at least well-placed reference is one that you can (not necessarily will) get if you are familiar with the source material, but which does not break the flow of the story itself, i.e. it doesn't feel (too) weird to anyone who's not familiar with the source material. For example, Twilight saying "Winter is coming" into the camera in Tanks for the Memories is a reference that many people will get (and the camera stare makes it even more conspicuous) and is pretty low-hanging fruit, but it is technically fitting for the scene (and I, as someone who hasn't watched Game of Thrones, wasn't especially bothered by it, showing that it was well-placed).
What is bad however is overusing references to a point where it starts breaking the flow and makes you wonder what the writers are trying to accomplish.
>>25486651
>He doesn't like what I like, he must hate fun!
Different people find different things fun, anon. He's obviously referring to the pandering. Liking Slice of Life pretty much depends how many pandas you can tolerate
>>25486651
do I need to explain Slice of Life?holy shit,better I keep lurking and not giving my opinion then
anyway,while I enjoy fun and Larson writing,Slice of Life,even though I didnt get offended at by destroying headcanons(fan tears are delicious btw),that episode was just born for turning it into a big meme,total random things just happened into such a short amount of time for many characters that for example Amethyst and Roseluck didnt get a major role there, such a wasted opportunity
the moral was nice and some references were put in a genius way,but random things like these are just not my thing,I prefer introducing the background ponies slowly or with backstory,this is why I like Minuette more than a popular one like Bon Bon
TL DR:It's just a big forced meme for too many characters in very few minutes introduced without any backstory
>>25486832
>big forced meme
cry more you fucking whiner, none of it was a "meme", you're bitch ass whining about it is more of a meme
>WAH! SLICE OF LIFE WAS GARBAGE
Sorry your headcanon got ruined, losers
>>25486832
Reminder that the purpose of episode 100 was to let the writer(s) have fun with celebrating the milestone, instead of doing a standard episode.
Obviously you can dislike it, but don't get the purpose wrong.
>>25486878
>Fuck you, I love my pandering bullshit!
>>25486948
You were probably one of the faggots who peed himself when Derpy talked.
I enjoyed Slice of Life.
>>25486948
It's either hate it or warship it, huh?
Great logic, dork.
>>25486262
The motives for Seabreeze and Sassy Saddles impressed me with how they made the characters vastly more sympathetic without giving more than a single line of exposition.
A Canterlot Wedding, Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep, and Crusaders of the Lost Mark all pulled out major twists to their stories that the advertising for the episodes hadn't given away at all.
Sleepless in Ponyville featured Luna in a role that made her even more interesting, while still keeping its focus on Scootaloo and developing her friendship with Rainbow Dash. Also, it managed to be a great episode despite being the writer's first MLP-related work and happening in the middle of Season 3.
Party of One and The Cutie Map are downright creepy while remaining within a TV-Y rating.
Amending Fences and Testing Testing 1 2 3 both deal with problems that are similar to real-life ones, and both are pretty maturely handled. Plus they demonstrate how to make Twilight a good character post-MMC.
I just really like this show.
>>25486651
>>25486832
>>25486878
>>25486893
>>25486948
>>25486956
>>25486994
Can't we all agree that it could've been worse?
>>25487044
I at least agree.
>>25487044
>dubs of truth
Absolutely
>>25487021
>"I can't be a part of another failed boutique!"
That was pretty clever, I'll agree with you.
I know you won't get many people defending Season 3, but for such a shitty 13 episode season, it undeniably has several of the shows best and most memorable songs. That probably astounds me most of all
>>25487021
>I just really like this show.
I like you anon. And I agree with your entire post
>>25487066
A person could miss it if they're not paying close enough attention, but it totally explains the way Sassy's been behaving.
>>25487075
aside from MMC I can't recall a single good song from season 3
or were you mostly referring to that episode
>>25486262
"It's About Time", for being a time-travel story that seriously deals with the logical consequences of time-travel. This is not what you would expect for a show with a target audience of 7 year-olds.
>>25486262
"Pinkie Pride" is sheer brilliance.
"What about Discord?" is sheer stupidity.
