Reminder
Reminder
>>25341821
Fine, as long as you don't take awaythe danger zone
>>25341821
Reminder
reminder
Reminder
>>25341821
But men owe women everything because muh oppression gangnam style
>>25341855
Fuck
>>25341821
What does this even mean? Are meme-spouting internet-women trying to say something I'm too dumb to understand? I'm genuinely confused by most of the things they say.
>>25341871
She has a point. A stupid point but a good one.
>>25341900
This is from a while ago. The my little mouthpiece series. /mlp/ did a few to counter them.
>>25341925
Yeah, I remember that. I'm talking about their lines in general. Why are they so obsessed with the "friendzone" and always talking about ""nice guys"" and "entitlement"? How do unrequited feelings or romance not exist?
>>25341900
Keep in mind that this kind of content is produced by teenagers and then parroted by adults possessing even less emotional maturity
>>25341821
Someone post the edit
>>25341912
Psh, as if. The Huns easily stormed that wall, and then it took some peasant girl to keep them from conquering China.
>>25341821
And......?
>>25341900
It means there is no "friend zone." It means women don't owe you shit. If you take someone out to dinner with the expectation that they'll pay you back with sex, you are regarding them as a whore, engaged in a transaction of goods. Why should they consider you a potential SO in such circumstances?
>>25342058
It also goes the other way around, doesn't it?
>>25342067
>>25342064
Well, that was fast
>>25342058
how does that relate to the friendzone? I'm not seeing the connection between the two.
>>25342074
>>25342067
Well shit, those were coincidentally 20 seconds apart
>>25342058
>It means there is no "friend zone." It means women don't owe you shit. If you take someone out to dinner with the expectation that they'll pay you back with sex, you are regarding them as a whore, engaged in a transaction of goods.
WHERE
THE
FUCKING
HELL
THINK
YOU
ARE
?
That pony mouth pieces campaign was fun. Remember Pinkie Pony?
>>25341821
>>25342058
>talking about dating
>on /mlp/
Ar ye lost m8?
>>25342058
Nobody uses the term "friend zone" relating to someone their dating, though. The "entitlement" shaming is always used on sad lonely beta-males who couldn't even get that far, so that explanation isn't valid. Is that really what they mean, though? I guess I'm not the stupid one, if that's the case.
Anyone have the comic of the girl responding to a "nice guy" that basically said that men have to be clowns that entertain women constantly or they're shit and tried to say that everyone who doesn't act in a certain way is a faux intellectual who deserves no love because they're boring?
>>25342102
>>25342136
>>25342058
>#Literallycan'teven
>#Shitlords
>>25342168
Based Appul.
>>25341821
I consider bring gay often these days. Women a fucking terrible in this day and age.
>>25342172
Are you okay, Anon? Do you need a friendzone?
>>25342193
Men don't owe you shit either, though.
>>25342058
Well shit, what am I supposed to do with all these friendship coins if the market's bottomed out?
Man... talk about risky investments
>>25342193
Go for traps anon, they will understand you.
Or you can be the trap
>>25342193
If you don't plan on making babies, just go 2D.
>>25342211
Men are less likely to project a transactional perception of relationships on their partners
>>25342219
r9k pls
Reminder that the friendzone does "exist" and consists entirely of certain women not having the social skills or simply enough kindness to deal with a boy in a reasonable way. It is made almost entirely of spahghetti. Reminder that this is really all about making mistakes and bad behaviors of women socially acceptable while criminalizing as much as possible the exact same behavior in men. We're to hold the proverbial door of the relationship open so it doesn't slap her on the ass on the way out.
Reminder that women are now routinely so selfish and have such poor social skills they would rather tolerate being harassed for months or years than have a single socially difficult conversation.
So I am guessing there is only dating and fucking in the world anymore.
From what I see, no one cares about love or intimacy.
>>25342281
But Anon, they're scared those boys will stalk and kill them if they turn them down, because men are dangerous psychopathic murderer rapists.
Then put your new brakes on your suv yourself. Bitch.
>>25341855
Reminder that, man or woman, the human being is genetically a moron. If you're angry over trivial things like feeling 'oppressed' or 'criminalized' by the opposite gender, it's probably 95% your fault for meeting the wrong persons and being too lazy to look for new ones.