>>25487159
FUTURE
SCRUNCH
>>25487159
Turns out there were consequences for a lot of things that happened in that episode.
>>25487181
>"The great and powerful Trixie can scrunch twice as hard as that Kyle Reese wannabe"
>>25487241
>google kyle reese
>fictional character of the terminator franchise
what
>>25487267
>Never seen the Terminator
What the fuck, man?
Anyway, he went back in time to warnand protecta girl named Sarah Connor from the Terminator, and evil murderbot guy who was also from the future.
>>25487100
Babs Seed and Raise this Barn are up there IMO. Even if the episodes themselves werent that good
>>25487288
ah shit
i was thinking kyle reese was somehow related to scrunching
nevermind, ignore my autism
>>25486279
This
>>25487100
The Babs Seed Song might be the single most catchy song in the show dude, the episode itself is just average but that doesn't mean teh song isn't great.
>>25486589
That doesn't answer my question at all.
>>25486464
This desu. Bridal Gossip was my favorite early episode that made me realize why I liked it beyond 'cute pones doing cute things'
>>25486262
Keep Calm Flutter On.
This one took me awhile to appreciate. After re-watching the episode knowing that Fluttershy had the situation all under control, even though her friends, Discord, and even the audience (judging from the lengthy debates on the episode) didn't believe in her; I was surprised just how clever Fluttershy was. (Seriously, pay attention to her lines and facial animations)
This episode uses so many layers of psychology it's incredible. Fluttershy played us all.
>>25487805
That's retarded
You're retardedShit you might be right, I need to rewatch it.
>>25487805
>this
I was really confused by the mixed reactions to this episode and saying how Discord was utterly destroyed. It was all very straight-forward. Fluttershy came up with a plan to get herself into Discord's heart as a friend, something he'd never had, and then when he tried to execute his "get out of jail free" move, she blackmailed the shit out that spot she dug in his heart and made him take the concession to behave.
>>25487980
I just think he fell for it too easily and the show did a poor job of explaining why Fluttershy's plan worked.
>>25486262
>sheer brillance
None really, I just like some episodes more than other. I really liked the dream one actually.
>sheer stupidity.
Even above the Reflection ARc, the Cattle Rustler comic arc was so stupid in its logic it hurts it was even made.
I really hope the show never does anything this stupid again.
>>25488005
They were a little subtle, but the details are all there. Discord's never been the best at foreseeing events or understanding people on a level beyond base wants and lies. After all, when he was first imprisoned, his failsafe failed for eons, and he didn't do a great job ensuring that the mane 6 would stay powerless when he did get free. He's always been a bit shortsighted and absurd, so having someone who's willing to put up with him and enjoy his presence is no doubt something he didn't truly expect to happen. He probably assumed Fluttershy was fucking with him, but when she stood up for him at the dinner party, it made him feel feels.
>>25488027
I agree that this episode was retarded, but why is dragonsneeze trees specifically a bad idea? There's nothing surprising about a type of plant named after the fact that dragons are all allergic to it, especially in magical horse land.
>>25488056
I think the biggest problem I have is how unsubtle of a plot contrivance they are. They literally exist nowhere else in the show and do nothing but make Spike fuck things up. They don't even match Canterlot's decor.
>>25488056
It's the biggest contrivance the series has ever had in an episode that completely and totally fails at convincing the audience of its story.
>>25488076
perfect explanation, that makes sense, I now agree
a bit anticlimactic desu
>>25488014
Seconded. Reflections had some serious problems, but it was never as glaringly messed up as that arc was. Twilight's logic was completely immoral, irrational, inconsistent within the story, and didn't match her show characterization or her prior comic characterization. Oh, and she ended up breaking the law anyway without showing an ounce of guilt for it.
I love Twilight and I've loved some of the comics, but I can't believe anyone allowed that story to go to print.
>>25488144
I remember reading the first released description of the arc- the bulls were originally treasure hunters. Why the whole story was so extensively rewritten I cannot understand.
>>25488076
>>25488102
And the reason why the episode as a whole was amazingly awful is that it expected you to buy its shit when it did a terrible job at trying to present its story.
Spike basically did nothing wrong, but the episode wanted to make him into fucking HitlerSatan.
>>25486262
I was pretty impressed by the Crusade for the Lost Mark. It was a musical, so not a lot can be said about the story progression, but it was a great characterization episode which fleshed out more of the idea about nebulous seeming talents like a tiara, which even the pony themselves can misunderstand how to apply in their own life. That, and the idea that having the Cutie Mark Crusaders get their marks in Crusading for Cutie Marks for others is pretty clever. It felt like Magical Mystery Cure done right, since the whole Diamond Tiara redemption actually made sense as a leadup to the transformation of the CMC, whereas in MMC, the recovery of the cutie marks of the mane 5 didn't really logically lead to "alicorn time". She didn't realize her princesshood in re-acquiring her friends' lives, but the CMC did realize their talents in helping DT fully realize her own.
Also, continuity.
>>25488054
Still, I think other episodes like Lost Treasure of Griffonstone and Crusaders of the Lost Mark have handled villain redemptions better by showing reasons for the change before the event and not making the switch from evil to good quite so abrupt.Why do both of the really good redemption episodes have "Lost" in the title?
>>25488212
Really? I don't remember that myself and I followed the comics extensively.
>>25488226
I think that's sort of the trick with Discord though. He never became 100% redeemed. He just found a way to be himself while not conquering Equestria. He jumped ship as soon as he had the potential to have another friend who would let him do whatever he wanted, and he repeatedly uses his mischief to try to break Twilight (for whatever reason). He just enjoys injecting chaos into peoples' lives.
>>25488249
Oh, it came in the form of like those announcement blurbs. Like the Power Ponies annual initially was about Spike being sucked into a Power Ponies book with the actual Power Ponies (like, the characters in the comic) and solving a friendship problem. Hasbro said that there was too much multiverse shit already and made pony Humdrum the protagonist.
But yeah, no idea why they changed the bull arc.
>>25488270
This is why discord is the best character on the show.
Three's A Crowd is my favorite episode from season 4though apparently that's an odd choice
>>25488270
Oh, don't get me wrong, I like that it took some time for Discord to truly stop being a villain. He's been handled decently after that episode. Having him actually say "friendship is magic" and seem totally content at the end of that one, though, is way too quick a shift. It's a good thing they dialed it back in his future appearances.
>>25488335
Yeah, that was a bit goofy to make him do that, but it was all for appearances sake, considering that a moment later he off-handedly says he'll be good "most of the time", and Celestia leaves the elements with Twilight just in case they need to fuck his shit up on a moment's notice.
>>25486520
same amending fences was a brilliant episode and also touched on how twat handled her past friendships and her realization that not being a good friend can really affect people.
>>25486520
Thinking about Amending Fences just made me realize that I haven't spoken to my best friend for the past two years for no reason at all. There was no goodbye, just sudden silence. Holy shit it's strange to realize this. Neither of us have broken the silence after two years. Where the fuck have we been. I should take the episode's lesson and call that fucker up. He's probably just as confused as to why we haven't spoken in so long.
>There are people who still deny that The Cutie Map was inspired by Communism/dystopian fiction
>Even after Larson said that it was
You know the reason why people joked that Starlight was an SJW? It wasn't because of Communist jokes or the like. It was because she was a total hypocrite who took advantage of the weak.
I like whenever they portray Pinkie as anything but a goof ball, usually self doubting. Not that I don't like her default personality, or that I think they'd ever go down the sad clown road, but in a weird way it makes me feel gud to see her struggle. Everyone was shooting their load over Weird Al, but my fav part of that episode was her song.
Amending Fences was a little TOO real. Felt like that was aimed at the college aged crowd, or at least high schoolers. Seven year olds don't generally have old friends they've lost touch of over the years.
The episode was average, but the one where Pinkie babysits probably had the best moral: kids are a lot of work, they're not for fun. I know some adults who could learn that lesson...and some teenage girls. Remember kids, wrap it up.
>>25488586
Do it.