>>25342291
These are nouveau concepts the bourgeois class has indoctrinated and propagated among the people based on children's bedtime stories to entice people to buy their products and believe certain values to more easily employ self-interest-based policies and perhaps soft eugenics programs.
In the past people married because their parents arranged a marriage and they learned to become intimate with that partner for the sake of their offspring. Marriages were political and communal in nature to bridge families and friendships and divorces were used to break them, which is why they were so taboo historically.
>>25342325
>goes to a garage to get the work done
>gets screwed into a new transmission shes a dumb bitch.
justice
>>25342348
>These are nouveau concepts
Folktales and stories from literally every culture around the world would say otherwise. Starcrossed lovers and all that shit.
Of course, in most stories the lovers end up dying.
I agree though that marriage did at one point have much great economic and political significance than it does now. Still holds somewhat true for the elite classes
>>25342281
>>25342302
This. It's about the infantilizing nature of feminist rhetoric today. And because being a child is easier than being an adult, it's of course striking a chord with Millennials who never want to grow up anyway.
>>25342211
Fags still respect sex as a physical need, and women make shitty friends.
>>25342281
I've noticed that many women do seem to have terrible social and conversational skills, at least when they are around men
gender relations need to improve so we're not all afraid of each other, and all the intergender hate isn't going to fix that
>>25342410
Yeah, the big step that needs to be taken is that both sides need to drop expectations. Men aren't fucking rape machines or trying to treat you like shit because you have a vagina.
>>25342390
You didn't read what was said later on. They employ these stories to inculcate certain ideas and to inveigle people into materialistic pursuits for the maintenance of the current societal structure which benefits them greatly.
>>25342395
>Millennials who never want to grow up anyway.
I don't really understand the angst about "being an adult." Whenever I see "adult" being used as a verb by other Millenials I just shake my head to be honest. Even more irritating are the ones who get a stick up their asses pretending to be "mature adults" because they have a shitty 9 to 5 and an apartment. Paying bills and having a job isn't "adult", it's basic survival. Speaking as a 20-something idiot manchild, I'd say that as a rule 20-somethings are just very stupid. And this stupidity is reflected in the rhetoric we experience every day on the internet.
>>25342410
It's too late, they're doing this based on an incorrect theory in sociology called "critical theory". Here are the key points of "critical race theory", in which feminism has inculcated itself as a minority faction so they're using these same tactics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory#Key_elements
"A critique of liberalism: CRT scholars favor a more aggressive approach to social transformation as opposed to liberalism's more cautious approach, favor a race conscious approach to transformation rather than liberalism's embrace of color blindness, and favor an approach that relies more on political organizing, in contrast to liberalism's reliance on rights-based remedies.[15]"
"Storytelling/counterstorytelling and "naming one's own reality"—using narrative to illuminate and explore experiences of racial oppression.[15]"
Sound familiar?
>>25342468
Man, I see worse. I see the ones complaining about how "school never taught me how to do laundry or cook!" and shit like that. One, there actually are classes in most high schools where you can learn to do that, it's called Home Ec but apparently it was too sexist. And two, you should have learned that before you left home.
>>25342487
Bullshit. I got my ass beat in high school for being white. And those fucks held power over me cause I was one of two white people in the entire school.
It was racism.
>>25342431
While a marxist critique of romanticism is intriguing I think it's far too reductionist to claim that all romantic artistry spanning the centuries was propagated purely for hegemonic, materialistic reasons. the alternative would be literature upholding the value of arranged marriage, which itself could be critiqued as valuing communal wealth and political consolidation over personal autonomy and freedom. literature as an object produced within society has a twofold effect, both maintaining AND informing the status quo (the zeitgeist is a fluid object)
>>25341871
>9gag
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>25342511
That is irritating, especially where it becomes a sort of competition to see who is the most incompetent. As if it's cute and laudable that you managed to fail at making boxed macaroni.
Part of this phenomenon is borne of sardonic, self-effacing, except to many of these people it isn't a joke, it's actually their lives and they are content with being a caricature
>>25342511
*sardonic, self-effacing humor
>>25342125
Normies trying to understand neckbeard language. Same shit with the tumblrites thinking that trap is a derogatory term for a tranny.
>>25342557
It was originally crafted sincerely but it was meant for children. You can look at the themes of Don Quijote to see how society, and Cervantes, found these romantic ideals to be contrarian to essentialist and pragmatic realism.