>>25486371
>>25486354
>worst watching
come on guys, it was the worst thing to watch.
oh I don't know maybe some of THIS POOPIE SCOOBIE
>>25489000
solid post anon
>>25489000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct72rlVULew
>>25486262
>>25486279
This. Also, >>25486302 because even with a celebrity guest, it was wonderful
>>25489156
This doesn't seem to have much to do with the thread.
Magical mystery Cure.
Way to make an episode that turns Celestia into a manipulative Machiavellian villain and Twilight into a minion with no value for Independence.
>>25488619
>You know the reason why people joked that Starlight was an SJW?
Because she was the exact opposite of that, and the hypocrites who are ACTUALLY like her have a long-established history of rewriting reality to suit their narrative?
>>25486262
The Best Night Ever was the only finale that I truly enjoyed thus far. It felt like it kept the real spirit of the show in the M6 realizing that the time they spent with each other was what would make the Gala a night to remember over their individual plans.
Slice of Life was over the top and silly to the point where I loved it. A one off "dedicated" to those who like the BG Ponies with a little bit of popular fandom headcannon sprinkled on top.It was "stupidly brilliant" in a fun way.
Return of Harmony was probably my favorite opener next to The Cutie Map, in seeing a villain actually come close to defeating the M6 and turning their personalities upside down. I really liked how well Discord was portrayed.
I think the lesson behind Lesson Zero was good, and the fact that everypony started making letters to Celestia expanded opportunities to learn without twilight necessarily being around always like S1. I didn't realize it then, but it was a great development.
Other notable mentions are Suited for Success, Somepony to Watch Over Me, Maud Pie ,Amending Fences, and Sweet and Elite in no particular order. This show has lots of wonderful episodes amid the few bad or meh ones.The only terrible one I hate to this day is MMC and Twilight's Kingdom due to the DBZ fight being utterly pointless
>>25489375
I wouldn't call it UTTERLY pointless. Ever since we got glowy-eye Twi, I had been wanting to see an unrestrained Twilight using her power to the fullest. I just wish it had actually been HER power that she was fighting with.
>>25489269
oh come of it mate.
>>25489401
Twilight's been shown to have untapped power/potential since Cutie Mark Chronicles. She's been showing her ability in all of her different spells (gravity manipulation, transmutation, frequent teleportation ect) throughout the series up to that battle.
I dont think it'll get any further than what we've seen before, seeing that she had her power and that of 3 other princess-level ponies.
..and it was pretty pointless since Tirek would have bartered for the magic if Twilight kept playing keep away as Celestia originally wanted anyway for similar results.Speaking of which, I also found it ridiculous for Celestia to tell Twilight to not involve her friends after all the dangers they've overcome together
>>25489418
>Stop saying that truth! If I want to say her political leanings are the opposite of what they actually are, then I'll bloody well say her political leanings are the opposite of what they actually are!
It's not like I expected you to stop. Like I said, you've got a well-established history of lying when the truth gets in the way of insulting people.
>>25489625
>He doesn't know about the horseshoe theory
Extremists are basically the same regardless of their claimed ideologies, anon.
>>25489669
That's a common saying, but it's notable that Starlight Glimmer's philosophy explicitly and actively opposes people being different or standing out from the crowd, hides in an isolated community despite thinking that it's the only valid way to live, mistreats anyone who disagrees with them on their "turf" while treating them like invaders, and ridicules the "sanctimony" of accepting diversity without a rational response. Absolute comparatives aside, it's a remarkably point-for-point representation of one specific side of the argument, but that side claims she represents their enemies for reasons which are all variants of "she's evil".
>>25489791
Pretty sure it was just based on dystopian fiction and not meant as a skewering of any particular political stance.
>>25489791
SJWs and Starlight Glimmer share a distinctive trait: Tall Poppy Syndrome. They are all about cutting down those who they believe are too "privileged", those who have what they do not, simply for the sake of equality. They also share a more crucial similarity- the need to stamp out any belief which does not precisely match theirs. "Different talents lead to different opinions, which lead to bitterness and misery." Isn't that what was said in Starlight's town? They do not realize that forcing people to think the same way is wrong. They believe that people must be sheltered from disagreement rather than learning to coexist in it. And there is another shared flaw: SJWs only support equality until they are asked to give something up for it. They ignore the contradictions in their ideals because they desire the power those ideals would help them to obtain.