As time went on we had other literary movements, such as modernism and pomo which deconstructed these fables and looked at the world in a more cynical way.
Of course art and culture shape each other, but the culture utilizes pre-existing mythos to craft new stories, as the newer literary movements have done. These new stories shape thoughts regarding human values like love which are based on tenuous biological imperatives to construct models of living for the ruling classes' benefit.
>>25342487
I think the fundamental gap in logic is the universalizing of members of a given race/gender/economic archetype. i.e. all white males are equivalent with all white males, all black females are equivalent with all black females, etc.
Under the guise of fairness, the population is unfairly segmented and assigns "lack of privilege" to potentially very privileged individuals who happen to be part of a race or class that has been judged as universally underprivileged, while the opposite occurs with races and classes judged as "privileged."
Effective change needs to be centered around each individual as a unique entity, not couched in terms of sweeping social change; such broad strokes simply do not work, and yet the social justice movements are continually distracted by dreams of massive unilateral "movements" that will enact positive change for everyone
>>25342689
>essentialist and pragmatic realism
Realism is inherently contradictory as like love it too is based on tenuous biological imperatives and exists as a model of living that benefits the survival of an individual or a communal enclave
so it's not that I disagree with you, I simply prefer the ideals of love over the ideals of hard realism, both of which will inevitably be exploited by powerful classes
>>25342218
I like this post
Reminder that no-one talks about the friend zone more than feminists.
>>25341966
Because they have to frame everything in terms of how they're victimized.
Even when things benefit them, and people are bending over backwards to try to give them advantages and give them the benefit of being treated like a girlfriend without the reciprocation of treating the other person like a boyfriend, the fundamental rule in how they see their entire life is "how is this victimizing me?".
This victim cult destroys any chance of a healthy human mind growing that will learn to address and overcome any real problems.
>>25341925
I think I only saw a few of them. Is there a set somewhere?
>>25342763To be honest, I don't see the world in such stark terms. Just providing an exaggerated ideological standpoint to instigate discussion.
I do believe love though is something based on neurochemically and psychologically-based factors and then to fill in a sort of existential yearning inherent with being human, we crafted idealistic and romantic narratives. These can then be exploited or utilized by whoever has the clout to do so.
>>25342058
>If you take someone out to dinner with the expectation that they'll pay you back with sex, you are regarding them as a whore, engaged in a transaction of goods.
If you accept an invitation to a meal or a movie, but expect them to pay your way, then you're treating that person like a slave. Why should they consider your company to be that valuable?Imagine all the times you've met up and spent time with your friends, or other people you like. You're expected to pay your own way if you do this. If you regularly expect others to pay for you, then you're not going to be invited to go out for much longer.
>>25342926
You're supposed to buy women things with no entitlement of being treated better in the future or given anything at all. Because they're using the traditional male-dominated expectations that men wait on women, but suddenly decided that the traditional "payout" wasn't what they wanted to do anymore.
They wanted to have their cake and eat it too. The whole system that they're taking advantage of, and promoting as empowering is directly based in the misogynistic view of women as weak and childlike.
They complain about "WOW MEN EXPECT SEX FOR ACTING LIKE A BASIC HUMAN BEING TO WOMEN" when it isn't that. The system used to be that men were in fact entitled to stuff when they gave women stuff, but that's not how it should work anymore. Again, have cake and eat it too.
>>25342104
Something happened, and she's come out of retirement to shit things up again. I don't remember what it was, but her saying that she was going to shut things down and stop starting shit turned out to be a lie, to everyone's dissapointment.
Most people try to let things die at some point, and I was even willing to ignore her, but shit, she's probably actually mentally fucked up in the head.
>>25342134
No, but I have this.
>>25342995
What is she pissy about now?
>>25341855
>>25342905
It's definitely an interesting viewpoint, one that I hadn't considered before.
Considering that love is a chemical phenomenon emergent out of the countless other chemical phenomena that underpin reality, it could be construed that existential yearning and the subsequent crafting of idealistic and romantic narratives are both inherent properties of reality, as are exploitation (and the resistance to and overcoming of that exploitation)...but I suppose this is a rather romantic way of looking at things ;)
>>25343015
People usually bring news to this person, who has a reputation for smacking things down thoroughly, with solid links and citations.
http://tenaflyviper.tumblr.com/tagged/pinkiegroany
For all that tumblr is a cesspit of awfulness in general, there are odd islands of sanity, and based tena is one of them.
From what I can tell with a quick skim-through, April is just being a drama queen and bringing up stuff that happened two years ago and pretending to be a victim about it all now.
Oh, I think I remember now. There was a fanart made of a Steven Universe character, Rose Quartz, and someone drew her being a bit on the thin side, so over 20 hate blogs were formed, and the SU fandom harrassed this fanartist to the point where they attempted suicide was was hospitalized.
April's telling everyone how this is really all about her, like the kid brony who attempted suicide due to bullying and is now brain damaged, and the brony who was killed by being run over two cars.
Joking about edgy shit is one thing, but this person is fucking with actual, real tragedies that have affected real human beings in a permanent way.
>>25342281
There are also women who deliberately string men along so that the men treat them like girlfriends by buying her things, doing their work for them, and just generally going way out of their way to be super kind to them, and they just take, take, take without giving anything back.
I think a big part of the problem is that we have at least 3 different kinds of relationships being described under the friend zone label, simply because we don't have many other terms to use.
>>25343103
What brony got run over?
>>25343035
>pic relatedJust kidding
You might be interested in this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xYO-VMZUGo
Sniffing Slovenian man is always funny.
Regardless, it's nice to envision love as this spiritual, effervescent force that brings two people in a beautiful union. I want to be more sincere and authentic to think like that, but self-doubt prevents that I suppose.
>>25343140
http://www.horse-news net/2015/04/brony-run-over-by-2-cars-in-hit-and-run.html
Sean Ray.
(links to two news articles about the incident are in the horse news link. Putting more links in a post apparently means 4chan thinks it's spam.)
He was hit by the first car by some girl talking on her cellphone. She stopped and got out of her car, but kept talking on her cellphone to finish the conversation before calling 911.
Then a second car ran him over, which then drove away.
>Alabama pony fan Sean Rey , 26, was hospitalized after a double hit-and-run while cycling to work. He has skull fractures, orbital fractures, 12-14 spinal fractures, a shattered pelvis, and numerous other injuries.
>>25342078
>>25342090
>being this new
This is old shit, from the days when KNA and DragonDicks went full batshit legbeard mode. Not that they still aren't.
>>25343247
I live in a pretty uncaring place but I don't think anyone here would just leave someone to die in the street.
Jesus
![celestia [angry crown noises].png](https://i.imgur.com/n98WWAu.png "celestia [angry crown noises].png")
>>25343316
Well, to be fair, the first girl stopped, she just wanted to finish her chat before bothering to call emergency services.
It's barely a step above "leaving someone to die on the street", but...
Y'know what? Fuck it.
Shit like this is why I stopped following the news and keeping up with things. Too many bad things happen, too consistently, for me to keep being energetic and optimistic.
>>25343103
I thought she would be in prison by now with all the shit she pulled. I guess white girl privilege is a thing after all.
>>25343360
Maybe it is normal people who are scum and not the rejects of the internet.
>>25343879
What? No, those internet people are icky and are probably pedophiles too XD
>>25343900
That hits me hard. I remember when the internet was a refuge from reality. Now it is just a bunch of people passing out their info freely and I get shit on for not having a Facebook.
One of those times where looking back at 90 s internet as better actually works.
>>25342179
This one is actually a satire piece.
>>25344013
No shit.
>>25342008
But there's no Mexicans inside.
>>25344116
>>25343900
>XD
Fucking kill yourself
>>25344309
It is someone being satirical you fuck.
>>25341855
>>25342926
How's about this? Don't pay for her.
WOAH REVOLUTIONARY
>inb4 but if you don't pay for her she won't go out with you and think you're cheap
Then she's a dumb whore who expects free shit for being a woman.
>>25344339
I get the feeling that you think you're making some kind of point...
Are you absolutely sure that you understood the post you're replying to?
ITT people who have never been on a date getting angry about what they imagine dates to be like
>>25342264
Not that anon, but I've never once been to that shithole, and that's essentially why people tout traps as superior to women. It's a desired body type with the associated mannerisms coupled to a familiar and relatable mentality.
>tfw no nice gf who likes smelling my armpits
>>25344527
I popped into /r9k/ in the first week of it's existence. The idea of a board that prevents copypasta from being posted, meaning that all posts need to be original, was interesting to me.