True, around here we do avoid identity, but we do not condemn effort, talent, or wealth. We do not support the silencing of different opinions- on the contrary, arguments are expected. We want people to be better than they are. We know we're flawed, and hope to fix ourselves, not just the world. We fight over our disagreements, but come together in times of sadness. If someone disagrees with something, the response is "have fun being wrong, faggot" not "What backwards thinking! Lock them up and make them accept our way!" No one is forced to be friends. Here, we choose to be.
>>25490150
>SJWs and Starlight Glimmer share a distinctive trait: Tall Poppy Syndrome. They are all about cutting down those who they believe are too "privileged", those who have what they do not, simply for the sake of equality.
Starlight is about stamping out any sort of difference that makes someone a "special snowflake" in any way. It's not about equal rights or equal treatment, it's about making everyone look and act the same. The War onf Justice matches that very closely.
>They also share a more crucial similarity- the need to stamp out any belief which does not precisely match theirs.
And by that you mean "they have beliefs". The War on Justice loves to invade and attack people who express any sort of belief they disapprove of while claiming that the mere existence of said beliefs is equivalent to "they can't tolerate any differences", even when it's a belief like "these people shouldn't be discriminated against" or "attacks are attacks".
>They do not realize that forcing people to think the same way is wrong.
The War on Justice agrees with them on that, and uses the same methods: bombarding people with propaganda and other messages with the intent of making them miserable enough that they don't step out of line. Starlight describes this as "education", but it's obvious to everyone involved that it's meant as a form of harassment to intimidate people away from stepping out of line.
>They believe that people must be sheltered from disagreement rather than learning to coexist in it.
The War on Justice denies this, but they clearly want to be sheltered from "different" people, because they go on crusades whenever they see them.
>They ignore the contradictions in their ideals because they desire the power those ideals would help them to obtain.
Still WoJ. They justify their bullying with words like "free speech" even though they target people who say what they don't like.
So what you mean is "she's evil". Like the War on Justice.
>>25491012
Explain to me what this War on Justice is, apart from just being those who disagree with the social justice movement. Is it an organization? Do people claim membership? How do you determine who is a part of it? What are its ideals?
You have pulled this fancy little title out of thin air, but as of yet it has no meaning- no explanation. So explain.
>>25491036
Well, for one thing, they saw a fictional political faction whose core defining ideology is general intolerance, and decided it was the opposite of that because it lets them hate their imaginary enemy more.
>>25491057
First of all, the social justice movement is not imaginary. Many of its members have stated their membership on more than one occasion. Secondly, this War on Justice is a term you appear to have invented. Third and most damning of all, I can't help but note that you failed to address how even a single one of the similarities I pointed out were not accurate statements on social justice and the things that have been done in its name. You simply ignored the point of what I said and threw back vaguely connected accusations, which you have continued to do now. I would not be surprised if you reply to this post with more of the same.
>>25491070
>First of all, the social justice movement is not imaginary.
The WoJ's version of it is in virtually all cases when they invoke it to excuse their bullying raids, which they treat as "simply disagreeing with people" despite the various methods they use.
>Third and most damning of all, I can't help but note that you failed to address how even a single one of the similarities I pointed out were not accurate statements on social justice and the things that have been done in its name.
I did. They're all accusations that people invoke to bury opinions they hate, by attacking the concept of having an opinion. They don't care whether these things are true of the victim in question or not, they think that their own feelings of hate and intolerance are truer than any fact could be. They're not exclusive to the opinions you, personally, want to stamp out of existence.
>>25491094
You have an artistic way of dodging reason, I'll give you that.
"Who is the War on Justice?"
"The people who think SJWs are like Starlight Glimmer!"
"Why are they wrong?"
"Because they're like Starlight Glimmer!"
"Why are they like Starlight Glimmer?"
"Because they don't like social justice!"
"Why do the reprehensible actions of the social justice movement deserve to be tolerated?"