The board culture hadn't been developed yet.
It's pretty weird to see people talking about what it's apparently like now.
>>25341821
Reminder: You owe us because we allowed you to vote
>>25344747
That'd be nice if the users of said board weren't such rampant shitposters.
That being said, much like most of the posts on 4chan, they make them in jest. Given my interactions with robots, some of them are just really upset or socially inept people who seek the company of likeminded individuals to bolster themselves, but there are those who come to believe the /r9k/ mentality and apply it outside of the board. It's those people who I disapprove of.
>>25344907
>and apply it outside of the board.
What do you mean by that? Giving up on romance? Being NEET?
>>25342058
if you take a woman out on a date, you are not in the friend zone unless the girl is a gold digger. signed. a dyke
>>25342090
>>25342074
>>25342067
none of this is molelestia saying something like mare on mare rape is hot
All women subconsciously want to be raped. The more vocal they are about "muh wimminz rytez," the more badly they want it.
>>25341871
This is why geography is important people.
>>25342468
>>25342511
>>durr why should we fix a problem that would be easy? figure it out yourselves
the real ironic thing is despite being way more successful than me economically, most of you old fucking retards are so far up your own ass you wont believe basic shit like calories not being the same thing as sugar because you're the responsible adult and I'm the fuck up.
I've watched grown men and women litterally destroy their success from the ground up because of their shitty inability to do basic things like talk to eachother.
the idea that millennial are just a bunch of whiny fucks surrounded by people more competent than them is a joke.
>>25342610
>>25342511
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp8vd4X3IGg
>>25345134
>Implying that I'm not a millennial describing what my peers do
What is the age for millennials ?
>>25342511
Hell, I don't know why more people didn't take Home Ec, or the Cooking course at high school. I did.
It was basically a buffet every week, where we got to eat what we made.
For some reason, even most of the people in the course were sad sacks of shit. I was one of only 3 people who passed the cooking safety exam at the tail end of the course the first time. Some people had to retry it twice to get it.
That shit's an actual license and qualification you can use after high school that isn't a diploma.
>not sticking to mares
You only have yourselves to blame.
>>25345113
Who is this "geography" you speak of?
>>25344116
But there are a lot of Chinese in Mexico
I just like to jack off
>>25342348
Are you a sociopath?
>>25342709
It's rare to find someone on 4chan with whom I entirely agree. This is one of those uncommon instances.
>>25342543
First job I ever had was back in highschool, I worked at target. Everyone in that store was of color, I the only one white. I was the fastest to "zone" the isles. Bitch super would purposly mess the isles again over and tell me to start again. Supposed to get a break over a certain period of hours, never at the end of your shift to prevent thous leaving early. Never got breaks. You can't say anything because they are black.
>>25343128
>My Sister.
>>25346271
Do you mean the comic, the emotional abuse, or a version of "ma nigga"?
>>25346103
>being so mired in your ideology that you cannot discern what's real or not anymore and can only lash out when others challenge it
>>25344339
Sadly that is how the world works, It is the males "responsibility" to "treat" the woman.
Even more pathetic is how this ideology is enforced in public and private school, to which the enforcement is religiously shoved down your throat in private schools.
>>25346327
Someone who is so invested in their own conspiracy theories that they dismiss some of the most fundamental driving forces of humanity as tools of the oppressor is not the kind of person to whom I lend credibility or respect.
You care more about being the smartest person in the room than you do about being a person at all.
>>25346298
All of the Above,
>Cynical
>Sadist
>mah Nigga
>>25346407
You didn't read any of my following posts. :^)
And if you think that people with clout don't exploit our biological imperatives and have been doing so since civilization began, whether to gear one for war or to advertise a product through usage of sexual cues, then you're delusional.
>>25346432
I did read them, actually, though only after making the "sociopath" post. You seem marginally more reasonable there, but your inherent distrust of anyone with wealth or influence still gives off an air of unjust paranoia and your self-assured condescension toward those who find your statements flawed only shows your arrogance.
Every good thing can be abused to control us. But that is not why love and intimacy exist. They are not concepts constructed by "the bourgeois"- a nebulous enemy used as justification for wrongdoing, much like "the patriarchy"- to control the weak masses. They are a part of humanity, as much as friendship and fear. You don't become wiser by abandoning these parts of life. You just become weaker and more alone.