"Because they're just fighting against the War on Justice!"
"Who is the War on Justice?"
Put that on loop, substitute it for my continued presence.
We can experiment with variations on this exchange all day, but there are better things to be done. I came to this thread to discuss a show I love, not watch you carry out a vendetta against an enemy you refuse to define in favor of a group whose actions you have utterly failed to justify. If you think social justice is so innocent, perhaps you can prove its merit to the other anons on /mlp/. Most people here have plenty of experience with that movement's idea of tolerance. I know it's what drove me out of Tumblr, a site I enjoyed a long time ago, and into this place.
I also know I had a lot more luck getting people to show tolerance for differing ideas and opinions here than I ever did over there.
>>25491129
>You have an artistic way of dodging reason, I'll give you that.
Your whole reason is the direct opposite of the truth.
>We can experiment with variations on this exchange all day, but there are better things to be done.
Yes, like sharing people's personal information so that you can raid them and call them subhuman and worthless while telling yourselves that you're just harmlessly stating your opinion and that your victims are all evil incarnate and deserve it because they MIGHT share an opinion with someone you hated in the past. I never honestly considered the idea that I might change your mind, because it's common for your faction to demonize the entire concept of having an opinion by calling it "oppressive".
>>25491129
Wow, I just noticed you were making a strawman argument instead of just spamming the same distraction questions.
There's not much more to say on that matter. If you're willing to mutilate "their behavior is exactly like Starlight Glimmer's cult in every minute detail" into "we just don't LIKE people", then I don't expect you to listen the second time.
>>25490150
Saying Starlight Glimmer is a SJW is just wrong. Social Justice is about equal treatment and worth. Starlight Glimmer is after everyone being exactly the same. That's a completely differnet thing. Starlight Glimmer is more similar to social conservatives than to SJW. SJWs work for ACCEPTANCE of difference, not elimination. SJWs work for acceptance of sexual minorities, different gender expression and an end to ableism. Because they think people should have worth even if they differ from the average of society. They want to see all different people represented, because difference is a good thing. The equality they want is equality in WORTH, not literal equality.
It's the social conservatives that want people to be the same, and any difference from the average should lead to harassment. THEY are the ones who want everyone to be heterosexual, everyone should strictly follow the gender roles, and think disabled are sub-humans.
>>25491166
>Social Justice is about equal treatment and worth.
>>25487021
>I just really like this show
Finally, someone else on this board! I thought I was alone for a while there with the way everyone talks (not being sarcastic in the slightest).
ITT: Was Starlight Glimmer a SJW or not?
>>25491166
>Saying Starlight Glimmer is a SJW is just wrong. Social Justice is about equal treatment and worth.
Hahahahahaa fuck what.
"Social justice" right now is sheltered nerds and people with too much times on their lives trying to feel good about themselves by being politically correct to an insane degree. Thus they have mental charts of "privileges points" and "opinions scales" and they respect you only if you either claim you're on the lower privilege level AND doesn't have any opinion that could be interpreted as "racist,sexist,homophobic,transphobic,ableist"
They are like starlight glimmer in that they don't want equality but just want to put down people who APPEARS to be superior to others, mostly either to pride themselves or because they hate the "privilege" they have or the contrarian opinion they said.
Heck, check your cosplay privilege!
>>25491166
>Social Justice is about equal treatment and worth.
Yeah, sure it is, buddy.
>>25486262
Testing, Testing, 1 2 3.
Why was it so great? I wish every episode was on that level.
SoL, because they went all out on that one.
>>25492232
Despite all the similarities between them I've brought up, I don't believe Starlight's ideology is a 1:1 accurate representation of SJW behavior, and I'm fairly sure she wasn't made to be an analogy for them. I just think that many of the core flaws that made her so messed up are ones SJWs share. While the two are not identical, there are valid comparisons to be made.
>>25494923
It's kind of funny when you think about it. She made her town into the perfect safe space where no one is better than anyone else. Even discussing non-equality possibilities is frowned upon.
Let's not let the quality thread die just yet.
>>25486262
S1E11: Winter Wrap Up
When Twilight organised the mess Rarity gave her.
